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Re: The UEB table used in NVDA

 

Hi,
Braille tables in NVDA comes from LibLouis, the braille translation library used by NVDA.
Cheers,
Joseph

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ben J. Bloomgren" <bbloomgren@...
To: nvda@groups.io
Date sent: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 17:01:24 -0700
Subject: Re: [nvda] The UEB table used in NVDA

How does one implement Braille tables into NVDA which aren't currently present? There's a jerry-rigged way to do so with the *.JBT files within Jaws.

Ben
----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Lee
To: nvda@groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 12:50
Subject: Re: [nvda] The UEB table used in NVDA


Hi,

Ah yes.

I do plan to publish a third-party try build that'll include newer UEB tables (as an experimental option), likely tomorrow or sometime this weekend..

Cheers,

Joseph



From: Sharni-Lee Ward [mailto:sharni-lee.ward@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 12:49 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] The UEB table used in NVDA



Hi,

In recent emails, I mentioned I had a Focus 40 Braille display and was wondering about inconsistencies with the Braille output. I've noticed a couple other things that didn't gel with my knowledge of Unified English Braille. Joseph told me NVDA was using an outdated version of the table, but since these things were present both when I first got the pamphlet about UEB in School in 2005 and in an overview I found via Google dated March 2013, I find myself a little confused.

1. Related to previously mentioned formatting inconsistencies. The italic terminator is used after a single word thus emphasised instead of the italic word indicator appearing before it. This is also true of bold and likely other such formatting.
2. "E-a" is not contracted in the middle of words. Neither is "cc". I know "dd" was removed but nothing was mentioned about "cc" and since it's in the middle of the cell, it should have been just fine.
3. And, For, Of, The and With are still presented as being next to each other with no spaces. This, as I recall and as the 2013 overview clearly states, was changed in UEB.

This is coming from someone who only got her Braille Display two weeks ago and who never looked at Braille-related emails before then due to the content not being relevant before aforementioned acquisition of a Braille Display, so if anything like this has been mentioned before, I apologise. Also, if there have been any changes to the UEB code since 2013 that I don't know about, I'd like a link.

I look forward to those working on the Braille side of things correcting these problems, if indeed some of them are problems, and although I hope it will be in the next update, I don't know the work that goes into such coding. I just thought I'd point them out in case nobody had as yet. My earlier point about emdashes and italicised passages has already been brought to Joseph's attention, so I needn't go over that again. :D


Re: The UEB table used in NVDA

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 

Ben,
 They've updated JFW where it's not as hard as that old trick you did in V11 anymore.  I can help you privately with this more, if you'd like.
---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.
 
clgilland07@...
Phone: (704) 256-8010 Extension 401.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 8:01 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] The UEB table used in NVDA

How does one implement Braille tables into NVDA which aren't currently present? There's a jerry-rigged way to do so with the *.JBT files within Jaws.
 
Ben
----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 12:50
Subject: Re: [nvda] The UEB table used in NVDA

Hi,

Ah yes…

I do plan to publish a third-party try build that’ll include newer UEB tables (as an experimental option), likely tomorrow or sometime this weekend.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: Sharni-Lee Ward [mailto:sharni-lee.ward@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 12:49 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] The UEB table used in NVDA

 

Hi,

In recent emails, I mentioned I had a Focus 40 Braille display and was wondering about inconsistencies with the Braille output. I've noticed a couple other things that didn't gel with my knowledge of Unified English Braille. Joseph told me NVDA was using an outdated version of the table, but since these things were present both when I first got the pamphlet about UEB in School in 2005 and in an overview I found via Google dated March 2013, I find myself a little confused.

1. Related to previously mentioned formatting inconsistencies. The italic terminator is used after a single word thus emphasised instead of the italic word indicator appearing before it. This is also true of bold and likely other such formatting.
2. "E-a" is not contracted in the middle of words. Neither is "cc". I know "dd" was removed but nothing was mentioned about "cc" and since it's in the middle of the cell, it should have been just fine.
3. And, For, Of, The and With are still presented as being next to each other with no spaces. This, as I recall and as the 2013 overview clearly states, was changed in UEB.

This is coming from someone who only got her Braille Display two weeks ago and who never looked at Braille-related emails before then due to the content not being relevant before aforementioned acquisition of a Braille Display, so if anything like this has been mentioned before, I apologise. Also, if there have been any changes to the UEB code since 2013 that I don't know about, I'd like a link.

I look forward to those working on the Braille side of things correcting these problems, if indeed some of them are problems, and although I hope it will be in the next update, I don't know the work that goes into such coding. I just thought I'd point them out in case nobody had as yet. My earlier point about emdashes and italicised passages has already been brought to Joseph's attention, so I needn't go over that again. :D


Re: The UEB table used in NVDA

Ben J. Bloomgren
 

How does one implement Braille tables into NVDA which aren't currently present? There's a jerry-rigged way to do so with the *.JBT files within Jaws.
 
Ben

----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 12:50
Subject: Re: [nvda] The UEB table used in NVDA

Hi,

Ah yes…

I do plan to publish a third-party try build that’ll include newer UEB tables (as an experimental option), likely tomorrow or sometime this weekend.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: Sharni-Lee Ward [mailto:sharni-lee.ward@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 12:49 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] The UEB table used in NVDA

 

Hi,

In recent emails, I mentioned I had a Focus 40 Braille display and was wondering about inconsistencies with the Braille output. I've noticed a couple other things that didn't gel with my knowledge of Unified English Braille. Joseph told me NVDA was using an outdated version of the table, but since these things were present both when I first got the pamphlet about UEB in School in 2005 and in an overview I found via Google dated March 2013, I find myself a little confused.

1. Related to previously mentioned formatting inconsistencies. The italic terminator is used after a single word thus emphasised instead of the italic word indicator appearing before it. This is also true of bold and likely other such formatting.
2. "E-a" is not contracted in the middle of words. Neither is "cc". I know "dd" was removed but nothing was mentioned about "cc" and since it's in the middle of the cell, it should have been just fine.
3. And, For, Of, The and With are still presented as being next to each other with no spaces. This, as I recall and as the 2013 overview clearly states, was changed in UEB.

This is coming from someone who only got her Braille Display two weeks ago and who never looked at Braille-related emails before then due to the content not being relevant before aforementioned acquisition of a Braille Display, so if anything like this has been mentioned before, I apologise. Also, if there have been any changes to the UEB code since 2013 that I don't know about, I'd like a link.

I look forward to those working on the Braille side of things correcting these problems, if indeed some of them are problems, and although I hope it will be in the next update, I don't know the work that goes into such coding. I just thought I'd point them out in case nobody had as yet. My earlier point about emdashes and italicised passages has already been brought to Joseph's attention, so I needn't go over that again. :D


Re: Accessibility in SumatraPDF

juan gonzalez <jgonzalezh614@...>
 

thank you for your input. guess i have to stay with Adobe.

On 3/15/2016 3:44 PM, Mallard wrote:
Hello,

No, it doesn't.

In the old days, when the programme was first released, someone asked
about accessibility, but the dev said he didn't know anything about
accessibility, and didn't want to get involved. He said that, since
the software is open source, whoeer wanted to delve into that, could
do so...

Sumatra pdf doesn't have a text viewer, so no text can be read.

Pity, because it also reads epubs, amongst other things.

Hovever, i found that it does a great job saving pdf files to txt.
Of all these pdf reading programme, this is the one that "ruins" the
format least of all.

hth,
Ciao,
Ollie




Il 15/03/2016 20:33, juan gonzalez ha scritto:
does anybody know if this PDF program works with NVDA?





Re: [NVDA] NVDA with MS Excel

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Pranav,

 

I thought this had solved the problem last January but I was mistaken. Even with “allow editing directly in cells” and “hardware graphics acceleration” disabled in the advanced options I am still getting the floating balnked charcters as before.

 

I am running Excel 2010 under windows 10 with NVDA 2016.1

 

Any other suggestions?

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda-bounce@... [mailto:nvda-bounce@...] On Behalf Of Pranav Lal
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 3:08 AM
To: nvda@...
Subject: [NVDA] Re: NVDA with MS Excel

 

Hi Chris,

 

I have experienced your issues with editing formulas in cells on my work laptop which is running windows 7 32bit and office 2013. However, I am on windows 10 on a 64 bit machine running excel 2016 and do not have this problem. I had similar experiences with windows 7 64bit that is, I was able to edit text in cells directly.

 

Try making the following changes.

1.       From the advanced tab, disable allow editing directly in cells.

2.       Disable hardware graphics acceleration  again in the advanced tab.

Pranav

 

From: nvda-bounce@... [mailto:nvda-bounce@...] On Behalf Of Chris Mullins
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 11:21 PM
To: nvda@...
Subject: [NVDA] NVDA with MS Excel

 

Hi

Has anyone encountered problems using MS Excel, in particular when using the VBA editor to write macros (I am using Windows 7), Office 2007.  NVDA occasionally announces ‘blank’ where there are letters (this occurs mainly wen the letter follows an open bracket)  and may also miss out entire lines of code when moving around using the arrow keys.  This behaviour also occurs after pressing F2 to display a formula.  Using the Tools/Options dialog,to configure the VBA editor,   I have set font to Courier New Western and pointsize to 10  but NVDA announces it as Ariel 8 point.    

 

Does anyone know of any work arounds or NVDA parameters I can use to prevent this behaviour from occurring?

 

Cheers

Chris

 

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making group calls with skype

 

I could use some assistance with this one. How do I go about setting up
group calls in Skype with NVDA?


Re: Accessibility in SumatraPDF

Mallard <mallard@...>
 

Hello,

No, it doesn't.

In the old days, when the programme was first released, someone asked about accessibility, but the dev said he didn't know anything about accessibility, and didn't want to get involved. He said that, since the software is open source, whoeer wanted to delve into that, could do so...

Sumatra pdf doesn't have a text viewer, so no text can be read.

Pity, because it also reads epubs, amongst other things.

Hovever, i found that it does a great job saving pdf files to txt.
Of all these pdf reading programme, this is the one that "ruins" the format least of all.

hth,
Ciao,
Ollie

Il 15/03/2016 20:33, juan gonzalez ha scritto:
does anybody know if this PDF program works with NVDA?


Re: The UEB table used in NVDA

 

Hi,

No, not an add-on – a full NVDA build.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: Sharni-Lee Ward [mailto:sharni-lee.ward@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 12:55 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] The UEB table used in NVDA

 

Do you mean an addon? If so, I'll keep a look out on the addons list to see when it comes out.


From: joseph.lee22590@...
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] The UEB table used in NVDA
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 12:50:58 -0700

Hi,

Ah yes…

I do plan to publish a third-party try build that’ll include newer UEB tables (as an experimental option), likely tomorrow or sometime this weekend.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: Sharni-Lee Ward [mailto:sharni-lee.ward@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 12:49 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] The UEB table used in NVDA

 

Hi,

In recent emails, I mentioned I had a Focus 40 Braille display and was wondering about inconsistencies with the Braille output. I've noticed a couple other things that didn't gel with my knowledge of Unified English Braille. Joseph told me NVDA was using an outdated version of the table, but since these things were present both when I first got the pamphlet about UEB in School in 2005 and in an overview I found via Google dated March 2013, I find myself a little confused.

1. Related to previously mentioned formatting inconsistencies. The italic terminator is used after a single word thus emphasised instead of the italic word indicator appearing before it. This is also true of bold and likely other such formatting.
2. "E-a" is not contracted in the middle of words. Neither is "cc". I know "dd" was removed but nothing was mentioned about "cc" and since it's in the middle of the cell, it should have been just fine.
3. And, For, Of, The and With are still presented as being next to each other with no spaces. This, as I recall and as the 2013 overview clearly states, was changed in UEB.

This is coming from someone who only got her Braille Display two weeks ago and who never looked at Braille-related emails before then due to the content not being relevant before aforementioned acquisition of a Braille Display, so if anything like this has been mentioned before, I apologise. Also, if there have been any changes to the UEB code since 2013 that I don't know about, I'd like a link.

I look forward to those working on the Braille side of things correcting these problems, if indeed some of them are problems, and although I hope it will be in the next update, I don't know the work that goes into such coding. I just thought I'd point them out in case nobody had as yet. My earlier point about emdashes and italicised passages has already been brought to Joseph's attention, so I needn't go over that again. :D


Re: The UEB table used in NVDA

Sharni-Lee Ward
 

Do you mean an addon? If so, I'll keep a look out on the addons list to see when it comes out.


From: joseph.lee22590@...
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] The UEB table used in NVDA
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 12:50:58 -0700

Hi,

Ah yes…

I do plan to publish a third-party try build that’ll include newer UEB tables (as an experimental option), likely tomorrow or sometime this weekend.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: Sharni-Lee Ward [mailto:sharni-lee.ward@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 12:49 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] The UEB table used in NVDA

 

Hi,

In recent emails, I mentioned I had a Focus 40 Braille display and was wondering about inconsistencies with the Braille output. I've noticed a couple other things that didn't gel with my knowledge of Unified English Braille. Joseph told me NVDA was using an outdated version of the table, but since these things were present both when I first got the pamphlet about UEB in School in 2005 and in an overview I found via Google dated March 2013, I find myself a little confused.

1. Related to previously mentioned formatting inconsistencies. The italic terminator is used after a single word thus emphasised instead of the italic word indicator appearing before it. This is also true of bold and likely other such formatting.
2. "E-a" is not contracted in the middle of words. Neither is "cc". I know "dd" was removed but nothing was mentioned about "cc" and since it's in the middle of the cell, it should have been just fine.
3. And, For, Of, The and With are still presented as being next to each other with no spaces. This, as I recall and as the 2013 overview clearly states, was changed in UEB.

This is coming from someone who only got her Braille Display two weeks ago and who never looked at Braille-related emails before then due to the content not being relevant before aforementioned acquisition of a Braille Display, so if anything like this has been mentioned before, I apologise. Also, if there have been any changes to the UEB code since 2013 that I don't know about, I'd like a link.

I look forward to those working on the Braille side of things correcting these problems, if indeed some of them are problems, and although I hope it will be in the next update, I don't know the work that goes into such coding. I just thought I'd point them out in case nobody had as yet. My earlier point about emdashes and italicised passages has already been brought to Joseph's attention, so I needn't go over that again. :D


Re: The UEB table used in NVDA

 

Hi,

Ah yes…

I do plan to publish a third-party try build that’ll include newer UEB tables (as an experimental option), likely tomorrow or sometime this weekend.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: Sharni-Lee Ward [mailto:sharni-lee.ward@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 12:49 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] The UEB table used in NVDA

 

Hi,

In recent emails, I mentioned I had a Focus 40 Braille display and was wondering about inconsistencies with the Braille output. I've noticed a couple other things that didn't gel with my knowledge of Unified English Braille. Joseph told me NVDA was using an outdated version of the table, but since these things were present both when I first got the pamphlet about UEB in School in 2005 and in an overview I found via Google dated March 2013, I find myself a little confused.

1. Related to previously mentioned formatting inconsistencies. The italic terminator is used after a single word thus emphasised instead of the italic word indicator appearing before it. This is also true of bold and likely other such formatting.
2. "E-a" is not contracted in the middle of words. Neither is "cc". I know "dd" was removed but nothing was mentioned about "cc" and since it's in the middle of the cell, it should have been just fine.
3. And, For, Of, The and With are still presented as being next to each other with no spaces. This, as I recall and as the 2013 overview clearly states, was changed in UEB.

This is coming from someone who only got her Braille Display two weeks ago and who never looked at Braille-related emails before then due to the content not being relevant before aforementioned acquisition of a Braille Display, so if anything like this has been mentioned before, I apologise. Also, if there have been any changes to the UEB code since 2013 that I don't know about, I'd like a link.

I look forward to those working on the Braille side of things correcting these problems, if indeed some of them are problems, and although I hope it will be in the next update, I don't know the work that goes into such coding. I just thought I'd point them out in case nobody had as yet. My earlier point about emdashes and italicised passages has already been brought to Joseph's attention, so I needn't go over that again. :D


The UEB table used in NVDA

Sharni-Lee Ward
 

Hi,

In recent emails, I mentioned I had a Focus 40 Braille display and was wondering about inconsistencies with the Braille output. I've noticed a couple other things that didn't gel with my knowledge of Unified English Braille. Joseph told me NVDA was using an outdated version of the table, but since these things were present both when I first got the pamphlet about UEB in School in 2005 and in an overview I found via Google dated March 2013, I find myself a little confused.

1. Related to previously mentioned formatting inconsistencies. The italic terminator is used after a single word thus emphasised instead of the italic word indicator appearing before it. This is also true of bold and likely other such formatting.
2. "E-a" is not contracted in the middle of words. Neither is "cc". I know "dd" was removed but nothing was mentioned about "cc" and since it's in the middle of the cell, it should have been just fine.
3. And, For, Of, The and With are still presented as being next to each other with no spaces. This, as I recall and as the 2013 overview clearly states, was changed in UEB.

This is coming from someone who only got her Braille Display two weeks ago and who never looked at Braille-related emails before then due to the content not being relevant before aforementioned acquisition of a Braille Display, so if anything like this has been mentioned before, I apologise. Also, if there have been any changes to the UEB code since 2013 that I don't know about, I'd like a link.

I look forward to those working on the Braille side of things correcting these problems, if indeed some of them are problems, and although I hope it will be in the next update, I don't know the work that goes into such coding. I just thought I'd point them out in case nobody had as yet. My earlier point about emdashes and italicised passages has already been brought to Joseph's attention, so I needn't go over that again. :D


Accessibility in SumatraPDF

juan gonzalez <jgonzalezh614@...>
 

does anybody know if this PDF program works with NVDA?


Re: speech hub can not install.

Gene NZ <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi

When I put a copy of speechhub onto my windows 10 machine last week, when you go to install speechhub if it can not see Java on your machine it will downloadi it and install it to your machine. Usually most machines already have it When it is installed then you need to install the add on for NVDA to see it, then do the usual to see the synths and voices in NVDA.

What operating system are you using? Have you got all of your service packs for windows on the machine. I will contact Isaac or see if I have his details and send them onto him, so he can help you if you want me to.
So hopefully it can be sorted.

Gene nz

On 16-Mar-16 2:30 AM, Life My Way via Groups.io wrote:
I am having trouble installing speech hub it gets so far when i try and install the addon it won't let me go any farther something about java what is happening i have tried many times to install this but it won't install please help.



Re: speech hub and ducking.

Gene NZ <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi Ken

I fogot to say the feature is from Windows 8 and up and is not in Windows 7 and below.

Gene nz


On 16-Mar-16 6:49 AM, ken lawrence via Groups.io wrote:
yeah that’s wht I’m running.  uninstalled NVDA and went from scratch.  the ducking option isn’t even there.  not using the portable version.  not sure if the speech configuration is lost or not have rebooted a couple times.  setttings are exactgly what I had before too. 
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] speech hub and ducking.
 
Hi Ken

The audio ducking feature is only in the installer version of NVDA and not in the portable version of NVDA. It was put into the NVDA 2016.1 release.

I just tried it with the audio ducking feature and it worked with speechhub.

Is when you are having problems with speechhub is it when you first boot up the computer? I have 6 machines here all with speechhub on them, the 5 of them which are duel core machines load with speechhub every time with the correct voices, but they are not the intensive ones. I have not tried it with the mary voices for a while.

Now and again on the quad core machine when it starts up, it will default back to the E speak voice. I think this is a timing issue
With the installer version of NVDA I use the alt + ctrl + the letter N to restart NVDA then it comes up with the voice that was chosen. Isaac is the developer of speechhub and i think he is on the list still.
I can pass on the details to him.

Gene nz
.

On 16-Mar-16 2:00 AM, ken lawrence via Groups.io wrote:
Hi listers ken here was fiddling around on synthesizers dialog on NVDA and and didn’t find the ducking option in the dialog.  also now another issue is coming up.  I also changed synthsizers to a speech hub cross platform voice and I noticed that the NVDA isn’t saving configuration it’s going back to the Espeak default.  have switched  back to sapi 5 and now I notice that it’s still reverting back to default.  screen reader keeps shutting down too when I do some things.  why isn’t it holding configuration or ducking even though my computer shows save configuration is checked and am using current version it shows that on programs and features installed on 2/22/2016  should  I uninstall and reinstall a fresh copy from scratch?  



Re: Sort of resetting NVDA screen buffer/app module in normal applications

Jacob Kruger
 

Thanks, Chris, will give it a try next time issue occurs.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet..."

On 2016-03-15 7:43 PM, Chris Mullins wrote:
Hi
According to the help User Guide, there is this facility:
10.5. Reload plugins
This item, once activated, reloads app modules and global plugins without restarting NVDA, which can be useful for developers.

Although not mentioned here, NVDA+Ctrl+f3 appears to run this function.

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: Jacob Kruger [mailto:jacob@...]
Sent: 15 March 2016 16:47
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Sort of resetting NVDA screen buffer/app module in normal applications

Sorry for mentioning this, but, in a manner similar to how you can reset jaws scripts while using a piece of software, is there some way to sort of reload the NVDA app module for a specific piece of software while using it, or to, at the very least, do something similar to NVDA-key +
F5 in a web browser, to reload the on-screen buffer, etc.?

Asking since, for example, at times, while writing a message in thunderbird, it seems like NVDA loses track of the contents of the message thus far, and while occasionally, alt+tabbing away, pausing momentarily, and then alt+tabbing back to the message will help, generally, the only real workaround seems to be to unload NVDA, and then reload it.

TIA

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet..."







Re: speech hub and ducking.

 

Hi,

Which operating system is this (perhaps windows 7)?

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: ken lawrence via Groups.io [mailto:kenlawrence124@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 10:50 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] speech hub and ducking.

 

yeah that’s wht I’m running.  uninstalled NVDA and went from scratch.  the ducking option isn’t even there.  not using the portable version.  not sure if the speech configuration is lost or not have rebooted a couple times.  setttings are exactgly what I had before too. 

Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 1:36 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] speech hub and ducking.

 

Hi Ken

The audio ducking feature is only in the installer version of NVDA and not in the portable version of NVDA. It was put into the NVDA 2016.1 release.

I just tried it with the audio ducking feature and it worked with speechhub.

Is when you are having problems with speechhub is it when you first boot up the computer? I have 6 machines here all with speechhub on them, the 5 of them which are duel core machines load with speechhub every time with the correct voices, but they are not the intensive ones. I have not tried it with the mary voices for a while.

Now and again on the quad core machine when it starts up, it will default back to the E speak voice. I think this is a timing issue
With the installer version of NVDA I use the alt + ctrl + the letter N to restart NVDA then it comes up with the voice that was chosen. Isaac is the developer of speechhub and i think he is on the list still.
I can pass on the details to him.

Gene nz
.

On 16-Mar-16 2:00 AM, ken lawrence via Groups.io wrote:

Hi listers ken here was fiddling around on synthesizers dialog on NVDA and and didn’t find the ducking option in the dialog.  also now another issue is coming up.  I also changed synthsizers to a speech hub cross platform voice and I noticed that the NVDA isn’t saving configuration it’s going back to the Espeak default.  have switched  back to sapi 5 and now I notice that it’s still reverting back to default.  screen reader keeps shutting down too when I do some things.  why isn’t it holding configuration or ducking even though my computer shows save configuration is checked and am using current version it shows that on programs and features installed on 2/22/2016  should  I uninstall and reinstall a fresh copy from scratch?  

 


Re: speech hub and ducking.

ken lawrence
 

yeah that’s wht I’m running.  uninstalled NVDA and went from scratch.  the ducking option isn’t even there.  not using the portable version.  not sure if the speech configuration is lost or not have rebooted a couple times.  setttings are exactgly what I had before too. 

Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] speech hub and ducking.
 
Hi Ken

The audio ducking feature is only in the installer version of NVDA and not in the portable version of NVDA. It was put into the NVDA 2016.1 release.

I just tried it with the audio ducking feature and it worked with speechhub.

Is when you are having problems with speechhub is it when you first boot up the computer? I have 6 machines here all with speechhub on them, the 5 of them which are duel core machines load with speechhub every time with the correct voices, but they are not the intensive ones. I have not tried it with the mary voices for a while.

Now and again on the quad core machine when it starts up, it will default back to the E speak voice. I think this is a timing issue
With the installer version of NVDA I use the alt + ctrl + the letter N to restart NVDA then it comes up with the voice that was chosen. Isaac is the developer of speechhub and i think he is on the list still.
I can pass on the details to him.

Gene nz
.

On 16-Mar-16 2:00 AM, ken lawrence via Groups.io wrote:
Hi listers ken here was fiddling around on synthesizers dialog on NVDA and and didn’t find the ducking option in the dialog.  also now another issue is coming up.  I also changed synthsizers to a speech hub cross platform voice and I noticed that the NVDA isn’t saving configuration it’s going back to the Espeak default.  have switched  back to sapi 5 and now I notice that it’s still reverting back to default.  screen reader keeps shutting down too when I do some things.  why isn’t it holding configuration or ducking even though my computer shows save configuration is checked and am using current version it shows that on programs and features installed on 2/22/2016  should  I uninstall and reinstall a fresh copy from scratch?  


Re: Sort of resetting NVDA screen buffer/app module in normal applications

Chris Mullins
 

Hi
According to the help User Guide, there is this facility:
10.5. Reload plugins
This item, once activated, reloads app modules and global plugins without restarting NVDA, which can be useful for developers.

Although not mentioned here, NVDA+Ctrl+f3 appears to run this function.

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: Jacob Kruger [mailto:jacob@...]
Sent: 15 March 2016 16:47
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Sort of resetting NVDA screen buffer/app module in normal applications

Sorry for mentioning this, but, in a manner similar to how you can reset jaws scripts while using a piece of software, is there some way to sort of reload the NVDA app module for a specific piece of software while using it, or to, at the very least, do something similar to NVDA-key +
F5 in a web browser, to reload the on-screen buffer, etc.?

Asking since, for example, at times, while writing a message in thunderbird, it seems like NVDA loses track of the contents of the message thus far, and while occasionally, alt+tabbing away, pausing momentarily, and then alt+tabbing back to the message will help, generally, the only real workaround seems to be to unload NVDA, and then reload it.

TIA

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet..."


Re: Sort of resetting NVDA screen buffer/app module in normal applications

Jacob Kruger
 

Think NVDA + F5 will only work when focused on something like an HTmL, or word/formatted document, and, for example, now while writing this reply, it doesn't seem to be associated with any activity, since am in editing mode.

And, maye issue has to do with other background applications running - not necessarily actual windows floating behind thunderbird, but, there are quite a few background processes running, with icons in system tray, etc.

Should maybe also have mentioned that this on windows 10 64 bit, but anyway.

And, in terms of this occuring in other apps, yes, it does at times, also generally relating to when busy editing text, etc., but, not necessarily - the primary place I notice it is just when either replying to a message, or when composing something like a longish message.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet..."

On 2016-03-15 7:15 PM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
Hmm, I've found nvda and f6 is it, in web pages quite good, but not
tried it in the Thunderbird client. My guess is that this is a
thunderbird thing.
Does this happen more often if other programs are running but not in the
focussed window? I've seen that sort of behaviour before both in nvda
and other screenreaders like Dolphin ones.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Jacob Kruger" <jacob@...>
To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 4:46 PM
Subject: [nvda] Sort of resetting NVDA screen buffer/app module in
normal applications


Sorry for mentioning this, but, in a manner similar to how you can
reset jaws scripts while using a piece of software, is there some way
to sort of reload the NVDA app module for a specific piece of software
while using it, or to, at the very least, do something similar to
NVDA-key + F5 in a web browser, to reload the on-screen buffer, etc.?

Asking since, for example, at times, while writing a message in
thunderbird, it seems like NVDA loses track of the contents of the
message thus far, and while occasionally, alt+tabbing away, pausing
momentarily, and then alt+tabbing back to the message will help,
generally, the only real workaround seems to be to unload NVDA, and
then reload it.

TIA

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet..."






Re: speech hub and ducking.

Gene NZ <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi Ken

The audio ducking feature is only in the installer version of NVDA and not in the portable version of NVDA. It was put into the NVDA 2016.1 release.

I just tried it with the audio ducking feature and it worked with speechhub.

Is when you are having problems with speechhub is it when you first boot up the computer? I have 6 machines here all with speechhub on them, the 5 of them which are duel core machines load with speechhub every time with the correct voices, but they are not the intensive ones. I have not tried it with the mary voices for a while.

Now and again on the quad core machine when it starts up, it will default back to the E speak voice. I think this is a timing issue
With the installer version of NVDA I use the alt + ctrl + the letter N to restart NVDA then it comes up with the voice that was chosen. Isaac is the developer of speechhub and i think he is on the list still.
I can pass on the details to him.

Gene nz
.

On 16-Mar-16 2:00 AM, ken lawrence via Groups.io wrote:
Hi listers ken here was fiddling around on synthesizers dialog on NVDA and and didn’t find the ducking option in the dialog.  also now another issue is coming up.  I also changed synthsizers to a speech hub cross platform voice and I noticed that the NVDA isn’t saving configuration it’s going back to the Espeak default.  have switched  back to sapi 5 and now I notice that it’s still reverting back to default.  screen reader keeps shutting down too when I do some things.  why isn’t it holding configuration or ducking even though my computer shows save configuration is checked and am using current version it shows that on programs and features installed on 2/22/2016  should  I uninstall and reinstall a fresh copy from scratch?