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NVDA and Bandcamp.

John Isige
 

Hi all.


I've asked this question before, but it was ages ago, so I'm asking it again for two reasons. Is there a way to do it, i.e. did something change, and if not, where do I complain about it to get it fixed?


Is there a way to play things on Bandcamp using NVDA? I use Firefox, but I've also tried it on Chrome and Edge, so switching browsers isn't going to help. I literally just checked with Edge. Here's our sample page.


https://hamasynth.bandcamp.com/


If I hit 'b' to go to the first play/pause button, I've tried:


1. Routing with numpad-zero numpad-slash, and then double clicking with numpad slash. This used to work, but hasn't for a while.


2. Routing as above, and hitting numpad-zero numpad-enter.


3. Getting on to the button via normal navigation, e.g. tab, arrows, and hitting enter.


4. Same, but hitting space.


5. Same, hitting shift-numpad-enter, this just opens a new window.


Somebody said a while ago that there's a graphic next to the buttons. For a while, sometimes I could find it, it would read as a blank line, and if I hit enter on that, it would play. But it didn't show up consistently, even within the same page, and I haven't seen that happen in, probably over a year.


So basically, with NVDA and any browser I know of, I can't make things play on Bandcamp, and I'd really like to, because it's pretty hard to decide if you're going to buy music if you can't hear it. If there's no solution for this, do I post on NVDA's Github page? Do I try to get in touch with Bandcamp? Both? I'd really like this to get solved, one way or another. If that means I'm being dumb and missing something obvious, so much the better. But I'm pretty sure it's just broken, because I'm fairly sure others have had problems with it too.


locked Re: Editing paragraphs in MS Word 2010

 

Miloš

If you are not already a member of the Chat Subgroup, I am going to ask that you join and launch this topic again there (or send a private message to the group owner address after you've joined, and I will be happy to re-start the topic there for you).

This is for 2 reasons:

1.  Microsoft Office 2010 is out of support, and out of support software is not permitted to be discussed on this group other than in regard to transitioning to a currently supported version.  

End of support for Office 2010 - Microsoft Office

2. This really isn't an NVDA question, but a question about MS-Word.  You happen to be using NVDA with MS-Word, but what you're asking about is MS-Word.

You might also want to consider joining the Microsoft Office Accessibility Discussion Group.  I'll give the e-mail addresses for that right after the Chat Subgroup Addresses:

Microsoft Office Accessibility Discussion Group:

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This topic is now locked.

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Possibly a related problem: Re: [nvda] NVDA screen reader problem with fire fox version 90

John J. Boyer
 

Since only some users are having this problem it might have something to do with the setings in Windows 10.
I have found that some links that are supposed to redirect automatically do not do so. This has been happening for the last few weeks.
My system just updated to the latest version of Windows 10. I haven't checked to see if it is still happening.

Johnn

On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 07:49:56PM +1000, Quentin Christensen wrote:
It's a known issue with Firefox - but oddly only for some users.

A workaround from Mozilla is to try the following:

1. Start Firefox.
2. Enter the address about:config in the address bar.
3. Accept the warning.
4. In the search box, enter the word skeleton
5. In the table below, browser.startup.preXulSkeletonUI should appear and
it will have a value of true. Press the Toggle button to set it to false.
6. Restart Firefox.

On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 7:45 PM John J. Boyer <john.boyer@abilitiessoft.org>
wrote:

My Firefox was updated. Now it is less accesible than before. The screen
looks normal to a sighted person, but NVDA keeps saying "unknown" and
doesn't respond to keyhstrokes.

John

On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 11:17:45AM +0200, anthony borg wrote:
Hi



I installed the latest fire fox version 90 and it isn't working properly,
can some body tell me if it is compatable with NVDA please?

Thanks in advance



Anthony





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locked Editing paragraphs in MS Word 2010

Milos Przic
 

Hello all,
I do have the Microsoft Word with NVDA instructions book, I baught it a few years ago. I have read the parts of the book concerning paragraphs in Ms Word, but still want to ask more experienced people here as to how to do what I want, because it is a very important requirement for the publication I prepare an article for.
The paragraph requirement states this: "First Line: 0,5 (1,27". If I do it for the entire document, it will make all the paragraphs the same. But for the keywords, for example, the requirements are different: First line auto, Col 1. What is it? And, if I want to make a paragraph look or be indented differently from the other paragraphs, should I select all the text in it and then set up the changes, or is it enough to be in that paragraph without selecting the text in it? I ask because I have the impression that, when I go to the context menu and then to the paragraph option when no text is selected, that the set options apply to the whole document.
Thanks to everyone in advance, and best regards!
          Miloš


Re: Problem with Weather Plus Addon

 

On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 09:36 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
I never saw anything on the weather add on specifically.  That's why I posted my message.  I do agree that people should be specific as to what they are talking about.  this problem caused me to be confused and post an unnecessary message in the first place.
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And this is a perfect example of how one problem, non-specific titles, can directly contribute to another, repeat topics within a very short time span.

Believe me when I say that I can understand, entirely, how a generic title can lead to the use of the delete key such that it's never even reviewed in the first place.  That's precisely the reason the group rules and monthly reminder state:  "The topic is the first (and, sometimes, only) thing a member sees and that may be how they decide if they’re going to look further.   Generic titles such as, “Weird Problem,” or “Help Me!,” are not helpful because they give no idea about what."

But the group continues to have frequent appearances of these three things in particular, that all need to stop:
1. Generic topic titles.   Everyone needs to be giving their topics a title that clearly tells what the issue is - front and center.
2. Repeats of the same topic on the same day or within 24-48 hours of another (and in this case one that had a non-generic title).  I understand that it's very easy to nuke a topic with a generic title and not read it, leading to this very issue.  But most often that's not what's occurring.
3. Repeats of the same answer response, hours to days after the first person who gave that response sent it.  Sometimes, and usually when a topic is new, several people will be typing out the same answer at almost the same time.  This happens, and it's not a problem that can be fixed, nor needs to be fixed, as it's not common.  But when the exact same answer is offered, again and again, hours to days after its first appearance, that clearly indicates that the time was not taken to read through the entirety of an ongoing topic before responding.  The group rules state the following for a very good reason:
Use threaded or conversation view in your e-mail client program or webmail and reading through the entirety of a topic before replying.  It gets you completely up to speed and avoids a lot of repetition.  If you choose not to use threaded/conversation view, please take the time to read through all messages from the group that are in your inbox prior to adding any reply to the group.

It is not unreasonable to expect that every member of this group can and will try their very best to adhere to the rules.  It's also not unreasonable that, when any one of them might happen to "step in it," that this particular lapse be used as a cautionary example by group administration.  It happens all the time and I'm not going to apologize for following what has been standard practice virtually everywhere I've ever been a part of list, group, or forum administration.  None of this is personal; it's how groups are very commonly run.  Whoever it may have been who had a lapse, whether accidental or intentional, should simply resolve not to repeat it.  Life goes on.
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Re: Problem with Weather Plus Addon

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Brian,

I never saw anything on the weather add on specifically.  That's why I posted my message.  I do agree that people should be specific as to what they are talking about.  this problem caused me to be confused and post an unnecessary message in the first place.


On 6/10/2021 6:11 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 05:49 PM, inamuddinInam Uddin wrote:

Whenever I try to search and add my city, it simply says city not found!

Please let me know what can I do?

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One thing you need to start doing, and all members need to start doing, is to read through what has already been posted on a topic before adding to it.

Ten and a half hours ago, Rui Fontes already answered the precise question you've just asked, again, and in this very topic.  See message #85016.

I am at wit's end at this basic courtesy, and that's what it is, not routinely being followed.
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Re: NVDA screen reader problem with fire fox version 90

Ian Blackburn
 

Yes works courses a couple of problems with closing multiple open windows in Firefox


On 11 Jun 2021, at 8:20 pm, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:


There is a problem with the newest Firefox that affects some users.  Here is a message from another list about how to work around the problem.  Also, according to a reliable person on the other list, Firefox developers are learning about what causes the problem in order to correct it.
 
It's a known issue with Firefox - but oddly only for some users.
 
A workaround from Mozilla is to try the following:
 
1. Start Firefox.
2. Enter the address about:config in the address bar.
3. Accept the warning.
4. In the search box, enter the word skeleton
5. In the table below, browser.startup.preXulSkeletonUI should appear and
it will have a value of true. Press the Toggle button to set it to false.
6. Restart Firefox.
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 4:17 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA screen reader problem with fire fox version 90
 

Hi

 

I installed the latest fire fox version 90 and it isn’t working properly, can some body tell me if it is compatable with NVDA please?

Thanks in advance

 

Anthony


"pane" bug with NVDA and excel

falkogiepmans@...
 

Dear all,

I have got someone who has problems with excel. If he presses f2 when in a cell it jumps to the formula bar correctly but only says "pane" and nothing else. NVDA does not report typed words in it either.
We think this is not a bug in NVDA, since narrator also does not report anything.


We are running NVDA 2020.4 without add-ons.
The formula bar itself is considered an NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible object.
We have reset the configurations to default and ran the fix COM registration tool.
The version is Office 365 MSO 16.01252721378,

Does anyone has any idea what could be wrong or some tips to check?

Kind regards,
Falko
 
 


Re: NVDA screen reader problem with fire fox version 90

Gene
 

There is a problem with the newest Firefox that affects some users.  Here is a message from another list about how to work around the problem.  Also, according to a reliable person on the other list, Firefox developers are learning about what causes the problem in order to correct it.
 
It's a known issue with Firefox - but oddly only for some users.
 
A workaround from Mozilla is to try the following:
 
1. Start Firefox.
2. Enter the address about:config in the address bar.
3. Accept the warning.
4. In the search box, enter the word skeleton
5. In the table below, browser.startup.preXulSkeletonUI should appear and
it will have a value of true. Press the Toggle button to set it to false.
6. Restart Firefox.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 4:17 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA screen reader problem with fire fox version 90
 

Hi

 

I installed the latest fire fox version 90 and it isn’t working properly, can some body tell me if it is compatable with NVDA please?

Thanks in advance

 

Anthony


Re: NVDA screen reader problem with fire fox version 90

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Yes, it is.

 

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of anthony borg
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2021 10:18 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA screen reader problem with fire fox version 90

 

Hi

 

I installed the latest fire fox version 90 and it isn’t working properly, can some body tell me if it is compatable with NVDA please?

Thanks in advance

 

Anthony




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NVDA enter button

marinos.poulimas
 

Good evening everyone     I write with Google translate any errors I apologize I face the following problem if anyone knows please help I have four to five days if I will shut down or if I restart the computer the enter button is not accepted by the computer when I want to open a folder or an application does not accept it even when I go to the system updates to open and see the notifications it only works in programs like Chrome I thought my keyboard has a problem I have five years and the computer only three months I bought a new one keyboard and does the same thing Sometimes it opens a folder but I hear it loading the nvda Is there a setting By mistake I should not have it turned on or by mistake I should not have it turned off the problem comes back sometimes not always after three and four times restart the computer Is it a problem in nvda maybe I have bothered Cat Wrong some adjustment something has to be done with the focus


Re: NVDA screen reader problem with fire fox version 90

Patrick Le Baudour
 

Hi,

for information, it is not a nvda problem at all, it only affects 64-bits firefox releases with some specific registry settings, that can alas be modified by unrelated programs like acrobat reader installer. People working on this problem on the firefox side have made great progress in understanding what happens, and seem to plan a release correcting it whenever possible.

-- Patrick

Le 11/06/2021 à 11:49, Quentin Christensen a écrit :
It's a known issue with Firefox - but oddly only for some users.
A workaround from Mozilla is to try the following:
1. Start Firefox.
2. Enter the address about:config in the address bar.
3. Accept the warning.
4. In the search box, enter the word skeleton
5. In the table below, browser.startup.preXulSkeletonUI should appear and it will have a value of true. Press the Toggle button to set it to false.
6. Restart Firefox.


Re: NVDA screen reader problem with fire fox version 90

Rui Fontes
 

Strange!

In my Firefox 89 the value is "True" and it works normally...


Maybe dependent of Windows in use?

My Windows is Version 21H1 (OS Compilation 19043.1052)


Rui Fontes



Às 10:49 de 11/06/2021, Quentin Christensen escreveu:

It's a known issue with Firefox - but oddly only for some users.

A workaround from Mozilla is to try the following:

1. Start Firefox.
2. Enter the address about:config in the address bar.
3. Accept the warning.
4. In the search box, enter the word skeleton
5. In the table below, browser.startup.preXulSkeletonUI should appear and it will have a value of true. Press the Toggle button to set it to false.
6. Restart Firefox.

On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 7:45 PM John J. Boyer <john.boyer@...> wrote:
My Firefox was updated. Now it is less accesible than before. The screen looks normal to a sighted person, but NVDA keeps saying "unknown" and doesn't respond to keyhstrokes.

John

On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 11:17:45AM +0200, anthony borg wrote:
> Hi
>

>
> I installed the latest fire fox version 90 and it isn't working properly,
> can some body tell me if it is compatable with NVDA please?
>
> Thanks in advance
>

>
> Anthony
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: NVDA screen reader problem with fire fox version 90

Quentin Christensen
 

It's a known issue with Firefox - but oddly only for some users.

A workaround from Mozilla is to try the following:

1. Start Firefox.
2. Enter the address about:config in the address bar.
3. Accept the warning.
4. In the search box, enter the word skeleton
5. In the table below, browser.startup.preXulSkeletonUI should appear and it will have a value of true. Press the Toggle button to set it to false.
6. Restart Firefox.


On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 7:45 PM John J. Boyer <john.boyer@...> wrote:
My Firefox was updated. Now it is less accesible than before. The screen looks normal to a sighted person, but NVDA keeps saying "unknown" and doesn't respond to keyhstrokes.

John

On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 11:17:45AM +0200, anthony borg wrote:
> Hi
>

>
> I installed the latest fire fox version 90 and it isn't working properly,
> can some body tell me if it is compatable with NVDA please?
>
> Thanks in advance
>

>
> Anthony
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Email: john.boyer@...
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Location: Madison, Wisconsin, USA
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Re: NVDA not reading lines in a multiple column document

Quentin Christensen
 

Is it one you can email me offlist Pranav?

I just created a blank document, set it to two columns, dumped a bunch of text in it, and NVDA can read and navigate fine.  Note that if you just up arrow or down arrow, NVDA will stay in the same column - actually that's not NVDA, that's how navigation in Word works - if you control+up or down arrow to move by paragraph, or read using say all it moves as expected.

I tried using NVDA 2020.4 (portable) and NVDA 2021.1 beta 2 (installed) on:

Windows 10 (64-bit) Version: 2009, Build: 19042
 
Office 365 (64-bit) Version: 16.0.14026.20228

Quentin. 


On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 6:45 PM Pranav Lal <pranav.lal@...> wrote:
Hi all,

I had to work with a word document that was split into multiple columns. I
am not talking about tables here but newspaper columns.

NVDA went silent for some lines. Jaws worked just fine which is how I know
that the document had multiple columns.

This was on my work computer running windows 10 1809 and Microsoft word 365.

I have tested on my home machine that has windows 10 Version 21H1 (OS Build
19043.1052) running word 365
Specifically:
MicrosoftR Word for Microsoft 365 MSO (16.0.14204.20000) 64-bit 

The text is being read but the columns are not being detected.

Is anyone able to duplicate this? I am using NVDA version 2020.4.
Pranav








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Re: NVDA screen reader problem with fire fox version 90

John J. Boyer
 

My Firefox was updated. Now it is less accesible than before. The screen looks normal to a sighted person, but NVDA keeps saying "unknown" and doesn't respond to keyhstrokes.

John

On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 11:17:45AM +0200, anthony borg wrote:
Hi



I installed the latest fire fox version 90 and it isn't working properly,
can some body tell me if it is compatable with NVDA please?

Thanks in advance



Anthony





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NVDA screen reader problem with fire fox version 90

anthony borg
 

Hi

 

I installed the latest fire fox version 90 and it isn’t working properly, can some body tell me if it is compatable with NVDA please?

Thanks in advance

 

Anthony


NVDA not reading lines in a multiple column document

Pranav Lal
 

Hi all,

I had to work with a word document that was split into multiple columns. I
am not talking about tables here but newspaper columns.

NVDA went silent for some lines. Jaws worked just fine which is how I know
that the document had multiple columns.

This was on my work computer running windows 10 1809 and Microsoft word 365.

I have tested on my home machine that has windows 10 Version 21H1 (OS Build
19043.1052) running word 365
Specifically:
MicrosoftR Word for Microsoft 365 MSO (16.0.14204.20000) 64-bit

The text is being read but the columns are not being detected.

Is anyone able to duplicate this? I am using NVDA version 2020.4.
Pranav


Re: Problem with Weather Plus Addon

Adriano Barbieri
 

Hi,
It works, something probably went wrong during the installation.
Try checking in %appdata%\nvda\addons and let them know.


Il 11/06/2021 07:13, Luke Davis ha scritto:

Adriano Barbieri posted the following to the add-ons list today:
You can get his contact information from NVDA's add-ons manager.

Hi to every one,

Download: https://www.nvda.it/files/plugin/weather_plus8.0.nvda-addon
Note: this package contains incomplete translations, due to delays with the translation system also for the emergency that Weather_Plus 7.7 with Yahoo
Weather API is no longer functional.
Note2: Set the API response language from the add-on settings window, if your language is available.
This thing is experimental, it may be that your language is missing, I know for example the Croatian one is missing, but if it should be unsatisfactory, in the future I will replace it with an internal translatable list.
Feedback is welcome.
Thanks

regards
Adriano






Re: Problem with Weather Plus Addon

Luke Davis
 

Adriano Barbieri posted the following to the add-ons list today:
You can get his contact information from NVDA's add-ons manager.

Hi to every one,

Download: https://www.nvda.it/files/plugin/weather_plus8.0.nvda-addon
Note: this package contains incomplete translations, due to delays with the translation system also for the emergency that Weather_Plus 7.7 with Yahoo
Weather API is no longer functional.
Note2: Set the API response language from the add-on settings window, if your language is available.
This thing is experimental, it may be that your language is missing, I know for example the Croatian one is missing, but if it should be unsatisfactory, in the future I will replace it with an internal translatable list.
Feedback is welcome.
Thanks

regards
Adriano

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