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locked Re: [Locked] Acapela Group Infovox4 Device to Go Out of Support in July 2022

Richard Wells
 

Hi Ru: will Tiflotecnia older 5.5 be made compatible as well for those of us who have purchased it? I need it for Thumb drive usage.

On 6/13/2021 9:08 AM, Rui Fontes wrote:

Hi!


Vocalizer Expressive from Tiflotecnia is already compatible with NVDA 2021.1.

Driver at:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/65nyehmf785d2r1/vocalizer_expressive_driver_3.1.5_Gen.nvda-addon?dl=1


Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 06:57 de 13/06/2021, Fawaz Abdul rahman escreveu:

Hi,

In addition to that, acapella add-on really slow and sometimes buggy, we can’t speed it up to 150 as I can with sapi voices from the config file.

And vocalizer voices, finding a working demo is quite hard, you download from 2-3 places and all not compatible with nvda above 2019.3, then you find one with eloquence which is also buggy.

For foreign language users, such as Arabic, finding a suitable voice without using a cracked version is quite difficult. And the situation hasn’t improved yet.

Good luck.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2021 5:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] acapella infovox4 to expire 2022

 

Hi.

 

Subject says it all.

 

I was mucking about looking at what extras I could buy for the system I

have and found that infovox4 which a few of us have managed to afford is

going out of support sometime next year.

 

Due to changes in markets and sales, acapella is dropping this product.

 

More likely in my opinion they can't keep up with all the new windows

updates, with windows 11 coming out later on who knows.

 

Up shot of this is that the only massive voice pack apart from orpheus

you can get is sadly the codefactory voices.

 

You can buy the acapella voices for nvda but I really want more sapi

voices and I want to be able to buy big packages instead of by the voice.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


locked Re: [Locked] Acapela Group Infovox4 Device to Go Out of Support in July 2022

Gene
 

Why do you say its better? 
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2021 9:09 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] acapella infovox4 to expire 2022
 

Sapi Five eloquence is way better than the add-on. But then again these choices are available for English or other few languages. But when come to Arabic for instance, the choices are really limited.

And other issues such as auto switching, speed, quality etc.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2021 3:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] acapella infovox4 to expire 2022

 

I would urge people to get demos of these products and form your own conclusions.  I’m not sure just what is being compared with what.  I can say that concerning Eloquence, I have seen no pronunciation problems regarding Eloquence in the legal versions.  I don’t like nor use the other synthesizers being discussed but I did use The SAPI version of Eloquence as a demo and the add-on that contains Eloquence and another synthesizer.  I didn’t use the add-on much.  But, since the SAPI 5 Eloquence was fine, I don’t expect pronunciation problems with the add-on Eloquence. 

 

I don’t recall who makes the add-on and the SAPI 5 versions. 

 

Another thing not discussed is whether the dialects used are the same.  The Brittish Eloquence is poor.  It sounds like someone who isn’t Brittish trying to imitate a Brittish acdcent.  The American dialect is as it should be.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2021 5:57 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] acapella infovox4 to expire 2022

 

To be honest I have the sapi vocaliser and eloquence.

I use both for gaming but I'd never use either for standard speech.

Compaired to the cracked realspeak ones there are all sorts of pronounciation issues with the code factory ones.

The only reasons I went to the legal ones to be honest is.

1.  64 bit support and its stickability with windows settings and not have to muck about with control panels all over the place, and.

2.  the fact that to install them in 64 bit I had to get a hacked installer to install the hacked datafiles to then do as above.

I am a little disapointed there are not many more packs.

I would prefer not using nvda addons because sapi means no incompatability and no restriction.

However for performance which includes website and emails espeak while its non human, crappy and robotic as all heck is at least fast performance wize and loaded internally.

99.9% of the daily tasks are not games, or books and don't need the voice to be good, they just have to be read.

I don't need the voice to sound high quality, I just need the voice to sound clear enough to read or type.

Espeak ng is clear and doesn't sound bad at all.

Saying that microsoft voices for all thhat are ok, there even is an hack somewhere that gets me to run cortana voice as a sapi synth.

That means well it could all be fine.

I looked at cereproc and while yeah it sounds all nice, I want not just 1 voice, but all x language voices.

Ie all novelty voices,+ all english voices of all countries.

While I don't mind paying the 10 bucks for the 6 or so novelty voices, I object to the 30-40 bucks per standard voice.

The only thing I may buy are the neospeech sapi voices released by maxiaids and produced by irty.

I'd like the rest from readspeaker but guess what, to use them as sapi and buy all the voices even on subscription is so far out of my price range I may as well pay for bionic eyes!

Case in point bar the orpheus voices which I brought because they just cost 40 bucks just to say I own them all, we don't have many voices to chose from in actual fact.

At one point we had inoetic but guess what, in flight sims and a few other things they just don't pan out right.

At any rate inoetics is no more and I guess their regserver is also busted to, and that was 80 bucks wasted.

I don't mind what I have but If code factory voices are all we have as a pack its a little abismal.

I mean give me a break, in the early times sure but now well.

No ivona because now part of amazon, and acapella is going cloud.

What's left.

Festival, pico and flite.

Except flite sounds really bad and anyway there hasn't been a release of festvox anything since 2014.

So yeah I think if this is what comercial stuff is now for spaciffics and not really for users as such not unless you want 1 voice or 2, then maybe we need to make our own voices and forget things.

I still have espeak but espeak ng does have sapi voices about to download, not sure if there is an editer for espeak ng, but maybe I should learn it.

I have the time, in fact I may just do so.

Due to covid, I have been holding on to a lot more cash than usual, usually I get 1 or so upgrades a year but with shipping and the fact I have enough drives, flash, standard and an off sight backup I suddenly have just about everything I want except the really expensive out of reach stuff, and now with acapella doing what its done even that is out of the loop.

I have ehough sets, there is 1 other thing I'd really like but thats about it.

Maybe I may buy all the sereproc voices one day but really.

 

 

On 13/06/2021 5:57 pm, Fawaz Abdul rahman wrote:

Hi,

In addition to that, acapella add-on really slow and sometimes buggy, we can’t speed it up to 150 as I can with sapi voices from the config file.

And vocalizer voices, finding a working demo is quite hard, you download from 2-3 places and all not compatible with nvda above 2019.3, then you find one with eloquence which is also buggy.

For foreign language users, such as Arabic, finding a suitable voice without using a cracked version is quite difficult. And the situation hasn’t improved yet.

Good luck.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2021 5:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] acapella infovox4 to expire 2022

 

Hi.

 

Subject says it all.

 

I was mucking about looking at what extras I could buy for the system I

have and found that infovox4 which a few of us have managed to afford is

going out of support sometime next year.

 

Due to changes in markets and sales, acapella is dropping this product.

 

More likely in my opinion they can't keep up with all the new windows

updates, with windows 11 coming out later on who knows.

 

Up shot of this is that the only massive voice pack apart from orpheus

you can get is sadly the codefactory voices.

 

You can buy the acapella voices for nvda but I really want more sapi

voices and I want to be able to buy big packages instead of by the voice.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


locked Re: [Locked] Acapela Group Infovox4 Device to Go Out of Support in July 2022

Fawaz Abdul rahman
 

Sapi Five eloquence is way better than the add-on. But then again these choices are available for English or other few languages. But when come to Arabic for instance, the choices are really limited.

And other issues such as auto switching, speed, quality etc.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2021 3:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] acapella infovox4 to expire 2022

 

I would urge people to get demos of these products and form your own conclusions.  I’m not sure just what is being compared with what.  I can say that concerning Eloquence, I have seen no pronunciation problems regarding Eloquence in the legal versions.  I don’t like nor use the other synthesizers being discussed but I did use The SAPI version of Eloquence as a demo and the add-on that contains Eloquence and another synthesizer.  I didn’t use the add-on much.  But, since the SAPI 5 Eloquence was fine, I don’t expect pronunciation problems with the add-on Eloquence. 

 

I don’t recall who makes the add-on and the SAPI 5 versions. 

 

Another thing not discussed is whether the dialects used are the same.  The Brittish Eloquence is poor.  It sounds like someone who isn’t Brittish trying to imitate a Brittish acdcent.  The American dialect is as it should be.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2021 5:57 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] acapella infovox4 to expire 2022

 

To be honest I have the sapi vocaliser and eloquence.

I use both for gaming but I'd never use either for standard speech.

Compaired to the cracked realspeak ones there are all sorts of pronounciation issues with the code factory ones.

The only reasons I went to the legal ones to be honest is.

1.  64 bit support and its stickability with windows settings and not have to muck about with control panels all over the place, and.

2.  the fact that to install them in 64 bit I had to get a hacked installer to install the hacked datafiles to then do as above.

I am a little disapointed there are not many more packs.

I would prefer not using nvda addons because sapi means no incompatability and no restriction.

However for performance which includes website and emails espeak while its non human, crappy and robotic as all heck is at least fast performance wize and loaded internally.

99.9% of the daily tasks are not games, or books and don't need the voice to be good, they just have to be read.

I don't need the voice to sound high quality, I just need the voice to sound clear enough to read or type.

Espeak ng is clear and doesn't sound bad at all.

Saying that microsoft voices for all thhat are ok, there even is an hack somewhere that gets me to run cortana voice as a sapi synth.

That means well it could all be fine.

I looked at cereproc and while yeah it sounds all nice, I want not just 1 voice, but all x language voices.

Ie all novelty voices,+ all english voices of all countries.

While I don't mind paying the 10 bucks for the 6 or so novelty voices, I object to the 30-40 bucks per standard voice.

The only thing I may buy are the neospeech sapi voices released by maxiaids and produced by irty.

I'd like the rest from readspeaker but guess what, to use them as sapi and buy all the voices even on subscription is so far out of my price range I may as well pay for bionic eyes!

Case in point bar the orpheus voices which I brought because they just cost 40 bucks just to say I own them all, we don't have many voices to chose from in actual fact.

At one point we had inoetic but guess what, in flight sims and a few other things they just don't pan out right.

At any rate inoetics is no more and I guess their regserver is also busted to, and that was 80 bucks wasted.

I don't mind what I have but If code factory voices are all we have as a pack its a little abismal.

I mean give me a break, in the early times sure but now well.

No ivona because now part of amazon, and acapella is going cloud.

What's left.

Festival, pico and flite.

Except flite sounds really bad and anyway there hasn't been a release of festvox anything since 2014.

So yeah I think if this is what comercial stuff is now for spaciffics and not really for users as such not unless you want 1 voice or 2, then maybe we need to make our own voices and forget things.

I still have espeak but espeak ng does have sapi voices about to download, not sure if there is an editer for espeak ng, but maybe I should learn it.

I have the time, in fact I may just do so.

Due to covid, I have been holding on to a lot more cash than usual, usually I get 1 or so upgrades a year but with shipping and the fact I have enough drives, flash, standard and an off sight backup I suddenly have just about everything I want except the really expensive out of reach stuff, and now with acapella doing what its done even that is out of the loop.

I have ehough sets, there is 1 other thing I'd really like but thats about it.

Maybe I may buy all the sereproc voices one day but really.

 

 

On 13/06/2021 5:57 pm, Fawaz Abdul rahman wrote:

Hi,

In addition to that, acapella add-on really slow and sometimes buggy, we can’t speed it up to 150 as I can with sapi voices from the config file.

And vocalizer voices, finding a working demo is quite hard, you download from 2-3 places and all not compatible with nvda above 2019.3, then you find one with eloquence which is also buggy.

For foreign language users, such as Arabic, finding a suitable voice without using a cracked version is quite difficult. And the situation hasn’t improved yet.

Good luck.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2021 5:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] acapella infovox4 to expire 2022

 

Hi.

 

Subject says it all.

 

I was mucking about looking at what extras I could buy for the system I

have and found that infovox4 which a few of us have managed to afford is

going out of support sometime next year.

 

Due to changes in markets and sales, acapella is dropping this product.

 

More likely in my opinion they can't keep up with all the new windows

updates, with windows 11 coming out later on who knows.

 

Up shot of this is that the only massive voice pack apart from orpheus

you can get is sadly the codefactory voices.

 

You can buy the acapella voices for nvda but I really want more sapi

voices and I want to be able to buy big packages instead of by the voice.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


locked Re: [Locked] Acapela Group Infovox4 Device to Go Out of Support in July 2022

Rui Fontes
 

Hi!


Vocalizer Expressive from Tiflotecnia is already compatible with NVDA 2021.1.

Driver at:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/65nyehmf785d2r1/vocalizer_expressive_driver_3.1.5_Gen.nvda-addon?dl=1


Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 06:57 de 13/06/2021, Fawaz Abdul rahman escreveu:

Hi,

In addition to that, acapella add-on really slow and sometimes buggy, we can’t speed it up to 150 as I can with sapi voices from the config file.

And vocalizer voices, finding a working demo is quite hard, you download from 2-3 places and all not compatible with nvda above 2019.3, then you find one with eloquence which is also buggy.

For foreign language users, such as Arabic, finding a suitable voice without using a cracked version is quite difficult. And the situation hasn’t improved yet.

Good luck.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2021 5:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] acapella infovox4 to expire 2022

 

Hi.

 

Subject says it all.

 

I was mucking about looking at what extras I could buy for the system I

have and found that infovox4 which a few of us have managed to afford is

going out of support sometime next year.

 

Due to changes in markets and sales, acapella is dropping this product.

 

More likely in my opinion they can't keep up with all the new windows

updates, with windows 11 coming out later on who knows.

 

Up shot of this is that the only massive voice pack apart from orpheus

you can get is sadly the codefactory voices.

 

You can buy the acapella voices for nvda but I really want more sapi

voices and I want to be able to buy big packages instead of by the voice.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


locked Re: [Locked] Acapela Group Infovox4 Device to Go Out of Support in July 2022

Gene
 

I would urge people to get demos of these products and form your own conclusions.  I’m not sure just what is being compared with what.  I can say that concerning Eloquence, I have seen no pronunciation problems regarding Eloquence in the legal versions.  I don’t like nor use the other synthesizers being discussed but I did use The SAPI version of Eloquence as a demo and the add-on that contains Eloquence and another synthesizer.  I didn’t use the add-on much.  But, since the SAPI 5 Eloquence was fine, I don’t expect pronunciation problems with the add-on Eloquence. 
 
I don’t recall who makes the add-on and the SAPI 5 versions. 
 
Another thing not discussed is whether the dialects used are the same.  The Brittish Eloquence is poor.  It sounds like someone who isn’t Brittish trying to imitate a Brittish acdcent.  The American dialect is as it should be.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2021 5:57 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] acapella infovox4 to expire 2022
 

To be honest I have the sapi vocaliser and eloquence.

I use both for gaming but I'd never use either for standard speech.

Compaired to the cracked realspeak ones there are all sorts of pronounciation issues with the code factory ones.

The only reasons I went to the legal ones to be honest is.

1.  64 bit support and its stickability with windows settings and not have to muck about with control panels all over the place, and.

2.  the fact that to install them in 64 bit I had to get a hacked installer to install the hacked datafiles to then do as above.

I am a little disapointed there are not many more packs.

I would prefer not using nvda addons because sapi means no incompatability and no restriction.

However for performance which includes website and emails espeak while its non human, crappy and robotic as all heck is at least fast performance wize and loaded internally.

99.9% of the daily tasks are not games, or books and don't need the voice to be good, they just have to be read.

I don't need the voice to sound high quality, I just need the voice to sound clear enough to read or type.

Espeak ng is clear and doesn't sound bad at all.

Saying that microsoft voices for all thhat are ok, there even is an hack somewhere that gets me to run cortana voice as a sapi synth.

That means well it could all be fine.

I looked at cereproc and while yeah it sounds all nice, I want not just 1 voice, but all x language voices.

Ie all novelty voices,+ all english voices of all countries.

While I don't mind paying the 10 bucks for the 6 or so novelty voices, I object to the 30-40 bucks per standard voice.

The only thing I may buy are the neospeech sapi voices released by maxiaids and produced by irty.

I'd like the rest from readspeaker but guess what, to use them as sapi and buy all the voices even on subscription is so far out of my price range I may as well pay for bionic eyes!

Case in point bar the orpheus voices which I brought because they just cost 40 bucks just to say I own them all, we don't have many voices to chose from in actual fact.

At one point we had inoetic but guess what, in flight sims and a few other things they just don't pan out right.

At any rate inoetics is no more and I guess their regserver is also busted to, and that was 80 bucks wasted.

I don't mind what I have but If code factory voices are all we have as a pack its a little abismal.

I mean give me a break, in the early times sure but now well.

No ivona because now part of amazon, and acapella is going cloud.

What's left.

Festival, pico and flite.

Except flite sounds really bad and anyway there hasn't been a release of festvox anything since 2014.

So yeah I think if this is what comercial stuff is now for spaciffics and not really for users as such not unless you want 1 voice or 2, then maybe we need to make our own voices and forget things.

I still have espeak but espeak ng does have sapi voices about to download, not sure if there is an editer for espeak ng, but maybe I should learn it.

I have the time, in fact I may just do so.

Due to covid, I have been holding on to a lot more cash than usual, usually I get 1 or so upgrades a year but with shipping and the fact I have enough drives, flash, standard and an off sight backup I suddenly have just about everything I want except the really expensive out of reach stuff, and now with acapella doing what its done even that is out of the loop.

I have ehough sets, there is 1 other thing I'd really like but thats about it.

Maybe I may buy all the sereproc voices one day but really.

 

 

On 13/06/2021 5:57 pm, Fawaz Abdul rahman wrote:

Hi,

In addition to that, acapella add-on really slow and sometimes buggy, we can’t speed it up to 150 as I can with sapi voices from the config file.

And vocalizer voices, finding a working demo is quite hard, you download from 2-3 places and all not compatible with nvda above 2019.3, then you find one with eloquence which is also buggy.

For foreign language users, such as Arabic, finding a suitable voice without using a cracked version is quite difficult. And the situation hasn’t improved yet.

Good luck.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2021 5:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] acapella infovox4 to expire 2022

 

Hi.

 

Subject says it all.

 

I was mucking about looking at what extras I could buy for the system I

have and found that infovox4 which a few of us have managed to afford is

going out of support sometime next year.

 

Due to changes in markets and sales, acapella is dropping this product.

 

More likely in my opinion they can't keep up with all the new windows

updates, with windows 11 coming out later on who knows.

 

Up shot of this is that the only massive voice pack apart from orpheus

you can get is sadly the codefactory voices.

 

You can buy the acapella voices for nvda but I really want more sapi

voices and I want to be able to buy big packages instead of by the voice.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


locked Re: [Locked] Acapela Group Infovox4 Device to Go Out of Support in July 2022

 

To be honest I have the sapi vocaliser and eloquence.

I use both for gaming but I'd never use either for standard speech.

Compaired to the cracked realspeak ones there are all sorts of pronounciation issues with the code factory ones.

The only reasons I went to the legal ones to be honest is.

1.  64 bit support and its stickability with windows settings and not have to muck about with control panels all over the place, and.

2.  the fact that to install them in 64 bit I had to get a hacked installer to install the hacked datafiles to then do as above.

I am a little disapointed there are not many more packs.

I would prefer not using nvda addons because sapi means no incompatability and no restriction.

However for performance which includes website and emails espeak while its non human, crappy and robotic as all heck is at least fast performance wize and loaded internally.

99.9% of the daily tasks are not games, or books and don't need the voice to be good, they just have to be read.

I don't need the voice to sound high quality, I just need the voice to sound clear enough to read or type.

Espeak ng is clear and doesn't sound bad at all.

Saying that microsoft voices for all thhat are ok, there even is an hack somewhere that gets me to run cortana voice as a sapi synth.

That means well it could all be fine.

I looked at cereproc and while yeah it sounds all nice, I want not just 1 voice, but all x language voices.

Ie all novelty voices,+ all english voices of all countries.

While I don't mind paying the 10 bucks for the 6 or so novelty voices, I object to the 30-40 bucks per standard voice.

The only thing I may buy are the neospeech sapi voices released by maxiaids and produced by irty.

I'd like the rest from readspeaker but guess what, to use them as sapi and buy all the voices even on subscription is so far out of my price range I may as well pay for bionic eyes!

Case in point bar the orpheus voices which I brought because they just cost 40 bucks just to say I own them all, we don't have many voices to chose from in actual fact.

At one point we had inoetic but guess what, in flight sims and a few other things they just don't pan out right.

At any rate inoetics is no more and I guess their regserver is also busted to, and that was 80 bucks wasted.

I don't mind what I have but If code factory voices are all we have as a pack its a little abismal.

I mean give me a break, in the early times sure but now well.

No ivona because now part of amazon, and acapella is going cloud.

What's left.

Festival, pico and flite.

Except flite sounds really bad and anyway there hasn't been a release of festvox anything since 2014.

So yeah I think if this is what comercial stuff is now for spaciffics and not really for users as such not unless you want 1 voice or 2, then maybe we need to make our own voices and forget things.

I still have espeak but espeak ng does have sapi voices about to download, not sure if there is an editer for espeak ng, but maybe I should learn it.

I have the time, in fact I may just do so.

Due to covid, I have been holding on to a lot more cash than usual, usually I get 1 or so upgrades a year but with shipping and the fact I have enough drives, flash, standard and an off sight backup I suddenly have just about everything I want except the really expensive out of reach stuff, and now with acapella doing what its done even that is out of the loop.

I have ehough sets, there is 1 other thing I'd really like but thats about it.

Maybe I may buy all the sereproc voices one day but really.



On 13/06/2021 5:57 pm, Fawaz Abdul rahman wrote:

Hi,

In addition to that, acapella add-on really slow and sometimes buggy, we can’t speed it up to 150 as I can with sapi voices from the config file.

And vocalizer voices, finding a working demo is quite hard, you download from 2-3 places and all not compatible with nvda above 2019.3, then you find one with eloquence which is also buggy.

For foreign language users, such as Arabic, finding a suitable voice without using a cracked version is quite difficult. And the situation hasn’t improved yet.

Good luck.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2021 5:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] acapella infovox4 to expire 2022

 

Hi.

 

Subject says it all.

 

I was mucking about looking at what extras I could buy for the system I

have and found that infovox4 which a few of us have managed to afford is

going out of support sometime next year.

 

Due to changes in markets and sales, acapella is dropping this product.

 

More likely in my opinion they can't keep up with all the new windows

updates, with windows 11 coming out later on who knows.

 

Up shot of this is that the only massive voice pack apart from orpheus

you can get is sadly the codefactory voices.

 

You can buy the acapella voices for nvda but I really want more sapi

voices and I want to be able to buy big packages instead of by the voice.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Reading characters phonetically

Chris Mullins
 

Hi

In addition to what Luke described, pressing NumPad 5 3 times will spell out the current word, NumPad 8 3 times will spell out the current line, both phonetically.

Cheers

Chris

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Luke Davis
Sent: 13 June 2021 00:11
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading characters phonetically

               

Lexi wrote:

 

> Hello, is there a way to get NVDA to read characters phonetically? Such as, A: alpha, B: bravo, and so on?--

 

If your cursor is on the character, or the review cursor is, pressing the

numpad 2 key twice (desktop mode), will read the character phonetically.

 

If you want it to just read phonetically if you pause on a character while

using the arrow keys, like iOS Voiceover does in character mode, there is

an add-on for that, although I can't find it currently.

 

Luke

 

 

 

 

 


locked Re: [Locked] Acapela Group Infovox4 Device to Go Out of Support in July 2022

Fawaz Abdul rahman
 

Hi,

In addition to that, acapella add-on really slow and sometimes buggy, we can’t speed it up to 150 as I can with sapi voices from the config file.

And vocalizer voices, finding a working demo is quite hard, you download from 2-3 places and all not compatible with nvda above 2019.3, then you find one with eloquence which is also buggy.

For foreign language users, such as Arabic, finding a suitable voice without using a cracked version is quite difficult. And the situation hasn’t improved yet.

Good luck.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2021 5:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] acapella infovox4 to expire 2022

 

Hi.

 

Subject says it all.

 

I was mucking about looking at what extras I could buy for the system I

have and found that infovox4 which a few of us have managed to afford is

going out of support sometime next year.

 

Due to changes in markets and sales, acapella is dropping this product.

 

More likely in my opinion they can't keep up with all the new windows

updates, with windows 11 coming out later on who knows.

 

Up shot of this is that the only massive voice pack apart from orpheus

you can get is sadly the codefactory voices.

 

You can buy the acapella voices for nvda but I really want more sapi

voices and I want to be able to buy big packages instead of by the voice.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


locked [Locked] Acapela Group Infovox4 Device to Go Out of Support in July 2022

 

Hi.

Subject says it all.

I was mucking about looking at what extras I could buy for the system I have and found that infovox4 which a few of us have managed to afford is going out of support sometime next year.

Due to changes in markets and sales, acapella is dropping this product.

More likely in my opinion they can't keep up with all the new windows updates, with windows 11 coming out later on who knows.

Up shot of this is that the only massive voice pack apart from orpheus you can get is sadly the codefactory voices.

You can buy the acapella voices for nvda but I really want more sapi voices and I want to be able to buy big packages instead of by the voice.


Re: Looking for accessible video recording software that supports screen recording

Pranav Lal
 

Hi Brian,

 

I had forgotten about the Xbox bar. Thanks for reminding me  and it is the first thing I will try.

 

Pranav


Re: Looking for accessible video recording software that supports screen recording

Sascha Cowley
 

I also had a bit of a play with this last year, and found it to be a bit fiddly to use with NVDA. From memory, you can only record a single program with this solution though.

On 2021-06-13 08:17, Brian Vogel wrote:
Have you considered playing with the Xbox Game Bar that's built in to Windows 10.  The name is a bit offputting, but it was initially thought of as a way for gamers to record game play, but you can use it to record anything.

You can record what's happening on the screen, sound from the computer, and add your own voice narration if you so choose.  Given that it is a Windows built-in it should be accessible.

Keyboard shortcuts for Xbox Game Bar - support.microsoft.com

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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: Reading characters phonetically

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!


Here is the add-on:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/q75mnyttr34zjpm/EnhancedPhoneticReading_0.5a2_Gen.nvda-addon?dl=1


Rui Fontes


Às 00:16 de 13/06/2021, Lexi escreveu:

That add-on is exactly what I meant. That's exactly what I'm looking for.

On Sat, Jun 12, 2021 at 6:11 PM Luke Davis <luke@...> wrote:
Lexi wrote:

> Hello, is there a way to get NVDA to read characters phonetically? Such as, A: alpha, B: bravo, and so on?--

If your cursor is on the character, or the review cursor is, pressing the
numpad 2 key twice (desktop mode), will read the character phonetically.

If you want it to just read phonetically if you pause on a character while
using the arrow keys, like iOS Voiceover does in character mode, there is
an add-on for that, although I can't find it currently.

Luke





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Please be blessed and be safe. Thank you,
Lexi


Re: Reading characters phonetically

Luke Davis
 

Lexi wrote:

That add-on is exactly what I meant. That's exactly what I'm looking for.
Lexi, below is a link to the latest version. But it hasn't been updated in a long time, and depending on which version of NVDA you have, it may not install.
It definitely won't work with NVDA 2021.1 beta, if you have that.
I have written to the author to find out his intentions for updating it. For now, if you want to try it, here's the link.

https://github.com/davidacm/EnhancedPhoneticReading/releases/download/0.5a2/EnhancedPhoneticReading-0.5a2.nvda-addon

Luke


Re: Reading characters phonetically

Lexi
 

That add-on is exactly what I meant. That's exactly what I'm looking for.

On Sat, Jun 12, 2021 at 6:11 PM Luke Davis <luke@...> wrote:
Lexi wrote:

> Hello, is there a way to get NVDA to read characters phonetically? Such as, A: alpha, B: bravo, and so on?--

If your cursor is on the character, or the review cursor is, pressing the
numpad 2 key twice (desktop mode), will read the character phonetically.

If you want it to just read phonetically if you pause on a character while
using the arrow keys, like iOS Voiceover does in character mode, there is
an add-on for that, although I can't find it currently.

Luke





--
Please be blessed and be safe. Thank you,
Lexi


Re: Reading characters phonetically

Luke Davis
 

Lexi wrote:

Hello, is there a way to get NVDA to read characters phonetically? Such as, A: alpha, B: bravo, and so on?--
If your cursor is on the character, or the review cursor is, pressing the numpad 2 key twice (desktop mode), will read the character phonetically.

If you want it to just read phonetically if you pause on a character while using the arrow keys, like iOS Voiceover does in character mode, there is an add-on for that, although I can't find it currently.

Luke


Reading characters phonetically

Lexi
 

Hello, is there a way to get NVDA to read characters phonetically? Such as, A: alpha, B: bravo, and so on?--
Please be blessed and be safe. Thank you,
Lexi


Re: Looking for accessible video recording software that supports screen recording

 
Edited

Have you considered playing with the Xbox Game Bar that's built in to Windows 10?  The name is a bit offputting, but it was initially thought of as a way for gamers to record game play, but you can use it to record anything.

You can record what's happening on the screen, sound from the computer, and add your own voice narration if you so choose.  Given that it is a Windows built-in it should be accessible.

Keyboard shortcuts for Xbox Game Bar - support.microsoft.com

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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: Looking for accessible video recording software that supports screen recording

Sascha Cowley
 

I have also used Debut in the past, and it was fairly accessible, though this was more than 5 years ago at this point.
The official link is https://www.nchsoftware.com/capture/


locked Re: Renaming or moving sheets in Excel

 

A couple of bits here, some of direct help, some from a moderator's standpoint.

1.  The keyboard shortcuts for ANY Microsoft product in ANY language it happens to be translated to can be found with a simple web search provided it's being done from the location that is appropriate to the regional language being discussed.  If I search here in the USA, I always end up in the part of support.microsoft.com that's followed with "en-us" (English, United States).  I seem to recall when once playing with a VPN to fake being in a completely different country that searches such as this would bring me in to Microsoft's support pages for the correct language and region.  In the case of Office for the USA, the links to the shortcuts for all the Office suite here:

Keyboard shortcuts in Office - support.microsoft.com
or just Excel here:

Keyboard shortcuts in Excel - Office Support

If I am incorrect about that, then would someone please report how they get to the Microsoft Support pages for their specific region and language?

2. This is the perfect example of a question that is not about NVDA.  It's about Excel.  There's not a blessed thing that's NVDA specific about it.  Thus, this sort of question should be asked either on the Chat Subgroup or elsewhere.  Our group description states:
The central purpose of this group is discussing how to use NVDA. This includes configuring NVDA's settings or familiarizing oneself with its modes and commands.  Discussions about which programs are accessible using NVDA, NVDA add-ons, NVDA tutorials and documentation, and configuring synthesizers or Braille displays for use with NVDA are also permitted.
and our group rules state:
It is presumed that the majority of members will be using NVDA, and possibly other screen readers, as part of their daily routine.  This being the case, before you post a message you have to consider whether the question you are about to ask is actually about NVDA itself, or about the program you’re using it to access.  Questions of the form, How do I use . . . with NVDA?, are very seldom about NVDA, but are almost always about the program being accessed with NVDA.

And I actually expect people to pay attention to both.  If the question is really not about NVDA or really closely related stuff like configuring things like braille displays to work with it, or the accessibility of a given program with it, it doesn't belong on this group.

I am asking, directly, that people think before they post and choose the venue that is appropriate for the question they're about to ask.  Those who want to answer non-NVDA questions, and I'm among them, are participants in those venues.  But the folks who elect to participate only here have made it clear that the strong preference is for sticking with NVDA-centric discussions.

Any further discussion about Excel should be taken to the Chat Subgroup, or, if you prefer, to the Microsoft Office Accessibility Discussion Group.  Here are the addresses:
Chat Subgroup:

Microsoft Office Accessibility Discussion Group:


This topic is now locked.

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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


locked Re: Renaming or moving sheets in Excel

Howard Traxler
 

Moving between sheets in a file is done with ctrl+PgDn.  The name of the newly arrived sheet is announced.  Is that still correct?  I'm using an older version of Excel.

On 6/12/2021 5:02 AM, Sandra Pilz wrote:

Hi,


When using JAWS or Narrator in Excel, once you have opened a file, you can press f6 to see the name of the current sheet, to see other sheets in the file , rename it or select another sheet. When using NVDA, pressing f6 does nothing.


Is there another way to get to the sheet list in NVDA?


I use Office 365 and NVDA 2020.4.


Regards


Sandra

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