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Re: OCR software

Robert Kingett <kingettspeaks@...>
 

I was not able to tell if the cloud OCR is a new one, either. A Google search turns up the old one on the website and I have not tried the other suggestion.    


Re: microsoft word 2-16 and outlook 2016:

Pranav Lal
 

Sean,

What e-mail client do you suggest? I have looked at thunderbird but cannot use it because importing from outlook is broken. I need to do a lot of formatting of documents such as using styles so cannot switch to alternative office applications because as far as I know they lack the underlying infrastructure to communicate fully with NVDA.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 12:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] microsoft word 2-16 and outlook 2016:

I would use something other than ms outlook.
Unless it can be fixed.
I abandond ms office ages ago.
In fact I think if I ever hit the need for office that I will either use old office xp which I legally own or one of the free office installs.
I do know that office 2007 or 2010 will work and with the features I use I don't need the cloud office apps and so won't run into a problem.
Since I do have jarte though its about all I will need.
If libreoffice works well or openoffice that is then I will probably use that.
True, if someone offers me office whatever the latest is and its funded for my business then hmmm.
Maybe I will use jaws because thats what people do for office and just use nvda for my personal use but I'd really like to use nvda for as much as I can.
Technically I could use my other comercial readers but since nvda needs to be used on a lot of things well.
I have got used to the ribbon in office and the shortcuts and it works as it should as long as I know the various code sequences.



On 14/09/2016 5:34 p.m., Pranav Lal wrote:
Hi Paul,

I have indeed resorted to writing my replies in Notepad and pasting
them into Outlook. However, It is one more step and what if I have to
quote parts of a message? More formatting issues for one thing when I
transfer data between programs. So yes, there are workarounds but this
situation must be addressed.

On 9/14/16, Paul Benson <paul.benson@guidemail.co.uk> wrote:
Hello Pranav and all,

Thoroughly annoying when the half-composed message is lost. Perhaps a
plan B is available? Compose the reply message in Notepad or similar
and only open up Outlook to copy the completed reply from clipboard
into the required location. This also allows simple regular updates while composing.

Paul Benson.

-----Original Message-----
From: Pranav Lal - Email Address: pranav.lal@gmail.com Sent On:
14/09/2016 02:09 Sent To: nvda@nvda.groups.io - Email Address:
nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] microsoft word 2-16 and outlook 2016:

Kenny,



Outlook 2016 works with NVDA but there is one issue which renders it
almost unusable. At least on my computer, when composing a message or
replying to a message, NVDA locks up randomly. The only way to
recover is to reboot the computer. I have raised tickets about this
problem.



Pranav

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Kenny Peyattt jr.
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 10:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] microsoft word 2-16 and outlook 2016:



Hi how well does outlook and Microsoft word 2016 work with nvda? I am
planning on upgrading to office 2016 soon, and I was wondering how
accessible Microsoft outlook 2016 is.

Kenny Peyattt jr.








Re: Microsoft Word with NVDA by NV Access now available

Quentin Christensen
 

In something like the document field in Word, if you use the review cursor to mark text with NVDA+f9 to start and NVDA+f10 to end, it is selected just as if you'd used shift+arrows, so you could use control+c to copy or control+b to bold or anything else you can do with selected text.

In other places where the text is not otherwise accessible (in the winver dialog for instance), you do need to use NVDA+f10 to copy as control+c won't work there.

Regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 12:50 AM, Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@...> wrote:
Your message encouraged me to check this out and it does indeed work as you suggest.  After using NVDA+f9 to start mark, the First NVDA+f10 does the end mark and selects the text between the 2 points, then the second f10 press copies it to the clipboard, so the second f10 press is identical to pressing Ctrl+c but you could replace it with ctrl+x if you want to cut the selected text and use ctrl+v to paste it elsewhere.

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of nasrin khaksar
Sent: 14 September 2016 13:53
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft Word with NVDA by NV Access now available

hi Quentin.
thanks so much for your patience and answering our questions in a very good manner.
i have a question about nvda 2016.3 and text selection.
in previous versions, when we press control+f9, we starting mark our selection.
after that, when we press control+f10, our selection is copied to the clipboard.
right?
now, in the new version, as usual, when we use control+f9, we specify our selection.
after finishing our selection, we should control+f10 twice quickly to our selection be copied.
but what happen if we use control+f10 once like previous versions?
for example: if we use it once, is it possible to use windows regular commands like control+x control+c and control+v?
thanks for your help and God bless you!

On 9/14/16, Cearbhall O'Meadhra <cearbhall.omeadhra@...> wrote:
> Quentin,
>
>
>
> You say that the copy selection (F10 twice) should only move the caret
> if certain objects are in focus. What does this mean?
>
>
>
> I have tried the F9 and double F10 sequence  with NVDA+6 set to "caret
> moves review cursor " "on" and "off" alternately, but the double F10
> always moves the caret to the copied text. To be sure that I am making
> myself clear: in the sample, when I double click F10 to copy "Bert", I
> find the caret has jumped from the last line where I removed "Brown"
> to the immediate right edge of the word Bert" on the top line.
>
>
>
> How can I get the caret to stay in place and not move up?
>
>
>
> All the best,
>
>
>
> Cearbhall
>
>
>
> m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e:
> cearbhall.omeadhra@...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I use the free version of Spam Reader to get rid of spam. The
> Professional version doesn't have this disclaimer in outgoing emails.
> Try Spam Reader <http://www.spam-reader.com/disclaimer.shtml>  for free now!
>
>
>
>
>
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
> Quentin Christensen
> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 1:30 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft Word with NVDA by NV Access now
> available
>
>
>
> Cearbhall,
>
>
>
> Well picked up!  Yes that behaviour of the review cursor has changed
> just this week in NVDA 2016.3, and as you've reminded me, we need to
> update that sample section of the Basic Training for NVDA module.
>
>
>
> Pressing NVDA+f10 twice (quickly) should copy the selection to the
> clipboard.  Depending on the type of object that has focus, selecting
> the text (the first press) may move the focus you are right, but it
> should copy if you press NVDA+f10 twice quickly - within say a second
> or less - similar to pressing NVDA+f12 twice quickly to get the date,
> or pressing any of the reading commands twice to spell something.
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> Quentin.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 9:52 PM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra
> <cearbhall.omeadhra@... <mailto:cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie> > wrote:
>
> Quentin,
>
>
>
> I was trying out the free sample on the web page.
>
>
>
> I am not fully familiar with the review cursor and so I tried to
> follow the sample exercise.  as I am a bit confused about the copying
> stroke. The manual says insert+F9 to start the mark and then one
> keystroke of insert
> F10
> to copy it. However, NVDA keyboard help says that NVDA F10 should be
> pressed twice to copy the sleection. I also found that after pressing
> insert F10 twice, the caret  moved to the position of the word being
> copied and moved away from the last line position where it was
> expected to be.
>
>
>
> I have repeated this several times with both a single insert+F10 and a
> double insert+F10 and I cannot get it to work.  Any advice?
>
>
>
> All the best,
>
>
>
> Cearbhall
>
>
>
> m  <tel:%2B353%20%280%29833323487> +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353
> (0)1-2864623
> e:  <mailto:cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie> cearbhall.omeadhra@...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> From:  <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:
> <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin
> Christensen
> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 8:14 AM
> To:  <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: [nvda] Microsoft Word with NVDA by NV Access now available
>
>
>
> NV Access is very pleased to announce the release of "Microsoft Word
> with NVDA", the official training material for Microsoft Word with
> NVDA. It covers concepts from getting started with Word through to use
> of advanced features such as customising the status ribbon and running macros.
>
> Available from:
> <http://www.nvaccess.org/product/microsoft-word-training-for-nvda/>
> http://www.nvaccess.org/product/microsoft-word-training-for-nvda/
> initially in eBook formats (Braille and audio to follow) for AUD $30
> (+ $3 GST in Australia).
>
>
>
> Microsoft Word with NVDA is the second module in the official set of
> training materials for learning to use the free NVDA screen reader.
> Suitable
> for the new and existing user of Microsoft Word wishing to improve
> proficiency. This module assumes that the user has completed the
> "Basic Training for NVDA" module, or has equivalent knowledge.
>
> Topics covered include: Getting started with Microsoft Word,
> proofreading, styles, tables, page layout, referencing, inserting,
> collaboration and sharing and customising Word options. Formats included in this package:
> ePub, HTML, Word Docx and Mobi (Kindle).
>
> The purchase price of this product supports the work of NV Access and
> our ability to provide the NVDA screen reading software free of charge.
>
> If you would like to sample the style of the material prior to
> purchasing, we have made an extract of the Basic Training for NVDA
> module freely available on our website,  <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
> http://www.nvaccess.org/.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Quentin Christensen
> Training Material Developer
>
> Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available:
> http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
>
>
>
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>
> Direct:  <tel:%2B61%20413%20904%20383> +61 413 904 383
> <http://www.nvaccess.org/> www.nvaccess.org
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> http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
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>
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>
> --
>
> Quentin Christensen
> Training Material Developer
>
> Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available:
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>
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>
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--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: Finding in MS Word

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Christo,

Yes control+alt+y should work to "find next" in any version of word - at least 2010 through 2016.  Alternatively the previously mentioned control+page up and control+page down should work exactly the same (unless you go into the goto dialog and use it to go to something else).

Regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 1:23 AM, Christo de Klerk <christodeklerk@...> wrote:
Hello all

The shortcut key for next search result is ctrl+alt+y. Nice and easy.

Kind regards

Other Christo


On 2016/09/14 9:28 AM, Christo Vorster wrote:
Hi everyone

 
I used to use ctrl+f for find in Word.

 
Since I got the advice on search that circulated lately on the list I started using it as it was set out in the list. It works fantastically well.

 
I don’t think that hitting F6 several times is really the answer, rather use the escape and ctrl+pgdn, as described.

 
Thanks for all the input from all the listers.

 
Have a nice day

 
Christo Vorster (Worcester, South Africa)

 
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of mohammad suliman
Sent: Friday, 09 September 2016 12:52 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Finding in MS Word

 
I can confirm this also. Windows 7 and office 2010

here are some tips to work with the find functionality of word 2010:

*       hit ctrl + f to go to the search field
*       enter the term you wish to search for, and hit enter
*       use f6 (several times, maybe 3) to get back to the document, where the first result is focused
*       to go to next / previous search result: hit f6, the focus will jump to the navigation toolbar, from there click previous / next search result
*       again, use f6, several times, as needed, to get back to the document where the search result is focused

 
I don't know the shortcuts for previous / next search result, sorry!

hope that helps!

 
On Fri, 9 Sep 2016 at 01:11 kelby carlson <kelbycarlson@...> wrote:

This is something that's pretty important for me to be able to do for
work (I suspect that's the case for many here.) If anyone has the
solution I would appreciate it.

On 9/8/16, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
I can confirm that I am not having any luck invoking the NVDA find via
INS+CTRL+F at this point in time using Windows 10 64-bit home, the latest
build of NVDA - 2016.3, and Microsoft Word 2010.

This has not been the case in the past and I don't think I'm doing anything
differently than I had been before.  I have, regardless of screen reader,
had many instances where I didn't seem to get the screen reader find with
INS+CTRL+F but generally would on a subsequent try.  Not in this case.  I
smell a possible bug.
--
Brian

I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's never
enough to keep up.
          ~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in
the Universe"














--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: OCR software

 

yes it does, its only 200 aud, and is cheaper than other ocr stuff.
Pluss abbyy has a habbit of including free offers in their software.
Unlike other software that could include malware or something like it, abbyy has always included the low cost software packages in its pro software.
a form filler for abbyy 6 and or 7, something for something else.
Right now its the 9 buck screen shot reader.
So yeah its always nice.

On 15/09/2016 9:49 a.m., P. Otter wrote:
hi try abbyy finereader, works very good with nvda.

cheers

paul otter



Op 14-9-2016 om 22:25 schreef Maurice Bell:
Hi all, can you advise of a good OCR software package that works well
with NVDA.


Thanks, Maurice.






Re: OCR software

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I use abbyy fine reader and it works great for me.

On 9/14/2016 2:49 PM, P. Otter wrote:
hi try abbyy finereader, works very good with nvda.

cheers

paul otter



Op 14-9-2016 om 22:25 schreef Maurice Bell:
Hi all, can you advise of a good OCR software package that works well
with NVDA.


Thanks, Maurice.





Re: OCR software

P. Otter
 

hi try abbyy finereader, works very good with nvda.

cheers

paul otter



Op 14-9-2016 om 22:25 schreef Maurice Bell:

Hi all, can you advise of a good OCR software package that works well
with NVDA.


Thanks, Maurice.



Re: OCR software

 

is it the same ocr addon on the site or is this new.

On 15/09/2016 8:44 a.m., Roger Stewart wrote:
Try Cloud OCR add on.

Roger









On 9/14/2016 3:25 PM, Maurice Bell wrote:
Hi all, can you advise of a good OCR software package that works well
with NVDA.


Thanks, Maurice.






Re: Notepad plus plus installer?

Salva Doménech Miguel <kibayasd@...>
 

Hi.
You can find it in ninite.
Cheers

El 14/09/2016 a las 22:27, Robert Kingett escribió:
​Hi all, I am looking for the windows setup file for notepad++ but cannot find it on the website. I plan to use it to blog with markdown and I was hoping someone would have the windows setup file? If so could someone dropbox it to me? If anyone has any other blogging ideas, let me know. I use a combination of Libreoffice and posting by email.


Re: OCR software

Roger Stewart
 

Try Cloud OCR add on.

Roger

On 9/14/2016 3:25 PM, Maurice Bell wrote:
Hi all, can you advise of a good OCR software package that works well
with NVDA.


Thanks, Maurice.



Re: Finding in MS Word

Arlene
 

Okay, that is good to know.Does this apply to all versions of word? From word 2010 to 2016?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: September-14-16 8:23 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Finding in MS Word

Hello all

The shortcut key for next search result is ctrl+alt+y. Nice and easy.

Kind regards

Other Christo


On 2016/09/14 9:28 AM, Christo Vorster wrote:
Hi everyone



I used to use ctrl+f for find in Word.



Since I got the advice on search that circulated lately on the list I started using it as it was set out in the list. It works fantastically well.



I don’t think that hitting F6 several times is really the answer, rather use the escape and ctrl+pgdn, as described.



Thanks for all the input from all the listers.



Have a nice day



Christo Vorster (Worcester, South Africa)



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
mohammad suliman
Sent: Friday, 09 September 2016 12:52 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Finding in MS Word



I can confirm this also. Windows 7 and office 2010

here are some tips to work with the find functionality of word 2010:

* hit ctrl + f to go to the search field
* enter the term you wish to search for, and hit enter
* use f6 (several times, maybe 3) to get back to the document, where the first result is focused
* to go to next / previous search result: hit f6, the focus will jump to the navigation toolbar, from there click previous / next search result
* again, use f6, several times, as needed, to get back to the document where the search result is focused



I don't know the shortcuts for previous / next search result, sorry!

hope that helps!



On Fri, 9 Sep 2016 at 01:11 kelby carlson <kelbycarlson@gmail.com> wrote:

This is something that's pretty important for me to be able to do for
work (I suspect that's the case for many here.) If anyone has the
solution I would appreciate it.

On 9/8/16, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
I can confirm that I am not having any luck invoking the NVDA find
via
INS+CTRL+F at this point in time using Windows 10 64-bit home, the
INS+CTRL+latest
build of NVDA - 2016.3, and Microsoft Word 2010.

This has not been the case in the past and I don't think I'm doing
anything differently than I had been before. I have, regardless of
screen reader, had many instances where I didn't seem to get the
screen reader find with
INS+CTRL+F but generally would on a subsequent try. Not in this
INS+CTRL+case. I
smell a possible bug.
--
Brian

I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's
never enough to keep up.
~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent
Life in the Universe"





Notepad plus plus installer?

Robert Kingett <kingettr@...>
 

​Hi all, I am looking for the windows setup file for notepad++ but cannot find it on the website. I plan to use it to blog with markdown and I was hoping someone would have the windows setup file? If so could someone dropbox it to me? If anyone has any other blogging ideas, let me know. I use a combination of Libreoffice and posting by email.


OCR software

Maurice Bell <itma-7@...>
 

Hi all, can you advise of a good OCR software package that works well
with NVDA.


Thanks, Maurice.


Re: Finding in MS Word

Chris Mullins
 

Yes it is easy to remember, that is unless, like me, you have defined ctrl+alt+y as a shortcut to an app, in which case it doesn't work.

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: 14 September 2016 16:23
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Finding in MS Word

Hello all

The shortcut key for next search result is ctrl+alt+y. Nice and easy.

Kind regards

Other Christo


On 2016/09/14 9:28 AM, Christo Vorster wrote:
Hi everyone



I used to use ctrl+f for find in Word.



Since I got the advice on search that circulated lately on the list I started using it as it was set out in the list. It works fantastically well.



I don’t think that hitting F6 several times is really the answer, rather use the escape and ctrl+pgdn, as described.



Thanks for all the input from all the listers.



Have a nice day



Christo Vorster (Worcester, South Africa)



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
mohammad suliman
Sent: Friday, 09 September 2016 12:52 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Finding in MS Word



I can confirm this also. Windows 7 and office 2010

here are some tips to work with the find functionality of word 2010:

* hit ctrl + f to go to the search field
* enter the term you wish to search for, and hit enter
* use f6 (several times, maybe 3) to get back to the document, where the first result is focused
* to go to next / previous search result: hit f6, the focus will jump to the navigation toolbar, from there click previous / next search result
* again, use f6, several times, as needed, to get back to the document where the search result is focused



I don't know the shortcuts for previous / next search result, sorry!

hope that helps!



On Fri, 9 Sep 2016 at 01:11 kelby carlson <kelbycarlson@gmail.com> wrote:

This is something that's pretty important for me to be able to do for
work (I suspect that's the case for many here.) If anyone has the
solution I would appreciate it.

On 9/8/16, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
I can confirm that I am not having any luck invoking the NVDA find
via
INS+CTRL+F at this point in time using Windows 10 64-bit home, the
INS+CTRL+latest
build of NVDA - 2016.3, and Microsoft Word 2010.

This has not been the case in the past and I don't think I'm doing
anything differently than I had been before. I have, regardless of
screen reader, had many instances where I didn't seem to get the
screen reader find with
INS+CTRL+F but generally would on a subsequent try. Not in this
INS+CTRL+case. I
smell a possible bug.
--
Brian

I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's
never enough to keep up.
~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent
Life in the Universe"





Re: Finding in MS Word

Christo de Klerk
 

Hello all

The shortcut key for next search result is ctrl+alt+y. Nice and easy.

Kind regards

Other Christo

On 2016/09/14 9:28 AM, Christo Vorster wrote:
Hi everyone


I used to use ctrl+f for find in Word.


Since I got the advice on search that circulated lately on the list I started using it as it was set out in the list. It works fantastically well.


I don’t think that hitting F6 several times is really the answer, rather use the escape and ctrl+pgdn, as described.


Thanks for all the input from all the listers.


Have a nice day


Christo Vorster (Worcester, South Africa)


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of mohammad suliman
Sent: Friday, 09 September 2016 12:52 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Finding in MS Word


I can confirm this also. Windows 7 and office 2010

here are some tips to work with the find functionality of word 2010:

* hit ctrl + f to go to the search field
* enter the term you wish to search for, and hit enter
* use f6 (several times, maybe 3) to get back to the document, where the first result is focused
* to go to next / previous search result: hit f6, the focus will jump to the navigation toolbar, from there click previous / next search result
* again, use f6, several times, as needed, to get back to the document where the search result is focused


I don't know the shortcuts for previous / next search result, sorry!

hope that helps!


On Fri, 9 Sep 2016 at 01:11 kelby carlson <kelbycarlson@gmail.com> wrote:

This is something that's pretty important for me to be able to do for
work (I suspect that's the case for many here.) If anyone has the
solution I would appreciate it.

On 9/8/16, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
I can confirm that I am not having any luck invoking the NVDA find via
INS+CTRL+F at this point in time using Windows 10 64-bit home, the latest
build of NVDA - 2016.3, and Microsoft Word 2010.

This has not been the case in the past and I don't think I'm doing anything
differently than I had been before. I have, regardless of screen reader,
had many instances where I didn't seem to get the screen reader find with
INS+CTRL+F but generally would on a subsequent try. Not in this case. I
smell a possible bug.
--
Brian

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enough to keep up.
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the Universe"





Re: Microsoft Word with NVDA by NV Access now available

Chris Mullins
 

Your message encouraged me to check this out and it does indeed work as you suggest. After using NVDA+f9 to start mark, the First NVDA+f10 does the end mark and selects the text between the 2 points, then the second f10 press copies it to the clipboard, so the second f10 press is identical to pressing Ctrl+c but you could replace it with ctrl+x if you want to cut the selected text and use ctrl+v to paste it elsewhere.

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of nasrin khaksar
Sent: 14 September 2016 13:53
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft Word with NVDA by NV Access now available

hi Quentin.
thanks so much for your patience and answering our questions in a very good manner.
i have a question about nvda 2016.3 and text selection.
in previous versions, when we press control+f9, we starting mark our selection.
after that, when we press control+f10, our selection is copied to the clipboard.
right?
now, in the new version, as usual, when we use control+f9, we specify our selection.
after finishing our selection, we should control+f10 twice quickly to our selection be copied.
but what happen if we use control+f10 once like previous versions?
for example: if we use it once, is it possible to use windows regular commands like control+x control+c and control+v?
thanks for your help and God bless you!

On 9/14/16, Cearbhall O'Meadhra <cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie> wrote:
Quentin,



You say that the copy selection (F10 twice) should only move the caret
if certain objects are in focus. What does this mean?



I have tried the F9 and double F10 sequence with NVDA+6 set to "caret
moves review cursor " "on" and "off" alternately, but the double F10
always moves the caret to the copied text. To be sure that I am making
myself clear: in the sample, when I double click F10 to copy "Bert", I
find the caret has jumped from the last line where I removed "Brown"
to the immediate right edge of the word Bert" on the top line.



How can I get the caret to stay in place and not move up?



All the best,



Cearbhall



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Quentin Christensen
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 1:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft Word with NVDA by NV Access now
available



Cearbhall,



Well picked up! Yes that behaviour of the review cursor has changed
just this week in NVDA 2016.3, and as you've reminded me, we need to
update that sample section of the Basic Training for NVDA module.



Pressing NVDA+f10 twice (quickly) should copy the selection to the
clipboard. Depending on the type of object that has focus, selecting
the text (the first press) may move the focus you are right, but it
should copy if you press NVDA+f10 twice quickly - within say a second
or less - similar to pressing NVDA+f12 twice quickly to get the date,
or pressing any of the reading commands twice to spell something.



Kind regards



Quentin.



On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 9:52 PM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra
<cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie <mailto:cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie> > wrote:

Quentin,



I was trying out the free sample on the web page.



I am not fully familiar with the review cursor and so I tried to
follow the sample exercise. as I am a bit confused about the copying
stroke. The manual says insert+F9 to start the mark and then one
keystroke of insert
F10
to copy it. However, NVDA keyboard help says that NVDA F10 should be
pressed twice to copy the sleection. I also found that after pressing
insert F10 twice, the caret moved to the position of the word being
copied and moved away from the last line position where it was
expected to be.



I have repeated this several times with both a single insert+F10 and a
double insert+F10 and I cannot get it to work. Any advice?



All the best,



Cearbhall



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<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin
Christensen
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 8:14 AM
To: <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Microsoft Word with NVDA by NV Access now available



NV Access is very pleased to announce the release of "Microsoft Word
with NVDA", the official training material for Microsoft Word with
NVDA. It covers concepts from getting started with Word through to use
of advanced features such as customising the status ribbon and running macros.

Available from:
<http://www.nvaccess.org/product/microsoft-word-training-for-nvda/>
http://www.nvaccess.org/product/microsoft-word-training-for-nvda/
initially in eBook formats (Braille and audio to follow) for AUD $30
(+ $3 GST in Australia).



Microsoft Word with NVDA is the second module in the official set of
training materials for learning to use the free NVDA screen reader.
Suitable
for the new and existing user of Microsoft Word wishing to improve
proficiency. This module assumes that the user has completed the
"Basic Training for NVDA" module, or has equivalent knowledge.

Topics covered include: Getting started with Microsoft Word,
proofreading, styles, tables, page layout, referencing, inserting,
collaboration and sharing and customising Word options. Formats included in this package:
ePub, HTML, Word Docx and Mobi (Kindle).

The purchase price of this product supports the work of NV Access and
our ability to provide the NVDA screen reading software free of charge.

If you would like to sample the style of the material prior to
purchasing, we have made an extract of the Basic Training for NVDA
module freely available on our website, <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
http://www.nvaccess.org/.



--

Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer

Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/



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Direct: <tel:%2B61%20413%20904%20383> +61 413 904 383
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Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/



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Direct: +61 413 904 383
<http://www.nvaccess.org/> www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: <http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess>
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Twitter: @NVAccess




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Re: Microsoft Word with NVDA by NV Access now available

 

hi Quentin.
thanks so much for your patience and answering our questions in a very
good manner.
i have a question about nvda 2016.3 and text selection.
in previous versions, when we press control+f9, we starting mark our selection.
after that, when we press control+f10, our selection is copied to the clipboard.
right?
now, in the new version, as usual, when we use control+f9, we specify
our selection.
after finishing our selection, we should control+f10 twice quickly to
our selection be copied.
but what happen if we use control+f10 once like previous versions?
for example: if we use it once, is it possible to use windows regular
commands like control+x control+c and control+v?
thanks for your help and God bless you!

On 9/14/16, Cearbhall O'Meadhra <cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie> wrote:
Quentin,



You say that the copy selection (F10 twice) should only move the caret if
certain objects are in focus. What does this mean?



I have tried the F9 and double F10 sequence with NVDA+6 set to "caret
moves
review cursor " "on" and "off" alternately, but the double F10 always moves
the caret to the copied text. To be sure that I am making myself clear: in
the sample, when I double click F10 to copy "Bert", I find the caret has
jumped from the last line where I removed "Brown" to the immediate right
edge of the word Bert" on the top line.



How can I get the caret to stay in place and not move up?



All the best,



Cearbhall



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Christensen
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 1:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft Word with NVDA by NV Access now available



Cearbhall,



Well picked up! Yes that behaviour of the review cursor has changed just
this week in NVDA 2016.3, and as you've reminded me, we need to update that
sample section of the Basic Training for NVDA module.



Pressing NVDA+f10 twice (quickly) should copy the selection to the
clipboard. Depending on the type of object that has focus, selecting the
text (the first press) may move the focus you are right, but it should copy
if you press NVDA+f10 twice quickly - within say a second or less - similar
to pressing NVDA+f12 twice quickly to get the date, or pressing any of the
reading commands twice to spell something.



Kind regards



Quentin.



On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 9:52 PM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra
<cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie <mailto:cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie> > wrote:

Quentin,



I was trying out the free sample on the web page.



I am not fully familiar with the review cursor and so I tried to follow the
sample exercise. as I am a bit confused about the copying stroke. The
manual says insert+F9 to start the mark and then one keystroke of insert
F10
to copy it. However, NVDA keyboard help says that NVDA F10 should be
pressed
twice to copy the sleection. I also found that after pressing insert F10
twice, the caret moved to the position of the word being copied and moved
away from the last line position where it was expected to be.



I have repeated this several times with both a single insert+F10 and a
double insert+F10 and I cannot get it to work. Any advice?



All the best,



Cearbhall



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<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin
Christensen
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 8:14 AM
To: <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Microsoft Word with NVDA by NV Access now available



NV Access is very pleased to announce the release of "Microsoft Word with
NVDA", the official training material for Microsoft Word with NVDA. It
covers concepts from getting started with Word through to use of advanced
features such as customising the status ribbon and running macros.

Available from:
<http://www.nvaccess.org/product/microsoft-word-training-for-nvda/>
http://www.nvaccess.org/product/microsoft-word-training-for-nvda/ initially
in eBook formats (Braille and audio to follow) for AUD $30 (+ $3 GST in
Australia).



Microsoft Word with NVDA is the second module in the official set of
training materials for learning to use the free NVDA screen reader.
Suitable
for the new and existing user of Microsoft Word wishing to improve
proficiency. This module assumes that the user has completed the "Basic
Training for NVDA" module, or has equivalent knowledge.

Topics covered include: Getting started with Microsoft Word, proofreading,
styles, tables, page layout, referencing, inserting, collaboration and
sharing and customising Word options. Formats included in this package:
ePub, HTML, Word Docx and Mobi (Kindle).

The purchase price of this product supports the work of NV Access and our
ability to provide the NVDA screen reading software free of charge.

If you would like to sample the style of the material prior to purchasing,
we have made an extract of the Basic Training for NVDA module freely
available on our website, <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
http://www.nvaccess.org/.



--

Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer

Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/



Ph <tel:%2B61%207%203149%203306> +61 7 3149 3306

Direct: <tel:%2B61%20413%20904%20383> +61 413 904 383
<http://www.nvaccess.org/> www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: <http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess>
http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess







--

Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer

Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/



Ph <tel:%2B61%207%203149%203306> +61 7 3149 3306

Direct: +61 413 904 383
<http://www.nvaccess.org/> www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: <http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess>
http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess



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Re: Microsoft Word with NVDA by NV Access now available

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Quentin,

 

You say that the copy selection (F10 twice) should only move the caret if certain objects are in focus. What does this mean?

 

I have tried the F9 and double F10 sequence  with NVDA+6 set to “caret moves review cursor “ “on” and “off” alternately, but the double F10 always moves the caret to the copied text. To be sure that I am making myself clear: in the sample, when I double click F10 to copy “Bert”, I find the caret has jumped from the last line where I removed “Brown” to the immediate right edge of the word Bert” on the top line.

 

How can I get the caret to stay in place and not move up?

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 1:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft Word with NVDA by NV Access now available

 

Cearbhall,

 

Well picked up!  Yes that behaviour of the review cursor has changed just this week in NVDA 2016.3, and as you've reminded me, we need to update that sample section of the Basic Training for NVDA module.

 

Pressing NVDA+f10 twice (quickly) should copy the selection to the clipboard.  Depending on the type of object that has focus, selecting the text (the first press) may move the focus you are right, but it should copy if you press NVDA+f10 twice quickly - within say a second or less - similar to pressing NVDA+f12 twice quickly to get the date, or pressing any of the reading commands twice to spell something.

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 9:52 PM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra <cearbhall.omeadhra@...> wrote:

Quentin,

 

I was trying out the free sample on the web page.

 

I am not fully familiar with the review cursor and so I tried to follow the sample exercise.  as I am a bit confused about the copying stroke. The manual says insert+F9 to start the mark and then one keystroke of insert F10 to copy it. However, NVDA keyboard help says that NVDA F10 should be pressed twice to copy the sleection. I also found that after pressing insert F10 twice, the caret  moved to the position of the word being copied and moved away from the last line position where it was expected to be.

 

I have repeated this several times with both a single insert+F10 and a double insert+F10 and I cannot get it to work.  Any advice?

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 8:14 AM
To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Microsoft Word with NVDA by NV Access now available

 

NV Access is very pleased to announce the release of "Microsoft Word with NVDA", the official training material for Microsoft Word with NVDA. It covers concepts from getting started with Word through to use of advanced features such as customising the status ribbon and running macros.

Available from: http://www.nvaccess.org/product/microsoft-word-training-for-nvda/ initially in eBook formats (Braille and audio to follow) for AUD $30 (+ $3 GST in Australia).

 

Microsoft Word with NVDA is the second module in the official set of training materials for learning to use the free NVDA screen reader. Suitable for the new and existing user of Microsoft Word wishing to improve proficiency. This module assumes that the user has completed the “Basic Training for NVDA” module, or has equivalent knowledge.

Topics covered include: Getting started with Microsoft Word, proofreading, styles, tables, page layout, referencing, inserting, collaboration and sharing and customising Word options. Formats included in this package: ePub, HTML, Word Docx and Mobi (Kindle).

The purchase price of this product supports the work of NV Access and our ability to provide the NVDA screen reading software free of charge.

If you would like to sample the style of the material prior to purchasing, we have made an extract of the Basic Training for NVDA module freely available on our website, http://www.nvaccess.org/.

 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer

Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: 
http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 



 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer

Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: 
http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: Microsoft Word with NVDA by NV Access now available

Mallard
 

Ciao Quentin,


No trouble at all. Coupon entered, book downloaded. I'm about to unzip the file and start reading.

I don't have MS Word; I use LibreOffice, but I want to collect all the NVDA ebooks to help friends when needed.


It would be nice to have some documentation about NVDA with LibreOffice, although I realise there are still accessibility issues in that suite.

They're not particularly responsive; I had a chance to participate in one of their conferences here in Milan, and there were a lot of nice words concerning accessibility and their commitment, but I have experienced otherwise whenever I have tried to contact them on this subject...

Let's hope forthe future...


Ciao, and thanks again.

Ollie

Il 14/09/2016 11:06, Quentin Christensen ha scritto:
Excellent, let us know if you have any trouble with the coupon!

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 6:49 PM, Mallard <mallard@kimabe.eu <mailto:mallard@kimabe.eu>> wrote:

Thanks Quentin,

It's been sorted out. I got a coupon, which I'm giong to use right
now.

Take care, ciao,

Ollie





Il 14/09/2016 01:04, Quentin Christensen ha scritto:

Hi Ollie,

I'm sure that will be fine, let me chase it up for you :)

Regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 2:35 AM, Mallard <mallard@kimabe.eu
<mailto:mallard@kimabe.eu> <mailto:mallard@kimabe.eu
<mailto:mallard@kimabe.eu>>> wrote:

Hello Quentin,


I tried to buy this ebook, but I made a stupid mistake and
went
and re-bought the Basic Training ebook, whichI already have.


I wrote to Admin but, of course, you people "down under" are
sleeping now...

Do you think it would be possible to change the download link,
which I haven't used, and send me one for the Microsoft
Word ebook?


I'm a well-known "messer-upper", so please, bear with
me... lol


Ciao, and thanks for your great work.

Ollie








--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Ph +61 7 3149 3306 <tel:%2B61%207%203149%203306>
<tel:%2B61%207%203149%203306>
Direct: +61 413 904 383 <tel:%2B61%20413%20904%20383>
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<http://www.nvaccess.org/>
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<http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess>
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--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Ph +61 7 3149 3306 <tel:%2B61%207%203149%203306>
Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
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Twitter: @NVAccess


Re: Microsoft Word with NVDA by NV Access now available

Quentin Christensen
 

Excellent, let us know if you have any trouble with the coupon!

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 6:49 PM, Mallard <mallard@...> wrote:
Thanks Quentin,

It's been sorted out. I got a coupon, which I'm giong to use right now.

Take care, ciao,

Ollie





Il 14/09/2016 01:04, Quentin Christensen ha scritto:
Hi Ollie,

I'm sure that will be fine, let me chase it up for you :)

Regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 2:35 AM, Mallard <mallard@... <mailto:mallard@...>> wrote:

    Hello Quentin,


    I tried to buy this ebook, but I made a stupid mistake and went
    and re-bought the Basic Training ebook, whichI already have.


    I wrote to Admin but, of course, you people "down under" are
    sleeping now...

    Do you think it would be possible to change the download link,
    which I haven't used, and send me one for the Microsoft Word ebook?


    I'm a well-known "messer-upper", so please, bear with me... lol


    Ciao, and thanks for your great work.

    Ollie








--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Ph +61 7 3149 3306 <tel:%2B61%207%203149%203306>
Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess








--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess