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Re: NVDA does not read the context menu in the Edge browser

 

This may be an Edge error, or it could be an NVDA error.

I just tried this and while SHIFT+F10 definitely brings up the context menu when NVDA is running, focus does not shift to it, but remains on the page in Edge itself.  This is not the case when NVDA is off.  If I do SHIFT+F10 without NVDA running, and hit either up or down arrow, I am traversing the context menu.

It's not clear to me if this is an NVDA bug or an Edge bug.  But since you say you get the same misbehavior with Narrator, I suspect that something is not being exposed to the screen reader by Edge that should be that allows the screen reader to have focus set in the Context Menu when it appears.  I don't have JAWS on this machine, or I'd try a quick test with it.  I suspect the same issue would present itself, which would really point the finger at Edge (or something in Windows that Edge depends upon for context menu presentation).
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NVDA does not read the context menu in the Edge browser

Brian Sackrider
 

When I press shift 10 in the edge brouser to actavate the context menu it does not read it and I am not able to down arrow through the menu.  I have tried to do this with brouse mode both on and off.  I have also tried narator and I got the same results.  I have called the microsoft accessability answer desk and my case has been escelated.  When they remoted my pc using quick assist they were able to open the context menu and down arrow through it.  My sighted friend tried to open the context menu in edge with no screen reader turned on and he was able to open the context menu and down arrow through it.  I only have this issue with the edge brouser and not with any other brouser.  If I use ie chrome or fire fox I am able to open the context menu and down arrow through it.  It's seems that edge is not recignizing the shift 10 command.  Could it be a problem with the ui not being programed to recignize this command?  Microsoft does need to fix this problem before they turn off ie for good.

Brian Sackrider


locked Re: IBM tts driver eliquence add on nvda 2021.

Josh Kennedy
 

You can also use the old completely free IBM-TTS with NVDA. the sapi4 one and there is a driver for it on github. also on github is a sapi5 interface for the old sapi4 IBM-tts. 


Re: Code factory Eloquence

Josh Kennedy
 

ok so first you will need 7zip to unzip these .jar files. you can get it from www.ninite.com ... Now the free public ftp site to get IBM viavoice is located at:

ftp.software.ibm.com/software/websphere/voicetoolkit/InstallShield/VT6.0TP/Languages/TTS/win

and the website to get the IBM tts NVDA addon is at:

https://github.com/davidacm/NVDA-IBMTTS-Driver

and lastly the website for an open source sapi5 driver for IBM-tts is at:

https://github.com/datajake1999/SAPI5IBMTTS


beta3 doesn't read the conversation messages in focus mode on firefox

Alexandre Alves Toco
 

Hi, in order to test the new beta, I opened whatsapp web in schrome and in firefox.

So I turned on focus mode and use tab to go to conversations's list, arrow keys to select the conversation and tab again to go to messages's list.

In schrome, nvda reads the conversation and the messages using arrow keys.

But, in firefox, it reads only the conversation list.


Re: outlook 365 problems

Pranav Lal
 

Hi Afik,

 

This is not a NVDA problem at all. By default, outlook groups messages by dates. When you arrow through your inbox, you will reach a point in the list of messages which will show you yesterday’s date. Hit right arrow to expand it and then continue arrowing.

 

You can also go to the view settings in the ribbon bar and change the settings for the current view.

 

Pranav


NVDA add-on for Audible Windows app

Blake Roberts
 

Hi,

I am a new member to the NVDA email list. I have been using NVDA for years. Does an NVDA add-on exist to make the Audible for Windows app more useable with NVDA? Presently when I load the Audible app for Windows, NVDA is silent when I tab through the buttons. Someone created scripts for JAWS which makes Audible easier to use with that screen reader. I'm wondering if an NVDA add-on has been created to make Audible program more accessible when I use it with NVDA. I searched the NVDA add-ons repository and am not finding what I seek. Any help would be appreciated.


Blake Roberts


Re: outlook 365 problems

Dave Grossoehme
 

Good Day:  This could be coming from the windows view setting.  It could be shoing your messages by date.  I don't have Outlook, so, I can't give exact details.  However, you need to go into the view menu of outlook and arrow down to select none.

Dave


On 6/18/2021 3:07 AM, Afik Souffir wrote:

Now I'm getting emails, but its keeps saying date: today. Or date: yesterday.

Like that.

Forgot how to turn it off.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2021 10:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] outlook 365 problems

 

Well I have just checked and recieved an out of band windows update services update, as well as office updates.

There wasn't an update expected today, so its an out of band update most certainly.

 

 

On 18/06/2021 7:06 pm, Vaibhav Saraf wrote:

Hi Afik,

 

It looks to be an Office problem over NVDA problem.

 

For the first issue I am not sure if you are not able to see any mail in the inbox or just the latest ones. If it's just the latest ones then it can very well be some account sync issue. Outlook does a lot of downloads when it is installed new, you might like to wait a bit and allow it to download the chunk before it settles.

 

For the second issue, you can change the sorting order of mails. By default it is by date, if you reach the inbox table you can shift tab to reach the sort and filter and select the relevant criteria.

 

Thanks,

Vaibhav

 

 

 

 

On Fri, 18 Jun 2021 at 12:19, Afik Souffir <afik.souffir@...> wrote:

 

Hi

I installed office 365 after reseting my laptop, and things are getting crazy at the view.

First of all I don't get to my inbox emails from yesterday, and I can see in my outlook app in my phone a lot of emails from yesterday and today.

Second, it's showing me the emails by date, not like before, at chronological order.

 

Any help will be appreciated.

 

Afik.

 


Re: forgot - help in mail for windows10 and NVDA

Afik Souffir <afik.souffir@...>
 

Thanks! I've tried without the message open.

 

 

נשלח מהאפליקציה 'דואר' עבור Windows 10

 

מאת: Chris Mullins
נשלח: יום שישי 18 יוני 2021 20:36
אל: nvda@nvda.groups.io
נושא:
Re: [nvda] forgot - help in mail for windows10 and NVDA

 

Hi

From within the open message, use Control+r to reply or Control+f to forward.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Afik Souffir
Sent: 18 June 2021 18:21
To: NVDA Mailing List
Subject: [nvda] forgot - help in mail for windows10 and NVDA

 

 

Hi, just  a quick question.

How do I reply or forward and email in mail for windows10?

 

 

נשלח מהאפליקציה 'דואר' עבור Windows 10

 

 

 


Re: forgot - help in mail for windows10 and NVDA

Chris Mullins
 

Hi

From within the open message, use Control+r to reply or Control+f to forward.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Afik Souffir
Sent: 18 June 2021 18:21
To: NVDA Mailing List
Subject: [nvda] forgot - help in mail for windows10 and NVDA

 

 

Hi, just  a quick question.

How do I reply or forward and email in mail for windows10?

 

 

נשלח מהאפליקציה 'דואר' עבור Windows 10

 

 


forgot - help in mail for windows10 and NVDA

Afik Souffir <afik.souffir@...>
 

 

Hi, just  a quick question.

How do I reply or forward and email in mail for windows10?

 

 

נשלח מהאפליקציה 'דואר' עבור Windows 10

 


Re: outlook 365 problems

 

On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 10:46 AM, Afik Souffir wrote:
There is no show in groups, for some reason. 
-
I gave the one and only command that toggles grouping by date (which is what it sounds like you've got displaying) on and off.  It's been a part of Outlook for longer than I can remember.  I'm using Outlook 2016, but Outlook 365 is built using the 2016 code as its basis, and I sincerely doubt that setting has changed.

If that's not working then do a repair install on Office and try again.  Or figure out exactly how your "arrange by" settings are set up and work from there.
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Re: outlook 365 problems

Afik Souffir <afik.souffir@...>
 

There is no show in groups, for some reason. 


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2021 5:20:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] outlook 365 problems
 
On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 06:07 AM, Afik Souffir wrote:
Forgot how to turn it off.
-
Turn off grouping.

ALT+V,AB,W  (View Ribbon, Arrange By, Show in Groups Toggle)
 
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Re: Code factory Eloquence

Sarah k Alawami
 

Yeah, I also use the IBM TTS voice. google for it as I will not post it here, it is fast, responsive, and with 70 percent with rateboost on, it works fine, better than I expected actually. I don't use it much at 70 with rb on, as that will cause a headache but when I need it it works well.

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On 17 Jun 2021, at 10:09, Monte Single wrote:

Gene,

 

As I said earlier, more than 200 words per minute and I want to slow it down,  I’ve tried many voices with several synthysiers  over the years and about 170 words per minute is my comfort zone.

No,  I’ll never win the listening race!

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: June 17, 2021 10:30 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Code factory Eloquence

 

I don’t know if any of the newer kind of synthesizers don’t have these faults.  I can’t comment on the default voices in Windows 10.   I’ve heard some of the newer kinds of synthesizers and the ones I’ve heard slur words, have odd inflections, and mispronounce more words than Eloquence.  They either all or almost all become significantly harder to understand at fast speech rates.  There may be certain synthesizers people are using that don’t have some or all of these problems but not the ones I’ve heard.

 

JAWS doesn’t have a pleasant voice like the newer synthesizers generally do, but I’d far rather be able to easily understand Eloquence at 350 words per minute.  I can actually understand it faster, but about 350 words per minute is about the highest speed I can comfortably comprehend what is being said. 

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2021 11:13 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Code factory Eloquence

 

Hi List,

 

I am not an eloquence user.  Is this the default voice  for jaws.

If so, I fail to see why people are willing to pay for a product that is such a  pain.

What is the attraction?

Is there something special about eloquence with nvda?

 

Cheers,

 

Monte

 

P s  Zara works just fine for me.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: June 17, 2021 9:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Code factory Eloquence

 

what is worse is that until you can get a different speech working you can't do anything because no matter what key you press you get that message and nothing else.

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2021 7:08 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Code factory Eloquence

 

I think I know the cause but I don’t know how it is solved.  I think that either the program isn’t communicating with the product manufacturer for recertification, as it does from time to time, or something is corrupted in the company records and the information being sent isn’t recognized. 

 

We’ll see  how others have solved the problem. 

 

I consider this to be a drawback in the product.  Why should it have to repeatedly be verified by sending information back to the manufacturer?  Screen-readers don’t do this, once they are activated, they stay activated.  If, for some unexpected reason, you are not online when activation is required, you will lose access to speech from the product.  I mean circumstances where you want to use the computer but you don’t have an Internet connection available.  I expect that normally, when you are once again online, activation automatically takes place.  But it should not be assumed that the user will always be on line when using the product.

 

Perhaps those who use the product should really start a campaign to let the manufacturer know that this is not something people are willing to accept any longer.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2021 7:54 AM

Subject: [nvda] Code factory Eloquence

 

What would cause the "please register this product) to pop up over night? There has been no major change in the system. It was running just fine at 2am this morning.

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Re: outlook 365 problems

 

On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 06:07 AM, Afik Souffir wrote:
Forgot how to turn it off.
-
Turn off grouping.

ALT+V,AB,W  (View Ribbon, Arrange By, Show in Groups Toggle)
 
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I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: Code factory Eloquence

 

Well, I never actually try measuring the duration of those pauses, just that I felt that the way that Codefactory Eloquence reads the time with a pause between the hour and the minute is kind of strange, given that this does not happen with other synths I've tried.


Re: free video editing program which works with nvda

William
 

I have already given a suggestion in previous similar post.

Which is, I suggest using something like ffmpeg, a command line tools.

As the editing process are all done in command line, i.e. as long as thecommand line program is accessible, the editing processible is accessible.

Although, you may need to learn about how to write those ffmpeg codes.

zahra 於 17/6/2021 2:19 寫道:

hello every one.
my friend uses the latest version of nvda,
and she needs one accessible and free program to use with nvda to
delete unnecessary parts of video files.


Re: Code factory Eloquence

Gene
 

There is evidently a way to code so the problem doesn’t occur and certain implementations do so.  But I think the important point you raised is ;pauses after periods.  Are you saying that you experienced pauses of longer than about a quarter second between sentences? 
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2021 7:22 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Code factory Eloquence
 
I just gave the addon a try and the time announcement problem is still there, especially when I set the time display to (as of the time I tried it) "It's 19:12".
In fact I just did further testing just now and it seems that Eloquence from Codefactory seems to pause everytime it encounters a colon, including for time announcements (Codefactory Vocalizer pauses upon encounter with a colon too, but not for time announcements).


Re: Code factory Eloquence

 

I just gave the addon a try and the time announcement problem is still there, especially when I set the time display to (as of the time I tried it) "It's 19:12".
In fact I just did further testing just now and it seems that Eloquence from Codefactory seems to pause everytime it encounters a colon, including for time announcements (Codefactory Vocalizer pauses upon encounter with a colon too, but not for time announcements).


Re: Code factory Eloquence

Gene
 

Its called clock and calendar add-on.  You can read about it and get it here:
 
There is a development version you may have to get since I doubt the stable version works with the NVDA beta.
You’ll have to see if the development version does.
 
Gene
 

Sent: Friday, June 18, 2021 6:54 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Code factory Eloquence
 
What is the addon called? I might actually give it a try...

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