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Re: NVDA Remote - Frequent disconnects and freezing

 

What about your friend?

Is he direct to?

To test connection.

https://install.speedtest.net/app/cli/ookla-speedtest-1.0.0-win64.zip

or

https://install.speedtest.net/app/cli/ookla-speedtest-1.0.0-win32.zip


Extract the file, and from a command prompt do the following.

1. navigate to the directory your speedtest is in this is usually my downloads folder.

Command prompt usually starts in your user folder so cd .\downloads

then type

speedtest -p n

where p is progress output and n is none.

Final download and upload speed should be the same as your net connection is.

So for example mine is a 25mmb up and 100mb plan down so 100-104-108mb down by between 19.00-20.00 if on wireless to 25.00 up.

Your jitter and latency time should be low and your packet loss should be 0.

If you are rural you may only have 20mb down 10 mb up or if in a really remote location between 5-3-1mb down and anything from 0.7mb up to 3 or so up maybe.

Your friend needs to do the same.

Does this happen with anything else.

If you have fibre this should all work.

If its outside like some of my stuff is then there isn't much you can do about fixing it.

On 21/06/2021 12:49 pm, Robert Doc Wright godfearer wrote:
I go direct. Only my iPhone and iPad and Echo devices use wi-fi.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2021 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA remote


Well dodgy net connections could be this issue.
Overloaded lines etc.
Even though I have fibre, these days especially the net is really used.
Sometimes my echo responces take 20 seconds to come accross.
Data can take some time to get from place to place.
I have had a few things like that.
I am still getting the data at the right speed but its all from outside.
I suspect because of covid among other things the international
networks are just getting used.
So much of the net depends on cloud infrastructure well.
If thats not the case either of you could be using wrong channels for wireless.
You can get an idea of what everyone uses with something like
wifiinfoview from nersoft.
You will have to change your channels on your router yourself, they
are all different.
Then there is the placement of wireless hardware.
I have laptops and so do others I remote for.
Laptops are fine, but if you have a desktop and use a standard
internal card, depending  where the unit is or even where the card is
you can get poor quality.
On a desktop I used the unit was close but under a desk under the user
the wireless card was at the bottem of the case and that was enough to
really play havoc with audio.
The user changed to a usb dongle placed on top of the same unit and
there was no issue after that.
If you do not use fibre, the same thing could apply with cable.
If you still use copper then they are not as strong as fibre, I used
to get noisy lines and broken connections needing someone to fix more
often than I would care for.
When I got the latest one 2 years back the isp simply switched me to
fibre and I got a better plan and that be it.
If you happen to use mobile wireless broadband signals and congestion
can vary widely.

On 21/06/2021, Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@comcast.net> wrote:
    What would cause the addon to frequently disconnect? it is fine on my pc
to laptop. I was working with a friend in Kentucky and we worked for over
three hours because it kept disconnecting.Sometimes it would freeze if I
stopped to speak to the client about something. I say freeze because it did
not give the disconnect tone but I still could not do anything from my end
but the client still had access.
*********
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Re: BRAILLE OUTPUT TABLE

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Richard,

NVDA uses LibLouis for its braille tables.  I did find this issue on the LIbLous GitHub page mentioning plus signs in the UK tables.  The issue is open and I'm not 100% clear if the issue is the same as yours, but it might be worth you commenting on it to ensure the problem is documented or clarified: https://github.com/liblouis/liblouis/issues/972

If you're not familiar with GitHub, it is a website where open source projects like NVDA and LibLouis can store their code, track issues (which might be bugs, such as this one, or suggestions for new features), and where people can submit ideas or code updates.

NVDA also has a GitHub repository, and you can find our issues here: https://github.com/liblouis/liblouis/issues/972

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Sun, Jun 20, 2021 at 3:26 AM Richard Bartholomew <rlbart53@...> wrote:

Hi,

 

Using NVDA 2020.4, I’ve just switched over to the UK 8-dot computer code Braille table and notice that the plus sign is being displayed as dots 2,3,6 rather than 2,3,5.  Dots 2,3,6 depict the less than sign and this is correctly being shown for < as well as the one in error!

 

What do I do, please, to get this error fixed?

 

Regards

Richard Bartholomew

 

 



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Re: NVDA Remote - Frequent disconnects and freezing

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

I go direct. Only my iPhone and iPad and Echo devices use wi-fi.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2021 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA remote


Well dodgy net connections could be this issue.
Overloaded lines etc.
Even though I have fibre, these days especially the net is really used.
Sometimes my echo responces take 20 seconds to come accross.
Data can take some time to get from place to place.
I have had a few things like that.
I am still getting the data at the right speed but its all from outside.
I suspect because of covid among other things the international
networks are just getting used.
So much of the net depends on cloud infrastructure well.
If thats not the case either of you could be using wrong channels for wireless.
You can get an idea of what everyone uses with something like
wifiinfoview from nersoft.
You will have to change your channels on your router yourself, they
are all different.
Then there is the placement of wireless hardware.
I have laptops and so do others I remote for.
Laptops are fine, but if you have a desktop and use a standard
internal card, depending where the unit is or even where the card is
you can get poor quality.
On a desktop I used the unit was close but under a desk under the user
the wireless card was at the bottem of the case and that was enough to
really play havoc with audio.
The user changed to a usb dongle placed on top of the same unit and
there was no issue after that.
If you do not use fibre, the same thing could apply with cable.
If you still use copper then they are not as strong as fibre, I used
to get noisy lines and broken connections needing someone to fix more
often than I would care for.
When I got the latest one 2 years back the isp simply switched me to
fibre and I got a better plan and that be it.
If you happen to use mobile wireless broadband signals and congestion
can vary widely.

On 21/06/2021, Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@comcast.net> wrote:
What would cause the addon to frequently disconnect? it is fine on my pc
to laptop. I was working with a friend in Kentucky and we worked for over
three hours because it kept disconnecting.Sometimes it would freeze if I
stopped to speak to the client about something. I say freeze because it did
not give the disconnect tone but I still could not do anything from my end
but the client still had access.
*********
family Times weekly Movie times


go to Doc's Stream
http://stream.wrighthere.net:8000/stream.mp3
Ask Miss A to play family times on tuneIn
You can also find family times on OoTunes.

Get the stream guide:
http://www.wrighthere.net/FamilyTimes/playingnow.html
********


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Re: Question about using the elements list on a page with a large quantity of information

Crayton Benner <craybay3198@...>
 

No. Not in particular. 

On Jun 20, 2021, at 18:19, Louise Pfau <lpfau@...> wrote:

Hi.  I was trying to browse through the list of authors under W on Project Gutenburg using the NVDA 2020.4 elements list, and it didn’t announce that it was open.  I don’t know if this is because it was trying to process a large quantity of information.  This might happen on other websites, so the subject line wasn’t specific to 1 website.  I googled Project Gutenburg, since the shortcut I had in my favourites was out-of-date.  Has anyone else come across something like this with other sites?
 
Thanks,
 
Louise


Re: NVDA Remote - Frequent disconnects and freezing

 

Well dodgy net connections could be this issue.
Overloaded lines etc.
Even though I have fibre, these days especially the net is really used.
Sometimes my echo responces take 20 seconds to come accross.
Data can take some time to get from place to place.
I have had a few things like that.
I am still getting the data at the right speed but its all from outside.
I suspect because of covid among other things the international
networks are just getting used.
So much of the net depends on cloud infrastructure well.
If thats not the case either of you could be using wrong channels for wireless.
You can get an idea of what everyone uses with something like
wifiinfoview from nersoft.
You will have to change your channels on your router yourself, they
are all different.
Then there is the placement of wireless hardware.
I have laptops and so do others I remote for.
Laptops are fine, but if you have a desktop and use a standard
internal card, depending where the unit is or even where the card is
you can get poor quality.
On a desktop I used the unit was close but under a desk under the user
the wireless card was at the bottem of the case and that was enough to
really play havoc with audio.
The user changed to a usb dongle placed on top of the same unit and
there was no issue after that.
If you do not use fibre, the same thing could apply with cable.
If you still use copper then they are not as strong as fibre, I used
to get noisy lines and broken connections needing someone to fix more
often than I would care for.
When I got the latest one 2 years back the isp simply switched me to
fibre and I got a better plan and that be it.
If you happen to use mobile wireless broadband signals and congestion
can vary widely.

On 21/06/2021, Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@comcast.net> wrote:
What would cause the addon to frequently disconnect? it is fine on my pc
to laptop. I was working with a friend in Kentucky and we worked for over
three hours because it kept disconnecting.Sometimes it would freeze if I
stopped to speak to the client about something. I say freeze because it did
not give the disconnect tone but I still could not do anything from my end
but the client still had access.
*********
family Times weekly Movie times


go to Doc's Stream
http://stream.wrighthere.net:8000/stream.mp3
Ask Miss A to play family times on tuneIn
You can also find family times on OoTunes.

Get the stream guide:
http://www.wrighthere.net/FamilyTimes/playingnow.html
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Re: NVDA Remote - Frequent disconnects and freezing

 

I have retitled this topic for archival purposes and clarity.  We've had, over time NVDA Remote topics coming out our ears, so a more specific title than "NVDA Remote," that includes something about the issue/question is really necessary now.

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I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


NVDA Remote - Frequent disconnects and freezing

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

    What would cause the addon to frequently disconnect? it is fine on my pc to laptop. I was working with a friend in Kentucky and we worked for over three hours because it kept disconnecting.Sometimes it would freeze if I stopped to speak to the client about something. I say freeze because it did not give the disconnect tone but I still could not do anything from my end but the client still had access.
*********
family Times weekly Movie times
 

go to Doc's Stream
http://stream.wrighthere.net:8000/stream.mp3
Ask Miss A to play family times on tuneIn
You can also find family times on OoTunes.
 
 

walking in VictoryI welcome all that are interested in joining our devotionals on Monday thru saturdays at 8am EST. join the devotion channel.
Also, there is a weekly bible study at 8pm EST in the Walking with Jesus channel.
 

Add the following information in your TeamTalk
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entry name: walking in Victory
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Re: Websites that determine where NVDA starts at

Jonathan COHN
 

Does the Frontier Airlines sit'e do this? I spent a bit of time yesterday trying to figure out why that site behaves so badly on a Mac with Safari. Though I have to say it worked much better with Firefox on the Mac which is weird since 6 months ago one could not use Firefox with Voiceover. 


On Jun 20, 2021, at 9:47 AM, Giles Turnbull <giles.turnbull@...> wrote:

Hi all, I apologise for the rather clunky and undescriptive subject line!

I have found several websites shift the NVDA cursor to the website's privacy settings link when the page loads. I experience this most with the Sainsbury's supermarket website.  after I have searched for an item and added it to my basket, when I return to the search page, NVDA gets repositioned to the Heding 3 that is We value your privacy, which is right at the bottom of the webpage, with only the Cookie Settings links below it. Of course it's easy to press CTRL+Home to jump straight back up to the top of the webpage, but I find it a pain when I have to do it thirty times during the course of doing my weekly shop.

I can't remember off the top of my head, which other websites have this behaviour, but it is quite a few. Simple question ... is there any way to stop a website from doing this to NVDA, or any NVDA setting that can stop this happening?

I am using NVDA 2020.4 and it is happening with Firefox 89.0.1 and also in Chrome.

Thanks,

Giles


Question about using the elements list on a page with a large quantity of information

Louise Pfau
 

Hi.  I was trying to browse through the list of authors under W on Project Gutenburg using the NVDA 2020.4 elements list, and it didn’t announce that it was open.  I don’t know if this is because it was trying to process a large quantity of information.  This might happen on other websites, so the subject line wasn’t specific to 1 website.  I googled Project Gutenburg, since the shortcut I had in my favourites was out-of-date.  Has anyone else come across something like this with other sites?
 
Thanks,
 
Louise


Re: Adobe Acrobat Reader DC and Latest NVDA Beta?

 

Well I tried adobe reader 64 bit and access wize, forget it.


The program sure that works.

Open a file and it will load then close itself.

I went back to standard 32 bit and it works.

One thing to note, if you don't want bogged down systems there are syncing things that activate if you sign in.

I don't think there is any extras you gain with the free version unless you want to convert online and there are ways getting round that.

Saying all that, adobe acrobat will actually do a good job of reading properly structured web content inside pdfs so if they are done right actual web pages will be loaded for you to brouse as normal inside the reader which can actually be cool.



On 21/06/2021 3:45 am, Brian Vogel wrote:
Chris,

Then the question becomes:  Is anything misbehaving from a functional standpoint for you, the end user, with NVDA or Acrobat Reader DC?

There are errors that are critical, and errors that are not.  I've had many occasions with betas where a cycle of retries, in very rapid succession, produces exactly what you're experiencing now.  But whatever the error is must not be critical, because I can continue along just like nothing happened.  Remember that the beta software is "much more vocal" about signaling these sorts of errors than released software is.  You might be able to fire up 2020.4, and check your log, and find precisely the same batch of errors.  Errors have to rise to a certain level of criticality before the production releases will report them to a user.  The beta versions will give you a signal for each and every error logged, regardless of its level of criticality.

But what's been shared is likely to get a couple of sets of review and the issue addressed if need be.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: Websites that determine where NVDA starts at

Chris
 

If this is happening on a lot of sites, it may be the EU’s GDPR cookie consent banner, where you have to either accept or reject cookies to be placed onto your browser, this is for all sites for countries in the EU, including the UK still

 

And it may be that this banner is taking focus after the browser refreshes

 

 

Other than that it appears that the Sainsburys website is working a it should

 

From: Giles Turnbull
Sent: 20 June 2021 14:47
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Websites that determine where NVDA starts at

 

Hi all, I apologise for the rather clunky and undescriptive subject line!

I have found several websites shift the NVDA cursor to the website's privacy settings link when the page loads. I experience this most with the Sainsbury's supermarket website.  after I have searched for an item and added it to my basket, when I return to the search page, NVDA gets repositioned to the Heding 3 that is We value your privacy, which is right at the bottom of the webpage, with only the Cookie Settings links below it. Of course it's easy to press CTRL+Home to jump straight back up to the top of the webpage, but I find it a pain when I have to do it thirty times during the course of doing my weekly shop.

I can't remember off the top of my head, which other websites have this behaviour, but it is quite a few. Simple question ... is there any way to stop a website from doing this to NVDA, or any NVDA setting that can stop this happening?

I am using NVDA 2020.4 and it is happening with Firefox 89.0.1 and also in Chrome.

Thanks,

Giles

 


Re: Adobe Acrobat Reader DC and Latest NVDA Beta?

Chris Smart
 

I should have added that I was still able to open and fill out a form this morning. So, it appears things work properly regardless.


On 2021-06-20 11:45 a.m., Brian Vogel wrote:
Chris,

Then the question becomes:  Is anything misbehaving from a functional standpoint for you, the end user, with NVDA or Acrobat Reader DC?

There are errors that are critical, and errors that are not.  I've had many occasions with betas where a cycle of retries, in very rapid succession, produces exactly what you're experiencing now.  But whatever the error is must not be critical, because I can continue along just like nothing happened.  Remember that the beta software is "much more vocal" about signaling these sorts of errors than released software is.  You might be able to fire up 2020.4, and check your log, and find precisely the same batch of errors.  Errors have to rise to a certain level of criticality before the production releases will report them to a user.  The beta versions will give you a signal for each and every error logged, regardless of its level of criticality.

But what's been shared is likely to get a couple of sets of review and the issue addressed if need be.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: Adobe Acrobat Reader DC and Latest NVDA Beta?

 

Chris,

Then the question becomes:  Is anything misbehaving from a functional standpoint for you, the end user, with NVDA or Acrobat Reader DC?

There are errors that are critical, and errors that are not.  I've had many occasions with betas where a cycle of retries, in very rapid succession, produces exactly what you're experiencing now.  But whatever the error is must not be critical, because I can continue along just like nothing happened.  Remember that the beta software is "much more vocal" about signaling these sorts of errors than released software is.  You might be able to fire up 2020.4, and check your log, and find precisely the same batch of errors.  Errors have to rise to a certain level of criticality before the production releases will report them to a user.  The beta versions will give you a signal for each and every error logged, regardless of its level of criticality.

But what's been shared is likely to get a couple of sets of review and the issue addressed if need be.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: Adobe Acrobat Reader DC and Latest NVDA Beta?

Chris Smart
 

Hi Brian.

After running the tool and rebooting, I re-ran Acrobat and got exactly 22 of the following errors in the NVDA log:

ERROR - RPC process 12592 (AcroRd32.exe) (11:38:51.883) - Dummy-5 (11440):
Thread 12204, build\x86\remote\COMProxyRegistration.cpp, registerCOMProxy, 182:
Unable to register interface IAccessibleHyperlink with proxy stub IAccessible2Proxy.dll, code -2147023156




On 2021-06-20 11:26 a.m., Brian Vogel wrote:
Try running the COM Registration Fixing Tool, then see what happens (or doesn't).
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


locked Re: IBM tts driver eliquence add on nvda 2021.

 

I had hoped, after Quentin's having pointed out that the Code Factory Eloquence add-on is the only one that's legally available, that discussion on the illegal IBM one would stop, but no.

What gets discussed privately and out of sight is none of my business.  But discussion of hacked/cracked/pirated software is expressly forbidden both by the NVDA Group rules and Groups.io Terms of Service.  Please do not revive this topic, in any form, on the group again.

Topic Locked.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: Adobe Acrobat Reader DC and Latest NVDA Beta?

 

Try running the COM Registration Fixing Tool, then see what happens (or doesn't).
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: Websites that determine where NVDA starts at

 

On Sun, Jun 20, 2021 at 10:41 AM, Gene wrote:
If people are discussing a problem on a web site, they should copy the link to the page from the address bar and paste it into the message so we don’t have to search for the site and also so we know we are on the page you are discussing.
-
I don't know how many times this needs to be repeated before the membership finally starts doing it, but I'm repeating it because it is an absolute must, unless such page happens to be behind a login, like a banking page.

It is impossible to give accurate answers with insufficient premises to work on.  And, by the way, that's not a complaint about the title.  It would be hard to come up with a pinpoint description of the issue, but the issue itself was described just fine in the original message.  What's missing is "the exact where," which is what's needed.

Those asking about issues with a specific webpage should put that webpage URL in their first message about said issues.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: Websites that determine where NVDA starts at

Gene
 

Having now found and gone to the home page of the site you mention, I am not moved to the privacy link.  Are you working with the home page?  There is a search field on the page but you don’t tell us which page you are working with.  I don’t know if I am looking at the same page.
 
If people are discussing a problem on a web site, they should copy the link to the page from the address bar and paste it into the message so we don’t have to search for the site and also so we know we are on the page you are discussing.
 
Once we know what page is being discussed, I hope people will see if they have this problem.  We need to see if it is a general problem or a problem you are having for some reason that doesn’t affect others.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2021 8:47 AM
Subject: [nvda] Websites that determine where NVDA starts at
 
Hi all, I apologise for the rather clunky and undescriptive subject line!

I have found several websites shift the NVDA cursor to the website's privacy settings link when the page loads. I experience this most with the Sainsbury's supermarket website.  after I have searched for an item and added it to my basket, when I return to the search page, NVDA gets repositioned to the Heding 3 that is We value your privacy, which is right at the bottom of the webpage, with only the Cookie Settings links below it. Of course it's easy to press CTRL+Home to jump straight back up to the top of the webpage, but I find it a pain when I have to do it thirty times during the course of doing my weekly shop.

I can't remember off the top of my head, which other websites have this behaviour, but it is quite a few. Simple question ... is there any way to stop a website from doing this to NVDA, or any NVDA setting that can stop this happening?

I am using NVDA 2020.4 and it is happening with Firefox 89.0.1 and also in Chrome.

Thanks,

Giles


Re: Websites that determine where NVDA starts at

Gene
 

I doubt it.  this sounds to me like  a misapplication of JAVA script.  when it is used properly to move to a position, it performs tasks like automatically place the user in the search field when on the google search page.  This sounds like some illogical behavior, dreamed up by who knows who for who knows what reason.
 
I wonder what the most efficient way is to deal with the problem.  Are there any add-ons for NVDA that allow you to specify a place on the page you can return to with one command?  it sounds as though you want to return to the edit field.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2021 8:47 AM
Subject: [nvda] Websites that determine where NVDA starts at
 
Hi all, I apologise for the rather clunky and undescriptive subject line!

I have found several websites shift the NVDA cursor to the website's privacy settings link when the page loads. I experience this most with the Sainsbury's supermarket website.  after I have searched for an item and added it to my basket, when I return to the search page, NVDA gets repositioned to the Heding 3 that is We value your privacy, which is right at the bottom of the webpage, with only the Cookie Settings links below it. Of course it's easy to press CTRL+Home to jump straight back up to the top of the webpage, but I find it a pain when I have to do it thirty times during the course of doing my weekly shop.

I can't remember off the top of my head, which other websites have this behaviour, but it is quite a few. Simple question ... is there any way to stop a website from doing this to NVDA, or any NVDA setting that can stop this happening?

I am using NVDA 2020.4 and it is happening with Firefox 89.0.1 and also in Chrome.

Thanks,

Giles


Adobe Acrobat Reader DC and Latest NVDA Beta?

Chris Smart
 

Wow. When I launch Acrobat I hear the NVDA error sound multiple times in quick succession. The log shows many entries like the following:


ERROR - RPC process 10784 (AcroRd32.exe) (10:06:56.088) - Dummy-26 (13792):
Thread 12332, build\x86\remote\COMProxyRegistration.cpp, registerCOMProxy, 182:
Unable to register interface ISimpleDOMDocument with proxy stub ISimpleDOM.dll, code -2147023156

There are dozens of those in my log.


Anyone else have a similar experience?


Chris

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