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locked Re: Windows 11 accessibility

Chris Smart
 

Hmm, is that something that must be adjusted in the bios?



On 2021-06-24 8:36 p.m., Nimer Jaber wrote:
Hello Chris,

That would be very surprising to me. It may be that it is off, but I would be very surprised if it didn't.

On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 5:35 PM Chris Smart <ve3rwj@...> wrote:
My machine is less-than a year old: a Core I7-9700K 8-core processor at
3.6 gHz, 32 GB ram, and does not have this TPM 2.0. I'm not impressed.









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locked Re: Windows 11 accessibility

 

Well yeah I need to agree.

How much will the windows 10 x stuff be to the average user anyway.

Put it this way, not many will be snapping up new systems just to have tpm module support or anything.

I think microsoft needs to tell us what this extra security module will do to and what the risks are if you didn't have it.


I suspect consumers may not even have to worry about it.

Especially if they use a local account.

Since microsoft removed things like the music store, there is nothing for us blinks on it bar a few windows apps and codecs.

Compaired to everyone else apple, google, etc thats pritty lame.

Then they cut down cortana.

So simply that means the only 2 assistants in the running are google and amazon.

The apple system is catching up but only works for apple devices and the other 2 are universal.

My point microsoft aint pushing any favors.

Even if a system like mine has tpm2 installed which I checked, that pc healthcheck obviously does not detect it.

I also agree about the update.

Security is fine but a new interface from windows x does not inspire me a user to upgrade.

Bar some minor things, I don't see this as any step forward.

So now I need to go through an extra step.

Setup, connect to a microsoft account, create a local one, delete my microsoft account or revert because I don't need most of its features, and other stuff.

Its another headake to things.

Then I need to turn all widgets off because they get in the way.

I mean really just give us a working os for once.



On 25/06/2021 6:56 am, JM Casey wrote:

It’s pretty much the least exciting major version change in history (ok, that might be a slight exaggeration). When Windows 10 came around it felt like it was at least somewhat something new and that it was meant to be that – this just feels like yet anotehr Windows 10 update that was braned this way for some reason? Why? Oh Microsoft…

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: June 24, 2021 12:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 11 accessibility

 

On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 12:46 PM, Chris Smart wrote:

Are Microsoft even calling it Windows 11?

=
Yes, what had been known by the code name Sun Valley, and been developed as what had been slated to be Windows 10, Version 20H2, has been officially rebranded as Windows 11 by Microsoft a short while ago.

Note carefully what I said above.  There will be no significant accessibility changes (except for a few possible regression bugs and/or actual improvements to accessibility) in Windows 11 because it is, and always has been, the next feature update.

Why a redesigned UI, and that's the main difference in this release, warrants a rebranding as a whole new Windows version number is anyone's guess, and only the marketing geniuses at Microsoft really know.

But let's not pretend that this is some major version change like 7 to 8 and 8 to 10 were, because it's not.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: NVDA 2021.1 beta 5 error installation

Quentin Christensen
 

Looks like everyone (in this thread at least) got there in the end - apologies for the issues - a bug was inadvertently introduced in Beta 3 which broke updating from within NVDA itself.  This was fixed in Beta 5, but due to the nature of the bug, it meant that you couldn't update from within the affected builds - Beta 3 and Beta 4 - if running either of those builds, as you found - you need to download beta 5 manually from the release announcement: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2021-1beta5/ - run the downloaded file and install via that and it should work fine.

Going forward, updating should now work fine from within NVDA for everyone except anyone running Beta 3 or Beta 4 (and a couple of alpha builds from the same period).

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 7:53 AM hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

Hi


I got the same error  as well. I did download the beta 4 then installed it as requested then went to get beta 5 it downloaded then went to set it up and got that same error.


Ended up just deleting out the files from the portable version and after they were all gone then installed the beta 5 thins seems to have goen back to normal.


ene nz


On 25/06/2021 5:27 am, Ján Kulik wrote:
I don't know what's going on here, but I can't install NVDA 2021.1 beta 5 because:

---------------------------
Error
---------------------------
usage: nvda_noUIAccess.exe [-h] [-q] [-k] [-f LOGFILENAME]
                           [-l {10,12,15,20,30,40,50,100}] [-c CONFIGPATH]
                           [-m] [-s] [--disable-addons] [--debug-logging]
                           [--no-logging] [--no-sr-flag]
                           [--install | --install-silent | --create-portable | --create-portable-silent]
                           [--portable-path PORTABLEPATH] [--launcher]
                           [--enable-start-on-logon True|False]
                           [--copy-portable-config] [--ease-of-access]
 
error: argument -m/--minimal: ignored explicit argument '--log-level=20'
---------------------------
OK

What should I do then?



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Training and Support Manager


locked Re: Windows 11 accessibility

Nimer Jaber
 

Hello Chris,

That would be very surprising to me. It may be that it is off, but I would be very surprised if it didn't.

On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 5:35 PM Chris Smart <ve3rwj@...> wrote:
My machine is less-than a year old: a Core I7-9700K 8-core processor at
3.6 gHz, 32 GB ram, and does not have this TPM 2.0. I'm not impressed.









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locked Re: Windows 11 accessibility

Chris Smart
 

My machine is less-than a year old: a Core I7-9700K 8-core processor at 3.6 gHz, 32 GB ram, and does not have this TPM 2.0. I'm not impressed.


locked Re: Windows 11 accessibility

Nimer Jaber
 

Hello,

Please check out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3s_JTVfOf8 where I talk about Windows 11 and talk about my thoughts on the requirements.

On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 5:26 PM Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:

Maybe but this requirement stinks.

Interestingly device manager says I have tpm2.0, but healthcheck says I am not qualified.

I have a modern amd cpu, I have enough space and memmory so what is its deal?

Maybe by the time things come out I may get a firmware update and get the update after all.

My dad has a really old system but well.

Still.



On 25/06/2021 4:56 am, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 12:46 PM, Chris Smart wrote:
Are Microsoft even calling it Windows 11?
=
Yes, what had been known by the code name Sun Valley, and been developed as what had been slated to be Windows 10, Version 20H2, has been officially rebranded as Windows 11 by Microsoft a short while ago.

Note carefully what I said above.  There will be no significant accessibility changes (except for a few possible regression bugs and/or actual improvements to accessibility) in Windows 11 because it is, and always has been, the next feature update.

Why a redesigned UI, and that's the main difference in this release, warrants a rebranding as a whole new Windows version number is anyone's guess, and only the marketing geniuses at Microsoft really know.

But let's not pretend that this is some major version change like 7 to 8 and 8 to 10 were, because it's not.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 



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locked Re: Windows 11 accessibility

 

Maybe but this requirement stinks.

Interestingly device manager says I have tpm2.0, but healthcheck says I am not qualified.

I have a modern amd cpu, I have enough space and memmory so what is its deal?

Maybe by the time things come out I may get a firmware update and get the update after all.

My dad has a really old system but well.

Still.



On 25/06/2021 4:56 am, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 12:46 PM, Chris Smart wrote:
Are Microsoft even calling it Windows 11?
=
Yes, what had been known by the code name Sun Valley, and been developed as what had been slated to be Windows 10, Version 20H2, has been officially rebranded as Windows 11 by Microsoft a short while ago.

Note carefully what I said above.  There will be no significant accessibility changes (except for a few possible regression bugs and/or actual improvements to accessibility) in Windows 11 because it is, and always has been, the next feature update.

Why a redesigned UI, and that's the main difference in this release, warrants a rebranding as a whole new Windows version number is anyone's guess, and only the marketing geniuses at Microsoft really know.

But let's not pretend that this is some major version change like 7 to 8 and 8 to 10 were, because it's not.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


locked Re: Windows 11 accessibility

 

Well look on chat about the health check.

I don't see anything for the blind in this.

I like the idea of amazon and android support apps because maybe I can play those games I have been missing out on, maybe.

Maybe I can use kindle and maybe I can either replace cortana with google or alexa respectively.

I don't much care for another windows interface especially windows x.

I am allready having to say good bye to some of the control panel settings even though I prefer the simpler control panel interface.

I was hoping microsoft would fix the crashyness of the explorer shell above all.

Windows store and winget was something I wanted to try to see if it would work like apt get in linux ubuntu.

I was hoping for the ability to run whatever desktop I wanted withhin windows so maybe I could stay with a windows 10 style desktop, xp or 7 or other linux desktop maybe.

This new visual interface change doesn't interest me.

I have had to allready turn that annoying news and interests thing off because of its sheer clutteryness on screen.

Yes even though there are some reasons for a microsoft account I like the idea of things staying local and so do some older people like my aunt and my dad.

Thing is there aint much keeping me to a microsoft account.

I don't and will never use onedrive.

I have managed to get a good cheap deal on office though I will be using it mainly for converting documents and not much else.

I don't need any of the extra syncronisation features in a ms account.

With ms going to spotify I will not be needing music.

I have a few apps but most of these are not well accessible or even needed.

The certification would be nice though so far there hasn't been any malware via a universal.

The requirements for tpm is going to cut out a lot of people.

Right now thats all amd units from well 2013 till the present day, maybe amd will have tpm 2 modules to stay in the game now.

So you are cutting all intel i series from gen1 to well gen 5 maybe?

Or is that also going to include generation 6 7 and maybe 8?

So after 6 years, who will bother updating their systems.

My system works.

So do others in my family.

Security sure begrudgingly we will do it.

But I'm not updating for an interface which holds nothing new for me at all!

I doubt any of the others I have will either.


I have serviced friends that have systems from 2010 which are almost broken and old.

But they have little cash to even replace them.

My and my aunt's systems are 2016 units I think mine was either a 2017-2018 model amd system a ryzen 2nd gen but without a tpm.

My aunt is a 7th generation intel.

Really hope microsoft will allow us to continue with 10 for a bit because I don't want to switch everyone to microsoft accounts, I have even forgotten the passwords we use for some of them because we don't use them at all.

Lets hope I can switch back to local again.

And what about when upgrading lets hope thats fine.

I haven't yet seen anything spaciffically about windows 11 from dolphin for testing but assume something is going on with that.

At any rate who has the cash for a new latest intel processer enabled computer with tpm especially now.

Duel drives for me is fine but what does that mean for older systems recycled or whatever.

For 6 mmore years or so well fine.

But after that, well older systems = more crap in landfills because they can't be used because microsoft says so.

Wander how many will move away.

I can't afford to because I have spent a lot of cash on windows and so have others but this is probably one reason I'd concidder switching to something else if there was something else more accessible than windows.

Lets hope microsoft actually soften their stance because right now I can see more issues down the road.

On 25/06/2021 4:25 am, Ali Savas wrote:
Hello all,

Microsoft has finally unveiled Windows 11, which has been awaited by
many technically minded people. As expected, unfortunately not so much
was said about the accessibility of Windows 11, because not so many
people are interested in it. At least I couldn't read anything about it.
However, I can very well imagine that developers of assistive
technologies were informed in advance to already make adjustments to
their products.

Therefore I would be interested in the following:

Are there already experiences from the developers how it looks like with
the accessibility of Windows 11? Has much been done under the hood in
this regard or is it really "just" a beefed up Windows 10?

Personally, I think Windows 11 is a visually improved Windows 10, which
has been populated with some minor features without making any major
changes to the kernel. For this reason, I don't think there are as big
technical changes as for example from Windows XP to Vista/7. I think
Windows 11 is more marketing than anything else.

Thanks in advance and best regards
Ali





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Re: Can NVDA be made to speak when filters are applied to a column?

Pranav Lal
 

Hi Quentin,

 

Thanks I have commented on issue

Excel: announce autofilter status when opening · Issue #6429 · nvaccess/nvda (github.com)

 

Sheesh, its been opened from 2016. This is the sort of challenge one faces with NVDA at work.

 

Pranav

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 7:04 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Can NVDA be made to speak when filters are aplied to a column?

 

Hi Pranav,

 

It's not currently possible, however we have two similar issues for this:

 

and

 

I would recommend commenting on the relevant issue with any additional information you can provide.

 

Quentin.

 

On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 10:40 PM Pranav Lal <pranav@...> wrote:

Hi all,

When I am moving by using the left and right arrows in an Excel worksheet, I
need to know if filters are active and have been applied. This is not
happening. Does NVDA support speaking this?

At work, I use both NVDA and jaws and found this feature of jaws handy.

Pranav






 

--

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Training and Support Manager

 


thorium reader keyboard shortcuts not working with nvda

Aschalew Byness
 

Hi you lovely guys
I am trying to read epub files with thorium reader with nvda. However,
the keyboard shortcuts of thorium are not working for me. Is there
any setting I have to configure to have the shortcuts work with nvda?


Re: NVDA 2021.1 beta 5 error installation

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


I got the same error  as well. I did download the beta 4 then installed it as requested then went to get beta 5 it downloaded then went to set it up and got that same error.


Ended up just deleting out the files from the portable version and after they were all gone then installed the beta 5 thins seems to have goen back to normal.


ene nz


On 25/06/2021 5:27 am, Ján Kulik wrote:
I don't know what's going on here, but I can't install NVDA 2021.1 beta 5 because:

---------------------------
Error
---------------------------
usage: nvda_noUIAccess.exe [-h] [-q] [-k] [-f LOGFILENAME]
                           [-l {10,12,15,20,30,40,50,100}] [-c CONFIGPATH]
                           [-m] [-s] [--disable-addons] [--debug-logging]
                           [--no-logging] [--no-sr-flag]
                           [--install | --install-silent | --create-portable | --create-portable-silent]
                           [--portable-path PORTABLEPATH] [--launcher]
                           [--enable-start-on-logon True|False]
                           [--copy-portable-config] [--ease-of-access]
 
error: argument -m/--minimal: ignored explicit argument '--log-level=20'
---------------------------
OK

What should I do then?


locked Re: Windows 11 accessibility

JM Casey
 

It’s pretty much the least exciting major version change in history (ok, that might be a slight exaggeration). When Windows 10 came around it felt like it was at least somewhat something new and that it was meant to be that – this just feels like yet anotehr Windows 10 update that was braned this way for some reason? Why? Oh Microsoft…

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: June 24, 2021 12:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 11 accessibility

 

On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 12:46 PM, Chris Smart wrote:

Are Microsoft even calling it Windows 11?

=
Yes, what had been known by the code name Sun Valley, and been developed as what had been slated to be Windows 10, Version 20H2, has been officially rebranded as Windows 11 by Microsoft a short while ago.

Note carefully what I said above.  There will be no significant accessibility changes (except for a few possible regression bugs and/or actual improvements to accessibility) in Windows 11 because it is, and always has been, the next feature update.

Why a redesigned UI, and that's the main difference in this release, warrants a rebranding as a whole new Windows version number is anyone's guess, and only the marketing geniuses at Microsoft really know.

But let's not pretend that this is some major version change like 7 to 8 and 8 to 10 were, because it's not.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: NVDA 2021.1 beta 5 error installation

Chris
 

You have to download the installer and run it from your PC

 

 

From: Ján Kulik
Sent: 24 June 2021 18:27
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2021.1 beta 5 error installation

 

I don't know what's going on here, but I can't install NVDA 2021.1 beta 5 because:

---------------------------

Error

---------------------------

usage: nvda_noUIAccess.exe [-h] [-q] [-k] [-f LOGFILENAME]

                           [-l {10,12,15,20,30,40,50,100}] [-c CONFIGPATH]

                           [-m] [-s] [--disable-addons] [--debug-logging]

                           [--no-logging] [--no-sr-flag]

                           [--install | --install-silent | --create-portable | --create-portable-silent]

                           [--portable-path PORTABLEPATH] [--launcher]

                           [--enable-start-on-logon True|False]

                           [--copy-portable-config] [--ease-of-access]

 

error: argument -m/--minimal: ignored explicit argument '--log-level=20'

---------------------------

OK

What should I do then?

 


locked Re: Windows 11 accessibility

Bob Jutzi
 

Yes.

On 6/24/2021 12:46 PM, Chris Smart wrote:
Are Microsoft even calling it Windows 11?



On 2021-06-24 12:31 p.m., Bob Jutzi wrote:
From the reading I've done, most of the benefits of Windows 11 are
visual and other than the Start Menu, there don't seem to be any major
changes that would affect us.  I still can't wait to get my hands on an
insider preview.


On 6/24/2021 12:25 PM, Ali Savas wrote:
Hello all,

Microsoft has finally unveiled Windows 11, which has been awaited by
many technically minded people. As expected, unfortunately not so much
was said about the accessibility of Windows 11, because not so many
people are interested in it. At least I couldn't read anything about
it.
However, I can very well imagine that developers of assistive
technologies were informed in advance to already make adjustments to
their products.

Therefore I would be interested in the following:

Are there already experiences from the developers how it looks like
with
the accessibility of Windows 11? Has much been done under the hood in
this regard or is it really "just" a beefed up Windows 10?

Personally, I think Windows 11 is a visually improved Windows 10, which
has been populated with some minor features without making any major
changes to the kernel. For this reason, I don't think there are as big
technical changes as for example from Windows XP to Vista/7. I think
Windows 11 is more marketing than anything else.

Thanks in advance and best regards
Ali












Re: NVDA 2021.1 beta 5 error installation

Chris Smart
 

thanks



On 2021-06-24 1:35 p.m., Rui Fontes wrote:

You have tried to update automatically and that is not possible due to a bug in 2021.1 Beta 3 and 4...

Since you already have the file in the Temp folder, you can update starting the instalation from that executable.

As the name is difficult to check what file is the Beta5, you can dowload it directly from NVAccess through the following link:

https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/releases/2021.1beta5/nvda_2021.1beta5.exe

Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team

Às 18:27 de 24/06/2021, Ján Kulik escreveu:
I don't know what's going on here, but I can't install NVDA 2021.1 beta 5 because:

---------------------------
Error
---------------------------
usage: nvda_noUIAccess.exe [-h] [-q] [-k] [-f LOGFILENAME]
                           [-l {10,12,15,20,30,40,50,100}] [-c CONFIGPATH]
                           [-m] [-s] [--disable-addons] [--debug-logging]
                           [--no-logging] [--no-sr-flag]
                           [--install | --install-silent | --create-portable | --create-portable-silent]
                           [--portable-path PORTABLEPATH] [--launcher]
                           [--enable-start-on-logon True|False]
                           [--copy-portable-config] [--ease-of-access]
 
error: argument -m/--minimal: ignored explicit argument '--log-level=20'
---------------------------
OK

What should I do then?


Re: NVDA 2021.1 beta 5 error installation

Rui Fontes
 

You have tried to update automatically and that is not possible due to a bug in 2021.1 Beta 3 and 4...

Since you already have the file in the Temp folder, you can update starting the instalation from that executable.

As the name is difficult to check what file is the Beta5, you can dowload it directly from NVAccess through the following link:

https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/releases/2021.1beta5/nvda_2021.1beta5.exe

Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team

Às 18:27 de 24/06/2021, Ján Kulik escreveu:

I don't know what's going on here, but I can't install NVDA 2021.1 beta 5 because:

---------------------------
Error
---------------------------
usage: nvda_noUIAccess.exe [-h] [-q] [-k] [-f LOGFILENAME]
                           [-l {10,12,15,20,30,40,50,100}] [-c CONFIGPATH]
                           [-m] [-s] [--disable-addons] [--debug-logging]
                           [--no-logging] [--no-sr-flag]
                           [--install | --install-silent | --create-portable | --create-portable-silent]
                           [--portable-path PORTABLEPATH] [--launcher]
                           [--enable-start-on-logon True|False]
                           [--copy-portable-config] [--ease-of-access]
 
error: argument -m/--minimal: ignored explicit argument '--log-level=20'
---------------------------
OK

What should I do then?


Re: NVDA 2021.1 beta 5 error installation

Chris Smart
 

I just got exactly the same error here too.

Surprised beta 5 came out so quickly.


On 2021-06-24 1:27 p.m., Ján Kulik wrote:
I don't know what's going on here, but I can't install NVDA 2021.1 beta 5 because:

---------------------------
Error
---------------------------
usage: nvda_noUIAccess.exe [-h] [-q] [-k] [-f LOGFILENAME]
                           [-l {10,12,15,20,30,40,50,100}] [-c CONFIGPATH]
                           [-m] [-s] [--disable-addons] [--debug-logging]
                           [--no-logging] [--no-sr-flag]
                           [--install | --install-silent | --create-portable | --create-portable-silent]
                           [--portable-path PORTABLEPATH] [--launcher]
                           [--enable-start-on-logon True|False]
                           [--copy-portable-config] [--ease-of-access]
 
error: argument -m/--minimal: ignored explicit argument '--log-level=20'
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OK

What should I do then?


NVDA 2021.1 beta 5 error installation

Ján Kulik
 

I don't know what's going on here, but I can't install NVDA 2021.1 beta 5 because:

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Error
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usage: nvda_noUIAccess.exe [-h] [-q] [-k] [-f LOGFILENAME]
                           [-l {10,12,15,20,30,40,50,100}] [-c CONFIGPATH]
                           [-m] [-s] [--disable-addons] [--debug-logging]
                           [--no-logging] [--no-sr-flag]
                           [--install | --install-silent | --create-portable | --create-portable-silent]
                           [--portable-path PORTABLEPATH] [--launcher]
                           [--enable-start-on-logon True|False]
                           [--copy-portable-config] [--ease-of-access]
 
error: argument -m/--minimal: ignored explicit argument '--log-level=20'
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OK

What should I do then?


IMPORTANT NOTICE: Windows 10 App Essentials to be renamed to Windows App Essentials the day Windows 11 is released

 

Hello everyone,

The following information concerns Windows 10 App Essentials:

Today Microsoft announced Windows 11, the successor to Windows 10. A discussion about letting NVDA support Windows 11 was just created:

Add support for Windows 11 · Issue #12585 · nvaccess/nvda (github.com)

 

Apart from that, I hereby announce that Windows 10 App Essentials will be renamed to “Windows App Essentials” the day Windows 11 is released. The biggest reason is that Windows 11 includes user interface tweaks on top of enhanced Windows 10 technologies (subject to confirmation once Insider Preview build is released), therefore it makes sense to rename the add-on while keeping its core code intact. To acknowledge its origins (improving Windows 10 usage and feature access for NVDA users) and for backward compatibility, the internal add-on identifier will remain “wintenApps”, with the add-on update key being the same (w10). I’ll talk about support duration for Windows 11 releases once more details emerge this summer.

Cheers,

Joseph


locked Re: Windows 11 accessibility

 

On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 12:46 PM, Chris Smart wrote:
Are Microsoft even calling it Windows 11?
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Yes, what had been known by the code name Sun Valley, and been developed as what had been slated to be Windows 10, Version 20H2, has been officially rebranded as Windows 11 by Microsoft a short while ago.

Note carefully what I said above.  There will be no significant accessibility changes (except for a few possible regression bugs and/or actual improvements to accessibility) in Windows 11 because it is, and always has been, the next feature update.

Why a redesigned UI, and that's the main difference in this release, warrants a rebranding as a whole new Windows version number is anyone's guess, and only the marketing geniuses at Microsoft really know.

But let's not pretend that this is some major version change like 7 to 8 and 8 to 10 were, because it's not.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 

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