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Re: Is doing a completely clean install of windows 10 screen reader accessible?

Afik Souffir <afik.souffir@...>
 

 

Ok, will see. Thanks much

 

 

נשלח מהאפליקציה 'דואר' עבור Windows 10

 

מאת: Rui Fontes
נשלח: יום שישי 25 יוני 2021 14:24
אל: nvda@nvda.groups.io
נושא:
Re: [nvda] clean install of windows 10

 

Not only that, but the system will inform you...

 

Rui

 

Às 12:09 de 25/06/2021, Afik Souffir escreveu:

It'll just stop talking?

 

 

נשלח מהאפליקציה 'דואר' עבור Windows 10

 

מאת: Rui Fontes
נשלח: יום שישי 25 יוני 2021 14:08
אל: nvda@nvda.groups.io
נושא:
Re: [nvda] clean install of windows 10

 

Yes, you will know...

 

Rui Fontes

 

Às 12:01 de 25/06/2021, Afik Souffir escreveu:

And how do I know that the installation is started?

Now, it's downloading.

 

 

נשלח מהאפליקציה 'דואר' עבור Windows 10

 

מאת: Rui Fontes
נשלח: יום שישי 25 יוני 2021 13:55
אל: nvda@nvda.groups.io
נושא:
Re: [nvda] clean install of windows 10

 

It is accessible with Narrator.

NVDA will get you untill the installation is started, then you will need Narrator.

 

Rui Fontes

 

Às 11:38 de 25/06/2021, Afik Souffir escreveu:

 

Hi,

Just want to be sure

 

Is clean install of windows 10 – on the same laptop accessible for blind people? Maybe with NVDA or Narator?

 

Thanks much,

Help will be very appreciated.

 

Afik

 

 

נשלח מהאפליקציה 'דואר' עבור Windows 10

 

 

 

 


Re: Is doing a completely clean install of windows 10 screen reader accessible?

Rui Fontes
 

Not only that, but the system will inform you...


Rui


Às 12:09 de 25/06/2021, Afik Souffir escreveu:

It'll just stop talking?

 

 

נשלח מהאפליקציה 'דואר' עבור Windows 10

 

מאת: Rui Fontes
נשלח: יום שישי 25 יוני 2021 14:08
אל: nvda@nvda.groups.io
נושא:
Re: [nvda] clean install of windows 10

 

Yes, you will know...

 

Rui Fontes

 

Às 12:01 de 25/06/2021, Afik Souffir escreveu:

And how do I know that the installation is started?

Now, it's downloading.

 

 

נשלח מהאפליקציה 'דואר' עבור Windows 10

 

מאת: Rui Fontes
נשלח: יום שישי 25 יוני 2021 13:55
אל: nvda@nvda.groups.io
נושא:
Re: [nvda] clean install of windows 10

 

It is accessible with Narrator.

NVDA will get you untill the installation is started, then you will need Narrator.

 

Rui Fontes

 

Às 11:38 de 25/06/2021, Afik Souffir escreveu:

 

Hi,

Just want to be sure

 

Is clean install of windows 10 – on the same laptop accessible for blind people? Maybe with NVDA or Narator?

 

Thanks much,

Help will be very appreciated.

 

Afik

 

 

נשלח מהאפליקציה 'דואר' עבור Windows 10

 

 

 


Re: Is doing a completely clean install of windows 10 screen reader accessible?

Afik Souffir <afik.souffir@...>
 

It'll just stop talking?

 

 

נשלח מהאפליקציה 'דואר' עבור Windows 10

 

מאת: Rui Fontes
נשלח: יום שישי 25 יוני 2021 14:08
אל: nvda@nvda.groups.io
נושא:
Re: [nvda] clean install of windows 10

 

Yes, you will know...

 

Rui Fontes

 

Às 12:01 de 25/06/2021, Afik Souffir escreveu:

And how do I know that the installation is started?

Now, it's downloading.

 

 

נשלח מהאפליקציה 'דואר' עבור Windows 10

 

מאת: Rui Fontes
נשלח: יום שישי 25 יוני 2021 13:55
אל: nvda@nvda.groups.io
נושא:
Re: [nvda] clean install of windows 10

 

It is accessible with Narrator.

NVDA will get you untill the installation is started, then you will need Narrator.

 

Rui Fontes

 

Às 11:38 de 25/06/2021, Afik Souffir escreveu:

 

Hi,

Just want to be sure

 

Is clean install of windows 10 – on the same laptop accessible for blind people? Maybe with NVDA or Narator?

 

Thanks much,

Help will be very appreciated.

 

Afik

 

 

נשלח מהאפליקציה 'דואר' עבור Windows 10

 

 

 


Re: Is doing a completely clean install of windows 10 screen reader accessible?

Rui Fontes
 

Yes, you will know...


Rui Fontes


Às 12:01 de 25/06/2021, Afik Souffir escreveu:

And how do I know that the installation is started?

Now, it's downloading.

 

 

נשלח מהאפליקציה 'דואר' עבור Windows 10

 

מאת: Rui Fontes
נשלח: יום שישי 25 יוני 2021 13:55
אל: nvda@nvda.groups.io
נושא:
Re: [nvda] clean install of windows 10

 

It is accessible with Narrator.

NVDA will get you untill the installation is started, then you will need Narrator.

 

Rui Fontes

 

Às 11:38 de 25/06/2021, Afik Souffir escreveu:

 

Hi,

Just want to be sure

 

Is clean install of windows 10 – on the same laptop accessible for blind people? Maybe with NVDA or Narator?

 

Thanks much,

Help will be very appreciated.

 

Afik

 

 

נשלח מהאפליקציה 'דואר' עבור Windows 10

 

 


Golden Cursor Add-On is now compatible with NVDA 2021.1

Viny
 

Hi, Every one

I just want to report that Golden Curson Add-on (rersion 4.0) is incompatible with nvda 2021.1.

Great thanks to fix it!!

Have a nice day.


Re: Is doing a completely clean install of windows 10 screen reader accessible?

Afik Souffir <afik.souffir@...>
 

And how do I know that the installation is started?

Now, it's downloading.

 

 

נשלח מהאפליקציה 'דואר' עבור Windows 10

 

מאת: Rui Fontes
נשלח: יום שישי 25 יוני 2021 13:55
אל: nvda@nvda.groups.io
נושא:
Re: [nvda] clean install of windows 10

 

It is accessible with Narrator.

NVDA will get you untill the installation is started, then you will need Narrator.

 

Rui Fontes

 

Às 11:38 de 25/06/2021, Afik Souffir escreveu:

 

Hi,

Just want to be sure

 

Is clean install of windows 10 – on the same laptop accessible for blind people? Maybe with NVDA or Narator?

 

Thanks much,

Help will be very appreciated.

 

Afik

 

 

נשלח מהאפליקציה 'דואר' עבור Windows 10

 

 


Re: Is doing a completely clean install of windows 10 screen reader accessible?

Rui Fontes
 

It is accessible with Narrator.

NVDA will get you untill the installation is started, then you will need Narrator.


Rui Fontes


Às 11:38 de 25/06/2021, Afik Souffir escreveu:

 

Hi,

Just want to be sure

 

Is clean install of windows 10 – on the same laptop accessible for blind people? Maybe with NVDA or Narator?

 

Thanks much,

Help will be very appreciated.

 

Afik

 

 

נשלח מהאפליקציה 'דואר' עבור Windows 10

 


Is doing a completely clean install of windows 10 screen reader accessible?

Afik Souffir <afik.souffir@...>
 

 

Hi,

Just want to be sure

 

Is clean install of windows 10 – on the same laptop accessible for blind people? Maybe with NVDA or Narator?

 

Thanks much,

Help will be very appreciated.

 

Afik

 

 

נשלח מהאפליקציה 'דואר' עבור Windows 10

 


related, but somewhat o/t Musecore

Christopher Bartlett
 

My apologies if you've seen this elsewhere, but I'm looking for someone with experience using the Musescore program with NVDA.  I'm just starting and have run into a problem I don't know how to solve.  As this is not specifically NVDA related, you could contact me off list.
Thank you.

Christopher Bartlett


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Christopher Bartlett


Re: changing input gestures of an addon, which doesn't appear in the input gestures dialog.

Rui Fontes
 

In my view, if you do not know wich .py file needs to be modified, is better to change the other keystroke conflicting using the Input gestures dialog...


If you want to try, normally you should change the __init__.py or addonName.py file...


Rui Fontes


Às 02:19 de 25/06/2021, abdul muhamin escreveu:

Which .pai file? There are many

 

 

From: Rui Fontes
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 3:46 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] changing input gestures of an addon, which doesn't appear in the input gestures dialog.

 

In that case, you will need to edit the .py file.

Look for gesture...

Be carefull to do not change anything else than the keystroke...


Rui Fontes

 

Às 11:31 de 24/06/2021, abdul muhamin escreveu:

Hello everyone, as the subject says, is there a possibility to change or edit an input gesture of an addon which doesn’t appear in the input gesture dialog? Actually I want to change lion live OCR gesture, because it is conflicting with the direct link addon, both the keys are same (alt NVDA l) and the lion OCR isn’t available in the input gestures dialog.

 

Regards:

Abdulmuhamin.

Content executive at

Blind Help Project

 


Re: Webex Accessibility Regression

Martin O'Sullivan
 

Hi I have the same issue Webex will no longer work with NVDA.


Re: Webex Accessibility Regression

Sean Murphy
 

I like to inform you that Cisco does not test with NVDA.  When I work for them a couple years ago in their accessibility group I was the only one who used NVDA for testing.  You need to raise this with the accessibility@... mailer and really push the point. There are still bugs I’ve seen two years ago that they haven’t fixed.  If you’re in a government USA then I would be using section 508 as a  leverage  to push this point.    

My experience is the part 

On 24 Jun 2021, at 12:34 am, kyleborah1234321@... wrote:

Hello all,

As a bit of an introduction, I have recently started a software developer job where I am consistently using Windows again after  trying to run far away from it for the past 6 years. We use WebEx for meetings and early last week (the week of the 14-18 of June 2021), The join a meeting screen has suddenly become inaccessible. This is the screen that lets you make sure you have your video and audio set up correctly before joining. NVDA sees the window, but can not see anything in it. If I perform OCR with NVDA+r, It says, "Content is not visible." I have received visual confirmation that the window is on the screen and looks okay. I can also access it with narrator. But NVDA doesn't work. I have tried launching NVDA under an admin account and with addons disabled, but nothing seems to work.
Obviously I can join from my phone, and I can get into the meetings with narrator, But I would really like this to work with NVDA like it used to.

Has anyone come across this? I tried to do some searching on the page here, but it doesn't seem you are able to search here on groups.io. Am I mistaken about this?


Re: changing input gestures of an addon, which doesn't appear in the input gestures dialog.

Rowen Cary
 

Try to search for "kb in *.py


Re: NVDA Remote Not Echoing On Controller's Side

Rowen Cary
 

Hi

Attempt to cancel speech for expired focus events is set to "No"


NVDA Remote Not Echoing On Controller's Side

Glenn / Lenny
 

Hi,
Recently I remoted into a friend's computer to do some fixing for him, and I could hear my work on his end over the phone, but I could not hear it on my side.
I was using the Eloquence add-in.
Could this be the problem with no screenreader sound on my end?
Thanks.
 
Glenn


SharePoint and MS Word; phantom announcements

Jeff Samco
 

At my work, we recently switched over to using SharePoint. I'm using the current version of NVDA. Now when working in a Word document stored on SharePoint I am getting erroneous announcements tagged on after the actual text is voiced by the speech synthesizer, irrespective of using Eloquence or OneCore. These erroneous announcements are either "sign-in required" or "upload blocked." They occur at the end of a line of text when arrowing down line-by-line. Or, they occur after speech is finished voicing a word when moving word-by-word, or after moving letter-by-letter. When using read to end, these erroneous announcements only occur when there is a line feed present.

Any suggestions what NVDA is picking up on when voicing these? How might I turn this off?

Thanks,

Jeff


No announcement when deleting a word

Jeff Samco
 

I am using the current version of NVDA. When I delete a word using Ctrl + Delete I do not get the next word voiced as I do on a different computer. Just deleting by letter does announce the next letter. Where might I change this setting?

Thanks,

Jeff


locked Re: Windows 11 accessibility

 

This topic is now locked.  It is not NVDA related, and is entirely off-topic for this group.
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


locked Re: Windows 11 accessibility

Monte Single
 

Regardless of how many manchine and smart devices for runningsoftware other than windows, there are still about 1 billion windows machines  in use today.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of g melconian
Sent: June 24, 2021 7:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 11 accessibility

 

Shawn, I am in agreement with you.ms and windows have fallen out of favor to other OS and devices over the years. MS has not realized that reality and stuck on the old windows believs that every pc should be running windows. That is not the case anymore. most are either running I OS, MAC OS, Chrome OS and Android .  So with more choices out there  , the ms and windows camp are losing the battel . Instead of reshaping themselve they are stuck to their old core beliefs


locked Re: Windows 11 accessibility

Monte Single
 

Hi List,

 

Consider this;

 

Would micro soft continue to support windows 10  til some time in 2025  if it had so much vulnerability that  hundreds of millions machines running win 10  have to be replaced with win 11 machines?

Come on folks, think about this simple question for a minute or 2?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: June 24, 2021 6:42 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 11 accessibility

 

Well yeah I need to agree.

How much will the windows 10 x stuff be to the average user anyway.

Put it this way, not many will be snapping up new systems just to have tpm module support or anything.

I think microsoft needs to tell us what this extra security module will do to and what the risks are if you didn't have it.

 

I suspect consumers may not even have to worry about it.

Especially if they use a local account.

Since microsoft removed things like the music store, there is nothing for us blinks on it bar a few windows apps and codecs.

Compaired to everyone else apple, google, etc thats pritty lame.

Then they cut down cortana.

So simply that means the only 2 assistants in the running are google and amazon.

The apple system is catching up but only works for apple devices and the other 2 are universal.

My point microsoft aint pushing any favors.

Even if a system like mine has tpm2 installed which I checked, that pc healthcheck obviously does not detect it.

I also agree about the update.

Security is fine but a new interface from windows x does not inspire me a user to upgrade.

Bar some minor things, I don't see this as any step forward.

So now I need to go through an extra step.

Setup, connect to a microsoft account, create a local one, delete my microsoft account or revert because I don't need most of its features, and other stuff.

Its another headake to things.

Then I need to turn all widgets off because they get in the way.

I mean really just give us a working os for once.

 

 

On 25/06/2021 6:56 am, JM Casey wrote:

It’s pretty much the least exciting major version change in history (ok, that might be a slight exaggeration). When Windows 10 came around it felt like it was at least somewhat something new and that it was meant to be that – this just feels like yet anotehr Windows 10 update that was braned this way for some reason? Why? Oh Microsoft…

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: June 24, 2021 12:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 11 accessibility

 

On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 12:46 PM, Chris Smart wrote:

Are Microsoft even calling it Windows 11?

=
Yes, what had been known by the code name Sun Valley, and been developed as what had been slated to be Windows 10, Version 20H2, has been officially rebranded as Windows 11 by Microsoft a short while ago.

Note carefully what I said above.  There will be no significant accessibility changes (except for a few possible regression bugs and/or actual improvements to accessibility) in Windows 11 because it is, and always has been, the next feature update.

Why a redesigned UI, and that's the main difference in this release, warrants a rebranding as a whole new Windows version number is anyone's guess, and only the marketing geniuses at Microsoft really know.

But let's not pretend that this is some major version change like 7 to 8 and 8 to 10 were, because it's not.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 

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