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Re: Preliminary: NVDA runs happily on Windows 11, issues being investigated

Brian Sackrider
 

    Has the windows start music been removed in windows 11?  My friend is in the windows insider program and he has the developer version and the windows start sound is checked but when the pc starts there is no start up music.  If this true than if nvda for some reason does not read the log in screen then we won't know if our pcs are on the desk top or not. He does like windows 11 but he did not like windows 10 11 is faster on start up and everything else the edge loadsmuch faster.

Brian Sackrider

On 6/28/2021 7:23 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hello everyone,

As per a directive from forum moderators, if you have any questions about Windows 11 (currently being tested by Windows Insiders), please write to me or to Win10 Forum for Screen Reader Users:

 

For those who are watching Twitter universe: I’m delighted to announce that NVDA runs on Windows 11 Insider Preview (build 22000), and NV Access retweeted it. As implied by folks here last week, as Windows 11 is under active development, things can change without notice, including issues and resolutions. More info about Windows 11 issues for screen readers (as reported by Windows Insiders) can be tracked here:

win10@win10.groups.io | Windows 11 (thread): first impressions, things to be aware of

 

If you are indeed a Windows Insider and happen to be using NVDA, I’m tweaking NVDA to work better with Windows 11 via Windows App Essentials. For best experience, please install:

  • NVDA 2021.1 beta 5 or later
  • Windows App Essentials June 29th development snapshot or later

 

Again if you have any questions or comments on Windows 11 preview, please write to me directly or ask on the forum I linked above.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: accessible Password managers

Pranav Lal
 

Hi Cearbhall,

 

Key pass 2 works and is accessible. Zara has already suggested this.

 

Pranav


Preliminary: NVDA runs happily on Windows 11, issues being investigated

 

Hello everyone,

As per a directive from forum moderators, if you have any questions about Windows 11 (currently being tested by Windows Insiders), please write to me or to Win10 Forum for Screen Reader Users:

 

For those who are watching Twitter universe: I’m delighted to announce that NVDA runs on Windows 11 Insider Preview (build 22000), and NV Access retweeted it. As implied by folks here last week, as Windows 11 is under active development, things can change without notice, including issues and resolutions. More info about Windows 11 issues for screen readers (as reported by Windows Insiders) can be tracked here:

win10@win10.groups.io | Windows 11 (thread): first impressions, things to be aware of

 

If you are indeed a Windows Insider and happen to be using NVDA, I’m tweaking NVDA to work better with Windows 11 via Windows App Essentials. For best experience, please install:

  • NVDA 2021.1 beta 5 or later
  • Windows App Essentials June 29th development snapshot or later

 

Again if you have any questions or comments on Windows 11 preview, please write to me directly or ask on the forum I linked above.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: accessible Password managers

Blake Roberts <BEarlRoberts@...>
 

I myself use
AnyPassword Pro
which I consider to be very accessible with NVDA. Although I have not found any version updates for a few years, I still use AnyPassword Pro due to its accessibility and no subscription required.

The program uses standard window controls, so you can tab between options and have access to menus with alt key. There is  also tree structure for folders to open/close similar to the folders in File Explorer.

AnyPassword Pro can be trialed for a period of time after download/installation. If you like it, there is a one-time payment per version. Meaning, I paid once for the prievious version. A second payment was made after trialing current version.


Blake


Re: Issue With Thunderbird Line Navigation In 2021.1 Beta 5

Chris Smart
 

Yep, Thunderbird and the latest beta here with no issues whatsoever.

On 2021-06-28 2:40 p.m., tim wrote:
Never did have a problem reading emails.

Using baita 5with all add ons that will run on that one, plus same with TB.

So they may want to check there setup.

On 6/28/2021 9:11 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

I do not have this issue using NVDA 2020.4 stable relese. However, I am seeing this issue reported on other lists. With 2021 beta 5, people are reporting that navigation line by line (with the up/down arrow keys) renders no speech.  Can anyone official or otherwise confirm this issue?



Re: Issue With Thunderbird Line Navigation In 2021.1 Beta 5

tim
 

Never did have a problem reading emails.

Using baita 5with all add ons that will run on that one, plus same with TB.

So they may want to check there setup.

On 6/28/2021 9:11 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

I do not have this issue using NVDA 2020.4 stable relese. However, I am seeing this issue reported on other lists. With 2021 beta 5, people are reporting that navigation line by line (with the up/down arrow keys) renders no speech.  Can anyone official or otherwise confirm this issue?


Re: Loss of Speech at Sign-in Screen after period of inactivity

Walter <walterzuiderwijk@...>
 

Click om de next link en de probleem is wie zelf 't


Sorry voor mij bed English 

Op 28 jun. 2021 om 20:12 heeft Richard B. McDonald <richardbmcdonald@...> het volgende geschreven:



Hi!

 

To clarify a few things brought up in the below, 1) the computer is set “never” to sleep and 2) there are no Bluetooth devices connected.

 

However, up until right now I had the screen set to “turn off” after one hour.  Now, I set it to “never.”  Might this have been the cause?  Also, about leaving the screen on all the time, in the old days (with CRT monitors at least) we were told not to leave the screen on because the image would “burn” into it leaving a ghost on the screen.  Is that still true with a modern monitor?  I believe the monitor in question here is an LCD.  Of course, for now I am putting aside the power consumption issues; as explained next.

 

This desktop PC in question here has several accounts on it.  One of  them is for my wife (sighted).  She uses the computer daily for work.  The computer is also acting as a “server” on our WiFi; sharing its “public” folder over that WiFi.  I constantly access that folder over our WiFi via my laptop for data files, music and so on.  In the past, I have had problems doing this if the computer went to sleep.  I do know about the “wake on LAN” thing, but that never really solved these problems in a solid way.  Seemingly, using a screen reader becomes unreliable in an environment involving WiFi networks and computers that sleep.

 

Thanks,

Richard

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2021 1:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Loss of Speech at Sign-in Screen after period of inactivity

 

On Sun, Jun 27, 2021 at 02:21 PM, Gene wrote:

I don’t know but why do you let it sit at the sign in screen?

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I doubt that he does.  Windows (10, but not just 10) by default is set to go to sleep after a period of inactivity, and to require sign on again when awakened.  That's why I suggested turning off the sign on requirement.  I have mine set that way as well as my computer never set to sleep if it's running on AC power.  It will sleep if running on battery power, but still does not require sign on when awakened.
 
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Re: Loss of Speech at Sign-in Screen after period of inactivity

Richard B. McDonald
 

Hi!

 

To clarify a few things brought up in the below, 1) the computer is set “never” to sleep and 2) there are no Bluetooth devices connected.

 

However, up until right now I had the screen set to “turn off” after one hour.  Now, I set it to “never.”  Might this have been the cause?  Also, about leaving the screen on all the time, in the old days (with CRT monitors at least) we were told not to leave the screen on because the image would “burn” into it leaving a ghost on the screen.  Is that still true with a modern monitor?  I believe the monitor in question here is an LCD.  Of course, for now I am putting aside the power consumption issues; as explained next.

 

This desktop PC in question here has several accounts on it.  One of  them is for my wife (sighted).  She uses the computer daily for work.  The computer is also acting as a “server” on our WiFi; sharing its “public” folder over that WiFi.  I constantly access that folder over our WiFi via my laptop for data files, music and so on.  In the past, I have had problems doing this if the computer went to sleep.  I do know about the “wake on LAN” thing, but that never really solved these problems in a solid way.  Seemingly, using a screen reader becomes unreliable in an environment involving WiFi networks and computers that sleep.

 

Thanks,

Richard

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2021 1:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Loss of Speech at Sign-in Screen after period of inactivity

 

On Sun, Jun 27, 2021 at 02:21 PM, Gene wrote:

I don’t know but why do you let it sit at the sign in screen?

-
I doubt that he does.  Windows (10, but not just 10) by default is set to go to sleep after a period of inactivity, and to require sign on again when awakened.  That's why I suggested turning off the sign on requirement.  I have mine set that way as well as my computer never set to sleep if it's running on AC power.  It will sleep if running on battery power, but still does not require sign on when awakened.
 
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I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: Differential behavior with NVDA Portable versus Installed when working with Microsoft Word on windows 10

Walter <walterzuiderwijk@...>
 

Thankyou so much

Groet Walter

Op 28 jun. 2021 om 19:54 heeft Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> het volgende geschreven:

You can get your Windows version, on any machine running Windows, via the winver command.  In the case of Windows 10 you just hit the Windows key, type winver, then hit enter.  The dialog with the version and build information appears.

winver has been around as long as Windows has.
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: Differential behavior with NVDA Portable versus Installed when working with Microsoft Word on windows 10

 

You can get your Windows version, on any machine running Windows, via the winver command.  In the case of Windows 10 you just hit the Windows key, type winver, then hit enter.  The dialog with the version and build information appears.

winver has been around as long as Windows has.
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: Differential behavior with NVDA Portable versus Installed when working with Microsoft Word on windows 10

Walter <walterzuiderwijk@...>
 

good day,
Went to work today, I looked for the version of Windows 10 but couldn't find it. Now that I'm home I remember that I can find it under info. The version of NVDA that did not work with word at my work was the latest update 2020.4.
But I think you're starting to get it right about the network drive being protected. Because the NVDA version on the computer itself does it with word. It is still an older version of NVDA but that has to do with the fact that I can't update it due to admin rights.
Kind regards Walter
Verzonden vanuit Mail voor Windows 10
 

Groet Walter

Op 24 jun. 2021 om 15:56 heeft Walter via groups.io <walterzuiderwijk@...> het volgende geschreven:


Dear,
My apologies I haven't been to work today because of a migraine I hope but I can't promise anything yet I'll check on Monday to see if I can email the verzies you asked for
Kind regarts Walter Zuiderwijk

Groet Walter

Op 23 jun. 2021 om 21:13 heeft Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> het volgende geschreven:

BTW, I have corrected the spelling on "when" in the topic title, which I am responsible for having introduced.  Please, if possible, respond to messages that have "when" not "wheh."
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: accessible Password managers

Fawaz Abdul rahman
 

Hi,
You can also use the password managers that come with the browser, I use the one in firefox, I know that there is one with chrome too.
Other than that, there is bitwarden (open source) and 1password (paid), subscription-based.
good luck.


On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 5:45 PM zahra <nasrinkhaksar3@...> wrote:
hi.
i think that keypass should be accessible with nvda screen reader.
also, its opensource.

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Re: Issue With Thunderbird Line Navigation In 2021.1 Beta 5

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

It happens for a few lines and then stops.



On 6/28/2021 8:18 AM, Gene wrote:

But is this a new problem with the version Ron is asking about?  And does this just happen when you move for a few lines, then stop or does it happen for an entire message?
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Issue With Thunderbird Line Navigation In 2021.1 Beta 5
 
Hi, Ron,


I don't have a problem with loss of speech but from time to time I hear
"selected" or "unselected" when I'm trying to read a message line by line,


Rosemarie



On 6/28/2021 6:11 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
> Hi Group,
>
> I do not have this issue using NVDA 2020.4 stable relese. However, I
> am seeing this issue reported on other lists. With 2021 beta 5, people
> are reporting that navigation line by line (with the up/down arrow
> keys) renders no speech.  Can anyone official or otherwise confirm
> this issue?
>





Re: Issue With Thunderbird Line Navigation In 2021.1 Beta 5

Gene
 

But is this a new problem with the version Ron is asking about?  And does this just happen when you move for a few lines, then stop or does it happen for an entire message?
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Issue With Thunderbird Line Navigation In 2021.1 Beta 5
 
Hi, Ron,


I don't have a problem with loss of speech but from time to time I hear
"selected" or "unselected" when I'm trying to read a message line by line,


Rosemarie



On 6/28/2021 6:11 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
> Hi Group,
>
> I do not have this issue using NVDA 2020.4 stable relese. However, I
> am seeing this issue reported on other lists. With 2021 beta 5, people
> are reporting that navigation line by line (with the up/down arrow
> keys) renders no speech.  Can anyone official or otherwise confirm
> this issue?
>





Re: Issue With Thunderbird Line Navigation In 2021.1 Beta 5

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Ron,


I don't have a problem with loss of speech but from time to time I hear "selected" or "unselected" when I'm trying to read a message line by line,


Rosemarie

On 6/28/2021 6:11 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

I do not have this issue using NVDA 2020.4 stable relese. However, I am seeing this issue reported on other lists. With 2021 beta 5, people are reporting that navigation line by line (with the up/down arrow keys) renders no speech.  Can anyone official or otherwise confirm this issue?


Re: accessible Password managers

 

I've been using Password Safe (as have some of my clients) for years now along with its Android port (there's an iOS one, too) Passwd Safe.

Unless something's changed, and I have no visual evidence of that as it seems to have remained static as far as the UI goes for years, it's accessible.
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I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: accessible Password managers

Life in Six Dots
 

Hi Cearbhall,

The most accessible Password Manager I've found is 1Password. It is accessible with most screen readers including NVDA. I've used it for some years now with JAWS, NVDA, VoiceOver (macOS and iOS), and more recently with Android and even Orca and eSpeakUp on Linux.

Paul


Re: accessible Password managers

 

hi.
i think that keypass should be accessible with nvda screen reader.
also, its opensource.

On 6/28/21, Cearbhall O'Meadhra <cearbhall.omeadhra@...> wrote:
Hi,



Are any password managers usable with NVDA?



I'm thinking of getting one to make my system more secure as I keep
forgetting my passwords.



I'm running NVDA (latest) on windows 10 on the PC.



All the best,



Cearbhall



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accessible Password managers

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Hi,

 

Are any password managers usable with NVDA?

 

I’m thinking of getting one to make my system more secure as I keep forgetting my passwords.

 

I’m running NVDA (latest) on windows 10 on the PC.

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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Issue With Thunderbird Line Navigation In 2021.1 Beta 5

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,

I do not have this issue using NVDA 2020.4 stable relese.  However, I am seeing this issue reported on other lists. With 2021 beta 5, people are reporting that navigation line by line (with the up/down arrow keys) renders no speech.  Can anyone official or otherwise confirm this issue?

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