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control L no longer works

Arlene
 

Hi, As I replied to Brian’s message. If you hit N on the desktop. If you create the hot key to start NVDA. If it doesn’t work. Then uninstall NVDA and reinstall it.  Try creating the hot key before uninstalling it. You do it as the last  option. That’s if the hot key doesn’t work after you create one.

 

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Re: CTRL + ALT + N no longer working - How do I fix this?

Arlene
 

Hi, Why don’t you try this? First go to the desktop. Hit N for NVDA. Second, hit alt enter. Tab until you hear something like desktop short cut. If you hear none. Then you create itControl Alt N  I know it’s the same way you do with Jaws.  

 

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From: Brian Vogel
Sent: July 5, 2021 11:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] CTRL + ALT + N no longer working - How do I fix this?

 

You can uninstall and reinstall NVDA, making sure to make the selection to enable it during the installation process.

You can also edit the NVDA desktop shortcut manually to add CTRL + ALT + N as the keyboard shortcut for same.  The Shortcut tab is what opens by default when you open the properties for a desktop shortcut.  The Shortcut Key edit box is where you'd set up CTRL + ALT + N.
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Re: cannot check boxes.

 

On Mon, Jul 5, 2021 at 03:16 PM, Gene wrote:
If you want to send me concrete examples, you said this, which didn’t address this point I made, etc. I’ll consider them.
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No, Gene, you don't and you won't.  I've been down this road on multiple occasions with in the past, too.  I am no longer wasting my breath or my effort.

Others are not responsible to go back and get you retrospective evidence for things that have been brought to your attention on multiple occasions.  Not our jobs.  We did what we thought we should when the situations presented themselves in the natural course of things.

You have been called out about this, and not only by me, on way more than one occasion and on several of the groups we both mutually haunt.  You just don't care to listen and your offers now ring entirely hollow.  I've done what I can, and with this I'm done.  I'm just going to have to learn to ignore you when the next rounds occur, and they will.
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Re: cannot check boxes.

Gene
 

I’m sorry you feel that way. If I do, it is not intentional. If I misunderstand a point and don’t respond to it, that’s a misunderstanding.  I’m willing to consider specific examples and I’ve told people in the past that I am willing to do so on the rare occasions someone has complained.  But no one sends me any.  I can’t respond to generalizations. 
 
It is impossible to get along with everyone.  there are over a thousand members on this list.  I am on other lists that have a large number of members.  If I am so unreasonable and argumentative, why do I not have all sorts of problems?  Being called out by two people among perhaps seventeen hundred members of various lists isn’t very convincing.  But numbers don’t prove that either of us is right.  But they really challenge your contention.
 
On the rare instances when someone takes exception to what I say, I don’t mean disagreeing about something regarding technology or a list topic, but they object to the way I say something, I can usually come to an amicable understanding with the person.  The offer I have made in the ;past still stands.  If you want to send me concrete examples, you said this, which didn’t address this point I made, etc. I’ll consider them.  Whether I agree or not, I will consider them.  If people have such examples or other comments, they should be sent to me offlist.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, July 05, 2021 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] cannot check boxes.
 
On Mon, Jul 5, 2021 at 11:06 AM, Gene wrote:
Your malicious and inaccurate message doesn’t even deserve a response.
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Gene, you can call it whatever you like.  Two people have now called you out for the same thing.

You do not read for content and you do not listen to feedback.  You respond to what you want others to have said, not what they have said, and respond in isolation to single messages rather than an ongoing conversation and do this on a constant basis.  It's been going on for years.

You don't take gentle feedback, you don't take harsh feedback.  You just will not listen to what others are telling you, repeatedly.  That's your problem, not ours.  You will not own your own behavior.
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      ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: Copy addon settings?

 

How many add-ons are we talking here?

You could copy the user configuration and just nuke the folders under the addons folder that have addons you either don't want or know to be incompatible.  So far it seems that 2021.1 is disabling incompatible add-ons anyway (or it did for me, and suggested I remove those).
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I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: CTRL + ALT + N no longer working - How do I fix this?

 

You can uninstall and reinstall NVDA, making sure to make the selection to enable it during the installation process.

You can also edit the NVDA desktop shortcut manually to add CTRL + ALT + N as the keyboard shortcut for same.  The Shortcut tab is what opens by default when you open the properties for a desktop shortcut.  The Shortcut Key edit box is where you'd set up CTRL + ALT + N.
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


Copy addon settings?

Roger Stewart
 

I just made a portable version of nvda 21.01 for testing. I want to install a few add-ons I have that I know are compatible but not all of them.  I can't just copy my user configuration to it as that will bring in several add-ons that aren't ready yet but I do want to copy the settings from Station Playlist add on to it.  Is there a way to do this?


Thanks.

Roger


CTRL + ALT + N no longer working - How do I fix this?

anthony borg
 

Hello

I have been noticing that the hot key control+ alt+ n, is no longer working, can somebody explain to me what I should do to be able to use it again please?

Thanks in advance

 

Anthony


Re: cannot check boxes.

 

On Mon, Jul 5, 2021 at 11:06 AM, Gene wrote:
Your malicious and inaccurate message doesn’t even deserve a response.
-
Gene, you can call it whatever you like.  Two people have now called you out for the same thing.

You do not read for content and you do not listen to feedback.  You respond to what you want others to have said, not what they have said, and respond in isolation to single messages rather than an ongoing conversation and do this on a constant basis.  It's been going on for years.

You don't take gentle feedback, you don't take harsh feedback.  You just will not listen to what others are telling you, repeatedly.  That's your problem, not ours.  You will not own your own behavior.
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: NVDA 2021.1 RC2 available

 

On Mon, Jul 5, 2021 at 05:05 AM, Ian Blackburn wrote:
What does it mean when it says that the release candidate breaks support for add-ons
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Exactly what it says, and has been said here repeatedly for months:  NVDA 2021.1 will only be compatible with add-ons that have been updated to keep compatibility with this release.

A very great many add-ons are already compatible with 2021.1, and I put out an Admin Notice, and have bumped it several times, with a direct link to the page for checking compatibility:  https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/nvdacompat.en.html

Several others have mentioned it and/or shared it in this topic.

If the add-on or add-ons you use are shown as not being compatible, the appropriate point of contact is the developer or developers for that add-on.
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I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: NVDA 2021.1 RC2 available

Rui Fontes
 

Or buy the SAPI5 version...

No problems with NVDA changes...


Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 13:35 de 05/07/2021, Quentin Christensen escreveu:

Rowen,

I was going to say we can't replicate your issue here, and was going to ask if you have rebooted.

We can't support illegal add-ons.  If you want Eloquence, please just buy the legal version: https://codefactoryglobal.com/app-store/voices-for-nvda/

(I believe their add-on has been updated, they may not have updated the site yet thought).

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Jul 5, 2021 at 9:47 PM Rowen Cary <manchen_0528@...> wrote:

HI, have you installed the IBM-TTS speech synthesizer? This add-on has released a version compatible with NVDA 2021.1, but I’m crashing here https://github.com/davidacm/NVDA-IBMTTS-Driver



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Re: cannot check boxes.

Gene
 

Your malicious and inaccurate message doesn’t even deserve a response. 
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, July 05, 2021 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] cannot check boxes.
 

All of your emails are abstract, and generally unhelpful. If you cannot, gean, provide any helpful info then I say get off of here and learn how to actually listen to what we are saying. You hear but you c cannot listen.

On 4 Jul 2021, at 17:48, Gene wrote:

You disagreed with me.  I responded and that’s how the discussion began.  I do ;pay attention and respond to what people say.  You said this in your initial disagreement:
“I'm sorry, but I have to disagree.  While I agree it can be annoying to find one's favorite browser does not "play well" with a given site, or that one's favorite screen reader does not, that does not mean a site is inaccessible.” 
 
As I said, there is a difference between accessible and usable.  And you never defined accessible.  You criticized my definition as being abstract.  Without a generally accepted and defined definition of accessibility, there would be no standards for determining when a site is or isn’t accessible which would pose all sorts of problems. 
 
All I said was that the problem should be called to the attention of the bank even if a work around is found.  I said nothing about people needing or not needing to use other browsers or screen-readers.  I didn’t say everyone who encounters any site they need to use a work around to access should complain to the site.  Nor am I saying that a site has to work properly with every possible combination of programs.  But a site like this, a banking site, should be generally accessible. 
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2021 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] cannot check boxes.
 
On Sun, Jul 4, 2021 at 08:03 PM, Gene wrote:
I’m saying that, in a case like this, where a major site is not usable by a widely used screen-reader and browser or class of browsers, that site is not accessible.
-
And I have said nothing that contradicts that in regard to this specific site from the outset.

For the love of heaven, Gene, please read, and respond to, what I have actually written, with the entire context of an ongoing conversation being used as the framework.  I don't make additions to a topic like this that are each meant to stand, independently, of all others.

My very first response was to take this up with customer support since the only change had been to the website.  The screen reader and browser were the same as have been used with their site's prior iteration.

My second was advising the offering of the specific institution in question, as it's really impossible to know whether anyone else may have found an accessibility method that you (the generic you) didn't, somehow.

Talking about issues like this in the abstract is as close to a complete waste of time as one can get.  I could say, I can't access the subscription management page for my local newspaper, and it would be entirely useless to discuss unless I could give the exact URL, or say something like it's a Gannett paper and uses their subscription system (as there are hundreds of papers owned and run under the Gannett name and software).

I understand the abstract concepts regarding accessibility.  They're just of little use when discussing a specific situation and whether anyone may, or may not, have discovered a workaround.  Talking about issues with accessibility without specifics makes trying to find a solution akin to trying to nail jello to a tree.
 
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I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: cannot check boxes.

Sarah k Alawami
 

This I have to agree with. I'm not a coder, but I am an end user, and I have ai believe voiced my conserns with this. I can use some stuff and even click with some stuff with OCR but it is hit and miss, more miss, at best.

On 4 Jul 2021, at 18:50, Jackie wrote:

It would be nice if OCR could be taught to recognize these
checkboxes/radio buttons as such & also their state. Doesn't seem like
that should be all that hard w/AI & all that now.

On 7/4/21, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
You disagreed with me. I responded and that’s how the discussion began. I
do ;pay attention and respond to what people say. You said this in your
initial disagreement:
“I'm sorry, but I have to disagree. While I agree it can be annoying to
find one's favorite browser does not "play well" with a given site, or that
one's favorite screen reader does not, that does not mean a site is
inaccessible.”

As I said, there is a difference between accessible and usable. And you
never defined accessible. You criticized my definition as being abstract.
Without a generally accepted and defined definition of accessibility, there
would be no standards for determining when a site is or isn’t accessible
which would pose all sorts of problems.

All I said was that the problem should be called to the attention of the
bank even if a work around is found. I said nothing about people needing or
not needing to use other browsers or screen-readers. I didn’t say everyone
who encounters any site they need to use a work around to access should
complain to the site. Nor am I saying that a site has to work properly with
every possible combination of programs. But a site like this, a banking
site, should be generally accessible.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2021 7:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] cannot check boxes.

On Sun, Jul 4, 2021 at 08:03 PM, Gene wrote:

I’m saying that, in a case like this, where a major site is not usable by
a widely used screen-reader and browser or class of browsers, that site is
not accessible.
-
And I have said nothing that contradicts that in regard to this specific
site from the outset.

For the love of heaven, Gene, please read, and respond to, what I have
actually written, with the entire context of an ongoing conversation being
used as the framework. I don't make additions to a topic like this that are
each meant to stand, independently, of all others.

My very first response was to take this up with customer support since the
only change had been to the website. The screen reader and browser were the
same as have been used with their site's prior iteration.

My second was advising the offering of the specific institution in question,
as it's really impossible to know whether anyone else may have found an
accessibility method that you (the generic you) didn't, somehow.

Talking about issues like this in the abstract is as close to a complete
waste of time as one can get. I could say, I can't access the subscription
management page for my local newspaper, and it would be entirely useless to
discuss unless I could give the exact URL, or say something like it's a
Gannett paper and uses their subscription system (as there are hundreds of
papers owned and run under the Gannett name and software).

I understand the abstract concepts regarding accessibility. They're just of
little use when discussing a specific situation and whether anyone may, or
may not, have discovered a workaround. Talking about issues with
accessibility without specifics makes trying to find a solution akin to
trying to nail jello to a tree.

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clearest indicator of who you are.

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Re: cannot check boxes.

Sarah k Alawami
 

All of your emails are abstract, and generally unhelpful. If you cannot, gean, provide any helpful info then I say get off of here and learn how to actually listen to what we are saying. You hear but you c cannot listen.

On 4 Jul 2021, at 17:48, Gene wrote:

You disagreed with me.  I responded and that’s how the discussion began.  I do ;pay attention and respond to what people say.  You said this in your initial disagreement:
“I'm sorry, but I have to disagree.  While I agree it can be annoying to find one's favorite browser does not "play well" with a given site, or that one's favorite screen reader does not, that does not mean a site is inaccessible.” 
 
As I said, there is a difference between accessible and usable.  And you never defined accessible.  You criticized my definition as being abstract.  Without a generally accepted and defined definition of accessibility, there would be no standards for determining when a site is or isn’t accessible which would pose all sorts of problems. 
 
All I said was that the problem should be called to the attention of the bank even if a work around is found.  I said nothing about people needing or not needing to use other browsers or screen-readers.  I didn’t say everyone who encounters any site they need to use a work around to access should complain to the site.  Nor am I saying that a site has to work properly with every possible combination of programs.  But a site like this, a banking site, should be generally accessible. 
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2021 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] cannot check boxes.
 
On Sun, Jul 4, 2021 at 08:03 PM, Gene wrote:
I’m saying that, in a case like this, where a major site is not usable by a widely used screen-reader and browser or class of browsers, that site is not accessible.
-
And I have said nothing that contradicts that in regard to this specific site from the outset.

For the love of heaven, Gene, please read, and respond to, what I have actually written, with the entire context of an ongoing conversation being used as the framework.  I don't make additions to a topic like this that are each meant to stand, independently, of all others.

My very first response was to take this up with customer support since the only change had been to the website.  The screen reader and browser were the same as have been used with their site's prior iteration.

My second was advising the offering of the specific institution in question, as it's really impossible to know whether anyone else may have found an accessibility method that you (the generic you) didn't, somehow.

Talking about issues like this in the abstract is as close to a complete waste of time as one can get.  I could say, I can't access the subscription management page for my local newspaper, and it would be entirely useless to discuss unless I could give the exact URL, or say something like it's a Gannett paper and uses their subscription system (as there are hundreds of papers owned and run under the Gannett name and software).

I understand the abstract concepts regarding accessibility.  They're just of little use when discussing a specific situation and whether anyone may, or may not, have discovered a workaround.  Talking about issues with accessibility without specifics makes trying to find a solution akin to trying to nail jello to a tree.
 
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I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: code factory vocalizer and eloquince addon

Chris
 

I guess that IT guys are resellers and dont actually develop the add-on them selves

 

Code factory themselves are the ones you need to contact regarding a update

 

 

From: Don H
Sent: 05 July 2021 14:33
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] code factory vocalizer and eloquince addon

 

Does anyone know when the atguys code factory nvda addon will be updated

to work with the upcoming versions of NVDA?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: NVDA 2021.1 RC2 available

Jim Noseworthy
 

Hello Folks:

 

I am not able to install the NVDARemote add-in with this latest version.

 

Cheers.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, July 05, 2021 9:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2021.1 RC2 available

 

Rowen,

 

I was going to say we can't replicate your issue here, and was going to ask if you have rebooted.

 

We can't support illegal add-ons.  If you want Eloquence, please just buy the legal version: https://codefactoryglobal.com/app-store/voices-for-nvda/

 

(I believe their add-on has been updated, they may not have updated the site yet thought).

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Mon, Jul 5, 2021 at 9:47 PM Rowen Cary <manchen_0528@...> wrote:

HI, have you installed the IBM-TTS speech synthesizer? This add-on has released a version compatible with NVDA 2021.1, but I’m crashing here https://github.com/davidacm/NVDA-IBMTTS-Driver


 

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Re: code factory vocalizer and eloquince addon

Bob Jutzi <jutzi@...>
 

Someone previously posted an update was in the works.  Since I haven't
heard anything since, I tried again directly contacting Code Factory
yesterday.

On 7/5/2021 9:33 AM, Don H wrote:
Does anyone know when the atguys code factory nvda addon will be
updated to work with the upcoming versions of NVDA?






Re: Status of Remote support addon

Andre Fisher
 

Hi.

Expect a 2.4 version to come out prior to, or certainly shortly after, NVDA 2021.1 is released.


Re: NVDA 2021.1 RC2 available

Andre Fisher
 

Hi.

No. All add-ons working quite smoothly on my end. Make sure you are indeed using the rc2 version, rather than an alpha build.


code factory vocalizer and eloquince addon

Don H
 

Does anyone know when the atguys code factory nvda addon will be updated to work with the upcoming versions of NVDA?

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