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Re: Running NVDA on a MacBook with BootCamp or similar?

Jonathan COHN
 

hello the latest mac book pro 13 inch has the M1 chip which you probably do not want based on your requirements. Every computer in my house is a macintosh and I would be glad to help you offlist in getting started with ,the Mac.
Jonathan Cohn

On Jul 9, 2021, at 6:00 PM, Luke Robinett <lukelistservs@gmail.com> wrote:

Just wanted to thank all of you for the responses. It has calmed my nerves greatly! From what I understand, this is the latest generation of MacBook Pro so I’m imagining it has the necessary hardware to run windows. If anything, maybe I’m in for a real treat and I’ll become a McIntosh fanboy after this experience. LOL. Thanks again guys

On Jul 9, 2021, at 9:02 AM, Lukasz Golonka via groups.io <lukasz.golonka=mailbox.org@groups.io> wrote:


On Thu, 8 Jul 2021 15:29:00 -0700
lukelistservs@gmail.com wrote:

I accepted a new developer job and found out today my new employer is
shipping me a MacBook Pro as my work computer. This was surprising
considering we'll be developing in C#.Net in Visual Studio, an IDE for
which I do not believe there is even a Mac version at this time.

Visual Studio for Mac exists for some time now - see here
https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/vs/mac/#vs_mac_table
I haven't used it myself but from various lists I gather it is more or
less accessible with VoiceOver

Sounds like we'll be using BootCamp or something similar. I have
zero experience with Macs and am terrified this is going to be a huge
and unexpected learning curve that will slow down my onboarding.

If you've never used Mac with VO before and it'll turn out you're indeed
required to use VS under Mac then it certainly would.

Anyway, is it possible to use NVDA in a Windows mode of Mac and does it
work just like on a real PC? One of those articles I skimmed mentioned
that the Mac doesn't have an Insert key, the default NVDA key and that
there might be some other keyboard discrepancies, but I would plan on
just connecting an external Windows-style keyboard anyway, provided that
will work. Any reassurance, tips or guidance on this would be hugely
appreciated.

I've been using Windows via \Bootcamp on my Mac for about a year without
much troubles with NVDA it was however an older model and more
importantly a desktop one.
If your Macbook is going to be an one of the recently released with an
M1 processor then you're out of luck since Windows cannot be made to run
on it natively for the time being and while virtualizing it appears to
be possible there is apparently a big lag with assistive technologies
when using it that way.
Also an external keyboard is certainly something which should be
considered since newest Mac models don't have a physical row of function
keys and while VoiceOver allows to emulate them it is impossible to do
under windows.

--
Regards
Lukasz









Re: Running NVDA on a MacBook with BootCamp or similar?

Luke Robinett
 

Just wanted to thank all of you for the responses. It has calmed my nerves greatly! From what I understand, this is the latest generation of MacBook Pro so I’m imagining it has the necessary hardware to run windows. If anything, maybe I’m in for a real treat and I’ll become a McIntosh fanboy after this experience. LOL. Thanks again guys

On Jul 9, 2021, at 9:02 AM, Lukasz Golonka via groups.io <lukasz.golonka=mailbox.org@groups.io> wrote:


On Thu, 8 Jul 2021 15:29:00 -0700
lukelistservs@gmail.com wrote:

I accepted a new developer job and found out today my new employer is
shipping me a MacBook Pro as my work computer. This was surprising
considering we'll be developing in C#.Net in Visual Studio, an IDE for
which I do not believe there is even a Mac version at this time.

Visual Studio for Mac exists for some time now - see here
https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/vs/mac/#vs_mac_table
I haven't used it myself but from various lists I gather it is more or
less accessible with VoiceOver

Sounds like we'll be using BootCamp or something similar. I have
zero experience with Macs and am terrified this is going to be a huge
and unexpected learning curve that will slow down my onboarding.

If you've never used Mac with VO before and it'll turn out you're indeed
required to use VS under Mac then it certainly would.

Anyway, is it possible to use NVDA in a Windows mode of Mac and does it
work just like on a real PC? One of those articles I skimmed mentioned
that the Mac doesn't have an Insert key, the default NVDA key and that
there might be some other keyboard discrepancies, but I would plan on
just connecting an external Windows-style keyboard anyway, provided that
will work. Any reassurance, tips or guidance on this would be hugely
appreciated.

I've been using Windows via \Bootcamp on my Mac for about a year without
much troubles with NVDA it was however an older model and more
importantly a desktop one.
If your Macbook is going to be an one of the recently released with an
M1 processor then you're out of luck since Windows cannot be made to run
on it natively for the time being and while virtualizing it appears to
be possible there is apparently a big lag with assistive technologies
when using it that way.
Also an external keyboard is certainly something which should be
considered since newest Mac models don't have a physical row of function
keys and while VoiceOver allows to emulate them it is impossible to do
under windows.

--
Regards
Lukasz






Re: Code Factory voices for nvda

Arlene
 

I don’t see why not. It should work.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Don H
Sent: July 9, 2021 7:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Code Factory voices for nvda

 

If I purchased my code factory vocalizer package from ATGuys can I still

download the NVDA addon from the code factory web site?

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Running NVDA on a MacBook with BootCamp or similar?

matthew dyer
 

Loke,  If the macbook Is an intel, you should be fine, but the Mblea than you are out of luck as bootcamp is not on the M 1 and it not supported.

 

Matthew

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of lukelistservs@...
Sent: Thursday, July 8, 2021 6:29 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Running NVDA on a MacBook with BootCamp or similar?

 

Hi,

I consulted Google before sending this but I only came across this situation for NVDA testing purposes so I don’t want to presume that information also applies to the end user experience. I accepted a new developer job and found out today my new employer is shipping me a MacBook Pro as my work computer. This was surprising considering we’ll be developing in C#.Net in Visual Studio, an IDE for which I do not believe there is even a Mac version at this time. Sounds like we’ll be using BootCamp or something similar. I have zero experience with Macs and am terrified this is going to be a huge and unexpected learning curve that will slow down my onboarding. Anyway, is it possible to use NVDA in a Windows mode of Mac and does it work just like on a real PC? One of those articles I skimmed mentioned that the Mac doesn’t have an Insert key, the default NVDA key and that there might be some other keyboard discrepancies, but I would plan on just connecting an external Windows-style keyboard anyway, provided that will work. Any reassurance, tips or guidance on this would be hugely appreciated. I’ve already resigned from my current company and will be starting the new job in two weeks so I’m kind of freaking out right now, Ha.

 

Thank you,

Luke

 


Re: DECtalk Add-on for NVDA

Roger Stewart
 

I'd like one of those as well. Someone sent me a trial version of one and it sort of worked. It made a few weird mistakes and needed work. This was several years back so it wouldn't even install in a new version of NVDA.  I still have it somewhere if there's anyone who might be able to fix it up for today's use.

Roger

On 7/9/2021 12:46 PM, Don H wrote:
Is there a legal decktalk addon that will work with the upcoming version of NVDA?





Re: Running NVDA on a MacBook with BootCamp or similar?

tim
 

Try vs code. Microsoft has ben working on that for a while.

On 7/9/2021 12:02 PM, Lukasz Golonka via groups.io wrote:
On Thu, 8 Jul 2021 15:29:00 -0700
lukelistservs@gmail.com wrote:

I accepted a new developer job and found out today my new employer is
shipping me a MacBook Pro as my work computer. This was surprising
considering we'll be developing in C#.Net in Visual Studio, an IDE for
which I do not believe there is even a Mac version at this time.

Visual Studio for Mac exists for some time now - see here
https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/vs/mac/#vs_mac_table
I haven't used it myself but from various lists I gather it is more or
less accessible with VoiceOver

Sounds like we'll be using BootCamp or something similar. I have
zero experience with Macs and am terrified this is going to be a huge
and unexpected learning curve that will slow down my onboarding.

If you've never used Mac with VO before and it'll turn out you're indeed
required to use VS under Mac then it certainly would.

Anyway, is it possible to use NVDA in a Windows mode of Mac and does it
work just like on a real PC? One of those articles I skimmed mentioned
that the Mac doesn't have an Insert key, the default NVDA key and that
there might be some other keyboard discrepancies, but I would plan on
just connecting an external Windows-style keyboard anyway, provided that
will work. Any reassurance, tips or guidance on this would be hugely
appreciated.

I've been using Windows via \Bootcamp on my Mac for about a year without
much troubles with NVDA it was however an older model and more
importantly a desktop one.
If your Macbook is going to be an one of the recently released with an
M1 processor then you're out of luck since Windows cannot be made to run
on it natively for the time being and while virtualizing it appears to
be possible there is apparently a big lag with assistive technologies
when using it that way.
Also an external keyboard is certainly something which should be
considered since newest Mac models don't have a physical row of function
keys and while VoiceOver allows to emulate them it is impossible to do
under windows.


DECtalk Add-on for NVDA

Don H
 

Is there a legal decktalk addon that will work with the upcoming version of NVDA?


Re: Compatibility updates to the "Golden Cursor" add-on will not be provided

 

HI all,

To clarify: although I'm listed as the last maintainer of Golden Cursor, I viewed myself as maintaining it on behalf of the NVDA community (the add-on wasn't developed by me originally) as the community lost contact with the original add-on developer. Since I stopped maintaining this add-on in early 2020, coupled with life changes I'm about to go through, I won't be able to maintain Golden Cursor again i.e. no compatibility update plans (sorry).

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Running NVDA on a MacBook with BootCamp or similar?

Guy Schlosser
 

Hey Luke, as long as your Mac is an Intel-based Mac, you will have no problem running NVDA with windows 10 on BootCamp. Although my primary screenreader of choice is jaws, I am familiar with NVDA, and do follow this list. I think you’ll find that most max running on Boot Camp run better than most Windows PC‘s. your NVDA modifier can be said to caps, and you can also use an external keyboard if you need to. If you have any questions, or need a little assistance, you are more than welcome to mail me off list.

Guy

On Jul 9, 2021, at 12:31 AM, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:



Hmph interesting.

Obviously your work spares no expence, macs are powerhhouses.

However, maybe ask them nicely if you can please use a standard pc instead unless of course they want to develop on macs.

If not ask them to buy vmware workstation and run that or the playeror fusion or something but really you probably will want a windows pc.



On 9/07/2021 10:29 am, lukelistservs@... wrote:

Hi,

I consulted Google before sending this but I only came across this situation for NVDA testing purposes so I don’t want to presume that information also applies to the end user experience. I accepted a new developer job and found out today my new employer is shipping me a MacBook Pro as my work computer. This was surprising considering we’ll be developing in C#.Net in Visual Studio, an IDE for which I do not believe there is even a Mac version at this time. Sounds like we’ll be using BootCamp or something similar. I have zero experience with Macs and am terrified this is going to be a huge and unexpected learning curve that will slow down my onboarding. Anyway, is it possible to use NVDA in a Windows mode of Mac and does it work just like on a real PC? One of those articles I skimmed mentioned that the Mac doesn’t have an Insert key, the default NVDA key and that there might be some other keyboard discrepancies, but I would plan on just connecting an external Windows-style keyboard anyway, provided that will work. Any reassurance, tips or guidance on this would be hugely appreciated. I’ve already resigned from my current company and will be starting the new job in two weeks so I’m kind of freaking out right now, Ha.

 

Thank you,

Luke

 


Re: Running NVDA on a MacBook with BootCamp or similar?

Lukasz Golonka
 

On Thu, 8 Jul 2021 15:29:00 -0700
lukelistservs@gmail.com wrote:

I accepted a new developer job and found out today my new employer is
shipping me a MacBook Pro as my work computer. This was surprising
considering we'll be developing in C#.Net in Visual Studio, an IDE for
which I do not believe there is even a Mac version at this time.

Visual Studio for Mac exists for some time now - see here
https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/vs/mac/#vs_mac_table
I haven't used it myself but from various lists I gather it is more or
less accessible with VoiceOver

Sounds like we'll be using BootCamp or something similar. I have
zero experience with Macs and am terrified this is going to be a huge
and unexpected learning curve that will slow down my onboarding.

If you've never used Mac with VO before and it'll turn out you're indeed
required to use VS under Mac then it certainly would.

Anyway, is it possible to use NVDA in a Windows mode of Mac and does it
work just like on a real PC? One of those articles I skimmed mentioned
that the Mac doesn't have an Insert key, the default NVDA key and that
there might be some other keyboard discrepancies, but I would plan on
just connecting an external Windows-style keyboard anyway, provided that
will work. Any reassurance, tips or guidance on this would be hugely
appreciated.

I've been using Windows via \Bootcamp on my Mac for about a year without
much troubles with NVDA it was however an older model and more
importantly a desktop one.
If your Macbook is going to be an one of the recently released with an
M1 processor then you're out of luck since Windows cannot be made to run
on it natively for the time being and while virtualizing it appears to
be possible there is apparently a big lag with assistive technologies
when using it that way.
Also an external keyboard is certainly something which should be
considered since newest Mac models don't have a physical row of function
keys and while VoiceOver allows to emulate them it is impossible to do
under windows.

--
Regards
Lukasz


Re: object enhancer addon

Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...>
 

it is more like a combination of a jaws graphics labeler, button labeler, and jaws windows reclasser and customizer all rolled into one thing.


Re: Compatibility updates to the "Golden Cursor" add-on will not be provided

Rowen Cary
 

In other words, will the add-on not be updated for compatibility?


Re: Code Factory voices for nvda

Bob Jutzi
 

Yes.  I just downloaded the add-on yesterday, entered my key from AT
Guys, with no issues.

On 7/9/2021 10:21 AM, Don H wrote:
If I purchased my code factory vocalizer package from ATGuys can I
still download the NVDA addon from the code factory web site?





Determining Which Add-Ons Work With NVDA

brice Mijares
 

Is there a dedicated page for working ad on's for the current version of NVDA? thank you.


Code Factory voices for nvda

Don H
 

If I purchased my code factory vocalizer package from ATGuys can I still download the NVDA addon from the code factory web site?


Re: Looks like Code Factory has updated their voices to support NVDA 2021.1

Joseph Norton
 

Hi listers:

 

Here are 2 links:

 

The information page about the addon is:

 

https://codefactoryglobal.com/app-store/voices-for-nvda/#

 

Now, the direct download link, which it says is a new version for 2021.1 is:

 

https://www.codefactoryglobal.com/downloads/installers/codefactory-py3-1.0.nvda-addon

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Friday, July 9, 2021 9:04 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Looks like Code Factory has updated their voices to support NVDA 2021.1

 

But where does one download this from? A link wasn't provided.

 

Gera

Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

 

> El 9 jul 2021, a la(s) 3:58 a.m., Socheat <socheat.mt.lc@...> escribió:

>

> Hi list,

>

> Just in case some of you may not be aware, CF has already put up the latest driver for their voices to support NVDA 2021.1.

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Looks like Code Factory has updated their voices to support NVDA 2021.1

Gerardo Corripio
 

But where does one download this from? A link wasn't provided.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

El 9 jul 2021, a la(s) 3:58 a.m., Socheat <socheat.mt.lc@gmail.com> escribió:

Hi list,

Just in case some of you may not be aware, CF has already put up the latest driver for their voices to support NVDA 2021.1.






Looks like Code Factory has updated their voices to support NVDA 2021.1

Socheat
 

Hi list,

Just in case some of you may not be aware, CF has already put up the latest driver for their voices to support NVDA 2021.1.


An interesting occurrance when selecting text

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

I just discovered that while I have Foobar2000 open I cannot select text in a file or filename using (ctrl+shift+right or left arrow).


Compatibility updates to the "Golden Cursor" add-on will not be provided

Louise Pfau
 

Hi.  I’ve obtained Joseph’s permission to post to the list regarding the compatibility status of the “Golden cursor” add-on.  I contacted him to enquire about the compatibility status of the “Golden Cursor” add-on prior to the release of NVDA 2021.1, and he informed me that he will not be providing compatibility updates.  I may have caused some confusion, because I thought he was the main add-on developer, for which I appologize.
 
Louise

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