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Re: DECtalk Add-on for NVDA

Roger Stewart
 

There are USB to serial adapters though that will allow them to work if there were a driver for it.

Roger








On 7/11/2021 3:29 PM, Arlene wrote:

Oh yes they were. That’s why  Iam glad my dectalk express bit the dust. It was driven by a serial port. These newer computers do not have support for those kinds of things. That’s why I’m truly glad my dectalk express died. For that reason I do not want to go back to it as much as I liked it.   

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Howard Traxler
Sent: July 11, 2021 9:11 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] decktalk addon for nvda

 

Those old DECtalks were pretty big and were driven from a serial port

(RS232).  I have five of them that I have not tried with NVDA yet.  If

anyone would like one (or a couple) let me know,  We could come to a deal.

 

Howard

 

 

On 7/11/2021 3:34 AM, Ian Blackburn wrote:

> The  deck talk that sounded the best  was the one that was about as big as a flatbed scanner Version two it was

> On 11 Jul 2021, at 4:30 pm, Ian Blackburn <ianblackburn@...> wrote:

> The hardware dick talk is USB driven it sounds okay but I haven’t used one for at least 10 or 11 years

> On 11 Jul 2021, at 4:24 pm, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

> I am using dectalk with NVDA 20000-4

> and hopefully the add-on will be updated. Seems it was legal when I got it.

> Curtis Delzer

> HS

> K 6 V F O

> Rialto, CA

> curtis@...

> On 7/10/2021 12:33 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

>> I also like decktalk and eloquence, I would pay for a decktlak add on if one existed as well.

>> *From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Micallef Michael at FITA

>> *Sent:* Friday, July 9, 2021 7:07 PM

>> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io

>> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] decktalk addon for nvda

>> I agree with Gene 100% the only dectalk version that is available is a hardware based in a usb versio, and its not cheap and because I never heard it I don’t know about its speech quality compared with the dectalk of the venerable window-eyes.

>> *From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Gene via groups.io

>> *Sent:* Saturday, 10 July 2021 02:01

>> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

>> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] decktalk addon for nvda

>> CAUTION:This email originated from OUTSIDE the Government Email Infrastructure. DO NOT CLICK LINKS or OPEN attachments unless you recognise the sender and know the content is safe.

>> As far as I know, there is no legal Dectalk add-on at least not one that sounds at all like what would be expected.  I don’t know if it is possible to purchase Dectalk as a stand alone synthesizer, such as a SAPI 5 synthesizer, but I’ve never heard of that either.

>> You may be able to get more information about the legal ability to purchase Dectalk with a search but I’ve been on this list since the rather early days of NVDA, and I think there would have been information on the list before this if there were a legal add-on, and a legal way to ;purchase Dectalk, at least at anything like a reasonable price, given the interest in Dectalk.

>> Years ago, someone who worked with Dectalk provided a legal version of Dectalk but it was evidently very old and it sounded very different than the Dectalk people expect.

>> Gene

>> -----Original Message-----

>> *From:*Josh Kennedy <mailto:joshknnd1982@...>

>> *Sent:*Friday, July 09, 2021 6:42 PM

>> *To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

>> *Subject:*Re: [nvda] decktalk addon for nvda

>> I would like a decTalk addon that works with NVDA2021.1 as well, but I prefer decTalk 4.41 through 4.6.

>

 

 

 

 

 

 



Re: DECtalk Add-on for NVDA

Arlene
 

Oh yes they were. That’s why  Iam glad my dectalk express bit the dust. It was driven by a serial port. These newer computers do not have support for those kinds of things. That’s why I’m truly glad my dectalk express died. For that reason I do not want to go back to it as much as I liked it.   

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Howard Traxler
Sent: July 11, 2021 9:11 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] decktalk addon for nvda

 

Those old DECtalks were pretty big and were driven from a serial port

(RS232).  I have five of them that I have not tried with NVDA yet.  If

anyone would like one (or a couple) let me know,  We could come to a deal.

 

Howard

 

 

On 7/11/2021 3:34 AM, Ian Blackburn wrote:

> The  deck talk that sounded the best  was the one that was about as big as a flatbed scanner Version two it was

> On 11 Jul 2021, at 4:30 pm, Ian Blackburn <ianblackburn@...> wrote:

> The hardware dick talk is USB driven it sounds okay but I haven’t used one for at least 10 or 11 years

> On 11 Jul 2021, at 4:24 pm, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

> I am using dectalk with NVDA 20000-4

> and hopefully the add-on will be updated. Seems it was legal when I got it.

> Curtis Delzer

> HS

> K 6 V F O

> Rialto, CA

> curtis@...

> On 7/10/2021 12:33 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

>> I also like decktalk and eloquence, I would pay for a decktlak add on if one existed as well.

>> *From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Micallef Michael at FITA

>> *Sent:* Friday, July 9, 2021 7:07 PM

>> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io

>> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] decktalk addon for nvda

>> I agree with Gene 100% the only dectalk version that is available is a hardware based in a usb versio, and its not cheap and because I never heard it I don’t know about its speech quality compared with the dectalk of the venerable window-eyes.

>> *From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Gene via groups.io

>> *Sent:* Saturday, 10 July 2021 02:01

>> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

>> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] decktalk addon for nvda

>> CAUTION:This email originated from OUTSIDE the Government Email Infrastructure. DO NOT CLICK LINKS or OPEN attachments unless you recognise the sender and know the content is safe.

>> As far as I know, there is no legal Dectalk add-on at least not one that sounds at all like what would be expected.  I don’t know if it is possible to purchase Dectalk as a stand alone synthesizer, such as a SAPI 5 synthesizer, but I’ve never heard of that either.

>> You may be able to get more information about the legal ability to purchase Dectalk with a search but I’ve been on this list since the rather early days of NVDA, and I think there would have been information on the list before this if there were a legal add-on, and a legal way to ;purchase Dectalk, at least at anything like a reasonable price, given the interest in Dectalk.

>> Years ago, someone who worked with Dectalk provided a legal version of Dectalk but it was evidently very old and it sounded very different than the Dectalk people expect.

>> Gene

>> -----Original Message-----

>> *From:*Josh Kennedy <mailto:joshknnd1982@...>

>> *Sent:*Friday, July 09, 2021 6:42 PM

>> *To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

>> *Subject:*Re: [nvda] decktalk addon for nvda

>> I would like a decTalk addon that works with NVDA2021.1 as well, but I prefer decTalk 4.41 through 4.6.

>

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: DECtalk Add-on for NVDA

Arlene
 

Boy! I thought Dectalk was a thing of the past.   I haven’t used  it after my dectalk express bit the dust.  It died 12 years ago.  I haven’t used any dectalk synth since then. I’m glad its still around for those who like it.  I don’t think I’ll go back to it.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Curtis Delzer
Sent: July 11, 2021 1:24 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] decktalk addon for nvda

 

I am using dectalk with NVDA 20000-4

and hopefully the add-on will be updated. Seems it was legal when I got it.

 

Curtis Delzer

HS

K 6 V F O

Rialto, CA

 

curtis@...

 

On 7/10/2021 12:33 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

> I also like decktalk and eloquence, I would pay for a decktlak add on if

> one existed as well.

>

> *From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Micallef

> Michael at FITA

> *Sent:* Friday, July 9, 2021 7:07 PM

> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io

> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] decktalk addon for nvda

>

> I agree with Gene 100% the only dectalk version that is available is a

> hardware based in a usb versio, and its not cheap and because I never

> heard it I don’t know about its speech quality compared with the dectalk

> of the venerable window-eyes.

>

> *From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Gene

> via groups.io

> *Sent:* Saturday, 10 July 2021 02:01

> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] decktalk addon for nvda

>

> CAUTION:This email originated from OUTSIDE the Government Email

> Infrastructure. DO NOT CLICK LINKS or OPEN attachments unless you

> recognise the sender and know the content is safe.

>

> As far as I know, there is no legal Dectalk add-on at least not one that

> sounds at all like what would be expected.  I don’t know if it is

> possible to purchase Dectalk as a stand alone synthesizer, such as a

> SAPI 5 synthesizer, but I’ve never heard of that either.

>

> You may be able to get more information about the legal ability to

> purchase Dectalk with a search but I’ve been on this list since the

> rather early days of NVDA, and I think there would have been information

> on the list before this if there were a legal add-on, and a legal way to

> ;purchase Dectalk, at least at anything like a reasonable price, given

> the interest in Dectalk.

>

> Years ago, someone who worked with Dectalk provided a legal version of

> Dectalk but it was evidently very old and it sounded very different than

> the Dectalk people expect.

>

> Gene

>

> -----Original Message-----

>

> *From:*Josh Kennedy <mailto:joshknnd1982@...>

>

> *Sent:*Friday, July 09, 2021 6:42 PM

>

> *To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

>

> *Subject:*Re: [nvda] decktalk addon for nvda

>

> I would like a decTalk addon that works with NVDA2021.1 as well, but I

> prefer decTalk 4.41 through 4.6.

>

>

 

 

 

 

 


Re: DECtalk Add-on for NVDA

simon wheatcroft
 

Hi,

I tested with an external keyboard and the control + alt behaviour persisted. I put it down to an issue within the ARM insiders build.

The link i provided a few messages ago goes into depth about why windows has this feature now and that it can’t be turned off.

As another data point, i have a Microsoft surface too running standard windows 10. The control + alt behaviour does not exist on that machine. I am sure there is an explenation to it all, but i found the keyboard layout creation tool solved it for the insiders build.

I have my fingers crossed that in Windows 11 ARM edition there is no need for the remapping f keys.


On 11 Jul 2021, at 17:27, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:


I don’t see how you can try them with NVDA unless you find a way that NVDA can drive the unit.  You would need some sort of add-on for that to be possible or for some sort of Dectalk driver that works with whatever external unit you are using to be incorporated into NVDA as a speech option.
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2021 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] decktalk addon for nvda
 
Those old DECtalks were pretty big and were driven from a serial port
(RS232).  I have five of them that I have not tried with NVDA yet.  If
anyone would like one (or a couple) let me know,  We could come to a deal.

Howard


On 7/11/2021 3:34 AM, Ian Blackburn wrote:
> The  deck talk that sounded the best  was the one that was about as big as a flatbed scanner Version two it was
> On 11 Jul 2021, at 4:30 pm, Ian Blackburn <ianblackburn@...> wrote:
>
> The hardware dick talk is USB driven it sounds okay but I haven’t used one for at least 10 or 11 years
> On 11 Jul 2021, at 4:24 pm, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:
>
> I am using dectalk with NVDA 20000-4
> and hopefully the add-on will be updated. Seems it was legal when I got it.
>
> Curtis Delzer
> HS
> K 6 V F O
> Rialto, CA
>
> curtis@...
>
> On 7/10/2021 12:33 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
>> I also like decktalk and eloquence, I would pay for a decktlak add on if one existed as well.
>> *From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Micallef Michael at FITA
>> *Sent:* Friday, July 9, 2021 7:07 PM
>> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] decktalk addon for nvda
>> I agree with Gene 100% the only dectalk version that is available is a hardware based in a usb versio, and its not cheap and because I never heard it I don’t know about its speech quality compared with the dectalk of the venerable window-eyes.
>> *From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Gene via groups.io
>> *Sent:* Saturday, 10 July 2021 02:01
>> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] decktalk addon for nvda
>> CAUTION:This email originated from OUTSIDE the Government Email Infrastructure. DO NOT CLICK LINKS or OPEN attachments unless you recognise the sender and know the content is safe.
>> As far as I know, there is no legal Dectalk add-on at least not one that sounds at all like what would be expected.  I don’t know if it is possible to purchase Dectalk as a stand alone synthesizer, such as a SAPI 5 synthesizer, but I’ve never heard of that either.
>> You may be able to get more information about the legal ability to purchase Dectalk with a search but I’ve been on this list since the rather early days of NVDA, and I think there would have been information on the list before this if there were a legal add-on, and a legal way to ;purchase Dectalk, at least at anything like a reasonable price, given the interest in Dectalk.
>> Years ago, someone who worked with Dectalk provided a legal version of Dectalk but it was evidently very old and it sounded very different than the Dectalk people expect.
>> Gene
>> -----Original Message-----
>> *From:*Josh Kennedy <mailto:joshknnd1982@...>
>> *Sent:*Friday, July 09, 2021 6:42 PM
>> *To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> *Subject:*Re: [nvda] decktalk addon for nvda
>> I would like a decTalk addon that works with NVDA2021.1 as well, but I prefer decTalk 4.41 through 4.6.
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Re: sending a file through NVDA remote

Richard Wells
 

You could certainly push a link from Dropbox or other file transfer services. That is how I do it.

On 7/11/2021 3:58 AM, Gene wrote:
I haven’t used remote connection but this appears to mean that you can exchange text, written material, but not files.  You can exchange text, but not a file containing text.
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2021 3:51 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] sending a file through NVDA remote
 

what do you mean about files?

On 10/07/2021 18:39, Chris Mullins wrote:

 

Hi

You can’t send files via NVDA remote, you can only push/pull  text between connected machines.

 

Cheers

Chris

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: 10 July 2021 18:15
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] sending a file through NVDA remote

 

Hi,

I have successfully pushed my clipboard to someone's computer that I was controlling via NVDA remote, but now I want to send a file.

I went into remote and copied the link and send, and I don't know if it went, or if it did, where it went to on the other computer.

Thanks.

 

Glenn

 

--
Thanks for your time in advance.
😎
Later
A.Mac
[all out going mail is scanned by Avira]


Re: sending a file through NVDA remote

Sarah k Alawami
 

Files, as in, text files, or an mp3 or png file, so only text and not files can be pushed through nvda remote.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of A.Mac via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2021 1:51 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] sending a file through NVDA remote

 

what do you mean about files?

On 10/07/2021 18:39, Chris Mullins wrote:

 

Hi

You can’t send files via NVDA remote, you can only push/pull  text between connected machines.

 

Cheers

Chris

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: 10 July 2021 18:15
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] sending a file through NVDA remote

 

Hi,

I have successfully pushed my clipboard to someone's computer that I was controlling via NVDA remote, but now I want to send a file.

I went into remote and copied the link and send, and I don't know if it went, or if it did, where it went to on the other computer.

Thanks.

 

Glenn

 

-- 
Thanks for your time in advance.
😎
Later
A.Mac
[all out going mail is scanned by Avira]


Re: DECtalk Add-on for NVDA

Gene
 

I don’t see how you can try them with NVDA unless you find a way that NVDA can drive the unit.  You would need some sort of add-on for that to be possible or for some sort of Dectalk driver that works with whatever external unit you are using to be incorporated into NVDA as a speech option.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2021 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] decktalk addon for nvda
 
Those old DECtalks were pretty big and were driven from a serial port
(RS232).  I have five of them that I have not tried with NVDA yet.  If
anyone would like one (or a couple) let me know,  We could come to a deal.

Howard


On 7/11/2021 3:34 AM, Ian Blackburn wrote:
> The  deck talk that sounded the best  was the one that was about as big as a flatbed scanner Version two it was
> On 11 Jul 2021, at 4:30 pm, Ian Blackburn <ianblackburn@...> wrote:
>
> The hardware dick talk is USB driven it sounds okay but I haven’t used one for at least 10 or 11 years
> On 11 Jul 2021, at 4:24 pm, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:
>
> I am using dectalk with NVDA 20000-4
> and hopefully the add-on will be updated. Seems it was legal when I got it.
>
> Curtis Delzer
> HS
> K 6 V F O
> Rialto, CA
>
> curtis@...
>
> On 7/10/2021 12:33 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
>> I also like decktalk and eloquence, I would pay for a decktlak add on if one existed as well.
>> *From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Micallef Michael at FITA
>> *Sent:* Friday, July 9, 2021 7:07 PM
>> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] decktalk addon for nvda
>> I agree with Gene 100% the only dectalk version that is available is a hardware based in a usb versio, and its not cheap and because I never heard it I don’t know about its speech quality compared with the dectalk of the venerable window-eyes.
>> *From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Gene via groups.io
>> *Sent:* Saturday, 10 July 2021 02:01
>> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] decktalk addon for nvda
>> CAUTION:This email originated from OUTSIDE the Government Email Infrastructure. DO NOT CLICK LINKS or OPEN attachments unless you recognise the sender and know the content is safe.
>> As far as I know, there is no legal Dectalk add-on at least not one that sounds at all like what would be expected.  I don’t know if it is possible to purchase Dectalk as a stand alone synthesizer, such as a SAPI 5 synthesizer, but I’ve never heard of that either.
>> You may be able to get more information about the legal ability to purchase Dectalk with a search but I’ve been on this list since the rather early days of NVDA, and I think there would have been information on the list before this if there were a legal add-on, and a legal way to ;purchase Dectalk, at least at anything like a reasonable price, given the interest in Dectalk.
>> Years ago, someone who worked with Dectalk provided a legal version of Dectalk but it was evidently very old and it sounded very different than the Dectalk people expect.
>> Gene
>> -----Original Message-----
>> *From:*Josh Kennedy <mailto:joshknnd1982@...>
>> *Sent:*Friday, July 09, 2021 6:42 PM
>> *To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> *Subject:*Re: [nvda] decktalk addon for nvda
>> I would like a decTalk addon that works with NVDA2021.1 as well, but I prefer decTalk 4.41 through 4.6.
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Re: DECtalk Add-on for NVDA

Roger Stewart
 

I have an old DecTalk unit as well. I just need a driver add-on for nvda to use it.

Roger

On 7/11/2021 11:11 AM, Howard Traxler wrote:
Those old DECtalks were pretty big and were driven from a serial port (RS232).  I have five of them that I have not tried with NVDA yet.  If anyone would like one (or a couple) let me know,  We could come to a deal.

Howard


On 7/11/2021 3:34 AM, Ian Blackburn wrote:
The  deck talk that sounded the best  was the one that was about as big as a flatbed scanner Version two it was
On 11 Jul 2021, at 4:30 pm, Ian Blackburn <ianblackburn@...> wrote:

The hardware dick talk is USB driven it sounds okay but I haven’t used one for at least 10 or 11 years
On 11 Jul 2021, at 4:24 pm, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

I am using dectalk with NVDA 20000-4
and hopefully the add-on will be updated. Seems it was legal when I got it.

Curtis Delzer
HS
K 6 V F O
Rialto, CA

curtis@...

On 7/10/2021 12:33 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
I also like decktalk and eloquence, I would pay for a decktlak add on if one existed as well.
*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Micallef Michael at FITA
*Sent:* Friday, July 9, 2021 7:07 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] decktalk addon for nvda
I agree with Gene 100% the only dectalk version that is available is a hardware based in a usb versio, and its not cheap and because I never heard it I don’t know about its speech quality compared with the dectalk of the venerable window-eyes.
*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Gene via groups.io
*Sent:* Saturday, 10 July 2021 02:01
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] decktalk addon for nvda
CAUTION:This email originated from OUTSIDE the Government Email Infrastructure. DO NOT CLICK LINKS or OPEN attachments unless you recognise the sender and know the content is safe.
As far as I know, there is no legal Dectalk add-on at least not one that sounds at all like what would be expected.  I don’t know if it is possible to purchase Dectalk as a stand alone synthesizer, such as a SAPI 5 synthesizer, but I’ve never heard of that either.
You may be able to get more information about the legal ability to purchase Dectalk with a search but I’ve been on this list since the rather early days of NVDA, and I think there would have been information on the list before this if there were a legal add-on, and a legal way to ;purchase Dectalk, at least at anything like a reasonable price, given the interest in Dectalk.
Years ago, someone who worked with Dectalk provided a legal version of Dectalk but it was evidently very old and it sounded very different than the Dectalk people expect.
Gene
-----Original Message-----
*From:*Josh Kennedy <mailto:joshknnd1982@...>
*Sent:*Friday, July 09, 2021 6:42 PM
*To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:*Re: [nvda] decktalk addon for nvda
I would like a decTalk addon that works with NVDA2021.1 as well, but I prefer decTalk 4.41 through 4.6.


















Re: DECtalk Add-on for NVDA

Howard Traxler
 

Those old DECtalks were pretty big and were driven from a serial port (RS232).  I have five of them that I have not tried with NVDA yet.  If anyone would like one (or a couple) let me know,  We could come to a deal.

Howard

On 7/11/2021 3:34 AM, Ian Blackburn wrote:
The deck talk that sounded the best was the one that was about as big as a flatbed scanner Version two it was
On 11 Jul 2021, at 4:30 pm, Ian Blackburn <ianblackburn@...> wrote:

The hardware dick talk is USB driven it sounds okay but I haven’t used one for at least 10 or 11 years
On 11 Jul 2021, at 4:24 pm, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

I am using dectalk with NVDA 20000-4
and hopefully the add-on will be updated. Seems it was legal when I got it.

Curtis Delzer
HS
K 6 V F O
Rialto, CA

curtis@...

On 7/10/2021 12:33 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
I also like decktalk and eloquence, I would pay for a decktlak add on if one existed as well.
*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Micallef Michael at FITA
*Sent:* Friday, July 9, 2021 7:07 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] decktalk addon for nvda
I agree with Gene 100% the only dectalk version that is available is a hardware based in a usb versio, and its not cheap and because I never heard it I don’t know about its speech quality compared with the dectalk of the venerable window-eyes.
*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Gene via groups.io
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*Subject:* Re: [nvda] decktalk addon for nvda
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As far as I know, there is no legal Dectalk add-on at least not one that sounds at all like what would be expected. I don’t know if it is possible to purchase Dectalk as a stand alone synthesizer, such as a SAPI 5 synthesizer, but I’ve never heard of that either.
You may be able to get more information about the legal ability to purchase Dectalk with a search but I’ve been on this list since the rather early days of NVDA, and I think there would have been information on the list before this if there were a legal add-on, and a legal way to ;purchase Dectalk, at least at anything like a reasonable price, given the interest in Dectalk.
Years ago, someone who worked with Dectalk provided a legal version of Dectalk but it was evidently very old and it sounded very different than the Dectalk people expect.
Gene
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*From:*Josh Kennedy <mailto:joshknnd1982@...>
*Sent:*Friday, July 09, 2021 6:42 PM
*To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:*Re: [nvda] decktalk addon for nvda
I would like a decTalk addon that works with NVDA2021.1 as well, but I prefer decTalk 4.41 through 4.6.














Re: Running NVDA on a MacBook with BootCamp or similar?

Jason White
 

I've used an external, PC-style USB keyboard with my Mac, but not recently. I don't run Windows on the Mac, so I can't comment on that issue.

If I remember correctly, the Windows key was mapped to the Command key, and the Alt key to the Option key, which is the reverse of their placement on a proper Mac keyboard. If you were running Windows (e.g., with Bootcamp or with virtualization), I would expect the keys to function as on a Windows machine when using an external keyboard.

On 8/7/21 6:29 pm, lukelistservs@... wrote:

Hi,

I consulted Google before sending this but I only came across this situation for NVDA testing purposes so I don’t want to presume that information also applies to the end user experience. I accepted a new developer job and found out today my new employer is shipping me a MacBook Pro as my work computer. This was surprising considering we’ll be developing in C#.Net in Visual Studio, an IDE for which I do not believe there is even a Mac version at this time. Sounds like we’ll be using BootCamp or something similar. I have zero experience with Macs and am terrified this is going to be a huge and unexpected learning curve that will slow down my onboarding. Anyway, is it possible to use NVDA in a Windows mode of Mac and does it work just like on a real PC? One of those articles I skimmed mentioned that the Mac doesn’t have an Insert key, the default NVDA key and that there might be some other keyboard discrepancies, but I would plan on just connecting an external Windows-style keyboard anyway, provided that will work. Any reassurance, tips or guidance on this would be hugely appreciated. I’ve already resigned from my current company and will be starting the new job in two weeks so I’m kind of freaking out right now, Ha.

 

Thank you,

Luke

 


Re: Running NVDA on a MacBook with BootCamp or similar?

David Griffith
 

 

Ah I did not know that about the current limitation of VMWare Fusion.

Thanks for updating me.

It is interesting parallels  can support but not VMWare Fusion.

I think I also remember other Mac Windows/NVDA users saying that if you can only get over the accessibility hurdle then parallels was the better product.

David Griffith

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: simon wheatcroft
Sent: 11 July 2021 13:16
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Running NVDA on a MacBook with BootCamp or similar?

 

Hi,

 

Unfortunately, VMWare currently does not support Apple Silicon. So parallels is the only way. Sighted assistance is only needed during the initial installation.

 

Of course with Windows 11 having ARM support all this may change in the not so distant future



On 11 Jul 2021, at 10:58, David Griffith <daj.griffith@...> wrote:



I don’t run Windows on a Mac nowadays leaving NVDA for my Windows machines but when I did  a couple of years ago I was able to do this without sighted help. I hope that this is still the current situation.

The key  step then was to use VMWare Fusion rather than Parallels as your  virtual machine client which allowed a Voiceover accessible installation of Windows as  your Virtual Machine.

Then, as you say, you can use Narrator to download NVDA or, in my case I simply used a portable version of NVDA to get me going.

In terms of remapping keys I personally found this very easy using the free Sharp  Keys utility under Windows and did not use any Mac utility, leaving keys under the Mac side untouched.

For myself I also used this Sharp keys utility to remap the alt gr key to a right windows keys so I had left and right windows keys.

I hope this accessible path to windows install on the Mac situation is still current but cannot check it or provide current step by step as I have abandoned using Windows under a Mac preferring to keep 2 machines. I found too many problems using virtual windows on the Mac side, particularly with hardware support for specialist devices. For example my EyePal Scanner would never work under Mac Virtual Windows and needed a real Windows machine to hook into.

 

David Griffith.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: simon wheatcroft
Sent: 11 July 2021 08:08
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Running NVDA on a MacBook with BootCamp or similar?

 

Hi,

 

As we appear to have the green light of this not being off topic. Here is a rough outline of how you can get windows 10 insiders build working on an M1 under parallels.

 

You will need sighted assistance for this bit as parallels does not work with VO, but follow this guide to get up and running:

 

https://9to5mac.com/2020/12/22/run-windows-10-arm-m1-mac-apple-silicon-x64-x86-no-boot-camp-video/

 

Once running use narrator to download the latest version of NVDA.

 

 

This will give you a basic working install.

 

THings that will be missing:

1. The NVDA key as VO will grab it - i personally re-map the key above tab to insert. I do this under MacOS using:

 

https://ke-complex-modifications.pqrs.org

 

2. The other issue you may have is control+alt keyboard shortcuts not working. These will work under some apps for example, Microsoft Word and some Windows keyboard shortcuts. If this is enough for you then ignore this bit. If its not…

 

Download - https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/906c31e4-d5ea-7988-cb39-7b688880d7cb

 

You will now need to create your own custom keyboard layout. You will need to remove all the alt-gr and control-alt mappings to get all your control-alt shortcuts working. 

 

Then once you have done this you build that version of the keyboard and select it. It builds it as an .exe and should then show up as a keyboard option once installed. Note you may need to remove the other keyboards at this point to get all shortcuts working.

 

You can follow this guide:

 

https://superuser.com/questions/592970/can-i-make-ctrlalt-not-act-like-altgr-on-windows

 

Ignore all the stuff about auto hotkey you are after the remapping with the keyboard layout creator.

 

I do have the keyboard layout as the .exe for a MBA with a US layout. If you require that instead of making it yourself let me know and i can send it through.

 

As a prior comment said it is these keymappings that take the real effort. But once that is done you have the keyboard layout forever. With Windows 11 just around the corner and it having ARM support this guide to get it working should hopefully, work on that too and be super useful for MacOS users.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 




On 10 Jul 2021, at 23:59, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

On Sat, Jul 10, 2021 at 03:24 PM, Jonathan COHN wrote:

Your reply is totally useless as is. AND THIS TOPIC is pretty much not about NVDA att so should be discontinued.

-
Moderator's Note:  No, my dear sir, but yours is, and it's belligerent as well, and I know which I find more offensive:  open belligerence.

Things have now been explained, but even before they were it's clear that someone has to learn how to deal with snark.  Snark as a way of expressing incredulity is common and appropriate at times.

I have no problem with heated disagreements on merit, and I also think that asking whether NVDA can run under Bootcamp is absolutely "about NVDA."  So this topic isn't about to be locked, at least not yet.

There's almost certain to be someone at some point in the future who wonders about how/whether NVDA can be run under Bootcamp on a Mac and this topic gives useful information in that regard.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 

 

 


Re: Running NVDA on a MacBook with BootCamp or similar?

simon wheatcroft
 

Hi,

Unfortunately, VMWare currently does not support Apple Silicon. So parallels is the only way. Sighted assistance is only needed during the initial installation.

Of course with Windows 11 having ARM support all this may change in the not so distant future


On 11 Jul 2021, at 10:58, David Griffith <daj.griffith@...> wrote:



I don’t run Windows on a Mac nowadays leaving NVDA for my Windows machines but when I did  a couple of years ago I was able to do this without sighted help. I hope that this is still the current situation.

The key  step then was to use VMWare Fusion rather than Parallels as your  virtual machine client which allowed a Voiceover accessible installation of Windows as  your Virtual Machine.

Then, as you say, you can use Narrator to download NVDA or, in my case I simply used a portable version of NVDA to get me going.

In terms of remapping keys I personally found this very easy using the free Sharp  Keys utility under Windows and did not use any Mac utility, leaving keys under the Mac side untouched.

For myself I also used this Sharp keys utility to remap the alt gr key to a right windows keys so I had left and right windows keys.

I hope this accessible path to windows install on the Mac situation is still current but cannot check it or provide current step by step as I have abandoned using Windows under a Mac preferring to keep 2 machines. I found too many problems using virtual windows on the Mac side, particularly with hardware support for specialist devices. For example my EyePal Scanner would never work under Mac Virtual Windows and needed a real Windows machine to hook into.

 

David Griffith.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: simon wheatcroft
Sent: 11 July 2021 08:08
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Running NVDA on a MacBook with BootCamp or similar?

 

Hi,

 

As we appear to have the green light of this not being off topic. Here is a rough outline of how you can get windows 10 insiders build working on an M1 under parallels.

 

You will need sighted assistance for this bit as parallels does not work with VO, but follow this guide to get up and running:

 

https://9to5mac.com/2020/12/22/run-windows-10-arm-m1-mac-apple-silicon-x64-x86-no-boot-camp-video/

 

Once running use narrator to download the latest version of NVDA.

 

 

This will give you a basic working install.

 

THings that will be missing:

1. The NVDA key as VO will grab it - i personally re-map the key above tab to insert. I do this under MacOS using:

 

https://ke-complex-modifications.pqrs.org

 

2. The other issue you may have is control+alt keyboard shortcuts not working. These will work under some apps for example, Microsoft Word and some Windows keyboard shortcuts. If this is enough for you then ignore this bit. If its not…

 

Download - https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/906c31e4-d5ea-7988-cb39-7b688880d7cb

 

You will now need to create your own custom keyboard layout. You will need to remove all the alt-gr and control-alt mappings to get all your control-alt shortcuts working. 

 

Then once you have done this you build that version of the keyboard and select it. It builds it as an .exe and should then show up as a keyboard option once installed. Note you may need to remove the other keyboards at this point to get all shortcuts working.

 

You can follow this guide:

 

https://superuser.com/questions/592970/can-i-make-ctrlalt-not-act-like-altgr-on-windows

 

Ignore all the stuff about auto hotkey you are after the remapping with the keyboard layout creator.

 

I do have the keyboard layout as the .exe for a MBA with a US layout. If you require that instead of making it yourself let me know and i can send it through.

 

As a prior comment said it is these keymappings that take the real effort. But once that is done you have the keyboard layout forever. With Windows 11 just around the corner and it having ARM support this guide to get it working should hopefully, work on that too and be super useful for MacOS users.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



On 10 Jul 2021, at 23:59, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

On Sat, Jul 10, 2021 at 03:24 PM, Jonathan COHN wrote:

Your reply is totally useless as is. AND THIS TOPIC is pretty much not about NVDA att so should be discontinued.

-
Moderator's Note:  No, my dear sir, but yours is, and it's belligerent as well, and I know which I find more offensive:  open belligerence.

Things have now been explained, but even before they were it's clear that someone has to learn how to deal with snark.  Snark as a way of expressing incredulity is common and appropriate at times.

I have no problem with heated disagreements on merit, and I also think that asking whether NVDA can run under Bootcamp is absolutely "about NVDA."  So this topic isn't about to be locked, at least not yet.

There's almost certain to be someone at some point in the future who wonders about how/whether NVDA can be run under Bootcamp on a Mac and this topic gives useful information in that regard.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 

 


Re: Compatibility updates to the "Golden Cursor" add-on will not be provided

Rowen Cary
 

I am not the author of the plugin. If necessary, can we please on nvaccess to find a new maintainer?


Re: Running NVDA on a MacBook with BootCamp or similar?

David Griffith
 

I don’t run Windows on a Mac nowadays leaving NVDA for my Windows machines but when I did  a couple of years ago I was able to do this without sighted help. I hope that this is still the current situation.

The key  step then was to use VMWare Fusion rather than Parallels as your  virtual machine client which allowed a Voiceover accessible installation of Windows as  your Virtual Machine.

Then, as you say, you can use Narrator to download NVDA or, in my case I simply used a portable version of NVDA to get me going.

In terms of remapping keys I personally found this very easy using the free Sharp  Keys utility under Windows and did not use any Mac utility, leaving keys under the Mac side untouched.

For myself I also used this Sharp keys utility to remap the alt gr key to a right windows keys so I had left and right windows keys.

I hope this accessible path to windows install on the Mac situation is still current but cannot check it or provide current step by step as I have abandoned using Windows under a Mac preferring to keep 2 machines. I found too many problems using virtual windows on the Mac side, particularly with hardware support for specialist devices. For example my EyePal Scanner would never work under Mac Virtual Windows and needed a real Windows machine to hook into.

 

David Griffith.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: simon wheatcroft
Sent: 11 July 2021 08:08
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Running NVDA on a MacBook with BootCamp or similar?

 

Hi,

 

As we appear to have the green light of this not being off topic. Here is a rough outline of how you can get windows 10 insiders build working on an M1 under parallels.

 

You will need sighted assistance for this bit as parallels does not work with VO, but follow this guide to get up and running:

 

https://9to5mac.com/2020/12/22/run-windows-10-arm-m1-mac-apple-silicon-x64-x86-no-boot-camp-video/

 

Once running use narrator to download the latest version of NVDA.

 

 

This will give you a basic working install.

 

THings that will be missing:

1. The NVDA key as VO will grab it - i personally re-map the key above tab to insert. I do this under MacOS using:

 

https://ke-complex-modifications.pqrs.org

 

2. The other issue you may have is control+alt keyboard shortcuts not working. These will work under some apps for example, Microsoft Word and some Windows keyboard shortcuts. If this is enough for you then ignore this bit. If its not…

 

Download - https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/906c31e4-d5ea-7988-cb39-7b688880d7cb

 

You will now need to create your own custom keyboard layout. You will need to remove all the alt-gr and control-alt mappings to get all your control-alt shortcuts working. 

 

Then once you have done this you build that version of the keyboard and select it. It builds it as an .exe and should then show up as a keyboard option once installed. Note you may need to remove the other keyboards at this point to get all shortcuts working.

 

You can follow this guide:

 

https://superuser.com/questions/592970/can-i-make-ctrlalt-not-act-like-altgr-on-windows

 

Ignore all the stuff about auto hotkey you are after the remapping with the keyboard layout creator.

 

I do have the keyboard layout as the .exe for a MBA with a US layout. If you require that instead of making it yourself let me know and i can send it through.

 

As a prior comment said it is these keymappings that take the real effort. But once that is done you have the keyboard layout forever. With Windows 11 just around the corner and it having ARM support this guide to get it working should hopefully, work on that too and be super useful for MacOS users.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



On 10 Jul 2021, at 23:59, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

On Sat, Jul 10, 2021 at 03:24 PM, Jonathan COHN wrote:

Your reply is totally useless as is. AND THIS TOPIC is pretty much not about NVDA att so should be discontinued.

-
Moderator's Note:  No, my dear sir, but yours is, and it's belligerent as well, and I know which I find more offensive:  open belligerence.

Things have now been explained, but even before they were it's clear that someone has to learn how to deal with snark.  Snark as a way of expressing incredulity is common and appropriate at times.

I have no problem with heated disagreements on merit, and I also think that asking whether NVDA can run under Bootcamp is absolutely "about NVDA."  So this topic isn't about to be locked, at least not yet.

There's almost certain to be someone at some point in the future who wonders about how/whether NVDA can be run under Bootcamp on a Mac and this topic gives useful information in that regard.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 

 


Re: Compatibility updates to the "Golden Cursor" add-on will not be provided

David Griffith
 

I checked the addon compatibility page and it is still listed as incompatible. Have you submitted your revised compatible version?

It would be kind if you did I think for many users although I have not used it myself.

David Griffith

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rowen Cary
Sent: 10 July 2021 12:31
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Compatibility updates to the "Golden Cursor" add-on will not be provided

 

To make it compatible with 2021.1 only need to change the addon compatibility flag, I did this and it worked well.

 


Re: sending a file through NVDA remote

Chris Mullins
 

Hi

If you look at the message I was responding to,  you will see that someone was trying to move a file between machines via the clipboard and NVDA Remote.  You can use the clipboard to move files around on your local machine but the “Push text” feature of NVDA Remote is just for text not file links.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

Cheers

Chris

 

From: A.Mac via groups.io
Sent: 11 July 2021 09:51
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] sending a file through NVDA remote

 

what do you mean about files?

On 10/07/2021 18:39, Chris Mullins wrote:

 

Hi

You can’t send files via NVDA remote, you can only push/pull  text between connected machines.

 

Cheers

Chris

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: 10 July 2021 18:15
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] sending a file through NVDA remote

 

Hi,

I have successfully pushed my clipboard to someone's computer that I was controlling via NVDA remote, but now I want to send a file.

I went into remote and copied the link and send, and I don't know if it went, or if it did, where it went to on the other computer.

Thanks.

 

Glenn

 

-- 
Thanks for your time in advance.
😎
Later
A.Mac
[all out going mail is scanned by Avira]

 


Re: sending a file through NVDA remote

Gene
 

I haven’t used remote connection but this appears to mean that you can exchange text, written material, but not files.  You can exchange text, but not a file containing text.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2021 3:51 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] sending a file through NVDA remote
 

what do you mean about files?

On 10/07/2021 18:39, Chris Mullins wrote:

 

Hi

You can’t send files via NVDA remote, you can only push/pull  text between connected machines.

 

Cheers

Chris

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: 10 July 2021 18:15
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] sending a file through NVDA remote

 

Hi,

I have successfully pushed my clipboard to someone's computer that I was controlling via NVDA remote, but now I want to send a file.

I went into remote and copied the link and send, and I don't know if it went, or if it did, where it went to on the other computer.

Thanks.

 

Glenn

 

-- 
Thanks for your time in advance.
😎
Later
A.Mac
[all out going mail is scanned by Avira]


Re: sending a file through NVDA remote

A.Mac
 

what do you mean about files?

On 10/07/2021 18:39, Chris Mullins wrote:

 

Hi

You can’t send files via NVDA remote, you can only push/pull  text between connected machines.

 

Cheers

Chris

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Glenn / Lenny
Sent: 10 July 2021 18:15
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] sending a file through NVDA remote

 

Hi,

I have successfully pushed my clipboard to someone's computer that I was controlling via NVDA remote, but now I want to send a file.

I went into remote and copied the link and send, and I don't know if it went, or if it did, where it went to on the other computer.

Thanks.

 

Glenn

 

-- 
Thanks for your time in advance.
😎
Later
A.Mac
[all out going mail is scanned by Avira]


Re: DECtalk Add-on for NVDA

Ian Blackburn
 

The deck talk that sounded the best was the one that was about as big as a flatbed scanner Version two it was

On 11 Jul 2021, at 4:30 pm, Ian Blackburn <ianblackburn@...> wrote:

The hardware dick talk is USB driven it sounds okay but I haven’t used one for at least 10 or 11 years
On 11 Jul 2021, at 4:24 pm, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

I am using dectalk with NVDA 20000-4
and hopefully the add-on will be updated. Seems it was legal when I got it.

Curtis Delzer
HS
K 6 V F O
Rialto, CA

curtis@...

On 7/10/2021 12:33 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
I also like decktalk and eloquence, I would pay for a decktlak add on if one existed as well.
*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Micallef Michael at FITA
*Sent:* Friday, July 9, 2021 7:07 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] decktalk addon for nvda
I agree with Gene 100% the only dectalk version that is available is a hardware based in a usb versio, and its not cheap and because I never heard it I don’t know about its speech quality compared with the dectalk of the venerable window-eyes.
*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Gene via groups.io
*Sent:* Saturday, 10 July 2021 02:01
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] decktalk addon for nvda
CAUTION:This email originated from OUTSIDE the Government Email Infrastructure. DO NOT CLICK LINKS or OPEN attachments unless you recognise the sender and know the content is safe.
As far as I know, there is no legal Dectalk add-on at least not one that sounds at all like what would be expected. I don’t know if it is possible to purchase Dectalk as a stand alone synthesizer, such as a SAPI 5 synthesizer, but I’ve never heard of that either.
You may be able to get more information about the legal ability to purchase Dectalk with a search but I’ve been on this list since the rather early days of NVDA, and I think there would have been information on the list before this if there were a legal add-on, and a legal way to ;purchase Dectalk, at least at anything like a reasonable price, given the interest in Dectalk.
Years ago, someone who worked with Dectalk provided a legal version of Dectalk but it was evidently very old and it sounded very different than the Dectalk people expect.
Gene
-----Original Message-----
*From:*Josh Kennedy <mailto:joshknnd1982@...>
*Sent:*Friday, July 09, 2021 6:42 PM
*To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:*Re: [nvda] decktalk addon for nvda
I would like a decTalk addon that works with NVDA2021.1 as well, but I prefer decTalk 4.41 through 4.6.


Re: DECtalk Add-on for NVDA

Ian Blackburn
 

The hardware dick talk is USB driven it sounds okay but I haven’t used one for at least 10 or 11 years

On 11 Jul 2021, at 4:24 pm, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:

I am using dectalk with NVDA 20000-4
and hopefully the add-on will be updated. Seems it was legal when I got it.

Curtis Delzer
HS
K 6 V F O
Rialto, CA

curtis@...

On 7/10/2021 12:33 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
I also like decktalk and eloquence, I would pay for a decktlak add on if one existed as well.
*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Micallef Michael at FITA
*Sent:* Friday, July 9, 2021 7:07 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] decktalk addon for nvda
I agree with Gene 100% the only dectalk version that is available is a hardware based in a usb versio, and its not cheap and because I never heard it I don’t know about its speech quality compared with the dectalk of the venerable window-eyes.
*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Gene via groups.io
*Sent:* Saturday, 10 July 2021 02:01
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] decktalk addon for nvda
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As far as I know, there is no legal Dectalk add-on at least not one that sounds at all like what would be expected. I don’t know if it is possible to purchase Dectalk as a stand alone synthesizer, such as a SAPI 5 synthesizer, but I’ve never heard of that either.
You may be able to get more information about the legal ability to purchase Dectalk with a search but I’ve been on this list since the rather early days of NVDA, and I think there would have been information on the list before this if there were a legal add-on, and a legal way to ;purchase Dectalk, at least at anything like a reasonable price, given the interest in Dectalk.
Years ago, someone who worked with Dectalk provided a legal version of Dectalk but it was evidently very old and it sounded very different than the Dectalk people expect.
Gene
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*From:*Josh Kennedy <mailto:joshknnd1982@...>
*Sent:*Friday, July 09, 2021 6:42 PM
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*Subject:*Re: [nvda] decktalk addon for nvda
I would like a decTalk addon that works with NVDA2021.1 as well, but I prefer decTalk 4.41 through 4.6.

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