Date   

Re: GoToMeeting with NVDA

Janet Brandly
 

Hi,

 

Thanks for this. I was able to use GTM okay from the web. I just entered the meeting ID and everything else went smoothly.

 

Janet

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pranav Lal
Sent: July 14, 2021 6:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] GoToMeeting with NVDA

 

Hi Janet,

 

See my blog post at the following link.

https://techesoterica.com/gotowebinar-and-screen-readers/

 

When using GoToMeeting, you must use its  HTML5 client. You do this by appending a parameter to the joining link that has been given to you.

 

Go to meeting will open in a browser and you should be able to navigate without problems.

Pranav

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet Brandly
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2021 8:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] GoToMeeting with NVDA

 

Hello all,

 

Would someone please give me some tips about using GoToMeeting with NVDA? I downloaded an accessibility document online, but what I get when activating a link to a meeting invitation doesn’t match what the document says.

 

Thanks so much,

 

Janet


Re: Journal Software

Ben J. Bloomgren
 

John,

I hadn't thought about OneNote. I always hear about how replete that platform is, so I'm following the page which you've just sent us. Thanks a bunch, and happy jaw harping!

Ben


On Jul 15, 2021 10:51, John Isige <gwynn@...> wrote:

QT has an accessibility mode or interface or whatever ,so you might see if they'd be willing to use that. Also, though I haven't used it because I haven't needed a journal app, if you've got Windows 10, you've got access to OneNote, which might work for this sort of thing.


https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/basic-tasks-using-a-screen-reader-with-onenote-32cd532b-d5d4-442b-bc13-1d0ad2016377#PickTab=Windows_10_app


You can do notebooks, sections, and pages, so you could have say, a notebook per year, a section per month, something like that. You should have a pretty flexible organization scheme, and you can name the sections and I think the pages as well. So it should be pretty easy to navigate and find things.


On 7/15/2021 11:36 AM, Bob Cole wrote:
Hi, Gene.

When I relied more heavily upon magnification, I used an application called RedNotebook[1] for journaling. It had a calendar built into it displayed very journal entry per day written. Al that you would have to do is to activate a date on the calendar which had a journal entry. It offered other features such as the adding of pictures and other things of that nature. I don't know much about programming/APIs, but it was written in Qt, I believe. Unfortunately, it is mostly inaccessible to NVDA. It has a simple interface, but it allowed for a quick way to access journal entries as well as the ability to print out to PDF.

The features described on the application's page are pretty much what I'm looking for in an application of this nature.

I guess I really like the idea of compartmentalization which is not particularly offered by a standard word processor.

Thank you so much for your suggestion and thoughts on this!

LINKS:
[1] https://rednotebook.sourceforge.io/


Re: Journal Software

John Isige
 

QT has an accessibility mode or interface or whatever ,so you might see if they'd be willing to use that. Also, though I haven't used it because I haven't needed a journal app, if you've got Windows 10, you've got access to OneNote, which might work for this sort of thing.


https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/basic-tasks-using-a-screen-reader-with-onenote-32cd532b-d5d4-442b-bc13-1d0ad2016377#PickTab=Windows_10_app


You can do notebooks, sections, and pages, so you could have say, a notebook per year, a section per month, something like that. You should have a pretty flexible organization scheme, and you can name the sections and I think the pages as well. So it should be pretty easy to navigate and find things.


On 7/15/2021 11:36 AM, Bob Cole wrote:
Hi, Gene.

When I relied more heavily upon magnification, I used an application called RedNotebook[1] for journaling. It had a calendar built into it displayed very journal entry per day written. Al that you would have to do is to activate a date on the calendar which had a journal entry. It offered other features such as the adding of pictures and other things of that nature. I don't know much about programming/APIs, but it was written in Qt, I believe. Unfortunately, it is mostly inaccessible to NVDA. It has a simple interface, but it allowed for a quick way to access journal entries as well as the ability to print out to PDF.

The features described on the application's page are pretty much what I'm looking for in an application of this nature.

I guess I really like the idea of compartmentalization which is not particularly offered by a standard word processor.

Thank you so much for your suggestion and thoughts on this!

LINKS:
[1] https://rednotebook.sourceforge.io/


Re: Are there up to date add-ons for Winamp?

JM Casey
 

I still use Winamp for music, myself, but..I’m pretty sure it’s dead software. I am running 5.666 on my desktop, and I installed that 5.8 beta or hack or whatever the hell it is on my laptop. I really think the only thing they did for 5.8 was to remove some dead plugins.

The addon doesn’t seem to do much for me.

 

The good news is, as long as Windows continues to support Windows Direct Sound – winamp will probably still work. Sure, it’s legacy, but not even Foobar uses wasapi natively from what I can tell. Seems audio standards takea  really long time to catch on.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Wettlaufer
Sent: July 15, 2021 07:03 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Are there up to date add-ons for Winamp?

 

Unless something has changed, Winamp isn't out of support.  It was updated to version 5.8 back in 2019 and I believe there are still plans for it.

Odd that the add-on works for some and not for others.  It very definitely doesn't work for me.  I was warned that it would be disabled when I updated and that it was.

Steve

On 2021-07-15 12:11 a.m., Arlene wrote:

Hi, Yes, Bryan is right. Winamp is an old piece of softwhere. I installed the addon Confirmed Ron it works for me. I use it all the time. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Ron Canazzi
Sent: July 14, 2021 7:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Are there up to date add-ons for Winamp?

 

Hi Steve,

I looked in my list of add-ons after updating to 2021.1 and it says enabled and when I use Winamp, it works with no problems. I am running 1.2 of the app.



On 7/14/2021 9:56 PM, Steve Wettlaufer wrote:

Hi everyone,

Forgive me if I missed something here on the list or couldn't find it in a search for some reason, but I'm curious about the availability of add-ons for Winamp.  The Extended Winamp 1.2 that I had been relying on forever obviously no longer works after the 2021.1 version update.  Are there plans for it to be updated?  If not, are there other options out there that perform the same or similar functions?

Thanks,

Steve









-- 
Signature:
For a nation to admit it has done grevous wrongs and will strive to correct them for the betterment of all is no vice;
For a nation to claim it has always been great, needs no improvement  and to cling to its past achievements is no virtue!

 


Re: Journal Software

Don Robinson
 

I wonder if Diarium — Private Diary / Daily Journal would work for you? Personally, I have been using Textmaker, and now Word to keep a journal of my activities at our summer cabin for at least the last 15 years. I have been able to sort by date and search for any subject/text I have needed.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Cole
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2021 9:37 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Journal Software

 

Hi, Gene.

When I relied more heavily upon magnification, I used an application called RedNotebook[1] for journaling. It had a calendar built into it displayed very journal entry per day written. Al that you would have to do is to activate a date on the calendar which had a journal entry. It offered other features such as the adding of pictures and other things of that nature. I don't know much about programming/APIs, but it was written in Qt, I believe. Unfortunately, it is mostly inaccessible to NVDA. It has a simple interface, but it allowed for a quick way to access journal entries as well as the ability to print out to PDF.

The features described on the application's page are pretty much what I'm looking for in an application of this nature.

I guess I really like the idea of compartmentalization which is not particularly offered by a standard word processor.

Thank you so much for your suggestion and thoughts on this!

LINKS:
[1] https://rednotebook.sourceforge.io/


Re: problems wiht the nvda eloquence and sapi eloquence add on/apps

Chris Smart
 

What solution do you propose then, since nothing anybody suggests is good enough? LOL


No, you can't turn things up beyond 100%.

On 2021-07-15 12:42 p.m., Sarah k Alawami wrote:
I do, but that will be too much trouble than what it's worth, plus it's not hooked up to my pc. I don't have an audio in or a monitor out for this thing, it's quite basic for an 8 channel mixer.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2021 9:12 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] problems wiht the nvda eloquence and sapi eloquence add on/apps

Or do you own a hardware mixer, maybe a powered mixer? You could feed the computer out into that, and turn up the monitor level as high as you want.










Re: problems wiht the nvda eloquence and sapi eloquence add on/apps

Chris Smart
 

I said earbuds, not ear plugs. but ok, whatever.



On 2021-07-15 12:41 p.m., Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Not very, and ear bloods hurt my ears. My headphone jack sounds like something from the 80s. lol!I had a nice 1 jack sound card once that broke when I sat on it, that thing was nice. If you all want to know more write me off line.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2021 9:09 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] problems wiht the nvda eloquence and sapi eloquence add on/apps

 

If your computer has a 1/8 jack for audio out, what happens if you plug some cheap earbuds into it? How loud does that get?

 

 

On 2021-07-15 12:07 p.m., Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Probably never, not unless I need them. I can ear everything else, just not my synth speech, I need that voice to be loud. Is there an overwrite volume setting or a way to get the add on to go above 100 percent? I'm quite good at hacking, so I would not mind doing that.

On 15 Jul 2021, at 9:05, Chris Smart wrote:

At what point do you investigate hearing aids?

 

I have powered speakers on my computer or can plug in headphones, and either of those can get very very loud if need be.

 

On 2021-07-15 12:01 p.m., Sarah k Alawami wrote:

No, the inflectioni was a lot more in jaws way back in about 2000 to 2003. And the volume is way too low even with nvda cranked at 100 percent in volume control and in nvda itwwself. I'm now trying the add on and the result is the same, the volume is way way way too low for my liking. I need that thign blasting into my ears.

On 15 Jul 2021, at 7:52, Gene wrote:

I don’t see anything related to inflection in the SAPI program.  However, if you open the settings for Eloquence, not in NVDA, but in the program, you can tab around and see check boxes for volume and a few other settings.  You can check the checkboxs for the item you want and you can then tab to a field where you change the setting.  The check boxes say something like voice force change. 

 

But based  on your description, I wonder if there is a problem with how the SAPI 5 program is running on your machine.  When I tried the demo, there was inflection similar to that of JAWS.  The volume, as I recall, was fine.  I don’t recall if there was a volume setting in NVDA itself when using the program. 

 

If I understand what you are reporting, you hear no inflection.  this is definitely not expected behavior.  I’ve tried the SAPI program on more than one computer and had inflection similar to JAWS.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2021 9:40 AM

To: Nvda List

Subject: [nvda] problems wiht the nvda eloquence and sapi eloquence add on/apps

 

Hello. I’m trying the eloquence add on and have also tried the sapi add on. I find that:

 

  1. The rate boost is gone.
  2. The inflection slider is missing
  3. The volume of the voice is way too low even at 100 percent.

I guess I’m too used to the IBM tts voice I’ve been using now since about 2017. I’m also used to the old eloquence from about 2003. Lol. Is there any way to get these sliders back with nvda? –

 


Re: problems wiht the nvda eloquence and sapi eloquence add on/apps

Sarah k Alawami
 

I do, but that will be too much trouble than what it's worth, plus it's not hooked up to my pc. I don't have an audio in or a monitor out for this thing, it's quite basic for an 8 channel mixer.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2021 9:12 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] problems wiht the nvda eloquence and sapi eloquence add on/apps

Or do you own a hardware mixer, maybe a powered mixer? You could feed the computer out into that, and turn up the monitor level as high as you want.


Re: problems wiht the nvda eloquence and sapi eloquence add on/apps

Sarah k Alawami
 

Not very, and ear bloods hurt my ears. My headphone jack sounds like something from the 80s. lol!I had a nice 1 jack sound card once that broke when I sat on it, that thing was nice. If you all want to know more write me off line.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2021 9:09 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] problems wiht the nvda eloquence and sapi eloquence add on/apps

 

If your computer has a 1/8 jack for audio out, what happens if you plug some cheap earbuds into it? How loud does that get?

 

 

On 2021-07-15 12:07 p.m., Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Probably never, not unless I need them. I can ear everything else, just not my synth speech, I need that voice to be loud. Is there an overwrite volume setting or a way to get the add on to go above 100 percent? I'm quite good at hacking, so I would not mind doing that.

On 15 Jul 2021, at 9:05, Chris Smart wrote:

At what point do you investigate hearing aids?

 

I have powered speakers on my computer or can plug in headphones, and either of those can get very very loud if need be.

 

On 2021-07-15 12:01 p.m., Sarah k Alawami wrote:

No, the inflectioni was a lot more in jaws way back in about 2000 to 2003. And the volume is way too low even with nvda cranked at 100 percent in volume control and in nvda itwwself. I'm now trying the add on and the result is the same, the volume is way way way too low for my liking. I need that thign blasting into my ears.

On 15 Jul 2021, at 7:52, Gene wrote:

I don’t see anything related to inflection in the SAPI program.  However, if you open the settings for Eloquence, not in NVDA, but in the program, you can tab around and see check boxes for volume and a few other settings.  You can check the checkboxs for the item you want and you can then tab to a field where you change the setting.  The check boxes say something like voice force change. 

 

But based  on your description, I wonder if there is a problem with how the SAPI 5 program is running on your machine.  When I tried the demo, there was inflection similar to that of JAWS.  The volume, as I recall, was fine.  I don’t recall if there was a volume setting in NVDA itself when using the program. 

 

If I understand what you are reporting, you hear no inflection.  this is definitely not expected behavior.  I’ve tried the SAPI program on more than one computer and had inflection similar to JAWS.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2021 9:40 AM

Subject: [nvda] problems wiht the nvda eloquence and sapi eloquence add on/apps

 

Hello. I’m trying the eloquence add on and have also tried the sapi add on. I find that:

 

  1. The rate boost is gone.
  2. The inflection slider is missing
  3. The volume of the voice is way too low even at 100 percent.

I guess I’m too used to the IBM tts voice I’ve been using now since about 2017. I’m also used to the old eloquence from about 2003. Lol. Is there any way to get these sliders back with nvda? –

 


Re: Journal Software

Bob Cole
 

Micallef Michael,

I checked out the page for AzzCardFile. This lookes interesting. I'll have to see if, perhaps, this could work for my situation.

Thank you!


Re: Journal Software

Bob Cole
 

Hi, Gene.

When I relied more heavily upon magnification, I used an application called RedNotebook[1] for journaling. It had a calendar built into it displayed very journal entry per day written. Al that you would have to do is to activate a date on the calendar which had a journal entry. It offered other features such as the adding of pictures and other things of that nature. I don't know much about programming/APIs, but it was written in Qt, I believe. Unfortunately, it is mostly inaccessible to NVDA. It has a simple interface, but it allowed for a quick way to access journal entries as well as the ability to print out to PDF.

The features described on the application's page are pretty much what I'm looking for in an application of this nature.

I guess I really like the idea of compartmentalization which is not particularly offered by a standard word processor.

Thank you so much for your suggestion and thoughts on this!

LINKS:
[1] https://rednotebook.sourceforge.io/


Re: problems wiht the nvda eloquence and sapi eloquence add on/apps

Chris Smart
 

Or do you own a hardware mixer, maybe a powered mixer? You could feed the computer out into that, and turn up the monitor level as high as you want.


Re: problems wiht the nvda eloquence and sapi eloquence add on/apps

Chris Smart
 

If your computer has a 1/8 jack for audio out, what happens if you plug some cheap earbuds into it? How loud does that get?



On 2021-07-15 12:07 p.m., Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Probably never, not unless I need them. I can ear everything else, just not my synth speech, I need that voice to be loud. Is there an overwrite volume setting or a way to get the add on to go above 100 percent? I'm quite good at hacking, so I would not mind doing that.

On 15 Jul 2021, at 9:05, Chris Smart wrote:

At what point do you investigate hearing aids?


I have powered speakers on my computer or can plug in headphones, and either of those can get very very loud if need be.


On 2021-07-15 12:01 p.m., Sarah k Alawami wrote:

No, the inflectioni was a lot more in jaws way back in about 2000 to 2003. And the volume is way too low even with nvda cranked at 100 percent in volume control and in nvda itwwself. I'm now trying the add on and the result is the same, the volume is way way way too low for my liking. I need that thign blasting into my ears.

On 15 Jul 2021, at 7:52, Gene wrote:

I don’t see anything related to inflection in the SAPI program.  However, if you open the settings for Eloquence, not in NVDA, but in the program, you can tab around and see check boxes for volume and a few other settings.  You can check the checkboxs for the item you want and you can then tab to a field where you change the setting.  The check boxes say something like voice force change. 
 
But based  on your description, I wonder if there is a problem with how the SAPI 5 program is running on your machine.  When I tried the demo, there was inflection similar to that of JAWS.  The volume, as I recall, was fine.  I don’t recall if there was a volume setting in NVDA itself when using the program. 
 
If I understand what you are reporting, you hear no inflection.  this is definitely not expected behavior.  I’ve tried the SAPI program on more than one computer and had inflection similar to JAWS.
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2021 9:40 AM
Subject: [nvda] problems wiht the nvda eloquence and sapi eloquence add on/apps
 

Hello. I’m trying the eloquence add on and have also tried the sapi add on. I find that:

 

  1. The rate boost is gone.
  2. The inflection slider is missing
  3. The volume of the voice is way too low even at 100 percent.

I guess I’m too used to the IBM tts voice I’ve been using now since about 2017. I’m also used to the old eloquence from about 2003. Lol. Is there any way to get these sliders back with nvda? –

 


Re: problems wiht the nvda eloquence and sapi eloquence add on/apps

Sarah k Alawami
 

Probably never, not unless I need them. I can ear everything else, just not my synth speech, I need that voice to be loud. Is there an overwrite volume setting or a way to get the add on to go above 100 percent? I'm quite good at hacking, so I would not mind doing that.

On 15 Jul 2021, at 9:05, Chris Smart wrote:

At what point do you investigate hearing aids?


I have powered speakers on my computer or can plug in headphones, and either of those can get very very loud if need be.


On 2021-07-15 12:01 p.m., Sarah k Alawami wrote:

No, the inflectioni was a lot more in jaws way back in about 2000 to 2003. And the volume is way too low even with nvda cranked at 100 percent in volume control and in nvda itwwself. I'm now trying the add on and the result is the same, the volume is way way way too low for my liking. I need that thign blasting into my ears.

On 15 Jul 2021, at 7:52, Gene wrote:

I don’t see anything related to inflection in the SAPI program.  However, if you open the settings for Eloquence, not in NVDA, but in the program, you can tab around and see check boxes for volume and a few other settings.  You can check the checkboxs for the item you want and you can then tab to a field where you change the setting.  The check boxes say something like voice force change. 
 
But based  on your description, I wonder if there is a problem with how the SAPI 5 program is running on your machine.  When I tried the demo, there was inflection similar to that of JAWS.  The volume, as I recall, was fine.  I don’t recall if there was a volume setting in NVDA itself when using the program. 
 
If I understand what you are reporting, you hear no inflection.  this is definitely not expected behavior.  I’ve tried the SAPI program on more than one computer and had inflection similar to JAWS.
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2021 9:40 AM
Subject: [nvda] problems wiht the nvda eloquence and sapi eloquence add on/apps
 

Hello. I’m trying the eloquence add on and have also tried the sapi add on. I find that:

 

  1. The rate boost is gone.
  2. The inflection slider is missing
  3. The volume of the voice is way too low even at 100 percent.

I guess I’m too used to the IBM tts voice I’ve been using now since about 2017. I’m also used to the old eloquence from about 2003. Lol. Is there any way to get these sliders back with nvda? –

 


Re: problems wiht the nvda eloquence and sapi eloquence add on/apps

Chris Smart
 

At what point do you investigate hearing aids?


I have powered speakers on my computer or can plug in headphones, and either of those can get very very loud if need be.


On 2021-07-15 12:01 p.m., Sarah k Alawami wrote:

No, the inflectioni was a lot more in jaws way back in about 2000 to 2003. And the volume is way too low even with nvda cranked at 100 percent in volume control and in nvda itwwself. I'm now trying the add on and the result is the same, the volume is way way way too low for my liking. I need that thign blasting into my ears.

On 15 Jul 2021, at 7:52, Gene wrote:

I don’t see anything related to inflection in the SAPI program.  However, if you open the settings for Eloquence, not in NVDA, but in the program, you can tab around and see check boxes for volume and a few other settings.  You can check the checkboxs for the item you want and you can then tab to a field where you change the setting.  The check boxes say something like voice force change. 
 
But based  on your description, I wonder if there is a problem with how the SAPI 5 program is running on your machine.  When I tried the demo, there was inflection similar to that of JAWS.  The volume, as I recall, was fine.  I don’t recall if there was a volume setting in NVDA itself when using the program. 
 
If I understand what you are reporting, you hear no inflection.  this is definitely not expected behavior.  I’ve tried the SAPI program on more than one computer and had inflection similar to JAWS.
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2021 9:40 AM
Subject: [nvda] problems wiht the nvda eloquence and sapi eloquence add on/apps
 

Hello. I’m trying the eloquence add on and have also tried the sapi add on. I find that:

 

  1. The rate boost is gone.
  2. The inflection slider is missing
  3. The volume of the voice is way too low even at 100 percent.

I guess I’m too used to the IBM tts voice I’ve been using now since about 2017. I’m also used to the old eloquence from about 2003. Lol. Is there any way to get these sliders back with nvda? –

 


Re: problems wiht the nvda eloquence and sapi eloquence add on/apps

Sarah k Alawami
 

Actually all comes out fine, and even on my older systems eloquence was still way way way too low for my ears. You won't hear it if I record it as my VAC makes things the right volume, loud. My hardware sound card makes all but eloquence loud. Espeak is louder than eloquence to my ear.

On 15 Jul 2021, at 8:04, Brian Vogel wrote:

I agree with Gene that "something is off here" and that something is not likely to be NVDA itself (though it can't be ruled out entirely).

When anomalies like this occur it can't hurt to try:
1. Using SFC (System File Checker) and DISM (Deployment Imaging Servicing and Management) to Repair Windows 8 & 10
and, if the above doesn't work, followed by:
2. Doing a Windows 10 Repair Install or Feature Update Using the Windows 10 ISO file

Also uninstalling the offending software before doing either of the above and reinstalling it to see if that fixes anything is worth trying.

The behaviors described are anomalies.  They're not characteristic of normal and correct operation.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: problems wiht the nvda eloquence and sapi eloquence add on/apps

Sarah k Alawami
 

No, the inflectioni was a lot more in jaws way back in about 2000 to 2003. And the volume is way too low even with nvda cranked at 100 percent in volume control and in nvda itwwself. I'm now trying the add on and the result is the same, the volume is way way way too low for my liking. I need that thign blasting into my ears.

On 15 Jul 2021, at 7:52, Gene wrote:

I don’t see anything related to inflection in the SAPI program.  However, if you open the settings for Eloquence, not in NVDA, but in the program, you can tab around and see check boxes for volume and a few other settings.  You can check the checkboxs for the item you want and you can then tab to a field where you change the setting.  The check boxes say something like voice force change. 
 
But based  on your description, I wonder if there is a problem with how the SAPI 5 program is running on your machine.  When I tried the demo, there was inflection similar to that of JAWS.  The volume, as I recall, was fine.  I don’t recall if there was a volume setting in NVDA itself when using the program. 
 
If I understand what you are reporting, you hear no inflection.  this is definitely not expected behavior.  I’ve tried the SAPI program on more than one computer and had inflection similar to JAWS.
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2021 9:40 AM
Subject: [nvda] problems wiht the nvda eloquence and sapi eloquence add on/apps
 

Hello. I’m trying the eloquence add on and have also tried the sapi add on. I find that:

 

  1. The rate boost is gone.
  2. The inflection slider is missing
  3. The volume of the voice is way too low even at 100 percent.

I guess I’m too used to the IBM tts voice I’ve been using now since about 2017. I’m also used to the old eloquence from about 2003. Lol. Is there any way to get these sliders back with nvda? –

 


Re: getting a "please register this product" with the 7 day trial of the sapi eloquence demo

Sarah k Alawami
 

I might contact them then with some feedback.

By the way if you look at the atguys page the sapi link is not on the CF page under education products. I had to google for it, which is odd.

On 15 Jul 2021, at 7:44, Josh Kennedy wrote:

codeFactory never implemented inflection slider on their eloquence product. I think you are confusing codeFactory eloquence with IBM-viavoice-tts, which is an abandoned unsupported completely separate product, even though it sounds almost exactly like eloquence, and which, in fact, does have an inflection slider along with other sliders to change many more voice parameters. 


Re: DECtalk Add-on for NVDA

 

On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 10:52 AM, Josh Kennedy wrote:
I am hesitant to post the link to this decTalk bundle
-
Then, please, don't.

People can use the "Reply to Sender" link to contact you privately should they wish to do so.

What occurs behind the proverbial closed doors is of no concern to group administration.  Only what occurs in public and even might be legally problematic is.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: problems wiht the nvda eloquence and sapi eloquence add on/apps

Mohamed
 

Hi, the rate boost and inflection settings were never implemented in Code Factory's Eloquence products.

On 7/15/2021 10:40 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Hello. I’m trying the eloquence add on and have also tried the sapi add on. I find that:

 

  1. The rate boost is gone.
  2. The inflection slider is missing
  3. The volume of the voice is way too low even at 100 percent.

I guess I’m too used to the IBM tts voice I’ve been using now since about 2017. I’m also used to the old eloquence from about 2003. Lol. Is there any way to get these sliders back with nvda? –

 

12241 - 12260 of 98345