Date   

Re: speech rate changes to defaults

 

If this is changing in Windows itself, and that's how I read what has been offered so far, then my standard advice for fixing "Windows Weirdnesses" applies:

1. Using SFC (System File Checker) and DISM (Deployment Imaging Servicing and Management) to Repair Windows 8 & 10
then, if that didn't fix the issue:
2. Doing a Windows 10 Repair Install or Feature Update Using the Windows 10 ISO file

Neither of the above can hurt anything.
--

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I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: speech rate changes to defaults

David Goldfield
 

George, if you are using the Windows OneCore voices then I’m a bit baffled at what you are experiencing. What version of Windows are you using?

Are you running any addons? If so does the problem occur if you restart NVDA with addons disabled?

 

David Goldfield,

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of George Kerscher
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2021 12:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] speech rate changes to defaults

 

Hi,

 

It happened again this morning. My configuration was saved. It seems that only the rate reverts to 9 on the rate setting.

 

Any thoughts?

 

Best

George

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris via groups.io
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 8:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] speech rate changes to defaults

 

Try saving the configuration after you have set it to what you want it to be set at

 

 

 

From: George Kerscher
Sent: 16 July 2021 14:46
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] speech rate changes to defaults

 

Hello,

 

On 2021.1, I will be working and the speech rate changes to the default rate of 9. I have been going to the desktop and then go to the speech preferences and set the rate to 24 or 25, which I like. It then works for a long time until it does this again.

 

Just a bug or any other thoughts? Using Microsoft core voices, because my Eloquence is not working yet.

 

Best

George

 

 

 

George Kerscher Ph.D.

-In our Information Age, access to information is a fundamental human right.

Chief Innovations Officer, DAISY Consortium

http://www.daisy.org

Senior Advisor, Global Literacy, Benetech

http://www.benetech.org

President, International Digital Publishing Forum (IDPF)

http://www.idpf.org

Member of the National Museum and Library Services  Board (IMLS)

http://www.imls.gov

Chair Steering Council Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI), at W3C

http://www.w3.org/WAI

Phone: +1 406/549-4687

Cell:+1 406/544-2466

Email: kerscher@...

 

 


Re: speech rate changes to defaults

George Kerscher
 

Hi,

 

It happened again this morning. My configuration was saved. It seems that only the rate reverts to 9 on the rate setting.

 

Any thoughts?

 

Best

George

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris via groups.io
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 8:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] speech rate changes to defaults

 

Try saving the configuration after you have set it to what you want it to be set at

 

 

 

From: George Kerscher
Sent: 16 July 2021 14:46
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] speech rate changes to defaults

 

Hello,

 

On 2021.1, I will be working and the speech rate changes to the default rate of 9. I have been going to the desktop and then go to the speech preferences and set the rate to 24 or 25, which I like. It then works for a long time until it does this again.

 

Just a bug or any other thoughts? Using Microsoft core voices, because my Eloquence is not working yet.

 

Best

George

 

 

 

George Kerscher Ph.D.

-In our Information Age, access to information is a fundamental human right.

Chief Innovations Officer, DAISY Consortium

http://www.daisy.org

Senior Advisor, Global Literacy, Benetech

http://www.benetech.org

President, International Digital Publishing Forum (IDPF)

http://www.idpf.org

Member of the National Museum and Library Services  Board (IMLS)

http://www.imls.gov

Chair Steering Council Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI), at W3C

http://www.w3.org/WAI

Phone: +1 406/549-4687

Cell:+1 406/544-2466

Email: kerscher@...

 

 


Re: Is This a NVDA Setting or is this a Problem with the Site?

 

Martin,

Consider uninstalling and reinstalling Brave itself if you have not dedicated a lot of time to tweaking settings in Brave.

The difficulty here, and through no fault of your own, is that there are just so darned many settings, many of which can interact with each other, and if you've done any fiddling (and particularly if you don't remember specifically what) it becomes impossible for others to replicate the problems you're having.  There could also just be a weirdness with your installation of Brave that might be solved with an uninstall/reinstall.

But using another Chromium-based browser as a workaround is the best quick and dirty solution.  And even if you were to report the issues, and they were common to all Brave users, I've very often gotten the reply from various tech support folks to use Chrome or Edge.  They're never going to test their sites using every possible Chromium-based browser, and if the site works well in all respects using the two major ones then they've definitely done their due diligence.  I only expect testing on Firefox, Chrome, and Edge, at most.
--

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I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: Is This a NVDA Setting or is this a Problem with the Site?

Martin McCormick
 

"Chris via groups.io" <chrismedley@...> writes:
Or possibly a brave setting???
I think it's a brave problem and that was a good
suggestion. I tried Microsoft Edge and everything is normal
there. It's mostly normal with brave but there is a lot of shall
we say, exposed innards babbling away about graphic links and no
available description and what I get with edge is a perfectly
normal screen that doesn't have me scratching my head and
wondering if something is amiss or whether there is a setting I
can tweak to make things just work.

Anyway, thanks.

Martin


Re: Is This a NVDA Setting or is this a Problem with the Site?

Gene
 

I don’t know what accounts for the problem.  I went to the sight and followed the link that said download  on the page.  While I didn’t look at every one, I looked at a lot and all the ones I looked at read.  I followed one or two links and the download dialog opened so I evidently could have downloaded what I had gotten to if I had continued.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2021 6:46 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is This a NVDA Setting or is this a Problem with the Site?
 

Or possibly a brave setting???

 

Looks normal to me in brave, so not sure what you are struggling with regards to the links

 

 

From: Martin McCormick
Sent: 17 July 2021 12:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Is This a NVDA Setting or is this a Problem with the Site?

 

I went to the web site of

 

http://www.silicondust.com

 

which is a company that makes a line of server-type devices and a

few actual servers one can put on their network to stream cable

and over-the-air TV on their WiFi or wired networks.  I have a

device for cable and another for an outside antenna and they are

accessible if one is willing to use a little elbow grease

involving some programming and the use of such applications as

vlc to transcode or convert the mpeg4 packets these devices put

on your home network to mpeg2 which is what movies are encoded

as.

 

                I haven't visited that site in a few years and I also had

not done so with brave which is based on chromium and Windows10

with nvda so I was a little frustrated when I went there to get

the Windows10 software pack that can talk to those devices and

got as far as the Downloads link and then every solitary link

after that said, "graphic no description available."

 

                There would be half a dozen of these no-help tags after

the main header.

 

                I actually got the Mac and Windows software anyway by

using lynx on a Debian Linux command-line system but I was just

lucky that their web site is well enough done that it apparently

does not use javascript in the download portion of the web pages

but the labels I needed were right there and lynx read them plus

the download actually worked fine for both the Macintosh and the

Windows10 archives.

 

                So I am wondering if I have failed to set nvda correctly

since you would think brave should work well for this purpose.

 

                If anybody would like to try www.silicondust.com to see

what they get, go to Downloads and see if you can find your way

around the links just under Downloads.  You don't need to

actually click on the files and download them as I do have them

but it's not very useful to keep hearing "graphic no description

available"  Who knows what one might accidentally click on?

 

                If I can change some setting and make it work, no need to

complain to Tech Support.  If it really is broken, I will

congratulate them on the otherwise well-done site and remind them

that those of us who are blind also use TV and their devices

give us the whole data stream so we can get SAP if the program

has it but having information about what the links do is

necessary to work efficiently.

 

Thanks.

 

Martin McCormick

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Is This a NVDA Setting or is this a Problem with the Site?

Chris
 

Or possibly a brave setting???

 

Looks normal to me in brave, so not sure what you are struggling with regards to the links

 

 

From: Martin McCormick
Sent: 17 July 2021 12:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Is This a NVDA Setting or is this a Problem with the Site?

 

I went to the web site of

 

http://www.silicondust.com

 

which is a company that makes a line of server-type devices and a

few actual servers one can put on their network to stream cable

and over-the-air TV on their WiFi or wired networks.  I have a

device for cable and another for an outside antenna and they are

accessible if one is willing to use a little elbow grease

involving some programming and the use of such applications as

vlc to transcode or convert the mpeg4 packets these devices put

on your home network to mpeg2 which is what movies are encoded

as.

 

                I haven't visited that site in a few years and I also had

not done so with brave which is based on chromium and Windows10

with nvda so I was a little frustrated when I went there to get

the Windows10 software pack that can talk to those devices and

got as far as the Downloads link and then every solitary link

after that said, "graphic no description available."

 

                There would be half a dozen of these no-help tags after

the main header.

 

                I actually got the Mac and Windows software anyway by

using lynx on a Debian Linux command-line system but I was just

lucky that their web site is well enough done that it apparently

does not use javascript in the download portion of the web pages

but the labels I needed were right there and lynx read them plus

the download actually worked fine for both the Macintosh and the

Windows10 archives.

 

                So I am wondering if I have failed to set nvda correctly

since you would think brave should work well for this purpose.

 

                If anybody would like to try www.silicondust.com to see

what they get, go to Downloads and see if you can find your way

around the links just under Downloads.  You don't need to

actually click on the files and download them as I do have them

but it's not very useful to keep hearing "graphic no description

available"  Who knows what one might accidentally click on?

 

                If I can change some setting and make it work, no need to

complain to Tech Support.  If it really is broken, I will

congratulate them on the otherwise well-done site and remind them

that those of us who are blind also use TV and their devices

give us the whole data stream so we can get SAP if the program

has it but having information about what the links do is

necessary to work efficiently.

 

Thanks.

 

Martin McCormick

 

 

 

 

 


Is This a NVDA Setting or is this a Problem with the Site?

Martin McCormick
 

I went to the web site of

http://www.silicondust.com

which is a company that makes a line of server-type devices and a
few actual servers one can put on their network to stream cable
and over-the-air TV on their WiFi or wired networks. I have a
device for cable and another for an outside antenna and they are
accessible if one is willing to use a little elbow grease
involving some programming and the use of such applications as
vlc to transcode or convert the mpeg4 packets these devices put
on your home network to mpeg2 which is what movies are encoded
as.

I haven't visited that site in a few years and I also had
not done so with brave which is based on chromium and Windows10
with nvda so I was a little frustrated when I went there to get
the Windows10 software pack that can talk to those devices and
got as far as the Downloads link and then every solitary link
after that said, "graphic no description available."

There would be half a dozen of these no-help tags after
the main header.

I actually got the Mac and Windows software anyway by
using lynx on a Debian Linux command-line system but I was just
lucky that their web site is well enough done that it apparently
does not use javascript in the download portion of the web pages
but the labels I needed were right there and lynx read them plus
the download actually worked fine for both the Macintosh and the
Windows10 archives.

So I am wondering if I have failed to set nvda correctly
since you would think brave should work well for this purpose.

If anybody would like to try www.silicondust.com to see
what they get, go to Downloads and see if you can find your way
around the links just under Downloads. You don't need to
actually click on the files and download them as I do have them
but it's not very useful to keep hearing "graphic no description
available" Who knows what one might accidentally click on?

If I can change some setting and make it work, no need to
complain to Tech Support. If it really is broken, I will
congratulate them on the otherwise well-done site and remind them
that those of us who are blind also use TV and their devices
give us the whole data stream so we can get SAP if the program
has it but having information about what the links do is
necessary to work efficiently.

Thanks.

Martin McCormick


Re: NVDA remote for iOS

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 


thanks that was the hint I needed.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 5:16 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA remote for iOS

Hi,

I just installed it and tested.

Once connected i turned off quick nav then the keyboard seemed to work fine. I could navigate the start menu, open apps etc




On 16 Jul 2021, at 10:16, Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@...> wrote:


I just installed it on my phone and was able to connect it to my laptop. that was all I was able to do with it. the screen never changed. yes, I practically always use a keyboard with my phone.


Re: reading status bar with nvda

mukesh jain
 

hello,
yes, this method works. thanks,
Mukesh

On 7/17/21, Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@...> wrote:
Hi Group,

Lacking an update to an NVDA add-on or any such future add-ons, there is
a simple way to read the status bar in Windows Explorer/My Computer/This
PC.

1. Make sure you are in screen review mode (insert + numpad 7 desktop
keyboard)
2. Press shift + keypad 9 to read the very bottom line of the screen.
You should hear something like:
1416 items 1 selected.



On 7/16/2021 7:07 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Rui has posted about this add-on before, and gave the download link
here: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/message/77303
<https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/message/77303>

The version that downloads from the link in the above noted message is
compatible only through NVDA 2020.4. I do not recall whether he has
mentioned an intent to update for NVDA 2021.1 or not. There's a lot of
water flowing under the various 2021.1 bridges these days.
--

Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043

/I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their
actions. The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions,
and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body. What
you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are./

~ Brian Vogel

--
Signature:
For a nation to admit it has done grevous wrongs and will strive to correct
them for the betterment of all is no vice;
For a nation to claim it has always been great, needs no improvement and to
cling to its past achievements is no virtue!







Re: reading status bar with nvda

Sarah k Alawami
 

I just object nav to the status bar, I think I do anyway? I'm half asleep here. I hardly touch it as for me it's not really necessary.

On 16 Jul 2021, at 21:26, Ron Canazzi wrote:

Hi Group,

Lacking an update to an NVDA add-on or any such future add-ons, there is a simple way to read the status bar in Windows Explorer/My Computer/This PC.

1.  Make sure you are in screen review mode (insert + numpad 7 desktop keyboard)
2.  Press shift + keypad 9 to read the very bottom line of the screen. You should hear something like:
1416 items 1 selected.



On 7/16/2021 7:07 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Rui has posted about this add-on before, and gave the download link here: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/message/77303 

The version that downloads from the link in the above noted message is compatible only through NVDA 2020.4.  I do not recall whether he has mentioned an intent to update for NVDA 2021.1 or not. There's a lot of water flowing under the various 2021.1 bridges these days.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


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Signature:
For a nation to admit it has done grevous wrongs and will strive to correct them for the betterment of all is no vice;
For a nation to claim it has always been great, needs no improvement  and to cling to its past achievements is no virtue!


Re: reading status bar with nvda

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,

Lacking an update to an NVDA add-on or any such future add-ons, there is a simple way to read the status bar in Windows Explorer/My Computer/This PC.

1.  Make sure you are in screen review mode (insert + numpad 7 desktop keyboard)
2.  Press shift + keypad 9 to read the very bottom line of the screen. You should hear something like:
1416 items 1 selected.



On 7/16/2021 7:07 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Rui has posted about this add-on before, and gave the download link here: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/message/77303 

The version that downloads from the link in the above noted message is compatible only through NVDA 2020.4.  I do not recall whether he has mentioned an intent to update for NVDA 2021.1 or not. There's a lot of water flowing under the various 2021.1 bridges these days.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


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Re: Voices With NVDA Question Please.

 

From a post I made on what was then the Windows 10 for Screen Reader Users Group, now the Windows Access with Screen Readers Group:

            In Settings, Time and Language, Language Pane you can add languages with the Add Languages button.  I've added English language packs for Australia, Canada, and the UK.  This makes the various OneCore voices associated with those language packs available for my use, whether in Windows 10 itself or a screen reader.  Make sure when you're looking at a language that it will work with Text-to-Speech if the intention is to use it with a screen reader, as not all do.

            If you want to check what voices you currently have installed, it's the same Windows 10 Settings but choose the Speech Pane.  The voice dropdown shows the voices currently available on your machine.  You can also add languages and the voices for same in this pane as well with the Add voices button.  That will open up the dialog that lets you search for languages, and dialects within certain languages, and once you've picked and installed the language packs you want the voices for those will appear in the voices dropdown.

            As is typical, Microsoft gives you more than one way to accomplish the same end.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: Voices With NVDA Question Please.

Monte Single
 

Hi Jackie

Where did you find this great Canadian voice?
Do tell?

Cheers,

Le Mont Stir.

Living In the original toontown, Saskatoon Saskatchewan, Canada!-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jackie
Sent: July 16, 2021 4:15 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Voices With NVDA Question Please.

Well, all this discussion prompted me to go around looking for additional TTS voices. I just installed ones from Canada--man--why do
*they* get all the good ones? I mean wow--I'm not like a voice freak or anything like that but those voices from Canada are really really good. I know what I'll be using whenever I make spoken tutorials from henceforth & probly forevermore. I'm really impressed--I mean I sat up & took all kinds of notice. My question still remains--why does Canada get the good ones while we in the US get stuck w/the likes of Xera & David? That's just craziness!

On 7/16/21, Marten Post Uiterweer <martenpu@...> wrote:
Ort ctrl-win-n for narrator settings.

Regards, Marten

On Fri, 16 Jul 2021 10:33:49 +0100 "Chris Mullins"
<cjmullins29@...>
wrote:

Hi
You can edit Narrator settings as follows:
Pres Windows+I to open settings dialog Press tab once to enter list
of Categories, then arrow down to “Ease of Access” and press enter In
the next dialog, press tab once to enter the list of sub-categories
and arrow down to “Narrator” and press enter Tab through the controls
in this dialog box, you will find lots of Narrator settings including
Voice, pitch and rate. Change as required, then press alt+F4 to exit
the dialog.

Cheers
Chris

Sent from <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>Mail for
Windows
10

From: <mailto:janet.harvard@...>janet
Sent: 16 July 2021 01:06
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Voices With NVDA Question Please.


Gene,
That’s a good question, I wish I knew. The voice that comes on my
machine is not even close to David or Mark though. Do you know how I
can raise the speech rate on Narrator? I would like to see just how
much more Narrator will sound if I raise the speech rate. I’m very
sure the voice I am talking about and the Narrator voice are very similar.

Janet

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2021 6:35 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Voices With NVDA Question Please.



The next question appears to be how do you find out which voice
Narrator is using.



Gene

p-----Original Message-----

From: <mailto:janet.harvard@...>janet

Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2021 6:33 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Voices With NVDA Question Please.






Hi,
No it is not even close to Mark or David. Although, it does sound very
very similar to Narrator. If that makes any sense, I’m not sure.
Janet
Janet ,

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2021 6:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Voices With NVDA Question Please.



Could it be Microsoft Mark?


On 7/15/2021 4:28 PM, janet wrote:

Brian,
Ok, I finally got my Laptop turned on, and I tried the voices
especially David, and the voice I am talking about and the voice of
David, are as different as day and night. I turned JAWS, NVDA off,
and I turned on Narrator, and the voice I am talking about and
Narrator sound very very similar. Could this be possible?

Janet


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2021 5:52 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Voices With NVDA Question Please.

I just installed NVDA 2021.1 and I'll bet my bottom dollar that the
voice now used by the installer is Microsoft David, which is a
Microsoft OneCore Voice.

I use David as my voice with NVDA, but at a slightly faster rate,
and if it's not Microsoft David it's so close that using MS David
would probably suit anyone who likes that installer voice.
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043 I do not
understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.
The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and
expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body. What
you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.
~ Brian Vogel













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Convention Special From AT Guys: Eloquence and Vocalizer Addon For NVDA: On Sale For $59.00

David Goldfield
 

For those considering purchasing this addon AT Guys is offering a discount in honor of this month’s ACB and NFB conventions. This addon provides voices for both Nuance Vocalizer and the Eloquence voices. This is the NVDA addon and not the SAPI 5 version. It appears that this discount is available even if you are not attending the convention.

 

https://www.atguys.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=60_20&products_id=231

 

David Goldfield,

Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

JAWS Certified, 2019

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Email: tech-vi+subscribe@groups.io

 

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Re: Voices With NVDA Question Please.

Arlene
 

Hey cool! Canada has good voices for NVDA! That is so cool!

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Jackie
Sent: July 16, 2021 3:15 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Voices With NVDA Question Please.

 

Well, all this discussion prompted me to go around looking for

additional TTS voices. I just installed ones from Canada--man--why do

*they* get all the good ones? I mean wow--I'm not like a voice freak

or anything like that but those voices from Canada are really really

good. I know what I'll be using whenever I make spoken tutorials from

henceforth & probly forevermore. I'm really impressed--I mean I sat up

& took all kinds of notice. My question still remains--why does Canada

get the good ones while we in the US get stuck w/the likes of Xera &

David? That's just craziness!

 

On 7/16/21, Marten Post Uiterweer <martenpu@...> wrote:

> Ort ctrl-win-n for narrator settings.

> Regards, Marten

> On Fri, 16 Jul 2021 10:33:49 +0100 "Chris Mullins" <cjmullins29@...>

> wrote:

>> Hi

>> You can edit Narrator settings as follows:

>> Pres Windows+I to open settings dialog

>> Press tab once to enter list of Categories, then arrow down to “Ease of

>> Access” and press enter

>> In the next dialog, press tab once to enter the list of sub-categories and

>> arrow down to “Narrator” and press enter

>> Tab through the controls in this dialog box, you will find lots of

>> Narrator settings including Voice, pitch and rate.  Change as required,

>> then press alt+F4 to exit the dialog.

>> 

>> Cheers

>> Chris

>> 

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>> 

>> From: <mailto:janet.harvard@...>janet

>> Sent: 16 July 2021 01:06

>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

>> Subject: Re: [nvda] Voices With NVDA Question Please.

>> 

>> 

>> Gene,

>> That’s a good question, I wish I knew.  The voice that comes on my machine

>> is not even close to David or Mark though.  Do you know how I can raise

>> the speech rate on Narrator?  I would like to see just how much more

>> Narrator will sound if I raise the speech rate.  I’m very sure the voice I

>> am talking about and the Narrator voice are very similar.

>> 

>> Janet

>> 

>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene

>> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2021 6:35 PM

>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

>> Subject: Re: [nvda] Voices With NVDA Question Please.

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> The next question appears to be how  do you find out which voice Narrator

>> is using.

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> Gene

>> 

>> p-----Original Message-----

>> 

>> From: <mailto:janet.harvard@...>janet

>> 

>> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2021 6:33 PM

>> 

>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

>> 

>> Subject: Re: [nvda] Voices With NVDA Question Please.

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> Hi,

>> No it is not even close to Mark or David.  Although, it does sound very

>> very similar to Narrator.   If that makes any sense, I’m not sure.

>> Janet

>> Janet ,

>> 

>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of

>> Rosemarie Chavarria

>> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2021 6:31 PM

>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

>> Subject: Re: [nvda] Voices With NVDA Question Please.

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> Could it be Microsoft Mark?

>> 

>> 

>> On 7/15/2021 4:28 PM, janet wrote:

>> 

>> Brian,

>> > Ok, I finally got my Laptop turned on, and I tried the voices especially

>> > David, and the voice I am talking about and the voice of David, are as

>> > different as day and night.  I turned JAWS, NVDA off, and I turned on

>> > Narrator, and the voice I am talking about and Narrator sound very very

>> > similar.  Could this be possible?

>> >

>> > Janet

>> >

>> >

>> > From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of

>> > Brian Vogel

>> > Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2021 5:52 PM

>> > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

>> > Subject: Re: [nvda] Voices With NVDA Question Please.

>> >

>> > I just installed NVDA 2021.1 and I'll bet my bottom dollar that the

>> > voice now used by the installer is Microsoft David, which is a Microsoft

>> > OneCore Voice.

>> >

>> > I use David as my voice with NVDA, but at a slightly faster rate, and if

>> > it's not Microsoft David it's so close that using MS David would

>> > probably suit anyone who likes that installer voice.

>> > --

>> > Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043

>> > I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their

>> > actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and

>> > expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you

>> > do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

>> >       ~ Brian Vogel

>> >

>> >

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Re: problems wiht the nvda eloquence and sapi eloquence add on/apps

Arlene
 

Phew! I noticed that too. I downloaded a free trial of it back in the xp days.  Dectalk was better in Windoweyes.  Then years later to make a long story short. I tried system access as a free trial. I didn’t like dectalk anymore.  I got used to not having it!  I don’t like it anymore as a synth.  I got used to not having it after the dectalk express bit the dust. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Pamela Dominguez
Sent: July 16, 2021 3:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] problems wiht the nvda eloquence and sapi eloquence add on/apps

 

Eloquence is lower than Dectalk in my window eyes.  Pam.

 

Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2021 12:05 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] problems wiht the nvda eloquence and sapi eloquence add on/apps

 

At what point do you investigate hearing aids?

 

I have powered speakers on my computer or can plug in headphones, and either of those can get very very loud if need be.

 

On 2021-07-15 12:01 p.m., Sarah k Alawami wrote:

No, the inflectioni was a lot more in jaws way back in about 2000 to 2003. And the volume is way too low even with nvda cranked at 100 percent in volume control and in nvda itwwself. I'm now trying the add on and the result is the same, the volume is way way way too low for my liking. I need that thign blasting into my ears.

On 15 Jul 2021, at 7:52, Gene wrote:

I don’t see anything related to inflection in the SAPI program.  However, if you open the settings for Eloquence, not in NVDA, but in the program, you can tab around and see check boxes for volume and a few other settings.  You can check the checkboxs for the item you want and you can then tab to a field where you change the setting.  The check boxes say something like voice force change. 

 

But based  on your description, I wonder if there is a problem with how the SAPI 5 program is running on your machine.  When I tried the demo, there was inflection similar to that of JAWS.  The volume, as I recall, was fine.  I don’t recall if there was a volume setting in NVDA itself when using the program. 

 

If I understand what you are reporting, you hear no inflection.  this is definitely not expected behavior.  I’ve tried the SAPI program on more than one computer and had inflection similar to JAWS.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2021 9:40 AM

Subject: [nvda] problems wiht the nvda eloquence and sapi eloquence add on/apps

 

Hello. I’m trying the eloquence add on and have also tried the sapi add on. I find that:

 

  1. The rate boost is gone.
  2. The inflection slider is missing
  3. The volume of the voice is way too low even at 100 percent.

I guess I’m too used to the IBM tts voice I’ve been using now since about 2017. I’m also used to the old eloquence from about 2003. Lol. Is there any way to get these sliders back with nvda? –

 

 

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Re: loss of nvda hot keys

Pranav Lal
 

Hi all,

 

I can reproduce this with a fair degree of consistency.

  1. Use the program keypass 2.
  2. Copy and paste some user names and passwords into chrome or firefox.
  3. After about 10 to 15 instances of copy and pasting credentials, NVDA’s hotkeys should fail to respond. The best way to check this is to see if the nvda key + q exits nvda. If it does not, you know that the hotkeys are stuck.

 

You then have to restart nvda for the functionality to be restored.

 

Pranav

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 6:12 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] loss of nvda hot keys

 

I'm not familiar with the keys suddenly stopping - do you know, is there an issue on GitHub for this?

 

Firstly, have you restarted your PC after updating NVDA?  And are you using any add-ons?

 

Quentin.

 

On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 2:57 AM Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:

I think it is a known issue that sometimes on what seems to be a ramdom
basis the NVDA hot keys stop working.  Reloading NVDA for me fixes the
problem.
Running the latest version of Win10 with all updates.  I am also running
NVDA 2021.1.  As I said this issue seems to be random but I think the
problem is worse with the 2021.1 version of NVDA.






 

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Re: Voices With NVDA Question Please.

Luis Carlos González Moráles
 

Also the same. Sans the fonology/writing differences is quite the same, Although somehow i cannot? perceive any? differences?

Jujube wrote:

Another good question... I mean English Canada and English US sound pretty much the same to me, plus voice is a personal preference anyway.


Re: reading status bar with nvda

 

Rui has posted about this add-on before, and gave the download link here: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/message/77303 

The version that downloads from the link in the above noted message is compatible only through NVDA 2020.4.  I do not recall whether he has mentioned an intent to update for NVDA 2021.1 or not. There's a lot of water flowing under the various 2021.1 bridges these days.
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 

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