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Re: What exactly is an "object"?

Jujube
 

Hi, I am sure someone else can explain this better than I can but I
think objects can include anything such as buttons, list items, links,
toolbars, status bars etc...

On 7/17/21, Janet Brandly <jbrandly@shaw.ca> wrote:
Hello all,



This may be a stupid question, but perhaps if I understand this more
clearly
it could help me use this InScribe medical transcription program I am
fighting with.



The NVDA users guide talks a lot about objects, object navigation, etc.
What
exactly is an "object"? Please keep in mind that I am not a high-end user
or
a programmer.



Thanks for your explanation.



Janet







Re: speech rate changes to defaults

Chris
 

So I was right then ,

 

From: Gene
Sent: 17 July 2021 18:55
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] speech rate changes to defaults

 

Also, the person tried your solution yesterday and the problem recurred. 

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2021 12:53 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] speech rate changes to defaults

 

That is an unsupported assumption. Nothing was said indicating that.  Without asking, you don’t know if that is the case.  Also, if the change occurred while the program is running, the person would, assumedly, reset the incorrect setting. 

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2021 12:50 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] speech rate changes to defaults

 

But if its set to save automatically on exit  then whatever is causing the settings to be changed is occurring whilst using nvda is running , so when the nvda is set to save on exit then it will save the change at that moment in time

 

 

From: Gene
Sent: 17 July 2021 18:28
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] speech rate changes to defaults

 

That will accomplish nothing.  The default behavior of NVDA is to save settings on exit.  So, if the default is being used, any time the program was exited or Windows was shut down, closing the program, the changes would have been saved after they were made.  Manually saving them before closing the program accomplishes nothing but saving them manually, not automatically.  You are just saving them earlier.

 

If the program isn’t set to save automatically, you are manually saving the settings applying your suggestion, so they are being saved either way.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2021 12:06 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] speech rate changes to defaults

 

Make sure the option to save configuration on nvda exit is unchecked

Then again set your desired setting and save

 

So whatever happens nvda should start with your saved configuration now

 

 

From: George Kerscher
Sent: 17 July 2021 17:45
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] speech rate changes to defaults

 

Hi,

 

It happened again this morning. My configuration was saved. It seems that only the rate reverts to 9 on the rate setting.

 

Any thoughts?

 

Best

George

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris via groups.io
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 8:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] speech rate changes to defaults

 

Try saving the configuration after you have set it to what you want it to be set at

 

 

 

From: George Kerscher
Sent: 16 July 2021 14:46
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] speech rate changes to defaults

 

Hello,

 

On 2021.1, I will be working and the speech rate changes to the default rate of 9. I have been going to the desktop and then go to the speech preferences and set the rate to 24 or 25, which I like. It then works for a long time until it does this again.

 

Just a bug or any other thoughts? Using Microsoft core voices, because my Eloquence is not working yet.

 

Best

George

 

 

Drawing of a guide dog in harness sitting looking up at a dangling rope in front of a mountain wall. Credits, Outdoor Life.

 

George Kerscher Ph.D.

-In our Information Age, access to information is a fundamental human right.

Chief Innovations Officer, DAISY Consortium

http://www.daisy.org

Senior Advisor, Global Literacy, Benetech

http://www.benetech.org

President, International Digital Publishing Forum (IDPF)

http://www.idpf.org

Member of the National Museum and Library Services  Board (IMLS)

http://www.imls.gov

Chair Steering Council Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI), at W3C

http://www.w3.org/WAI

Phone: +1 406/549-4687

Cell:+1 406/544-2466

Email: kerscher@...

 

 

 

 

 


What exactly is an "object"?

Janet Brandly
 

                Hello all,

 

This may be a stupid question, but perhaps if I understand this more clearly it could help me use this InScribe medical transcription program I am fighting with.

 

The NVDA users guide talks a lot about objects, object navigation, etc. What exactly is an “object”? Please keep in mind that I am not a high-end user or a programmer.

 

Thanks for your explanation.

 

Janet


Re: speech rate changes to defaults

Chris
 

Maybe you should read the original message again, maybe it is you who is making assumptions

 

From: Gene
Sent: 17 July 2021 18:54
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] speech rate changes to defaults

 

That is an unsupported assumption. Nothing was said indicating that.  Without asking, you don’t know if that is the case.  Also, if the change occurred while the program is running, the person would, assumedly, reset the incorrect setting. 

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2021 12:50 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] speech rate changes to defaults

 

But if its set to save automatically on exit  then whatever is causing the settings to be changed is occurring whilst using nvda is running , so when the nvda is set to save on exit then it will save the change at that moment in time

 

 

From: Gene
Sent: 17 July 2021 18:28
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] speech rate changes to defaults

 

That will accomplish nothing.  The default behavior of NVDA is to save settings on exit.  So, if the default is being used, any time the program was exited or Windows was shut down, closing the program, the changes would have been saved after they were made.  Manually saving them before closing the program accomplishes nothing but saving them manually, not automatically.  You are just saving them earlier.

 

If the program isn’t set to save automatically, you are manually saving the settings applying your suggestion, so they are being saved either way.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2021 12:06 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] speech rate changes to defaults

 

Make sure the option to save configuration on nvda exit is unchecked

Then again set your desired setting and save

 

So whatever happens nvda should start with your saved configuration now

 

 

From: George Kerscher
Sent: 17 July 2021 17:45
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] speech rate changes to defaults

 

Hi,

 

It happened again this morning. My configuration was saved. It seems that only the rate reverts to 9 on the rate setting.

 

Any thoughts?

 

Best

George

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris via groups.io
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 8:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] speech rate changes to defaults

 

Try saving the configuration after you have set it to what you want it to be set at

 

 

 

From: George Kerscher
Sent: 16 July 2021 14:46
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] speech rate changes to defaults

 

Hello,

 

On 2021.1, I will be working and the speech rate changes to the default rate of 9. I have been going to the desktop and then go to the speech preferences and set the rate to 24 or 25, which I like. It then works for a long time until it does this again.

 

Just a bug or any other thoughts? Using Microsoft core voices, because my Eloquence is not working yet.

 

Best

George

 

 

Drawing of a guide dog in harness sitting looking up at a dangling rope in front of a mountain wall. Credits, Outdoor Life.

 

George Kerscher Ph.D.

-In our Information Age, access to information is a fundamental human right.

Chief Innovations Officer, DAISY Consortium

http://www.daisy.org

Senior Advisor, Global Literacy, Benetech

http://www.benetech.org

President, International Digital Publishing Forum (IDPF)

http://www.idpf.org

Member of the National Museum and Library Services  Board (IMLS)

http://www.imls.gov

Chair Steering Council Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI), at W3C

http://www.w3.org/WAI

Phone: +1 406/549-4687

Cell:+1 406/544-2466

Email: kerscher@...

 

 

 

 

 


Re: speech rate changes to defaults

Gene
 

Also, the person tried your solution yesterday and the problem recurred. 
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2021 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] speech rate changes to defaults
 
That is an unsupported assumption. Nothing was said indicating that.  Without asking, you don’t know if that is the case.  Also, if the change occurred while the program is running, the person would, assumedly, reset the incorrect setting. 
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2021 12:50 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] speech rate changes to defaults
 

But if its set to save automatically on exit  then whatever is causing the settings to be changed is occurring whilst using nvda is running , so when the nvda is set to save on exit then it will save the change at that moment in time

 

 

From: Gene
Sent: 17 July 2021 18:28
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] speech rate changes to defaults

 

That will accomplish nothing.  The default behavior of NVDA is to save settings on exit.  So, if the default is being used, any time the program was exited or Windows was shut down, closing the program, the changes would have been saved after they were made.  Manually saving them before closing the program accomplishes nothing but saving them manually, not automatically.  You are just saving them earlier.

 

If the program isn’t set to save automatically, you are manually saving the settings applying your suggestion, so they are being saved either way.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2021 12:06 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] speech rate changes to defaults

 

Make sure the option to save configuration on nvda exit is unchecked

Then again set your desired setting and save

 

So whatever happens nvda should start with your saved configuration now

 

 

From: George Kerscher
Sent: 17 July 2021 17:45
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] speech rate changes to defaults

 

Hi,

 

It happened again this morning. My configuration was saved. It seems that only the rate reverts to 9 on the rate setting.

 

Any thoughts?

 

Best

George

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris via groups.io
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 8:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] speech rate changes to defaults

 

Try saving the configuration after you have set it to what you want it to be set at

 

 

 

From: George Kerscher
Sent: 16 July 2021 14:46
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] speech rate changes to defaults

 

Hello,

 

On 2021.1, I will be working and the speech rate changes to the default rate of 9. I have been going to the desktop and then go to the speech preferences and set the rate to 24 or 25, which I like. It then works for a long time until it does this again.

 

Just a bug or any other thoughts? Using Microsoft core voices, because my Eloquence is not working yet.

 

Best

George

 

 

Drawing of a guide dog in harness sitting looking up at a dangling rope in front of a mountain wall. Credits, Outdoor Life.

 

George Kerscher Ph.D.

-In our Information Age, access to information is a fundamental human right.

Chief Innovations Officer, DAISY Consortium

http://www.daisy.org

Senior Advisor, Global Literacy, Benetech

http://www.benetech.org

President, International Digital Publishing Forum (IDPF)

http://www.idpf.org

Member of the National Museum and Library Services  Board (IMLS)

http://www.imls.gov

Chair Steering Council Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI), at W3C

http://www.w3.org/WAI

Phone: +1 406/549-4687

Cell:+1 406/544-2466

Email: kerscher@...

 

 

 

 


Problem with having Admin Rights under UAC when using NVDA Remote

Jelal Bairamoglou
 

Problem in Remote in, UAC: User Account Control.Administrator's rights.
When I copy the settings from NVDA, Use Currently Saved Settings During Sign-in and On Secure Screens.
I do not have access rights Administrator, in this case I need to zero the UAC level.
This is a big problem, you need someone to be up there and press yes.
 This is the case after the upgrade.


Re: speech rate changes to defaults

Gene
 

That is an unsupported assumption. Nothing was said indicating that.  Without asking, you don’t know if that is the case.  Also, if the change occurred while the program is running, the person would, assumedly, reset the incorrect setting. 
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2021 12:50 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] speech rate changes to defaults
 

But if its set to save automatically on exit  then whatever is causing the settings to be changed is occurring whilst using nvda is running , so when the nvda is set to save on exit then it will save the change at that moment in time

 

 

From: Gene
Sent: 17 July 2021 18:28
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] speech rate changes to defaults

 

That will accomplish nothing.  The default behavior of NVDA is to save settings on exit.  So, if the default is being used, any time the program was exited or Windows was shut down, closing the program, the changes would have been saved after they were made.  Manually saving them before closing the program accomplishes nothing but saving them manually, not automatically.  You are just saving them earlier.

 

If the program isn’t set to save automatically, you are manually saving the settings applying your suggestion, so they are being saved either way.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2021 12:06 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] speech rate changes to defaults

 

Make sure the option to save configuration on nvda exit is unchecked

Then again set your desired setting and save

 

So whatever happens nvda should start with your saved configuration now

 

 

From: George Kerscher
Sent: 17 July 2021 17:45
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] speech rate changes to defaults

 

Hi,

 

It happened again this morning. My configuration was saved. It seems that only the rate reverts to 9 on the rate setting.

 

Any thoughts?

 

Best

George

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris via groups.io
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 8:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] speech rate changes to defaults

 

Try saving the configuration after you have set it to what you want it to be set at

 

 

 

From: George Kerscher
Sent: 16 July 2021 14:46
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] speech rate changes to defaults

 

Hello,

 

On 2021.1, I will be working and the speech rate changes to the default rate of 9. I have been going to the desktop and then go to the speech preferences and set the rate to 24 or 25, which I like. It then works for a long time until it does this again.

 

Just a bug or any other thoughts? Using Microsoft core voices, because my Eloquence is not working yet.

 

Best

George

 

 

Drawing of a guide dog in harness sitting looking up at a dangling rope in front of a mountain wall. Credits, Outdoor Life.

 

George Kerscher Ph.D.

-In our Information Age, access to information is a fundamental human right.

Chief Innovations Officer, DAISY Consortium

http://www.daisy.org

Senior Advisor, Global Literacy, Benetech

http://www.benetech.org

President, International Digital Publishing Forum (IDPF)

http://www.idpf.org

Member of the National Museum and Library Services  Board (IMLS)

http://www.imls.gov

Chair Steering Council Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI), at W3C

http://www.w3.org/WAI

Phone: +1 406/549-4687

Cell:+1 406/544-2466

Email: kerscher@...

 

 

 

 


Re: speech rate changes to defaults

Chris
 

But if its set to save automatically on exit  then whatever is causing the settings to be changed is occurring whilst using nvda is running , so when the nvda is set to save on exit then it will save the change at that moment in time

 

 

From: Gene
Sent: 17 July 2021 18:28
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] speech rate changes to defaults

 

That will accomplish nothing.  The default behavior of NVDA is to save settings on exit.  So, if the default is being used, any time the program was exited or Windows was shut down, closing the program, the changes would have been saved after they were made.  Manually saving them before closing the program accomplishes nothing but saving them manually, not automatically.  You are just saving them earlier.

 

If the program isn’t set to save automatically, you are manually saving the settings applying your suggestion, so they are being saved either way.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2021 12:06 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] speech rate changes to defaults

 

Make sure the option to save configuration on nvda exit is unchecked

Then again set your desired setting and save

 

So whatever happens nvda should start with your saved configuration now

 

 

From: George Kerscher
Sent: 17 July 2021 17:45
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] speech rate changes to defaults

 

Hi,

 

It happened again this morning. My configuration was saved. It seems that only the rate reverts to 9 on the rate setting.

 

Any thoughts?

 

Best

George

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris via groups.io
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 8:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] speech rate changes to defaults

 

Try saving the configuration after you have set it to what you want it to be set at

 

 

 

From: George Kerscher
Sent: 16 July 2021 14:46
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] speech rate changes to defaults

 

Hello,

 

On 2021.1, I will be working and the speech rate changes to the default rate of 9. I have been going to the desktop and then go to the speech preferences and set the rate to 24 or 25, which I like. It then works for a long time until it does this again.

 

Just a bug or any other thoughts? Using Microsoft core voices, because my Eloquence is not working yet.

 

Best

George

 

 

Drawing of a guide dog in harness sitting looking up at a dangling rope in front of a mountain wall. Credits, Outdoor Life.

 

George Kerscher Ph.D.

-In our Information Age, access to information is a fundamental human right.

Chief Innovations Officer, DAISY Consortium

http://www.daisy.org

Senior Advisor, Global Literacy, Benetech

http://www.benetech.org

President, International Digital Publishing Forum (IDPF)

http://www.idpf.org

Member of the National Museum and Library Services  Board (IMLS)

http://www.imls.gov

Chair Steering Council Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI), at W3C

http://www.w3.org/WAI

Phone: +1 406/549-4687

Cell:+1 406/544-2466

Email: kerscher@...

 

 

 

 


Re: speech rate changes to defaults

Gene
 

That will accomplish nothing.  The default behavior of NVDA is to save settings on exit.  So, if the default is being used, any time the program was exited or Windows was shut down, closing the program, the changes would have been saved after they were made.  Manually saving them before closing the program accomplishes nothing but saving them manually, not automatically.  You are just saving them earlier.
 
If the program isn’t set to save automatically, you are manually saving the settings applying your suggestion, so they are being saved either way.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2021 12:06 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] speech rate changes to defaults
 

Make sure the option to save configuration on nvda exit is unchecked

Then again set your desired setting and save

 

So whatever happens nvda should start with your saved configuration now

 

 

From: George Kerscher
Sent: 17 July 2021 17:45
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] speech rate changes to defaults

 

Hi,

 

It happened again this morning. My configuration was saved. It seems that only the rate reverts to 9 on the rate setting.

 

Any thoughts?

 

Best

George

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris via groups.io
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 8:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] speech rate changes to defaults

 

Try saving the configuration after you have set it to what you want it to be set at

 

 

 

From: George Kerscher
Sent: 16 July 2021 14:46
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] speech rate changes to defaults

 

Hello,

 

On 2021.1, I will be working and the speech rate changes to the default rate of 9. I have been going to the desktop and then go to the speech preferences and set the rate to 24 or 25, which I like. It then works for a long time until it does this again.

 

Just a bug or any other thoughts? Using Microsoft core voices, because my Eloquence is not working yet.

 

Best

George

 

 

Drawing of a guide dog in harness sitting looking up at a dangling rope in front of a mountain wall. Credits, Outdoor Life.

 

George Kerscher Ph.D.

-In our Information Age, access to information is a fundamental human right.

Chief Innovations Officer, DAISY Consortium

http://www.daisy.org

Senior Advisor, Global Literacy, Benetech

http://www.benetech.org

President, International Digital Publishing Forum (IDPF)

http://www.idpf.org

Member of the National Museum and Library Services  Board (IMLS)

http://www.imls.gov

Chair Steering Council Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI), at W3C

http://www.w3.org/WAI

Phone: +1 406/549-4687

Cell:+1 406/544-2466

Email: kerscher@...

 

 

 


Re: speech rate changes to defaults

Gene
 

I don’t know where the settings are saved.  Evidently, something is not being retained.  If you run an installed version, are any of these settings stored in the registry?  If so, the registry has some sort of minor problem and is losing it.  If not, it is evidently being lost wherever it is stored.  I have no solution.
 
Is there any pattern to when the setting is lost?  If you loose it when you reboot, then that would strongly imply a minor registry problem. 
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2021 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] speech rate changes to defaults
 

Hi,

 

It happened again this morning. My configuration was saved. It seems that only the rate reverts to 9 on the rate setting.

 

Any thoughts?

 

Best

George

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris via groups.io
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 8:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] speech rate changes to defaults

 

Try saving the configuration after you have set it to what you want it to be set at

 

 

 

From: George Kerscher
Sent: 16 July 2021 14:46
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] speech rate changes to defaults

 

Hello,

 

On 2021.1, I will be working and the speech rate changes to the default rate of 9. I have been going to the desktop and then go to the speech preferences and set the rate to 24 or 25, which I like. It then works for a long time until it does this again.

 

Just a bug or any other thoughts? Using Microsoft core voices, because my Eloquence is not working yet.

 

Best

George

 

 

Drawing of a guide dog in harness sitting looking up at a dangling rope in front of a mountain wall. Credits, Outdoor Life.

 

George Kerscher Ph.D.

-In our Information Age, access to information is a fundamental human right.

Chief Innovations Officer, DAISY Consortium

http://www.daisy.org

Senior Advisor, Global Literacy, Benetech

http://www.benetech.org

President, International Digital Publishing Forum (IDPF)

http://www.idpf.org

Member of the National Museum and Library Services  Board (IMLS)

http://www.imls.gov

Chair Steering Council Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI), at W3C

http://www.w3.org/WAI

Phone: +1 406/549-4687

Cell:+1 406/544-2466

Email: kerscher@...

 

 


Re: speech rate changes to defaults

Chris
 

Make sure the option to save configuration on nvda exit is unchecked

Then again set your desired setting and save

 

So whatever happens nvda should start with your saved configuration now

 

 

From: George Kerscher
Sent: 17 July 2021 17:45
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] speech rate changes to defaults

 

Hi,

 

It happened again this morning. My configuration was saved. It seems that only the rate reverts to 9 on the rate setting.

 

Any thoughts?

 

Best

George

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris via groups.io
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 8:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] speech rate changes to defaults

 

Try saving the configuration after you have set it to what you want it to be set at

 

 

 

From: George Kerscher
Sent: 16 July 2021 14:46
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] speech rate changes to defaults

 

Hello,

 

On 2021.1, I will be working and the speech rate changes to the default rate of 9. I have been going to the desktop and then go to the speech preferences and set the rate to 24 or 25, which I like. It then works for a long time until it does this again.

 

Just a bug or any other thoughts? Using Microsoft core voices, because my Eloquence is not working yet.

 

Best

George

 

 

 

George Kerscher Ph.D.

-In our Information Age, access to information is a fundamental human right.

Chief Innovations Officer, DAISY Consortium

http://www.daisy.org

Senior Advisor, Global Literacy, Benetech

http://www.benetech.org

President, International Digital Publishing Forum (IDPF)

http://www.idpf.org

Member of the National Museum and Library Services  Board (IMLS)

http://www.imls.gov

Chair Steering Council Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI), at W3C

http://www.w3.org/WAI

Phone: +1 406/549-4687

Cell:+1 406/544-2466

Email: kerscher@...

 

 

 


Re: speech rate changes to defaults

 

If this is changing in Windows itself, and that's how I read what has been offered so far, then my standard advice for fixing "Windows Weirdnesses" applies:

1. Using SFC (System File Checker) and DISM (Deployment Imaging Servicing and Management) to Repair Windows 8 & 10
then, if that didn't fix the issue:
2. Doing a Windows 10 Repair Install or Feature Update Using the Windows 10 ISO file

Neither of the above can hurt anything.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: speech rate changes to defaults

David Goldfield
 

George, if you are using the Windows OneCore voices then I’m a bit baffled at what you are experiencing. What version of Windows are you using?

Are you running any addons? If so does the problem occur if you restart NVDA with addons disabled?

 

David Goldfield,

Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

JAWS Certified, 2019

Subscribe to the Tech-VI announcement list to receive emails regarding news and events in the blindness assistive technology field.

Email: tech-vi+subscribe@groups.io

 

www.DavidGoldfield.org

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of George Kerscher
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2021 12:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] speech rate changes to defaults

 

Hi,

 

It happened again this morning. My configuration was saved. It seems that only the rate reverts to 9 on the rate setting.

 

Any thoughts?

 

Best

George

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris via groups.io
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 8:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] speech rate changes to defaults

 

Try saving the configuration after you have set it to what you want it to be set at

 

 

 

From: George Kerscher
Sent: 16 July 2021 14:46
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] speech rate changes to defaults

 

Hello,

 

On 2021.1, I will be working and the speech rate changes to the default rate of 9. I have been going to the desktop and then go to the speech preferences and set the rate to 24 or 25, which I like. It then works for a long time until it does this again.

 

Just a bug or any other thoughts? Using Microsoft core voices, because my Eloquence is not working yet.

 

Best

George

 

 

 

George Kerscher Ph.D.

-In our Information Age, access to information is a fundamental human right.

Chief Innovations Officer, DAISY Consortium

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Re: speech rate changes to defaults

George Kerscher
 

Hi,

 

It happened again this morning. My configuration was saved. It seems that only the rate reverts to 9 on the rate setting.

 

Any thoughts?

 

Best

George

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris via groups.io
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 8:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] speech rate changes to defaults

 

Try saving the configuration after you have set it to what you want it to be set at

 

 

 

From: George Kerscher
Sent: 16 July 2021 14:46
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] speech rate changes to defaults

 

Hello,

 

On 2021.1, I will be working and the speech rate changes to the default rate of 9. I have been going to the desktop and then go to the speech preferences and set the rate to 24 or 25, which I like. It then works for a long time until it does this again.

 

Just a bug or any other thoughts? Using Microsoft core voices, because my Eloquence is not working yet.

 

Best

George

 

 

 

George Kerscher Ph.D.

-In our Information Age, access to information is a fundamental human right.

Chief Innovations Officer, DAISY Consortium

http://www.daisy.org

Senior Advisor, Global Literacy, Benetech

http://www.benetech.org

President, International Digital Publishing Forum (IDPF)

http://www.idpf.org

Member of the National Museum and Library Services  Board (IMLS)

http://www.imls.gov

Chair Steering Council Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI), at W3C

http://www.w3.org/WAI

Phone: +1 406/549-4687

Cell:+1 406/544-2466

Email: kerscher@...

 

 


Re: Is This a NVDA Setting or is this a Problem with the Site?

 

Martin,

Consider uninstalling and reinstalling Brave itself if you have not dedicated a lot of time to tweaking settings in Brave.

The difficulty here, and through no fault of your own, is that there are just so darned many settings, many of which can interact with each other, and if you've done any fiddling (and particularly if you don't remember specifically what) it becomes impossible for others to replicate the problems you're having.  There could also just be a weirdness with your installation of Brave that might be solved with an uninstall/reinstall.

But using another Chromium-based browser as a workaround is the best quick and dirty solution.  And even if you were to report the issues, and they were common to all Brave users, I've very often gotten the reply from various tech support folks to use Chrome or Edge.  They're never going to test their sites using every possible Chromium-based browser, and if the site works well in all respects using the two major ones then they've definitely done their due diligence.  I only expect testing on Firefox, Chrome, and Edge, at most.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: Is This a NVDA Setting or is this a Problem with the Site?

Martin McCormick
 

"Chris via groups.io" <chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io> writes:
Or possibly a brave setting???
I think it's a brave problem and that was a good
suggestion. I tried Microsoft Edge and everything is normal
there. It's mostly normal with brave but there is a lot of shall
we say, exposed innards babbling away about graphic links and no
available description and what I get with edge is a perfectly
normal screen that doesn't have me scratching my head and
wondering if something is amiss or whether there is a setting I
can tweak to make things just work.

Anyway, thanks.

Martin


Re: Is This a NVDA Setting or is this a Problem with the Site?

Gene
 

I don’t know what accounts for the problem.  I went to the sight and followed the link that said download  on the page.  While I didn’t look at every one, I looked at a lot and all the ones I looked at read.  I followed one or two links and the download dialog opened so I evidently could have downloaded what I had gotten to if I had continued.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2021 6:46 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is This a NVDA Setting or is this a Problem with the Site?
 

Or possibly a brave setting???

 

Looks normal to me in brave, so not sure what you are struggling with regards to the links

 

 

From: Martin McCormick
Sent: 17 July 2021 12:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Is This a NVDA Setting or is this a Problem with the Site?

 

I went to the web site of

 

http://www.silicondust.com

 

which is a company that makes a line of server-type devices and a

few actual servers one can put on their network to stream cable

and over-the-air TV on their WiFi or wired networks.  I have a

device for cable and another for an outside antenna and they are

accessible if one is willing to use a little elbow grease

involving some programming and the use of such applications as

vlc to transcode or convert the mpeg4 packets these devices put

on your home network to mpeg2 which is what movies are encoded

as.

 

                I haven't visited that site in a few years and I also had

not done so with brave which is based on chromium and Windows10

with nvda so I was a little frustrated when I went there to get

the Windows10 software pack that can talk to those devices and

got as far as the Downloads link and then every solitary link

after that said, "graphic no description available."

 

                There would be half a dozen of these no-help tags after

the main header.

 

                I actually got the Mac and Windows software anyway by

using lynx on a Debian Linux command-line system but I was just

lucky that their web site is well enough done that it apparently

does not use javascript in the download portion of the web pages

but the labels I needed were right there and lynx read them plus

the download actually worked fine for both the Macintosh and the

Windows10 archives.

 

                So I am wondering if I have failed to set nvda correctly

since you would think brave should work well for this purpose.

 

                If anybody would like to try www.silicondust.com to see

what they get, go to Downloads and see if you can find your way

around the links just under Downloads.  You don't need to

actually click on the files and download them as I do have them

but it's not very useful to keep hearing "graphic no description

available"  Who knows what one might accidentally click on?

 

                If I can change some setting and make it work, no need to

complain to Tech Support.  If it really is broken, I will

congratulate them on the otherwise well-done site and remind them

that those of us who are blind also use TV and their devices

give us the whole data stream so we can get SAP if the program

has it but having information about what the links do is

necessary to work efficiently.

 

Thanks.

 

Martin McCormick

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Is This a NVDA Setting or is this a Problem with the Site?

Chris
 

Or possibly a brave setting???

 

Looks normal to me in brave, so not sure what you are struggling with regards to the links

 

 

From: Martin McCormick
Sent: 17 July 2021 12:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Is This a NVDA Setting or is this a Problem with the Site?

 

I went to the web site of

 

http://www.silicondust.com

 

which is a company that makes a line of server-type devices and a

few actual servers one can put on their network to stream cable

and over-the-air TV on their WiFi or wired networks.  I have a

device for cable and another for an outside antenna and they are

accessible if one is willing to use a little elbow grease

involving some programming and the use of such applications as

vlc to transcode or convert the mpeg4 packets these devices put

on your home network to mpeg2 which is what movies are encoded

as.

 

                I haven't visited that site in a few years and I also had

not done so with brave which is based on chromium and Windows10

with nvda so I was a little frustrated when I went there to get

the Windows10 software pack that can talk to those devices and

got as far as the Downloads link and then every solitary link

after that said, "graphic no description available."

 

                There would be half a dozen of these no-help tags after

the main header.

 

                I actually got the Mac and Windows software anyway by

using lynx on a Debian Linux command-line system but I was just

lucky that their web site is well enough done that it apparently

does not use javascript in the download portion of the web pages

but the labels I needed were right there and lynx read them plus

the download actually worked fine for both the Macintosh and the

Windows10 archives.

 

                So I am wondering if I have failed to set nvda correctly

since you would think brave should work well for this purpose.

 

                If anybody would like to try www.silicondust.com to see

what they get, go to Downloads and see if you can find your way

around the links just under Downloads.  You don't need to

actually click on the files and download them as I do have them

but it's not very useful to keep hearing "graphic no description

available"  Who knows what one might accidentally click on?

 

                If I can change some setting and make it work, no need to

complain to Tech Support.  If it really is broken, I will

congratulate them on the otherwise well-done site and remind them

that those of us who are blind also use TV and their devices

give us the whole data stream so we can get SAP if the program

has it but having information about what the links do is

necessary to work efficiently.

 

Thanks.

 

Martin McCormick

 

 

 

 

 


Is This a NVDA Setting or is this a Problem with the Site?

Martin McCormick
 

I went to the web site of

http://www.silicondust.com

which is a company that makes a line of server-type devices and a
few actual servers one can put on their network to stream cable
and over-the-air TV on their WiFi or wired networks. I have a
device for cable and another for an outside antenna and they are
accessible if one is willing to use a little elbow grease
involving some programming and the use of such applications as
vlc to transcode or convert the mpeg4 packets these devices put
on your home network to mpeg2 which is what movies are encoded
as.

I haven't visited that site in a few years and I also had
not done so with brave which is based on chromium and Windows10
with nvda so I was a little frustrated when I went there to get
the Windows10 software pack that can talk to those devices and
got as far as the Downloads link and then every solitary link
after that said, "graphic no description available."

There would be half a dozen of these no-help tags after
the main header.

I actually got the Mac and Windows software anyway by
using lynx on a Debian Linux command-line system but I was just
lucky that their web site is well enough done that it apparently
does not use javascript in the download portion of the web pages
but the labels I needed were right there and lynx read them plus
the download actually worked fine for both the Macintosh and the
Windows10 archives.

So I am wondering if I have failed to set nvda correctly
since you would think brave should work well for this purpose.

If anybody would like to try www.silicondust.com to see
what they get, go to Downloads and see if you can find your way
around the links just under Downloads. You don't need to
actually click on the files and download them as I do have them
but it's not very useful to keep hearing "graphic no description
available" Who knows what one might accidentally click on?

If I can change some setting and make it work, no need to
complain to Tech Support. If it really is broken, I will
congratulate them on the otherwise well-done site and remind them
that those of us who are blind also use TV and their devices
give us the whole data stream so we can get SAP if the program
has it but having information about what the links do is
necessary to work efficiently.

Thanks.

Martin McCormick


Re: NVDA remote for iOS

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 


thanks that was the hint I needed.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 5:16 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA remote for iOS

Hi,

I just installed it and tested.

Once connected i turned off quick nav then the keyboard seemed to work fine. I could navigate the start menu, open apps etc




On 16 Jul 2021, at 10:16, Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@...> wrote:


I just installed it on my phone and was able to connect it to my laptop. that was all I was able to do with it. the screen never changed. yes, I practically always use a keyboard with my phone.

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