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Re: Problem with having Admin Rights under UAC when using NVDA Remote

Sarah k Alawami
 

I've been having that problem since nvda remote was released. I lost control of someone's computer and they had to hit yes, this was 2 years ago when I was showing them something.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jelal Bairamoglou
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2021 10:46 AM
To: NVDAGroups <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Problem with having Admin Rights under UAC when using NVDA Remote

Problem in Remote in, UAC: User Account Control.Administrator's rights.
When I copy the settings from NVDA, Use Currently Saved Settings During Sign-in and On Secure Screens.
I do not have access rights Administrator, in this case I need to zero the UAC level.
This is a big problem, you need someone to be up there and press yes.
This is the case after the upgrade.


Re: NVDA object enhancer addon

 

Hi all,

Brian's vision is becoming clearer - a comet is coming closer that will bring his vision to life. Ask me offlist for the meaning of my statement.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: NVDA object enhancer addon

 

On Sat, Jul 17, 2021 at 06:49 PM, Josh Kennedy wrote:
could someone please put the object enhancer customizer addon, onto the NVDA community addons page
-
That is almost entirely at the discretion of the add-on developer, who must submit the add-on for vetting before it lands there.  And many do not want to do this for a variety of reasons.

I have been pushing/arguing/begging for years that the NVDA Community Add-Ons Page have some option to present Vetted Add-Ons along with a separate section, or page, for unvetted "home grown" add-ons created by various community members.  The fact of the matter is that:

1.  Many developers do not want to undergo the vetting process.
2.  Though vetting is, without doubt, valuable since experienced developers can examine code for fitness, security, etc., and make recommendations to the developer for "tying up any loose ends" in their code, it's not essential.  Both the user community and developer benefit from this process, but it's not essential.
3.  There are quite a few add-ons that have been in common circulation for years that are home grown and unvetted.  They work for those who need the functionality they offer.
4. Users of NVDA are, or should be, perfectly capable of understanding that listing of an add-on on a separate unvetted/at your own risk page means just that.  NVAccess is not responsible for anything that happens when one chooses to use those add-ons.  But it's still a service to the community to have a central distribution point for NVDA add-ons that developers want to place there, but who do not wish to undergo the rigors of the vetting process.

One of the many beauties of NVDA is the abundance of add-ons that have been home grown to address some specific user's need that could then be shared if the person who created it is so inclined.  But right now there is no place to do that, and making that an extension of the existing "add-ons marketplace" is what makes sense.
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Re: NVDA object enhancer addon

Jackie
 

The language is Dutch.

On 7/17/21, hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi

I agree as well.


Plus a english translation in the add on I am not sure what language it
is in but Rui done a quick translation for it in english in a email


So as long as you can follow directions you are right plus it works with
nvda 2021.1 as well.


Gene nz


On 18/07/2021 10:49 am, Josh Kennedy wrote:
could someone please put the object enhancer customizer addon, onto
the NVDA community addons page so it can be found and installed
easier? Currently it is only available through a dropbox link.

thanks




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Re: NVDA object enhancer addon

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi

I agree as well.


Plus a english translation in the add on I am not sure what language it is in but Rui done a quick translation for it in english in a email


So as long as you can follow directions you are right plus it works with nvda 2021.1 as well.


Gene nz


On 18/07/2021 10:49 am, Josh Kennedy wrote:
could someone please put the object enhancer customizer addon, onto the NVDA community addons page so it can be found and installed easier? Currently it is only available through a dropbox link. 

thanks


NVDA object enhancer addon

Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...>
 

could someone please put the object enhancer customizer addon, onto the NVDA community addons page so it can be found and installed easier? Currently it is only available through a dropbox link. 

thanks


Re: Is the NVDA Commands Quick Reference available in some searchable document format? (e.g. PDF, docx)

Jackie
 

Weird. Thanks for the heads-up on the PDF-Xchange viewer. I've
downloaded it now just because I often get requests from folks who
need a free OCR solution.

On 7/17/21, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
Jackie,

I don't use Adobe Acrobat DC, as I've not cared for Adobe's own readers for
some years now, and they keep getting worse and worse as far as my personal
taste goes.  I've been using Tracker Software's PDF-XChange Viewer for
years, even though they call it a "discontinued download" it's still
available from their site and they've updated it many times since its
deprecation to discontinued status.  It is absolutely not a good general
purpose reader for screen reader users, as it's not accessible in its
entirety (or even close to it) and will never become so.  That being said, I
often recommend it to blind users who need to OCR process lots of old
image-scanned PDFs and save the resulting text layer along with the original
image content and never need to OCR it again (and to be able to give it to
the source of the original file and ask them to use it instead so no one has
to do this work again).  It's OCR capabilities are remarkable, and free, and
in addition to English, Spanish, German, and French that "come with" you can
also get many additional language packs, either separately or all of them at
once, for no cost.  And the OCR function is entirely accessible, and proved
to be invaluable for several of my former clients who were in graduate
school at the time and got lots of ancient image scanned PDFs as part of
their course reading material.  I also had a private client at one point who
found the ability to OCR Swedish language texts really, really helpful.

I'm printing out of Brave and have used PDF Creator (my usual preferred
virtual printing utility), Brave's own Print to PDF option, and Microsoft's
Print to PDF virtual printer.  The only one of those that's created a PDF
that I can then apply OCR on successfully, for the NVDA 2021.1 Commands
Quick Reference, is MS's.  That's never happened to me in the past, and I
could not begin to count how many PDFs I've generated via virtual printers,
particularly PDF Creator, that did not have this issue.
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Re: Is the NVDA Commands Quick Reference available in some searchable document format? (e.g. PDF, docx)

 

Jackie,

I don't use Adobe Acrobat DC, as I've not cared for Adobe's own readers for some years now, and they keep getting worse and worse as far as my personal taste goes.  I've been using Tracker Software's PDF-XChange Viewer for years, even though they call it a "discontinued download" it's still available from their site and they've updated it many times since its deprecation to discontinued status.  It is absolutely not a good general purpose reader for screen reader users, as it's not accessible in its entirety (or even close to it) and will never become so.  That being said, I often recommend it to blind users who need to OCR process lots of old image-scanned PDFs and save the resulting text layer along with the original image content and never need to OCR it again (and to be able to give it to the source of the original file and ask them to use it instead so no one has to do this work again).  It's OCR capabilities are remarkable, and free, and in addition to English, Spanish, German, and French that "come with" you can also get many additional language packs, either separately or all of them at once, for no cost.  And the OCR function is entirely accessible, and proved to be invaluable for several of my former clients who were in graduate school at the time and got lots of ancient image scanned PDFs as part of their course reading material.  I also had a private client at one point who found the ability to OCR Swedish language texts really, really helpful.

I'm printing out of Brave and have used PDF Creator (my usual preferred virtual printing utility), Brave's own Print to PDF option, and Microsoft's Print to PDF virtual printer.  The only one of those that's created a PDF that I can then apply OCR on successfully, for the NVDA 2021.1 Commands Quick Reference, is MS's.  That's never happened to me in the past, and I could not begin to count how many PDFs I've generated via virtual printers, particularly PDF Creator, that did not have this issue.
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I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

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Re: Two Janets was NVDA find command not working

Jackie
 

Thanks, Brian, :). She was incredibly gracious about it all. I guess
it is an easy mistake to make. 1 time I had an acquaintance whose
girlfriend's name was also Jackie accidentally send me some very
private material that was clearly meant for her lol. In that case
auto-complete struck again. In my case it was stupidity pure & simple.

On 7/17/21, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Jul 17, 2021 at 05:25 PM, Jackie wrote:


I'm an idiot.
-
Of the many things I might be inclined to use as a descriptor for you, idiot
is not among those.  You're human, that's for sure, and made a mistake
that's very, very easy to make!
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Re: Is the NVDA Commands Quick Reference available in some searchable document format? (e.g. PDF, docx)

Jackie
 

Brian, using Firefox & Microsoft print to pdf, I was able to use
ctrl+NVDA+f to search text in Acrobat, using the 32-bit version. The
reading is terrible, because, for some reason, spaces in acrobat
reader aren't being recognized anymore, so just about every Acrobat
document reads crappy now. But it works.

What also worked for me is to do a quick ctrl+a, ctrl+c & paste it in
either Wordpad, Notepad, or Word.

I know you know these methods, I'm certainly not trying to be
condescending, so I'm wondering precisely what versions of browser &
Acrobat you're using?

On 7/17/21, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Jul 17, 2021 at 05:27 PM, Jackie wrote:


printing using the Microsoft print to
pdf utility also works.
-
I'll also try that, but what I'm trying to say is that none of these print
to PDF options is generating a searchable PDF, and even if I manually run
OCR on those files in PDF-XChange Viewer, and save the result, I get nada as
far as searchability.

It's the strangest thing I've ever encountered.  I would have thought, given
that the source HTML file is almost purely text based, that any resulting
PDF generated via any virtual printer method would have defaulted to being a
searchable PDF with no need to do OCR processing on it to begin with.

But the OCR just not working is just bizarre.  I've done OCR on source
material many times that were image scanned PDFs with "sketchy quality"
source material or scanning or both, where the OCR results are perfect or
close to it.  Strange . . .
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Re: Is the NVDA Commands Quick Reference available in some searchable document format? (e.g. PDF, docx)

 

On Sat, Jul 17, 2021 at 05:27 PM, Jackie wrote:
Microsoft print to pdf utility also works.
-
By the way, I just tried this method to create the PDF, and although the initial result is not searchable, the OCR processing on that file by PDF-XChange Viewer does work, so I can save the text layer as part of the processed file and have it be searchable when I next open it.

This is the first and only time that I've ever hit any PDF file created by one virtual printer versus another be able to be successfully OCR processed for only one of those virtual printer files.  

But, as I frequently say, we all need to have backup/workaround methods in our back pockets when our preferred method doesn't want to cooperate!
 
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I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: Is the NVDA Commands Quick Reference available in some searchable document format? (e.g. PDF, docx)

 

On Sat, Jul 17, 2021 at 05:27 PM, Jackie wrote:
printing using the Microsoft print to
pdf utility also works.
-
I'll also try that, but what I'm trying to say is that none of these print to PDF options is generating a searchable PDF, and even if I manually run OCR on those files in PDF-XChange Viewer, and save the result, I get nada as far as searchability.

It's the strangest thing I've ever encountered.  I would have thought, given that the source HTML file is almost purely text based, that any resulting PDF generated via any virtual printer method would have defaulted to being a searchable PDF with no need to do OCR processing on it to begin with.

But the OCR just not working is just bizarre.  I've done OCR on source material many times that were image scanned PDFs with "sketchy quality" source material or scanning or both, where the OCR results are perfect or close to it.  Strange . . .
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I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: Two Janets was NVDA find command not working

 

On Sat, Jul 17, 2021 at 05:25 PM, Jackie wrote:
I'm an idiot.
-
Of the many things I might be inclined to use as a descriptor for you, idiot is not among those.  You're human, that's for sure, and made a mistake that's very, very easy to make!
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I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: Is the NVDA Commands Quick Reference available in some searchable document format? (e.g. PDF, docx)

Jackie
 

& if you *really* want a pdf, printing using the Microsoft print to
pdf utility also works.

On 7/17/21, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you gentlemen.  Both of those are useful workarounds.

I do have to say I'd like to keep the formatting, though.  I'll try opening
one of the PDFs using word, and saving out the resulting docx to see what
happens.

The above being said, I can't imagine that it would be difficult to "pack
and ship" a searchable document format of this reference with NVDA itself,
but I may be the very odd bird who likes to have these references available
separate from the screen reader even when I am using the screen reader.
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Re: Two Janets was NVDA find command not working

 

On Sat, Jul 17, 2021 at 05:15 PM, Janet Brandly wrote:
It is another Janet who was asking about voices for NVDA
-
This is one reason I really encourage people who want to use their given names to, at the very least, give the initial letter of their surname when setting up an account.

I can't count the number of Chrises and Mikes, to name but two, that I see within and across groups.  And remembering which Chris or Mike is which is a PITA.

Groups.io actually gives you the ability to tweak your Display Name, among other things, on this specific account page:  https://groups.io/account?page=profile&member_info_id=0 
You do, of course, have to log in or be logged in prior to going there.  Even if you choose a distinctive display name that's better than a single, dirt common (and that's not an insult, just an observation, as Brian is about as dirt common as given names come) display name.  Hence the reason I chose to have my full, real name as my Display Name.  But I could have gone with something like "Bri the Tech Guy" and it would still be very easy to distinguish me from all the other Brians who show up simply as "Brian" or with no display name at all.
 
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Re: Two Janets was NVDA find command not working

Jackie
 

O, gosh, I'm so sorry, Janet. I'm an idiot. What can I say?

On 7/17/21, Janet Brandly <jbrandly@shaw.ca> wrote:
Hi Jackie,

It is another Janet who was asking about voices for NVDA. AS for "find", I
have tried both versions.

Thanks,

Janet B

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jackie
Sent: July 17, 2021 2:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA find command not working

Janet, might I ask what keys you're pressing to find material on screen?

I ask this because NVDA can work w/2 versions of the find command. The
well-known one is control f. That one actually is generally owned by the
particular application in use, ie, Word, Notepad, etc. The 2nd 1, NVDA
+control + f, is generally used in a "virtual cursor" situation, ie, a web
browser, etc. So I guess the question I'm really asking--& taking the very
very long way around the barn to do it--is whether you've tried both
commands w/this program.

Also, regarding your voices thread, I note that your email is a Canadian
one, so you should have Canadian voices installed by default, & I suspect
that's what you're hearing. If so, you're correct--they're absolutely
stunning--& the good news for you is that you won't likely even have to
install them, as they already are if you've set your region to Canada.

On 7/16/21, Arlene <nedster66@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, I’ve heard of that program. Good luck with your Medical
transcription.



Sent from Mail for Windows 10



From: Janet Brandly
Sent: July 16, 2021 6:31 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA find command not working



Hi Brian,



No, not harsh at all.



I am trying to use a medical transcription program called InScribe,
version 7. Unfortunately, for anyone to help, they would have to have
the software installed on their computer. I just thought I would ask
just to see whether anyone had any general tips/tricks they might have
found helpful in similar situations with other programs, not necessarily
this specific program.



Thanks anyway,



Janet



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian
Vogel
Sent: July 15, 2021 2:42 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA find command not working



Janet,

Several points, and none meant to sound as harsh as they may be taken to
be:

1. What is the "complicated transcription program"? Generalities do
not help. Identifying software and version is essential as no one can
divine what you're using nor know whether they've used it themselves.

2. I presume this is medical transcription, and understand the
privacy concerns. But can you not replicate the issue when you create
a "junk document" where you paste in completely non-private text from
somewhere?
That would potentially allow someone to offer remote assistance or for
you to share the screen.

There is no way, really, to assist based on the dearth of specific
information. Any potential assistant needs to know what program(s)
are involved, or websites, etc.
--

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I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their
actions.
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do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

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Two Janets was NVDA find command not working

Janet Brandly
 

Hi Jackie,

It is another Janet who was asking about voices for NVDA. AS for "find", I have tried both versions.

Thanks,

Janet B

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jackie
Sent: July 17, 2021 2:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA find command not working

Janet, might I ask what keys you're pressing to find material on screen?

I ask this because NVDA can work w/2 versions of the find command. The well-known one is control f. That one actually is generally owned by the particular application in use, ie, Word, Notepad, etc. The 2nd 1, NVDA +control + f, is generally used in a "virtual cursor" situation, ie, a web browser, etc. So I guess the question I'm really asking--& taking the very very long way around the barn to do it--is whether you've tried both commands w/this program.

Also, regarding your voices thread, I note that your email is a Canadian one, so you should have Canadian voices installed by default, & I suspect that's what you're hearing. If so, you're correct--they're absolutely stunning--& the good news for you is that you won't likely even have to install them, as they already are if you've set your region to Canada.

On 7/16/21, Arlene <nedster66@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, I’ve heard of that program. Good luck with your Medical transcription.



Sent from Mail for Windows 10



From: Janet Brandly
Sent: July 16, 2021 6:31 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA find command not working



Hi Brian,



No, not harsh at all.



I am trying to use a medical transcription program called InScribe,
version 7. Unfortunately, for anyone to help, they would have to have
the software installed on their computer. I just thought I would ask
just to see whether anyone had any general tips/tricks they might have
found helpful in similar situations with other programs, not necessarily this specific program.



Thanks anyway,



Janet



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian
Vogel
Sent: July 15, 2021 2:42 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA find command not working



Janet,

Several points, and none meant to sound as harsh as they may be taken to be:

1. What is the "complicated transcription program"? Generalities do
not help. Identifying software and version is essential as no one can
divine what you're using nor know whether they've used it themselves.

2. I presume this is medical transcription, and understand the
privacy concerns. But can you not replicate the issue when you create
a "junk document" where you paste in completely non-private text from somewhere?
That would potentially allow someone to offer remote assistance or for
you to share the screen.

There is no way, really, to assist based on the dearth of specific
information. Any potential assistant needs to know what program(s)
are involved, or websites, etc.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043

I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.
The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and
expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body. What you
do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

~ Brian Vogel






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Re: NVDA find command not working

Jackie
 

Janet, might I ask what keys you're pressing to find material on screen?

I ask this because NVDA can work w/2 versions of the find command. The
well-known one is control f. That one actually is generally owned by
the particular application in use, ie, Word, Notepad, etc. The 2nd 1,
NVDA +control + f, is generally used in a "virtual cursor" situation,
ie, a web browser, etc. So I guess the question I'm really asking--&
taking the very very long way around the barn to do it--is whether
you've tried both commands w/this program.

Also, regarding your voices thread, I note that your email is a
Canadian one, so you should have Canadian voices installed by default,
& I suspect that's what you're hearing. If so, you're correct--they're
absolutely stunning--& the good news for you is that you won't likely
even have to install them, as they already are if you've set your
region to Canada.

On 7/16/21, Arlene <nedster66@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, I’ve heard of that program. Good luck with your Medical transcription.



Sent from Mail for Windows 10



From: Janet Brandly
Sent: July 16, 2021 6:31 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA find command not working



Hi Brian,



No, not harsh at all.



I am trying to use a medical transcription program called InScribe, version
7. Unfortunately, for anyone to help, they would have to have the software
installed on their computer. I just thought I would ask just to see whether
anyone had any general tips/tricks they might have found helpful in similar
situations with other programs, not necessarily this specific program.



Thanks anyway,



Janet



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: July 15, 2021 2:42 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA find command not working



Janet,

Several points, and none meant to sound as harsh as they may be taken to be:

1.  What is the "complicated transcription program"?  Generalities do not
help.  Identifying software and version is essential as no one can divine
what you're using nor know whether they've used it themselves.

2.  I presume this is medical transcription, and understand the privacy
concerns.  But can you not replicate the issue when you create a "junk
document" where you paste in completely non-private text from somewhere?
That would potentially allow someone to offer remote assistance or for you
to share the screen.

There is no way, really, to assist based on the dearth of specific
information.  Any potential assistant needs to know what program(s) are
involved, or websites, etc.
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      ~ Brian Vogel





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Re: Is the NVDA Commands Quick Reference available in some searchable document format? (e.g. PDF, docx)

 

Thank you gentlemen.  Both of those are useful workarounds.

I do have to say I'd like to keep the formatting, though.  I'll try opening one of the PDFs using word, and saving out the resulting docx to see what happens.

The above being said, I can't imagine that it would be difficult to "pack and ship" a searchable document format of this reference with NVDA itself, but I may be the very odd bird who likes to have these references available separate from the screen reader even when I am using the screen reader.
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: Another object question,

 

On Sat, Jul 17, 2021 at 04:20 PM, Gene wrote:
It’s a question of learning commands for moving among and within objects.  An object may have another object in it, by analogy something like a table and a leg attached to the table.  The table is the object that is at a higher level and the leg is the object you move down to.
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And that's it, right there.  Practice, practice, practice without attempting to do anything productive while you're trying to get a sense of the object structure of whatever it is you happen to be working on.  And that something should ideally be a completed version of "whatever the whole thing happens to be" so that your noodling around to explore its object structure will reveal most, if not all, of what you need to know when dealing with similar objects (in the broad sense of that word, like Word Documents, web pages, etc.) going forward.
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 

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