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Re: Update appears to have broken Musescore accessibility with NVDA

 

On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 07:40 PM, Christopher Bartlett wrote:
21H2
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I presume you mean 21H1, but for the sake of complete clarity.  If you're on an insider build, that adds complications.
 
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Re: Update appears to have broken Musescore accessibility with NVDA

Christopher Bartlett
 

To be clear, I know how to edit text and tempo markings in MuseScore, and how to set them up.  What I was experiencing was that the dialogue described above does not appear for me: NVDA 2021.1 win 10 21H2 and MuseScore 3.62.  I should have put those in the first message.

CWB


On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 10:57 AM Jujube <ellaxyu@...> wrote:
Oh wow I will have to check that. I also use Musescore a bit but I
have not opened it as of late. I know NVDA has some of the best
support for Musescore and I have to admit that it was certainly a
factor in choosing it as my main screen reader so yeah...

On 7/22/21, Christopher Bartlett <themusicalbrewer@...> wrote:
> This may not affect a lot of people, but I went to edit a musical score
> this morning, and I had lost access to most of my controls.  I know that
> the Musescore folk have been doing a lot of accessibility-focused work, so
> I was a little surprised.  I'll also be reporting this on their forums.
> (fora?)
>
> Christopher Bartlett
> p.s.  Example, when attempting to edit a tempo marking, a dialogue is
> supposed to appear, allowing you to change the BPM, and the note length
> that forms the beat.  After updating to 2021.1, that dialogue may be
> visible, I don't know, but NVDA doesn't appear to see it, either in normal
> mode, nor even as an object in object navigation mode.
>
>
> --
> Christopher Bartlett
>
>
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Re: Problem with having Admin Rights under UAC when using NVDA Remote

Jelal Bairamoglou
 


Thank you very much for the answer you give me.
The first I tried from the NVDA USSE Currently Saved Settings During Signed Settings and then I tried to do it manually. Unfortunately, this feature is not working on me and this happens after upgrading.
I am impressed that someone else did not mention this problem obviously did not have a problem there is something that I do not know I.
Again thanks for your interest and the answer you gave.

On 22/7/2021 7:08 μ.μ., Carlos Esteban Martínez Macías via groups.io wrote:

Hi all.

No, NV Access say in the user guide that for copy the optioins in the scure screen, the form is press NVDA+control+g, and press de button “Use currently saved settings during sign-in and on secure screens (requires administrator privileges)”. Of course, your action is the same that NVDA make, but I don’t know if a part of the process is different when NVDA copy it.

Regards.

 

 

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Soporte a usuarios, comunidad de NVDA en español.

Web www.nvda.es

Experto certificado en NVDA

 

De: Jelal Bairamoglou
Enviado: martes, 20 de julio de 2021 23:16
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Asunto: Re: [nvda] Problem with having Admin Rights under UAC when using NVDA Remote

 

 

I removed all items from the following path: %HomeDrive%\Program Files (x86)\NVDA\systemConfig
I copied all items from the following path
%AppData%\nvda
Does not work properly as with previous addon.
The problem occurred after the new upgrade: remote-2.4.nvda-addon.

On 21/7/2021 1:21 π.μ., Carlos Esteban Martínez Macías via groups.io wrote:

Hi all.

You can test disable addons, but led enabled NVDA Remote and if you want, a synth Driver and another important addon for you, copy again the options for secure screens and go back to enable all the addons for your install copy. In some cases, this is the solution for this problems, but depend of your NVDA copy.

Regards.

 

 

Carlos Esteban Martínez Macías.

Soporte a usuarios, comunidad de NVDA en español.

Web www.nvda.es

Experto certificado en NVDA

 

De: Jelal Bairamoglou
Enviado: lunes, 19 de julio de 2021 10:43
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Asunto: Re: [nvda] Problem with having Admin Rights under UAC when using NVDA Remote

 

 

I have checked this for both computers and does not work.

They all worked all the problem occurred after the remote upgrade.

 

On 19/7/2021 6:43 π.μ., George McCoy wrote:

> I read, in the first iteration documentation that UaC works if both

> computers have NVDA set to speak at the logon screen. I have several

> clients whose systems are set up that way and I have no issues with UAC.

> George

>

 

 

 

 

 


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Re: Unable to connect to NVDA Remote Server

Mobeen Iqbal
 

Hi.

Don't you also have to specify the port in the add-on configuration? Unless you also change it in the code, it probably won't work. There should be something in the documentation on how to specify the correct port on the client side.

Cheers,

Mo.

On 22/07/2021 14:32, Mobeen Iqbal via groups.io wrote:
Hi.

Are the correct ports open and accessible? I believe port 6837 needs to be open.

cheers,

Mo.


On 22/07/2021 08:20, arqam mehmood wrote:
Hi everyone.
I've recently installed NVDA Remote Server on my debian server.
everything is ok.
when i check sudo NVDARemoteServer status.
  it says, active.
but when I tried to connect through my client, it won't connect.
any idea what is the problem?
Arqam Mehmood.







Re: Unable to connect to NVDA Remote Server

arqam mehmood
 

Hi.
I've changed the ports from the configuration file.
and allowed from the firewall.

On 7/22/21, Mobeen Iqbal <mobeeniqbal@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi.

Are the correct ports open and accessible? I believe port 6837 needs to
be open.

cheers,

Mo.


On 22/07/2021 08:20, arqam mehmood wrote:
Hi everyone.
I've recently installed NVDA Remote Server on my debian server.
everything is ok.
when i check sudo NVDARemoteServer status.
it says, active.
but when I tried to connect through my client, it won't connect.
any idea what is the problem?
Arqam Mehmood.









Re: Clock v21.07 #addonrelease

Chris Smart
 

Thank you.


Clock v21.07 #addonrelease

zvonimir stanečić, 9a5dsz
 

Hi to al.!

I would like tonform you all, that the clock addon version 21.07, compatible with NVDA 2021.1 is released.

I would like to Thank Joseph Lee for pointing me how to go further with this!

The link is:

https://github.com/hkatic/clock/releases/download/v21.07/clock-21.07.nvda-addon

Note! This should appear in the addon updater in some time.

Best,

Zvonimir

 


Re: Compatibility of EnhancedPhoneticReading AddOn?

 

David,

If you don't have a GitHub account this is the perfect example of why having one is handy.  There already exists an open issue:

https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/8822 

that you could add a comment to that deals with phonetic character reading.  The capability already exists in the NVDA core, but the request was for settings to be implemented that allowed it to "remain on" until you turned it off rather than having to go through the key sequence for each and every character.

I see also that EnhancedPhoneticReading is noted as being one of Tony Malykh's add-ons, and he's still around as far as I know.  On the add-ons compatibility page his email address is given as anton.malykh@....

But if you would like to see this functionality in the NVDA core the best place you can voice that is on GitHub.
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Re: Compatibility of EnhancedPhoneticReading AddOn?

David Griffith
 

I emailed the developer several weeks ago to ask for it to be updated  in the then upcoming NVDA release but got no response at all so I suspect it has actually been abandoned.

As you say we were lucky that Rui Fontes stepped into the breach to update it.

As it essential for Hearing impaired users of NVDA like myself I strongly believe this is a case where this functionality should be incorporated into the core of NVDA to assist deaf blind users to prevent vulnerability to breakage in the future.

David Griffith

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: 22 July 2021 18:05
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Compatibility of EnhancedPhoneticReading AddOn?

 

I'm reviving this topic for one reason only, this particular add-on is, from all appearances, entirely "home grown" as it does not appear on the Community Add-Ons page nor on the Add-Ons Compatibility Page (which includes some non-official add-ons as well).

Rui Fontes has provided a modification for compatibility with NVDA 2021.1 here:  https://www.dropbox.com/s/q75mnyttr34zjpm/EnhancedPhoneticReading_0.5a2_Gen.nvda-addon?dl=1

Anyone who might happen to know how to contact the original developer of this add-on should do so to determine whether he or she is still maintaining it, and whether he or she has any intention of doing an update to the original source for compatibility with NVDA 2021.1.  I have no idea who created or is maintaining this add-on, but responsibility for ongoing maintenance falls to them or their successor(s).
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Re: Compatibility of EnhancedPhoneticReading AddOn?

 

I'm reviving this topic for one reason only, this particular add-on is, from all appearances, entirely "home grown" as it does not appear on the Community Add-Ons page nor on the Add-Ons Compatibility Page (which includes some non-official add-ons as well).

Rui Fontes has provided a modification for compatibility with NVDA 2021.1 here:  https://www.dropbox.com/s/q75mnyttr34zjpm/EnhancedPhoneticReading_0.5a2_Gen.nvda-addon?dl=1

Anyone who might happen to know how to contact the original developer of this add-on should do so to determine whether he or she is still maintaining it, and whether he or she has any intention of doing an update to the original source for compatibility with NVDA 2021.1.  I have no idea who created or is maintaining this add-on, but responsibility for ongoing maintenance falls to them or their successor(s).
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Re: Clock and calendar Add-on for NVDA - Compatibility with NVDA 2021.1 & forward

 

On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 12:13 PM, zvonimir stanečić, 9a5dsz wrote:
I've pushed thecorresponding changes to the github repo, but I don't know how to release it.
-
I presume you are a member of the NVDA Add-On Development group, but if not, please join and ask there, as that's outside the scope of the NVDA Group.

It's also clear that "those that know how" haunt the above noted group.

NVDA Add-On Developers Group, AKA NVDA Add-Ons Central

This group is focused on the development of NVDA Add-Ons.  It is not an end-user support group, though end-user input to aid the development process and/or testing is welcome.

Archive: https://nvda-addons.groups.io/g/nvda-addons/topics .

 
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Re: Clock and calendar Add-on for NVDA - Compatibility with NVDA 2021.1 & forward

zvonimir stanečić, 9a5dsz
 

Hi,
I've pushed thecorresponding changes to the github repo, but I don't know how to release it.
Best,
Zvonimir

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of tony via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2021 5:51 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Clock and calendar Add-on for NVDA - Compatibility with NVDA 2021.1 & forward

Will be any update the add on for the Clock and calendar Add-on for NVDA

thank you


Re: Problem with having Admin Rights under UAC when using NVDA Remote

Carlos Esteban Martínez Macías
 

Sorry for my typing error, is options. Yes, is possible edit a message in groups.yo, but I don’t use the web of groups.yo many times.

Regards.

 

 

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De: Carlos Esteban Martínez Macías via groups.io
Enviado: jueves, 22 de julio de 2021 11:08
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Asunto: Re: [nvda] Problem with having Admin Rights under UAC when using NVDA Remote

 

Hi all.

No, NV Access say in the user guide that for copy the optioins in the scure screen, the form is press NVDA+control+g, and press de button “Use currently saved settings during sign-in and on secure screens (requires administrator privileges)”. Of course, your action is the same that NVDA make, but I don’t know if a part of the process is different when NVDA copy it.

Regards.

 

 

Carlos Esteban Martínez Macías.

Soporte a usuarios, comunidad de NVDA en español.

Web www.nvda.es

Experto certificado en NVDA

 

De: Jelal Bairamoglou
Enviado: martes, 20 de julio de 2021 23:16
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Asunto: Re: [nvda] Problem with having Admin Rights under UAC when using NVDA Remote

 

 

I removed all items from the following path: %HomeDrive%\Program Files (x86)\NVDA\systemConfig
I copied all items from the following path
%AppData%\nvda
Does not work properly as with previous addon.
The problem occurred after the new upgrade: remote-2.4.nvda-addon.

On 21/7/2021 1:21 π.μ., Carlos Esteban Martínez Macías via groups.io wrote:

Hi all.

You can test disable addons, but led enabled NVDA Remote and if you want, a synth Driver and another important addon for you, copy again the options for secure screens and go back to enable all the addons for your install copy. In some cases, this is the solution for this problems, but depend of your NVDA copy.

Regards.

 

 

Carlos Esteban Martínez Macías.

Soporte a usuarios, comunidad de NVDA en español.

Web www.nvda.es

Experto certificado en NVDA

 

De: Jelal Bairamoglou
Enviado: lunes, 19 de julio de 2021 10:43
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Asunto: Re: [nvda] Problem with having Admin Rights under UAC when using NVDA Remote

 

 

I have checked this for both computers and does not work.

They all worked all the problem occurred after the remote upgrade.

 

On 19/7/2021 6:43 π.μ., George McCoy wrote:

> I read, in the first iteration documentation that UaC works if both

> computers have NVDA set to speak at the logon screen. I have several

> clients whose systems are set up that way and I have no issues with UAC.

> George

>

 

 

 

 

 


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Re: Shortcut commands stopping working in NVDA

 

On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 11:50 AM, Curtis Delzer wrote:
But, Gene is pointing out a behavior which has nothing to do whatever with anything truly "sticking" in the real world, but only in the electronic one.
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Which I came to understand, and acknowledged long ago (over 18 hours ago) here:  https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/message/86555 

Please read through the entirety of a topic before posting any reply.  One of the reasons the group rules strongly encourage this is so that things that have already been resolved don't generate additional, and unnecessary, traffic.
 
And, yes, I will be getting more picky about this in the coming weeks and months.  All members should be entirely up to speed, preferably by using threaded/conversation view in their chosen e-mail clients, and having read the entirety of a topic's new content before responding.  It's not too much to ask.
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Re: Problem with having Admin Rights under UAC when using NVDA Remote

Carlos Esteban Martínez Macías
 

Hi all.

No, NV Access say in the user guide that for copy the optioins in the scure screen, the form is press NVDA+control+g, and press de button “Use currently saved settings during sign-in and on secure screens (requires administrator privileges)”. Of course, your action is the same that NVDA make, but I don’t know if a part of the process is different when NVDA copy it.

Regards.

 

 

Carlos Esteban Martínez Macías.

Soporte a usuarios, comunidad de NVDA en español.

Web www.nvda.es

Experto certificado en NVDA

 

De: Jelal Bairamoglou
Enviado: martes, 20 de julio de 2021 23:16
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Asunto: Re: [nvda] Problem with having Admin Rights under UAC when using NVDA Remote

 

 

I removed all items from the following path: %HomeDrive%\Program Files (x86)\NVDA\systemConfig
I copied all items from the following path
%AppData%\nvda
Does not work properly as with previous addon.
The problem occurred after the new upgrade: remote-2.4.nvda-addon.

On 21/7/2021 1:21 π.μ., Carlos Esteban Martínez Macías via groups.io wrote:

Hi all.

You can test disable addons, but led enabled NVDA Remote and if you want, a synth Driver and another important addon for you, copy again the options for secure screens and go back to enable all the addons for your install copy. In some cases, this is the solution for this problems, but depend of your NVDA copy.

Regards.

 

 

Carlos Esteban Martínez Macías.

Soporte a usuarios, comunidad de NVDA en español.

Web www.nvda.es

Experto certificado en NVDA

 

De: Jelal Bairamoglou
Enviado: lunes, 19 de julio de 2021 10:43
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Asunto: Re: [nvda] Problem with having Admin Rights under UAC when using NVDA Remote

 

 

I have checked this for both computers and does not work.

They all worked all the problem occurred after the remote upgrade.

 

On 19/7/2021 6:43 π.μ., George McCoy wrote:

> I read, in the first iteration documentation that UaC works if both

> computers have NVDA set to speak at the logon screen. I have several

> clients whose systems are set up that way and I have no issues with UAC.

> George

>

 

 

 

 

 


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Re: Clock and calendar Add-on for NVDA - Compatibility with NVDA 2021.1 & forward

 

Tony,

The following may sound harsh and curt, but it's not intended that way.

The NVDA Add-Ons are the responsibility of their respective developers.  The NVDA Add-Ons Compatibility Page lists the present add-ons, their compatibility status, as well as contact information for the developer or developers of that given add-on.  This is what is listed there for the add-on you're inquiring about:

Clock and calendar Add-on for NVDA


The only people who could answer your question are the developers, who may or may not have already been contacted, but you should email them anyway.  When you get a reply as to whether an update is in the pipeline or not, please post that answer here.

Everyone needs to be looking at the above referenced compatibility and pursuing questions about what the intent is about compatibility with them.  After you know what the answer is, it is a real service to the user community if you post that answer here on the main NVDA group.
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Re: Clock and calendar Add-on for NVDA - Compatibility with NVDA 2021.1 & forward

Chris Smart
 

ask the developer of the add-on.

On 2021-07-22 11:50 a.m., tony via groups.io wrote:
Will be any update the add on for the Clock and calendar Add-on for NVDA

thank you




Clock and calendar Add-on for NVDA - Compatibility with NVDA 2021.1 & forward

tony
 

Will be any update the add on for the Clock and calendar Add-on for NVDA

thank you


Re: Shortcut commands stopping working in NVDA

Jackie
 

Pranav, I was, actually.

On 7/22/21, Curtis Delzer <curtis@calweb.com> wrote:
But, Gene is pointing out a behavior which has nothing to do whatever
with anything truly "sticking" in the real world, but only in the
electronic one. Jaws does this where it believes a given control or alt
key gets stuck in the past, where I've fixed it by pressing the added
key which jfw always indicated was stuck, when in fact, if it were
mechanically stuck I'd hear either repeats of the control key, or alt
key, or interrupted speech because my synth would be interrupted by a
real sticky mechanical action. :)
Tapping the "stuck" key usually fixed the action in JFW, I'll try and
see if it fixes NVDA, but I doubt it.


Curtis Delzer
HS
K 6 V F O
Rialto, CA

curtis@calweb.com

On 7/21/2021 4:33 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 06:54 PM, Gene wrote:

If it turns out to be keys getting stuck, that may lead to a
solution.

-
Gene,

Before I say what I'm about to say, I want to preface it with this
contribution is greatly appreciated, at least by me.  This is a great
diagnostic to undertake.

With that being said, if the root cause were traced to literal sticky
keys, the solution is getting a new keyboard.  There is nothing that the
developers of NVDA could or should do about sticking keyboard keys.
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Re: Update appears to have broken Musescore accessibility with NVDA

Jujube
 

Oh wow I will have to check that. I also use Musescore a bit but I
have not opened it as of late. I know NVDA has some of the best
support for Musescore and I have to admit that it was certainly a
factor in choosing it as my main screen reader so yeah...

On 7/22/21, Christopher Bartlett <themusicalbrewer@gmail.com> wrote:
This may not affect a lot of people, but I went to edit a musical score
this morning, and I had lost access to most of my controls. I know that
the Musescore folk have been doing a lot of accessibility-focused work, so
I was a little surprised. I'll also be reporting this on their forums.
(fora?)

Christopher Bartlett
p.s. Example, when attempting to edit a tempo marking, a dialogue is
supposed to appear, allowing you to change the BPM, and the note length
that forms the beat. After updating to 2021.1, that dialogue may be
visible, I don't know, but NVDA doesn't appear to see it, either in normal
mode, nor even as an object in object navigation mode.


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