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Re: Automatic detecting Braille display

Jujube
 

I am on English language, BrailleNote Touch and QBraille displays and automatic detection causes no problems. I suspect this may be a possible bug related to your specific braille display or something.

On Jul 22, 2021, at 11:50 PM, Jacob <dx@drnet.dk> wrote:

In latest version of NVDA the program crash if it's set to the default auto detection in Braille settings. It works if I manually select my display so therefore maybe not a big issue. I just want to know if any one here notice the same and if it's a known bug? I use latest Windows 10, danish language and a BAUM SuperVario 40.


OZ0TE Jacob






Re: Shortcut commands stopping working in NVDA

Abdelrahman Osman
 

Similar to what someone else mentioned: I’m turning NVDA help on and listening to the key that is pressed, then work on it. Usually it would be Shift, Control, or Windows keys. Sometimes I may need to restart NVDA after doing that as well.


Re: Automatic detecting Braille display

dennis huckle
 

What I have noticed is that if I re-start nvda the braille extender add on doesn't come in to play properly.
This is nvda 2121.1
For example to use a shortcut dots 1 2 45 release then m used to take me to outlook
However on the focus this doesn't work unless I re-do the settings for my braille display
I always save all settings in nvda before exiting.
All the addons are then detected and saved to re-start.
Kind regards,
Dennis huckle.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jacob
Sent: 23 July 2021 07:50
To: NVDA <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Automatic detecting Braille display

In latest version of NVDA the program crash if it's set to the default auto detection in Braille settings. It works if I manually select my display so therefore maybe not a big issue. I just want to know if any one here notice the same and if it's a known bug? I use latest Windows 10, danish language and a BAUM SuperVario 40.


OZ0TE Jacob


Automatic detecting Braille display

Jacob
 

In latest version of NVDA the program crash if it's set to the default auto detection in Braille settings. It works if I manually select my display so therefore maybe not a big issue. I just want to know if any one here notice the same and if it's a known bug? I use latest Windows 10, danish language and a BAUM SuperVario 40.


OZ0TE Jacob


Re: Unable to connect to NVDA Remote Server

arqam mehmood
 

Hi.
I didn't find anything like this, can you help me?

On 7/23/21, Mobeen Iqbal <mobeeniqbal@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi.

Don't you also have to specify the port in the add-on configuration?
Unless you also change it in the code, it probably won't work. There
should be something in the documentation on how to specify the correct
port on the client side.

Cheers,

Mo.


On 22/07/2021 14:32, Mobeen Iqbal via groups.io wrote:
Hi.

Are the correct ports open and accessible? I believe port 6837 needs
to be open.

cheers,

Mo.


On 22/07/2021 08:20, arqam mehmood wrote:
Hi everyone.
I've recently installed NVDA Remote Server on my debian server.
everything is ok.
when i check sudo NVDARemoteServer status.
  it says, active.
but when I tried to connect through my client, it won't connect.
any idea what is the problem?
Arqam Mehmood.












Re: Shortcut commands stopping working in NVDA

Pranav Lal
 

Jackie,

Then you have duplicated my experience.

Pranav

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jackie
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2021 9:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Shortcut commands stopping working in NVDA

Pranav, I was, actually.

On 7/22/21, Curtis Delzer <curtis@calweb.com> wrote:
But, Gene is pointing out a behavior which has nothing to do whatever
with anything truly "sticking" in the real world, but only in the
electronic one. Jaws does this where it believes a given control or
alt key gets stuck in the past, where I've fixed it by pressing the
added key which jfw always indicated was stuck, when in fact, if it
were mechanically stuck I'd hear either repeats of the control key, or
alt key, or interrupted speech because my synth would be interrupted
by a real sticky mechanical action. :) Tapping the "stuck" key usually
fixed the action in JFW, I'll try and see if it fixes NVDA, but I
doubt it.


Curtis Delzer
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K 6 V F O
Rialto, CA

curtis@calweb.com

On 7/21/2021 4:33 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 06:54 PM, Gene wrote:

If it turns out to be keys getting stuck, that may lead to a
solution.

-
Gene,

Before I say what I'm about to say, I want to preface it with this
contribution is greatly appreciated, at least by me. This is a great
diagnostic to undertake.

With that being said, if the root cause were traced to literal sticky
keys, the solution is getting a new keyboard. There is nothing that
the developers of NVDA could or should do about sticking keyboard keys.
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Re: Adding more add-ons to the core

Jujube
 

Hi Eilana, I see where you're coming from and this addons issue is
indeed a concern. I agree that some addons should enter core but
others should not. Nothing's perfect and roadblocks do occur, and this
is one of them that we do need a good solution to overcoming. I hope
we figure out something that's workable. I personally trust Joseph's
perspective as he's a developer and I think the developer community
has our best interests at heart. I heard that addon compatability will
hopefully only be broken once a year which is still kinda a bit much
but at least it's not that bad. It sounds like there's some rapid
changes to Python code which is quite unfortunate...
PS. I don't take the results of the WebAIM survey too seriously as the
sample size is fairly small, it's based on self selection and so the
accuracy is debatable, but we should also remember that NVDA is very
popular outside North America, especially in developing countries
where other more expensive solutions aren't an option, plus, JAWS has
also become much more affordable thanks to the home annual license
subscription in North America so that definitely tips things.

On 7/22/21, Eilana Benish <benish.ilana@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello

I totally agree with you

in addition I heard about users that moved fromNVDA to JAWS because of this
- even loyal users who usedNVDA for many many years and refused to useJAWS.

also in the recent survey fromWebAIM it seems that there is decrease in the
use ofNVDA among blind users.

it is important to keep in mind that most of the users are standard users
and they want a complete product. they do not need to search the add ONS for
all compatibility's or incompatibilities.






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Re: Adding more add-ons to the core

Eilana Benish
 

Hello

I totally agree with you

in addition I heard about users that moved fromNVDA to JAWS because of this - even loyal users who usedNVDA for many many years and refused to useJAWS.

also in the recent survey fromWebAIM it seems that there is decrease in the use ofNVDA among blind users.

it is important to keep in mind that most of the users are standard users and they want a complete product. they do not need to search the add ONS for all compatibility's or incompatibilities.

 




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אילנה בניש מורשה נגישות שירות 2200

ייעוץ, ליווי והערכת נגישות ושמישות אינטרנט וטכנולוגיות מידע

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נכתב על ידי Gene, ב־19/07/2021 בשעה 04:40:

Off and on it is stated that an add-on will be added to the core.  I don’t recall this being discussed before, but since this is the second time in perhaps two years or less that a lot or most add-ons have been made incompatible, it raises the question if more should be added. 
 
How often is this likely to happen and at what point are add-ons going to be more likely to be lost through attrition if developers don’t want to keep updating them?  Perhaps more serious attention should be given to adding more of them to the core. 
 
I know the argument about keeping NVDA small but add-ons don’t take much room and adding many of them to the core wouldn’t make the program bigger to any extent that matters. 
 
Gene


Re: Update appears to have broken Musescore accessibility with NVDA

 

On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 09:52 PM, Jujube wrote:
I have not checked but this could also be a Musescore issue... both
parties may be at fault but I have no idea...
-
I agree, and it could be Windows factors.  The fun of the process of elimination begins!
 
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Re: Update appears to have broken Musescore accessibility with NVDA

Jujube
 

I have not checked but this could also be a Musescore issue... both
parties may be at fault but I have no idea...

On 7/22/21, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
Christopher,

Have you tried uninstalling and immediately reinstalling NVDA 2021.1 with a
fresh copy of the installer?  There are several directions one could go
first but, to me, this is one of the easier ones before doing others.

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Re: Update appears to have broken Musescore accessibility with NVDA

 

Christopher,

Have you tried uninstalling and immediately reinstalling NVDA 2021.1 with a fresh copy of the installer?  There are several directions one could go first but, to me, this is one of the easier ones before doing others.

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Yep.  Discipline.  Accountability.  Joy.  Fun.  Responsibility.

That's what life is about.  And in that order.

        ~ Liza Minnelli

 


Re: Update appears to have broken Musescore accessibility with NVDA

Christopher Bartlett
 

You are correct, 21H1, not insider build.  I'm no longer one of those folk who want to be on the bleeding edge, considering this machine is my professional, and music production hobby machine.

CWB


On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 6:45 PM Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 07:40 PM, Christopher Bartlett wrote:
21H2
-
I presume you mean 21H1, but for the sake of complete clarity.  If you're on an insider build, that adds complications.
 
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Re: Update appears to have broken Musescore accessibility with NVDA

 

On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 07:40 PM, Christopher Bartlett wrote:
21H2
-
I presume you mean 21H1, but for the sake of complete clarity.  If you're on an insider build, that adds complications.
 
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That's what life is about.  And in that order.

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Re: Update appears to have broken Musescore accessibility with NVDA

Christopher Bartlett
 

To be clear, I know how to edit text and tempo markings in MuseScore, and how to set them up.  What I was experiencing was that the dialogue described above does not appear for me: NVDA 2021.1 win 10 21H2 and MuseScore 3.62.  I should have put those in the first message.

CWB


On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 10:57 AM Jujube <ellaxyu@...> wrote:
Oh wow I will have to check that. I also use Musescore a bit but I
have not opened it as of late. I know NVDA has some of the best
support for Musescore and I have to admit that it was certainly a
factor in choosing it as my main screen reader so yeah...

On 7/22/21, Christopher Bartlett <themusicalbrewer@...> wrote:
> This may not affect a lot of people, but I went to edit a musical score
> this morning, and I had lost access to most of my controls.  I know that
> the Musescore folk have been doing a lot of accessibility-focused work, so
> I was a little surprised.  I'll also be reporting this on their forums.
> (fora?)
>
> Christopher Bartlett
> p.s.  Example, when attempting to edit a tempo marking, a dialogue is
> supposed to appear, allowing you to change the BPM, and the note length
> that forms the beat.  After updating to 2021.1, that dialogue may be
> visible, I don't know, but NVDA doesn't appear to see it, either in normal
> mode, nor even as an object in object navigation mode.
>
>
> --
> Christopher Bartlett
>
>
>
>
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Re: Problem with having Admin Rights under UAC when using NVDA Remote

Jelal Bairamoglou
 


Thank you very much for the answer you give me.
The first I tried from the NVDA USSE Currently Saved Settings During Signed Settings and then I tried to do it manually. Unfortunately, this feature is not working on me and this happens after upgrading.
I am impressed that someone else did not mention this problem obviously did not have a problem there is something that I do not know I.
Again thanks for your interest and the answer you gave.

On 22/7/2021 7:08 μ.μ., Carlos Esteban Martínez Macías via groups.io wrote:

Hi all.

No, NV Access say in the user guide that for copy the optioins in the scure screen, the form is press NVDA+control+g, and press de button “Use currently saved settings during sign-in and on secure screens (requires administrator privileges)”. Of course, your action is the same that NVDA make, but I don’t know if a part of the process is different when NVDA copy it.

Regards.

 

 

Carlos Esteban Martínez Macías.

Soporte a usuarios, comunidad de NVDA en español.

Web www.nvda.es

Experto certificado en NVDA

 

De: Jelal Bairamoglou
Enviado: martes, 20 de julio de 2021 23:16
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Asunto: Re: [nvda] Problem with having Admin Rights under UAC when using NVDA Remote

 

 

I removed all items from the following path: %HomeDrive%\Program Files (x86)\NVDA\systemConfig
I copied all items from the following path
%AppData%\nvda
Does not work properly as with previous addon.
The problem occurred after the new upgrade: remote-2.4.nvda-addon.

On 21/7/2021 1:21 π.μ., Carlos Esteban Martínez Macías via groups.io wrote:

Hi all.

You can test disable addons, but led enabled NVDA Remote and if you want, a synth Driver and another important addon for you, copy again the options for secure screens and go back to enable all the addons for your install copy. In some cases, this is the solution for this problems, but depend of your NVDA copy.

Regards.

 

 

Carlos Esteban Martínez Macías.

Soporte a usuarios, comunidad de NVDA en español.

Web www.nvda.es

Experto certificado en NVDA

 

De: Jelal Bairamoglou
Enviado: lunes, 19 de julio de 2021 10:43
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Asunto: Re: [nvda] Problem with having Admin Rights under UAC when using NVDA Remote

 

 

I have checked this for both computers and does not work.

They all worked all the problem occurred after the remote upgrade.

 

On 19/7/2021 6:43 π.μ., George McCoy wrote:

> I read, in the first iteration documentation that UaC works if both

> computers have NVDA set to speak at the logon screen. I have several

> clients whose systems are set up that way and I have no issues with UAC.

> George

>

 

 

 

 

 


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Re: Unable to connect to NVDA Remote Server

Mobeen Iqbal
 

Hi.

Don't you also have to specify the port in the add-on configuration? Unless you also change it in the code, it probably won't work. There should be something in the documentation on how to specify the correct port on the client side.

Cheers,

Mo.

On 22/07/2021 14:32, Mobeen Iqbal via groups.io wrote:
Hi.

Are the correct ports open and accessible? I believe port 6837 needs to be open.

cheers,

Mo.


On 22/07/2021 08:20, arqam mehmood wrote:
Hi everyone.
I've recently installed NVDA Remote Server on my debian server.
everything is ok.
when i check sudo NVDARemoteServer status.
  it says, active.
but when I tried to connect through my client, it won't connect.
any idea what is the problem?
Arqam Mehmood.







Re: Unable to connect to NVDA Remote Server

arqam mehmood
 

Hi.
I've changed the ports from the configuration file.
and allowed from the firewall.

On 7/22/21, Mobeen Iqbal <mobeeniqbal@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi.

Are the correct ports open and accessible? I believe port 6837 needs to
be open.

cheers,

Mo.


On 22/07/2021 08:20, arqam mehmood wrote:
Hi everyone.
I've recently installed NVDA Remote Server on my debian server.
everything is ok.
when i check sudo NVDARemoteServer status.
it says, active.
but when I tried to connect through my client, it won't connect.
any idea what is the problem?
Arqam Mehmood.









Re: Clock v21.07 #addonrelease

Chris Smart
 

Thank you.


Clock v21.07 #addonrelease

zvonimir stanečić, 9a5dsz
 

Hi to al.!

I would like tonform you all, that the clock addon version 21.07, compatible with NVDA 2021.1 is released.

I would like to Thank Joseph Lee for pointing me how to go further with this!

The link is:

https://github.com/hkatic/clock/releases/download/v21.07/clock-21.07.nvda-addon

Note! This should appear in the addon updater in some time.

Best,

Zvonimir

 


Re: Compatibility of EnhancedPhoneticReading AddOn?

 

David,

If you don't have a GitHub account this is the perfect example of why having one is handy.  There already exists an open issue:

https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/8822 

that you could add a comment to that deals with phonetic character reading.  The capability already exists in the NVDA core, but the request was for settings to be implemented that allowed it to "remain on" until you turned it off rather than having to go through the key sequence for each and every character.

I see also that EnhancedPhoneticReading is noted as being one of Tony Malykh's add-ons, and he's still around as far as I know.  On the add-ons compatibility page his email address is given as anton.malykh@....

But if you would like to see this functionality in the NVDA core the best place you can voice that is on GitHub.
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