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Re: weather plus addon

Don H
 

So when you are in the settings for weather plus and set cities is highlighted do you hit the space bar or the enter key to open the setting?

On 7/29/2021 10:53 AM, Adriano Barbieri via groups.io wrote:
Hi Don ,
Oddly, the package lacks the English documentation and generates an error.
I only realized it now, as soon as I set the nvda language to English.
I'll be doing an emergency update to 8.4 shortly.
Sorry for the inconvenience
Adriano
Il 29/07/2021 14:45, Don H ha scritto:
Running latest released versions of Win 10 and NVDA.  I downloaded and installed version 8.3 of weather plus addon and installed it.  As part of the addon install I restarted nvda.  Now I go into the NVDA settings weatherplus and try to set or manage cities.  If i hit the space bar on this option nothing happens, if I hit enter on the option the menue closes.  So how do you set your cities when you can't open the settings to do so.  I also tried to reboot my computer after installing the addon and I still can't set the cities.






mbrola voices

Kristoffer Gustafsson
 

Hi.
I want to use mbrola voices with espeak and nvda.
I can't get this to work.
Has any of you gotten this to work?
is it possible today or not?


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Re: No sound with NVDA 2020.1 in a Windows 10 VM

 

On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 01:10 AM, Sébastien Hinderer wrote:
Is it possible that, when Windows is asked to search for updates, it has
been pre-configured to do so only on the institute's server which would
then only have certain CU that would prevent one from installing a too
recent version of Windows with respect to some security policy they may
have?
-
Yes, that is a possibility.

You really need to talk with "your people" so that you can understand exactly what they are supplying to you and what their constraints are from a policies and procedures perspective.  I realize that you are new to this job, and this is a pain, but the more you can get nailed down about not only what you're dealing with now, but how things are going to work with your Windows VM going forward, the easier your life will be.

It could be that you have a more recent version of Windows 10 for all I know.  It would still be helpful to know what their update policy is if all Windows updates are being managed by them.

My gut is telling me that you are not going to have Windows 10 Home or Pro, but Enterprise or Educational, both of which are intended for large entities that control their own Windows Updates and their timing.

I'd also hope that your employer has technical support that can help out with solving the most pressing issue you're having right now:  no speech output.
 
--

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Yep.  Discipline.  Accountability.  Joy.  Fun.  Responsibility.

That's what life is about.  And in that order.

        ~ Liza Minnelli

 


Re: No sound with NVDA 2020.1 in a Windows 10 VM

Lukasz Golonka
 

On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 07:06:11 +0200
Sébastien Hinderer <Sebastien.Hinderer@inria.fr> wrote:

Dear Brian,

Is there no possibility to get one given version of Windows updated to
the current one without having to re-install?
For normal versions of Windows 10 that is precisely what happens. However
if if you're using an LTSC build that is the version with a long term
support the new builds are not delivered via Windows Update - only
security fixes are.


Re: No sound with NVDA 2020.1 in a Windows 10 VM

Lukasz Golonka
 

On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 07:02:53 +0200
Sébastien Hinderer <Sebastien.Hinderer@inria.fr> wrote:

Regarding the updates I think we did them but I'll ask my sighted
friends to check the sound menu itself.
The trouble here is that if you've installed without the update that
fixes the problem updating later on has no effect. This is because
Windows checks for the best (in its opinion that is) settings for a
given sound device just once. The fix released by MS made it so for the sound
device emulated by Virtual Box 5.1 sound is not chosen automatically but
if it has been chosen before the update would not change that and this
needs to be done from the sound settings.


I have patience so yes I will have the possibility to have sighted
assistance. Probably not before next week but that's okay.
There are certainly ways to do the changes yourself the easiest would be
to connect external USB sound card to your VM if you have one. that is.


windows mail app

mattias
 

Hmm

Seems the mail content come up more quickly with narrator than nvda?

I’m litle unsure about that but Seems so

 

Skickades från E-post för Windows

 


Re: No sound with NVDA 2020.1 in a Windows 10 VM

Sébastien Hinderer
 

Brian Vogel (2021/07/29 15:19 -0700):
On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 06:13 PM, Lukasz Golonka wrote:


Unless he needs to use 1809 LTSC which is supported for around 7 years
still.
-
True, but only if it is required.  Otherwise it always makes sense to
keep your instances, whether actual or virtual, up to date with the
latest supported version that will run on your hardware.
One question here. The VM has been provided to me by the research center
I am working for, here in France. They have hteir own activation
sservers, for instance.

Is it possible that, when Windows is asked to search for updates, it has
been pre-configured to do so only on the institute's server which would
then only have certain CU that would prevent one from installing a too
recent versionn of Windows with respect to some security policy they may
have?

Thanks,

Sébastien.


Re: No sound with NVDA 2020.1 in a Windows 10 VM

Sébastien Hinderer
 

Dear Brian,

Is there no possibility to get one given version of Windows updated to
the current one without having to re-install?

My belief was that when you are letting Windows download updates that'
was precisely what was happening. Am I wrong here? Sorry, lack of
familiarity with the Windows world. Will need to catchup.

Sébastien.


Re: No sound with NVDA 2020.1 in a Windows 10 VM

Sébastien Hinderer
 

Dear Lukasz,

Thanks again!

Regarding the updates I think we did them but I'll ask my sighted
friends to check the sound menu itself.

I have patience so yes I will have the possibility to have sighted
assistance. Probably not before next week but that's okay.

Will report progress here.

Many thanks, the thread has been really helpful so far!

Sébasttien.


Re: Unable to set column headers in Microsoft Excel when UIA is enabled

Pranav Lal
 

Hi Carlos,

 

Thanks for confirming.

 

Pranav


Re: Unable to set column headers in Microsoft Excel when UIA is enabled

Pranav Lal
 

Hi Ann,
<snip Are you using the four-fingered JAWS keystroke or Excel bookmarks to
set the titles?
PL] I am using the NVDA's keystroke which is nvda key + shift +c for column
titles. It is this keystroke which does nothing when read excel controls
when using UIA is checked.

Pranav


Re: object enhancer addon

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi Rui


Under the general settings in nvda I tried the user default and the english one.


I also restarted nvda. The version of NVDA is 2021.1.


I also tried other synths that spoke in english.

Wheather they were in us english or british english etc and still the same results.

 

When you open the help section in the add on the first part is in english but the instructions are in dutch under neath.


The first part says what it does but the instructions are in dutch below.



I also checked under the voice settings and turned off any thing to do with with automatic language switching and the one below it.


I also went back through my emails and checked for the latest link and installed that one still same results.


Hince the earlier email saying what to do to bring it up in english but people may not do it or may just read the english documentation i put with the add on link to my drop box account.


Gene nz




On 30/07/2021 9:58 am, Rui Fontes wrote:

Sorry!


I think that is very strange!


What language is your NVDA?


Rui Fontes


Às 21:23 de 29/07/2021, hurrikennyandopo ... escreveu:

Hi rui


There was a add on that you gave but it came up in dutch I think some one said when installed onto my computer of which I speak english.


I think i also tried a second one that was provided thinking it would come up in english and when you opened the help for it it spoke in a another language not english.


Gene nz


On 30/07/2021 8:18 am, Rui Fontes wrote:

Have you downloaded the version I made available?


Rui Fontes



Às 20:36 de 29/07/2021, hurrikennyandopo ... escreveu:

Hi


For a work around to use this add on I thought there would be a few people that speak english that would like to try it but it comes up in dutch when installed. I do not know what to do to make it come up in English so done the below work around and or pointed to the add on and english documentation in my drop box account.

If some one knows how to do it please do when it get installed it comes up in English.


*Object enhancer add on for NVDA

Object Enhancer
• Author: Babbage B.V. info@...
Object Enhancer allows you to change how NVDA announces objects on the screen using an intuitive interface. It can be used to change the label of an object, but depending on how you’re using it, has functionality to change basically any property of an object.
Changes to an object are saved in a definition. A definition contains:
• Criteria that have to apply in order for the definition to match
• Attribute changes that will be applied to every object that matches the definition
• Optional relationships with other definitions. A definition can inherrit criteria from other

You can obtain a copy of it for NVDA 2021.1 from my drop box account at https://www.dropbox.com/s/wld98w3bv5s2l9i/object%20enhancer.zip?dl=1

The add on is in Dutch and if you do the following on the installed version of NVDA you can have it in English. Press the Windows key, then arrow to all apps, then NVDA, then NVDA user configuration, then press the Enter key. Locate the addons folder, then locate the object enhancer folder, then press the Enter key.
Locate the Doc folder, there will be 2 folders inside of it. Locate the Nl folder then copy the readme.html file. Go back one step and locate the En folder and paste it in there. It should override the other readme file. Now when you bring up the help section in the addon, the first part will be in Dutch and the rest will be English.

For a portable version do the following. If it is in the NVDA folder, locate the user configuration folder, then press the Enter key. Locate the add ons folder then press the Enter key. Locate the object enhancer folder, then press the Enter key. Locate the Doc folder, then press the Enter key. There will be 2 folders inside of it. Locate the Nl folder, then press the Enter key and copy the readme.html file. Go back one step and locate the En folder and press the Enter key and paste it in there. It should override the other readme file. Now when you bring up the help section in the add on, the first part will be in Dutch and the rest will be English.
 
*Please note

If after that has been done and you hear NVDA speaking in another language, use the NVDA key + Ctrl key + the letter V. Next, tab down until you hear NVDA say Automatic language switching (when supported) and uncheck that box. Save your settings, then open the add on help section. The first part will be in Dutch and the rest will be in English.
If you do not want to do the above, there is an English text file which you can read within the zip file.




On 27/07/2021 3:06 am, falkogiepmans@... wrote:
To be quite honest, we forgot that we had this add-on made. My own boss asked me the other day to look into a functionality to label objects in NVDA as they can do in JAWS, turns out we already had something on the table :).

I'll give it some love where needed, since it would be tremendously useful for our own work as well. If anyone has a pull-request that it wants to push then I will look into it.

Kind regards,
Falko

 
 


In-Process is out

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi everyone,

This week's In-Process is out! Featuring a final reminder of our huge Basic Training sale, thanks to Elston & staff, and an in-depth look at both LibLouis and the benefits of Open Source software overall: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/in-process-30th-july-2021/

Quentin.
--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: No sound with NVDA 2020.1 in a Windows 10 VM

 

On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 06:13 PM, Lukasz Golonka wrote:
Unless he needs to use 1809 LTSC which is supported for around 7 years still.
-
True, but only if it is required.  Otherwise it always makes sense to keep your instances, whether actual or virtual, up to date with the latest supported version that will run on your hardware.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

Yep.  Discipline.  Accountability.  Joy.  Fun.  Responsibility.

That's what life is about.  And in that order.

        ~ Liza Minnelli

 


Re: No sound with NVDA 2020.1 in a Windows 10 VM

Lukasz Golonka
 

On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 15:06:24 -0700
"Brian Vogel" <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:

If, by some chance, you somehow have Windows 10 Version 1809 running, you need to get a far more recent version and re-create your VM using it.  I'd go no earlier than Version 20H2 and, ideally, just use the current version, 21H1.
Unless he needs to use 1809 LTSC which is supported for around 7 years
still.


Re: No sound with NVDA 2020.1 in a Windows 10 VM

 

Sorry, Lukasz. We were literally typing our responses at the same time, and you beat me by 2 minutes in posting yours.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

Yep.  Discipline.  Accountability.  Joy.  Fun.  Responsibility.

That's what life is about.  And in that order.

        ~ Liza Minnelli

 


Re: No sound with NVDA 2020.1 in a Windows 10 VM

 

On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 04:45 PM, Sébastien Hinderer wrote:
What do you mean by CU, exactly?
-
I'm not Lukasz, but this, in context, means Cumulative Update.

If you have no screen reader output then it's quite difficult to get version and build information since you can't see it.  Normally you'd just run the winver command and listen to the information in the resulting dialog box.

If, by some chance, you somehow have Windows 10 Version 1809 running, you need to get a far more recent version and re-create your VM using it.  I'd go no earlier than Version 20H2 and, ideally, just use the current version, 21H1.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

Yep.  Discipline.  Accountability.  Joy.  Fun.  Responsibility.

That's what life is about.  And in that order.

        ~ Liza Minnelli

 


Re: No sound with NVDA 2020.1 in a Windows 10 VM

Lukasz Golonka
 

On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 22:45:21 +0200
Sébastien Hinderer <Sebastien.Hinderer@inria.fr> wrote:

Lukasz Golonka via groups.io (2021/07/29 21:54 +0200):
Are you by any chance running Windows 10 1809?
I don't know. Is there a way to figure that out without sighted
assistance when no screen reader works? Otherwise I will have to wait
until a colleague of mine can help me on that.
Possible probably yes but not easy. If you have easy access to the
sighted assistant that would be your best bed

First versions of this
build had exactly the issue you're describing under Virtual Box. I've
reported this both to Oracle (https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/17942)
and to Microsoft Accessibility team.
It's nice that you did the reports! Thanks! I feel dumb for not having
found them, actually!
I don't think they would come up in the searches - certainly the one to
Microsoft has been done via twitter and using private messages.

The latter report resulted in this
issue being corrected with an update but unfortunately if you've
installed from the image without the appropriate CU
What do you mean by CU, exactly? I'm not familiar with the terminology,
sorry.
CU -> Cumulative update

integrated you need
to fix it manually. To do so it is necessary to open your sound settings
and ensure your sound card is set to Stereo rather than to 5.1 which the
audio card emulated by Virtual Box fails to handle well.
Just to make sure. When you talk about the sound settings, do you mean
on the Windows side?
Yes, this change needs to be done on the system inside your VM.


Re: object enhancer addon

Rui Fontes
 

Sorry!


I think that is very strange!


What language is your NVDA?


Rui Fontes


Às 21:23 de 29/07/2021, hurrikennyandopo ... escreveu:

Hi rui


There was a add on that you gave but it came up in dutch I think some one said when installed onto my computer of which I speak english.


I think i also tried a second one that was provided thinking it would come up in english and when you opened the help for it it spoke in a another language not english.


Gene nz


On 30/07/2021 8:18 am, Rui Fontes wrote:

Have you downloaded the version I made available?


Rui Fontes



Às 20:36 de 29/07/2021, hurrikennyandopo ... escreveu:

Hi


For a work around to use this add on I thought there would be a few people that speak english that would like to try it but it comes up in dutch when installed. I do not know what to do to make it come up in English so done the below work around and or pointed to the add on and english documentation in my drop box account.

If some one knows how to do it please do when it get installed it comes up in English.


*Object enhancer add on for NVDA

Object Enhancer
• Author: Babbage B.V. info@...
Object Enhancer allows you to change how NVDA announces objects on the screen using an intuitive interface. It can be used to change the label of an object, but depending on how you’re using it, has functionality to change basically any property of an object.
Changes to an object are saved in a definition. A definition contains:
• Criteria that have to apply in order for the definition to match
• Attribute changes that will be applied to every object that matches the definition
• Optional relationships with other definitions. A definition can inherrit criteria from other

You can obtain a copy of it for NVDA 2021.1 from my drop box account at https://www.dropbox.com/s/wld98w3bv5s2l9i/object%20enhancer.zip?dl=1

The add on is in Dutch and if you do the following on the installed version of NVDA you can have it in English. Press the Windows key, then arrow to all apps, then NVDA, then NVDA user configuration, then press the Enter key. Locate the addons folder, then locate the object enhancer folder, then press the Enter key.
Locate the Doc folder, there will be 2 folders inside of it. Locate the Nl folder then copy the readme.html file. Go back one step and locate the En folder and paste it in there. It should override the other readme file. Now when you bring up the help section in the addon, the first part will be in Dutch and the rest will be English.

For a portable version do the following. If it is in the NVDA folder, locate the user configuration folder, then press the Enter key. Locate the add ons folder then press the Enter key. Locate the object enhancer folder, then press the Enter key. Locate the Doc folder, then press the Enter key. There will be 2 folders inside of it. Locate the Nl folder, then press the Enter key and copy the readme.html file. Go back one step and locate the En folder and press the Enter key and paste it in there. It should override the other readme file. Now when you bring up the help section in the add on, the first part will be in Dutch and the rest will be English.
 
*Please note

If after that has been done and you hear NVDA speaking in another language, use the NVDA key + Ctrl key + the letter V. Next, tab down until you hear NVDA say Automatic language switching (when supported) and uncheck that box. Save your settings, then open the add on help section. The first part will be in Dutch and the rest will be in English.
If you do not want to do the above, there is an English text file which you can read within the zip file.




On 27/07/2021 3:06 am, falkogiepmans@... wrote:
To be quite honest, we forgot that we had this add-on made. My own boss asked me the other day to look into a functionality to label objects in NVDA as they can do in JAWS, turns out we already had something on the table :).

I'll give it some love where needed, since it would be tremendously useful for our own work as well. If anyone has a pull-request that it wants to push then I will look into it.

Kind regards,
Falko

 
 


Re: object enhancer addon

Rui Fontes
 

Very strange!

Às 21:23 de 29/07/2021, hurrikennyandopo ... escreveu:

Hi rui


There was a add on that you gave but it came up in dutch I think some one said when installed onto my computer of which I speak english.


I think i also tried a second one that was provided thinking it would come up in english and when you opened the help for it it spoke in a another language not english.


Gene nz


On 30/07/2021 8:18 am, Rui Fontes wrote:

Have you downloaded the version I made available?


Rui Fontes



Às 20:36 de 29/07/2021, hurrikennyandopo ... escreveu:

Hi


For a work around to use this add on I thought there would be a few people that speak english that would like to try it but it comes up in dutch when installed. I do not know what to do to make it come up in English so done the below work around and or pointed to the add on and english documentation in my drop box account.

If some one knows how to do it please do when it get installed it comes up in English.


*Object enhancer add on for NVDA

Object Enhancer
• Author: Babbage B.V. info@...
Object Enhancer allows you to change how NVDA announces objects on the screen using an intuitive interface. It can be used to change the label of an object, but depending on how you’re using it, has functionality to change basically any property of an object.
Changes to an object are saved in a definition. A definition contains:
• Criteria that have to apply in order for the definition to match
• Attribute changes that will be applied to every object that matches the definition
• Optional relationships with other definitions. A definition can inherrit criteria from other

You can obtain a copy of it for NVDA 2021.1 from my drop box account at https://www.dropbox.com/s/wld98w3bv5s2l9i/object%20enhancer.zip?dl=1

The add on is in Dutch and if you do the following on the installed version of NVDA you can have it in English. Press the Windows key, then arrow to all apps, then NVDA, then NVDA user configuration, then press the Enter key. Locate the addons folder, then locate the object enhancer folder, then press the Enter key.
Locate the Doc folder, there will be 2 folders inside of it. Locate the Nl folder then copy the readme.html file. Go back one step and locate the En folder and paste it in there. It should override the other readme file. Now when you bring up the help section in the addon, the first part will be in Dutch and the rest will be English.

For a portable version do the following. If it is in the NVDA folder, locate the user configuration folder, then press the Enter key. Locate the add ons folder then press the Enter key. Locate the object enhancer folder, then press the Enter key. Locate the Doc folder, then press the Enter key. There will be 2 folders inside of it. Locate the Nl folder, then press the Enter key and copy the readme.html file. Go back one step and locate the En folder and press the Enter key and paste it in there. It should override the other readme file. Now when you bring up the help section in the add on, the first part will be in Dutch and the rest will be English.
 
*Please note

If after that has been done and you hear NVDA speaking in another language, use the NVDA key + Ctrl key + the letter V. Next, tab down until you hear NVDA say Automatic language switching (when supported) and uncheck that box. Save your settings, then open the add on help section. The first part will be in Dutch and the rest will be in English.
If you do not want to do the above, there is an English text file which you can read within the zip file.




On 27/07/2021 3:06 am, falkogiepmans@... wrote:
To be quite honest, we forgot that we had this add-on made. My own boss asked me the other day to look into a functionality to label objects in NVDA as they can do in JAWS, turns out we already had something on the table :).

I'll give it some love where needed, since it would be tremendously useful for our own work as well. If anyone has a pull-request that it wants to push then I will look into it.

Kind regards,
Falko

 
 
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