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Re: Issue With Thunderbird And Account Settings In A Recent Update

Gene
 

The solution you found and that I discussed works in various browsers as well.  It may work in other programs but browsers and Thunderbird are where I have found this to be necessary to see the full interface.  And it may be necessary to work with history as well. 
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2021 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Issue With Thunderbird And Account Settings In A Recent Update
 
I suspect the problem is that you are in browse mode or that the virtual pc cursor is active, depending on your screen-reader.  When I am in an interface like this where I can’t vfind what I should find, I check to see if I can turn off browse mode in NVDA or the virtual pc cursor in JAWS. 
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2021 9:40 AM
Subject: [nvda] Issue With Thunderbird And Account Settings In A Recent Update
 
Hi Group,

In an attempt to help a person on another list, I wanted to see what
port configuration was used by Gmail, I think it is 467 and 995, but I
wanted to be sure. In any case,  when I go to tools/account settings,
something has changed with a recent version of Thunderbird. There used
to be an accessible tree view for each account you had set up which you
could access by using the up/down arrow keys and the tab and shift + tab
keystrokes. Now when I access the account settings, all  that is visible
is one element of a tree view that does not read a name and then an HTML
type interface that is largely unusable.

Has anyone else tried to manually edit their account settings recently
and have you experienced this issue? If so, is there a solution?  Thanks
for any help.

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Re: Issue With Thunderbird And Account Settings In A Recent Update

Gene
 

I suspect the problem is that you are in browse mode or that the virtual pc cursor is active, depending on your screen-reader.  When I am in an interface like this where I can’t vfind what I should find, I check to see if I can turn off browse mode in NVDA or the virtual pc cursor in JAWS. 
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2021 9:40 AM
Subject: [nvda] Issue With Thunderbird And Account Settings In A Recent Update
 
Hi Group,

In an attempt to help a person on another list, I wanted to see what
port configuration was used by Gmail, I think it is 467 and 995, but I
wanted to be sure. In any case,  when I go to tools/account settings,
something has changed with a recent version of Thunderbird. There used
to be an accessible tree view for each account you had set up which you
could access by using the up/down arrow keys and the tab and shift + tab
keystrokes. Now when I access the account settings, all  that is visible
is one element of a tree view that does not read a name and then an HTML
type interface that is largely unusable.

Has anyone else tried to manually edit their account settings recently
and have you experienced this issue? If so, is there a solution?  Thanks
for any help.

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Re: Issue With Thunderbird And Account Settings In A Recent Update

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,

Well its almost American Football time so as they say in the NFL 'upon further review,' in an attempt to see what was going on in my account settings in Thunderbird, I switched from browse mode to edit mode with insert + space bar. I then used the tab and what do you know, with one back tab, I landed on a fully accessible tree view which I could then navigate with up/down arrow keys and access the various items with tab and shift tab.  This is new behavior, but you get the proper results once you realize what you have to do.

BTW, the proper ports for GMail are 465 for SMTP and 995 for pop/imap.

On 8/5/2021 10:40 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

In an attempt to help a person on another list, I wanted to see what port configuration was used by Gmail, I think it is 467 and 995, but I wanted to be sure. In any case,  when I go to tools/account settings, something has changed with a recent version of Thunderbird. There used to be an accessible tree view for each account you had set up which you could access by using the up/down arrow keys and the tab and shift + tab keystrokes. Now when I access the account settings, all  that is visible is one element of a tree view that does not read a name and then an HTML type interface that is largely unusable.

Has anyone else tried to manually edit their account settings recently and have you experienced this issue? If so, is there a solution?  Thanks for any help.
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Issue With Thunderbird And Account Settings In A Recent Update

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,

In an attempt to help a person on another list, I wanted to see what port configuration was used by Gmail, I think it is 467 and 995, but I wanted to be sure. In any case,  when I go to tools/account settings, something has changed with a recent version of Thunderbird. There used to be an accessible tree view for each account you had set up which you could access by using the up/down arrow keys and the tab and shift + tab keystrokes. Now when I access the account settings, all  that is visible is one element of a tree view that does not read a name and then an HTML type interface that is largely unusable.

Has anyone else tried to manually edit their account settings recently and have you experienced this issue? If so, is there a solution?  Thanks for any help.

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nvda@nvda.groups.io Integration <nvda@...>
 

Say Product Name and Version

This NVDA add-on add a shortcut to announce product name and version of the foreground application, or copy these informations to the clipboard.

  • Shortcut: NVDA+Shift+V
  • Press it twice to copy product name and version to the clipboard.

Changes for 2021.07

  • Add Croatian translation thanks to Tarik Hadžirović and Goran Parać
  • Update help message
  • Update documentation style for visualy impaired users
  • Move shortcut from Speech to tools cathegory

Changes for 2020.02

  • Python 3 compatibility
  • Use informations from NVDA itself instead of using an external module
  • Use script decorator for global plugin informations
  • Use last version of add-on template

Changes for 1.0.1

  • Fixed the message after copying informations to the clipboard which was not translatted.

Changes for 1.0

  • Initial Release


Re: how to switch speech language

Ali Colak
 

If you commonly switch between two languages and want to this on the
fly instead of going through the voices dialogue, then Fawaz Abdul
rahman's suggestion is the best option.
1: press nvda+control+p to go to the configurations profiles menu.
2: Tab until you get the new button.
3: Name it whatever you wish, ideally a discriptive name.
4: Press tab to check the manual activation radio button.
5: Press OK.
6: Close the menue.
7: Switch to whatever language you want in the profile through
control+nvda+v, then save that configuration with control+nvda+c.
8: Go the nvda preferences menu, then input gestures.
9: Down arrow until you see Configuration profiles and right arrow to expand.
10: Down arrow until you hear the name of the profile you created,
than tab until you hear add and press enter or the space bar.
11: Press the key combination you want to associate with that profile,
ideal a combination that isn't already associated with something.
12: A context menue will appear asking you which keyboard leyout you
want the combination associated with, select whichever you wish, --I
advise all keyboard layouts-- then press enter.
13: tab until you hear OK and press enter.
14: Press the key combination to activate and deactivate the profile,
which will switch you the language you associated with the account and
back.

On 8/4/21, Jujube <ellaxyu@gmail.com> wrote:
I believe the command to access the voice dialog is control nvda V.
Press control nvda g to change interface language.

On 8/4/21, Sauro Cesaretti <saurocesaretti1983@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello everyone,
I'm Sauro Cesaretti from italy.
I'd like to kindly ask if there is a shortcut to switch quickly the
language speech.
In particular, I need to switch form Italin to english voice with
windows core voices, is it possible to do it with a shortcut?
Thanks in advance
Best regards,Sauro Cesaretti










locked Re: Intel or AMD: does the processor make a difference to NVDA

Nimer Jaber
 

Right, and the question has now been answered, so topic is locked. Thanks everyone.


On Wed, Aug 4, 2021 at 10:31 PM Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:

Well having both both are fine.

Amd do get regular non whql drivers so you do get the latest so there is more chance for your version being compatible with the latest version of windows however at the same time you can bump into a version not compatible and causing issues but probably good if you are an insider maybe its certainly faster.

Not that intels are bad or anything.

After spectre amd seemed to be the more secure but at least right now its hard to get a nonbranded unlocked amd system and mostly its intel in local stores anyway.

On the other side, unless you use an old a class generation or gen1 ryzen microsoft is more leniant towards amd as an upgrade path.

My at least 4 or now 5 year old amd 2nd ryzen will make the upgrade path while all intel units below 8th gen will not so an amd system does have the advantage.

Also while intel has tpm amd at least mine has in conjunction to tpm their own security module called sp10 and also has an actual processer devoted to security so there's that.




On 5/08/2021 2:51 pm, Gene wrote:
I just checked.  this is about an eleven year old Windows 7 laptop in what was then a moderate price range, about $500.  The processor is a 2.51GHZ unit.  The minimum requirement for JAWS is a 1.5GHZ processor.  . 
 
Gene
From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2021 9:40 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Intel or AMD: does the processor make a difference to NVDA
 
I hope techs comment on this, agreeing or not.  Screen-readers aren’t resource hogs and they don’t require fast processors.  My understanding is that if a computer runs well in general, it will run well with a screen-reader.
 
However, the newer synthesizers that require more resources and aren’t as responsive as the older ones may require discussion.  My impression is that people generally use the newer less responsive synthesizers for listening to documents and they use older responsive synthesizers such as Eloquence for work.
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Arlene
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2021 9:25 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Intel or AMD: does the processor make a difference to NVDA
 

Hi, I am not sure if I’m a good help. I know with Jaws you need a faster processor I  could be lying. Not sure about NVDA. I know Jaws is a resource hog. I’m not sure anymore.  It depends on what you are going to do with your computer.  If you are going to do radio shows using a computer. Yu do need a fast processor.  If you are going to play games or record shows then you may need a faster computer. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Pranav Lal
Sent: August 4, 2021 5:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Intel or AMD: does the processor make a difference to NVDA

 

Hi all,

 

I am planning to upgrade my desktop. Do CPU brands  make a difference to how

well a screen reader runs? Will NVDA work as well with an intel CPU as with

a AMD CPU?

 

I suspect it does not but prefer checking.

 

Pranav

 

 

 

 

 

 



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locked Re: Intel or AMD: does the processor make a difference to NVDA

 

Well having both both are fine.

Amd do get regular non whql drivers so you do get the latest so there is more chance for your version being compatible with the latest version of windows however at the same time you can bump into a version not compatible and causing issues but probably good if you are an insider maybe its certainly faster.

Not that intels are bad or anything.

After spectre amd seemed to be the more secure but at least right now its hard to get a nonbranded unlocked amd system and mostly its intel in local stores anyway.

On the other side, unless you use an old a class generation or gen1 ryzen microsoft is more leniant towards amd as an upgrade path.

My at least 4 or now 5 year old amd 2nd ryzen will make the upgrade path while all intel units below 8th gen will not so an amd system does have the advantage.

Also while intel has tpm amd at least mine has in conjunction to tpm their own security module called sp10 and also has an actual processer devoted to security so there's that.




On 5/08/2021 2:51 pm, Gene wrote:
I just checked.  this is about an eleven year old Windows 7 laptop in what was then a moderate price range, about $500.  The processor is a 2.51GHZ unit.  The minimum requirement for JAWS is a 1.5GHZ processor.  . 
 
Gene
From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2021 9:40 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Intel or AMD: does the processor make a difference to NVDA
 
I hope techs comment on this, agreeing or not.  Screen-readers aren’t resource hogs and they don’t require fast processors.  My understanding is that if a computer runs well in general, it will run well with a screen-reader.
 
However, the newer synthesizers that require more resources and aren’t as responsive as the older ones may require discussion.  My impression is that people generally use the newer less responsive synthesizers for listening to documents and they use older responsive synthesizers such as Eloquence for work.
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Arlene
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2021 9:25 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Intel or AMD: does the processor make a difference to NVDA
 

Hi, I am not sure if I’m a good help. I know with Jaws you need a faster processor I  could be lying. Not sure about NVDA. I know Jaws is a resource hog. I’m not sure anymore.  It depends on what you are going to do with your computer.  If you are going to do radio shows using a computer. Yu do need a fast processor.  If you are going to play games or record shows then you may need a faster computer. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Pranav Lal
Sent: August 4, 2021 5:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Intel or AMD: does the processor make a difference to NVDA

 

Hi all,

 

I am planning to upgrade my desktop. Do CPU brands  make a difference to how

well a screen reader runs? Will NVDA work as well with an intel CPU as with

a AMD CPU?

 

I suspect it does not but prefer checking.

 

Pranav

 

 

 

 

 

 


locked Re: Intel or AMD: does the processor make a difference to NVDA

Monte Single
 

Hi Pranav

 

The first p c I purchased almost 25 years ago  had an a m d processor.

Currently, I am using a 5 year old h p desktop with a 6th gen I core 5 processor.

 

I can never afford the latest, and greatest, but currently,  from what I hear from various sources,  the a m d Rizon processors   are a better choice in terms of performance and price.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pranav Lal
Sent: August 4, 2021 9:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Intel or AMD: does the processor make a difference to NVDA

 

Hi all,

 

Many thanks for confirming. I am still shopping around so lets see what is available here and what I can get. Good  to know I have options.

 

Pranav


locked Re: Intel or AMD: does the processor make a difference to NVDA

Vaibhav Saraf
 

Hi Pranav,

I have two machines, one with Intel and one with AMD. NVDA works smoothly on both.

Thanks,
Vaibhav



On Thu, 5 Aug 2021 at 09:23, Pranav Lal <pranav@...> wrote:

Hi all,

 

Many thanks for confirming. I am still shopping around so lets see what is available here and what I can get. Good  to know I have options.

 

Pranav


locked Re: Intel or AMD: does the processor make a difference to NVDA

Pranav Lal
 

Hi all,

 

Many thanks for confirming. I am still shopping around so lets see what is available here and what I can get. Good  to know I have options.

 

Pranav


Re: How should I read the parameter information of each method in Visual Studio?

Rowen Cary
 

I suspect this is a bug of NVDA, I may need to create an issue.


locked Re: Intel or AMD: does the processor make a difference to NVDA

Gene
 

I just checked.  this is about an eleven year old Windows 7 laptop in what was then a moderate price range, about $500.  The processor is a 2.51GHZ unit.  The minimum requirement for JAWS is a 1.5GHZ processor.  . 
 
Gene

From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2021 9:40 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Intel or AMD: does the processor make a difference to NVDA
 
I hope techs comment on this, agreeing or not.  Screen-readers aren’t resource hogs and they don’t require fast processors.  My understanding is that if a computer runs well in general, it will run well with a screen-reader.
 
However, the newer synthesizers that require more resources and aren’t as responsive as the older ones may require discussion.  My impression is that people generally use the newer less responsive synthesizers for listening to documents and they use older responsive synthesizers such as Eloquence for work.
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Arlene
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2021 9:25 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Intel or AMD: does the processor make a difference to NVDA
 

Hi, I am not sure if I’m a good help. I know with Jaws you need a faster processor I  could be lying. Not sure about NVDA. I know Jaws is a resource hog. I’m not sure anymore.  It depends on what you are going to do with your computer.  If you are going to do radio shows using a computer. Yu do need a fast processor.  If you are going to play games or record shows then you may need a faster computer. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Pranav Lal
Sent: August 4, 2021 5:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Intel or AMD: does the processor make a difference to NVDA

 

Hi all,

 

I am planning to upgrade my desktop. Do CPU brands  make a difference to how

well a screen reader runs? Will NVDA work as well with an intel CPU as with

a AMD CPU?

 

I suspect it does not but prefer checking.

 

Pranav

 

 

 

 

 

 


locked Re: Intel or AMD: does the processor make a difference to NVDA

Gene
 

I hope techs comment on this, agreeing or not.  Screen-readers aren’t resource hogs and they don’t require fast processors.  My understanding is that if a computer runs well in general, it will run well with a screen-reader.
 
However, the newer synthesizers that require more resources and aren’t as responsive as the older ones may require discussion.  My impression is that people generally use the newer less responsive synthesizers for listening to documents and they use older responsive synthesizers such as Eloquence for work.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Arlene
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2021 9:25 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Intel or AMD: does the processor make a difference to NVDA
 

Hi, I am not sure if I’m a good help. I know with Jaws you need a faster processor I  could be lying. Not sure about NVDA. I know Jaws is a resource hog. I’m not sure anymore.  It depends on what you are going to do with your computer.  If you are going to do radio shows using a computer. Yu do need a fast processor.  If you are going to play games or record shows then you may need a faster computer. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Pranav Lal
Sent: August 4, 2021 5:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Intel or AMD: does the processor make a difference to NVDA

 

Hi all,

 

I am planning to upgrade my desktop. Do CPU brands  make a difference to how

well a screen reader runs? Will NVDA work as well with an intel CPU as with

a AMD CPU?

 

I suspect it does not but prefer checking.

 

Pranav

 

 

 

 

 

 


locked Re: Intel or AMD: does the processor make a difference to NVDA

Arlene
 

Hi, I am not sure if I’m a good help. I know with Jaws you need a faster processor I  could be lying. Not sure about NVDA. I know Jaws is a resource hog. I’m not sure anymore.  It depends on what you are going to do with your computer.  If you are going to do radio shows using a computer. Yu do need a fast processor.  If you are going to play games or record shows then you may need a faster computer. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Pranav Lal
Sent: August 4, 2021 5:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Intel or AMD: does the processor make a difference to NVDA

 

Hi all,

 

I am planning to upgrade my desktop. Do CPU brands  make a difference to how

well a screen reader runs? Will NVDA work as well with an intel CPU as with

a AMD CPU?

 

I suspect it does not but prefer checking.

 

Pranav

 

 

 

 

 

 


locked Re: Intel or AMD: does the processor make a difference to NVDA

 

And I'll be a third.  I've never noticed any difference in how either NVDA or JAWS runs on Intel versus AMD processors.
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locked Re: Intel or AMD: does the processor make a difference to NVDA

Tyler Wood
 

Hi,
Not in the slightest.
Go with whatever you fancy and you'll be happy, at this point. I own a 1st generation Ryzen (1800x) and various Intel processors. I see no difference at all both in response time and more importantly to me, browsing windows explorer, which used to be a huge problem with NVDA.
hope that helps and best of luck with your decision.

On Wed, Aug 4, 2021 at 7:02 PM Pranav Lal <pranav@...> wrote:
Hi all,

I am planning to upgrade my desktop. Do CPU brands  make a difference to how
well a screen reader runs? Will NVDA work as well with an intel CPU as with
a AMD CPU?

I suspect it does not but prefer checking.

Pranav







locked Re: Intel or AMD: does the processor make a difference to NVDA

JM Casey
 

I have run screen-readers on both Intel and AMDs (I have an AMD right now)
and not n noticed any difference in behaviour or performnace. I feel like it
would be quite strange if there was a difference, but maybe someone with
more nowledge of Cpu hardware can clarify how this might in fact be a thing.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pranav Lal
Sent: August 4, 2021 08:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Intel or AMD: does the processor make a difference to NVDA

Hi all,

I am planning to upgrade my desktop. Do CPU brands make a difference to how
well a screen reader runs? Will NVDA work as well with an intel CPU as with
a AMD CPU?

I suspect it does not but prefer checking.

Pranav


locked Intel or AMD: does the processor make a difference to NVDA

Pranav Lal
 

Hi all,

I am planning to upgrade my desktop. Do CPU brands make a difference to how
well a screen reader runs? Will NVDA work as well with an intel CPU as with
a AMD CPU?

I suspect it does not but prefer checking.

Pranav


Re: Vocalizer Compact Voices for NVDA

Rui Fontes
 

Vocalizer for NVDA from Tiflotecnia allows the use of compact voices...


Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 18:10 de 04/08/2021, Daniel McGee escreveu:

Hello everyone


Are there any versions of the vocalizer voices that support, the compact variant which can be used with NVDA?


Using latest versions of NVDA and Windows 10.


Thank you


Daniel




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