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locked Re: Tips on using windows10

Ibrahim Ajayi
 

Hi good people:
I've just successfully upgraded my laptop computer to windows10.
But the system still appears very difficult for me to understand and navigate.
I attempted to install some downloaded programs includdddinnng NVDA,
but each time I attempted, windows defender prevened th installation.
I attempted to install the apps, but windows defender prevented the
installation. I was prompted to restart my computer, aaaaandwhen I did
aaaall the downloaded programs I atteempted tto install, all
disappeeeaaarred.
On the other hand, I cannot open the flash drive where I have these
programs backed up. I cannot find the computer icon or my computer on
the desktop.
So, my questions are: how can I open the fllaaasssssssh
drrrivvvveeee,,,, aaaaaand ssseeeeccccoonnnndlyyyyy,,,,
hhhoooooow ccaaaan I prevent windows defender from preventing
mmmmmeeeee frrrromm installing the apps. or how can I remove windows
defender.
Hope my questions are very well understoodddddd.... I am currenly
using narrator to access the computer.
I'm sorry about the bad typing of this mail. I am typing it on my
phone, using a bluetooth keyboard. I just don't uunnnnndeeersttand
wwwhyyy ssssooome letterrs appear many times and some get missing.
Thanking you in advance for your help.
Ibrahim.

On 8/2/21, hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:
Hi


The following page from off my website might help.

These were some of the things I changed on my windows 10 computer.


The link to this page is
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20windows%2010.html

<http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20windows%2010.html>

Jump down by a few heading until you get to the tutorials as the earlier
stuff is where to get nvda etc.


Gene nz


On 2/08/2021 11:44 pm, Ibrahim Ajayi wrote:

I'm just about to upgrade my laptop computer to windows10 from
windows7, and I have no knowledge about this operating system windows10.
So, my questions are these: how is the layout of the operating system.
Is it like that of windows7 or XP. what about the desktop, how is it
laid out. Then the user section where you have the folders like
documents pictures music control panel and all that: how are they laid
out. Then, are there any new features in this operating system that
are not found in windows7? then what about the start menu: how isit
laid out. How does one launch a program.
I am asking all these because I am a layman, as far as windows10 is
concerned.
Hope to get some help as always.
Kind regards.
Ibrahim.






Re: Resource: Youtube Video From Thee Quinn: How to Use Microsoft Access With NVDA: Part 1

Richard B. McDonald
 

WOW, this girl is *SO* good!  She is to be commended.  I have always wondered, and struggled with, how to use Access.  Finally, someone did it!

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 6:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Resource: Youtube Video From Thee Quinn: How to Use Microsoft Access With NVDA: Part 1

 

 

User Thee Quinn has uploaded the first in a series of videos discussing using Microsoft Access with the NVDA screen reader.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jWI0YylFU8

 

 

David Goldfield,

Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

JAWS Certified, 2019

Subscribe to the Tech-VI announcement list to receive emails regarding news and events in the blindness assistive technology field.

Email: tech-vi+subscribe@groups.io

 

www.DavidGoldfield.org

 

 

 


Re: Vocalizer Compact Voices for NVDA

Daniel McGee
 

Hi Rui


Good news, I managed to register an account and use the temp activation you provided. The bad news, is this the latest version of the compact voices you have? because the voice sounds like it was back in the IOS 9 days / Mac OS Mavericks. Since then, they have been significantly improved.


I look forward to hearing from you about this.


Regards


Daniel

On 05/08/2021 12:20, Rui Fontes wrote:
Hello!


You can use this activation code temporarly:

tiflotecnia-wuvrDGn8HlbCLRh5Fc8zcfaaJHWt61o6


Have you read how to create an account and activate it?


Best regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.



Às 22:28 de 05/08/2021, Daniel McGee escreveu:
So there isn't a trial before purchase?

On 5 Aug 2021, at 20:49, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:

The synth is not loaded without a valid license.


Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.



Às 18:47 de 05/08/2021, Daniel McGee escreveu:
Hello Rui


So I have downloaded the Tiflotecnia, addons for NVDA 2021.1


However, when I bring up the select synthesizer dialog box, I don't see the Tiflotecnia, version of the voices.


Here are the addon versions I have installed below.


Vocalizer Expressive 1.1 Driver bl...
3.1.6
Tiflotecnia, LDA.


Nuance Vocalizer Expressive - english Compact Voices (Australia, British, Irish, Scotish, South African and United States. Version: 1.1.1


Hope this is of some help.


Daniel


   On 04/08/2021 11:11, Rui Fontes wrote:

Vocalizer for NVDA from Tiflotecnia allows the use of compact voices...


Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 18:10 de 04/08/2021, Daniel McGee escreveu:
Hello everyone


Are there any versions of the vocalizer voices that support, the compact variant which can be used with NVDA?


Using latest versions of NVDA and Windows 10.


Thank you


Daniel















Re: Vocalizer Compact Voices for NVDA

Rui Fontes
 

Sorry!


This code is deactivated!


Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 00:20 de 06/08/2021, Rui Fontes via groups.io escreveu:

Hello!


You can use this activation code temporarly:

tiflotecnia-wuvrDGn8HlbCLRh5Fc8zcfaaJHWt61o6


Have you read how to create an account and activate it?


Best regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.



Às 22:28 de 05/08/2021, Daniel McGee escreveu:
So there isn't a trial before purchase?

On 5 Aug 2021, at 20:49, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:

The synth is not loaded without a valid license.


Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.



Às 18:47 de 05/08/2021, Daniel McGee escreveu:
Hello Rui


So I have downloaded the Tiflotecnia, addons for NVDA 2021.1


However, when I bring up the select synthesizer dialog box, I don't see the Tiflotecnia, version of the voices.


Here are the addon versions I have installed below.


Vocalizer Expressive 1.1 Driver bl...
3.1.6
Tiflotecnia, LDA.


Nuance Vocalizer Expressive - english Compact Voices (Australia, British, Irish, Scotish, South African and United States. Version: 1.1.1


Hope this is of some help.


Daniel


   On 04/08/2021 11:11, Rui Fontes wrote:

Vocalizer for NVDA from Tiflotecnia allows the use of compact voices...


Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 18:10 de 04/08/2021, Daniel McGee escreveu:
Hello everyone


Are there any versions of the vocalizer voices that support, the compact variant which can be used with NVDA?


Using latest versions of NVDA and Windows 10.


Thank you


Daniel















Re: Vocalizer Compact Voices for NVDA

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!


You can use this activation code temporarly:

tiflotecnia-wuvrDGn8HlbCLRh5Fc8zcfaaJHWt61o6


Have you read how to create an account and activate it?


Best regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.



Às 22:28 de 05/08/2021, Daniel McGee escreveu:

So there isn't a trial before purchase?

On 5 Aug 2021, at 20:49, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:

The synth is not loaded without a valid license.


Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.



Às 18:47 de 05/08/2021, Daniel McGee escreveu:
Hello Rui


So I have downloaded the Tiflotecnia, addons for NVDA 2021.1


However, when I bring up the select synthesizer dialog box, I don't see the Tiflotecnia, version of the voices.


Here are the addon versions I have installed below.


Vocalizer Expressive 1.1 Driver bl...
3.1.6
Tiflotecnia, LDA.


Nuance Vocalizer Expressive - english Compact Voices (Australia, British, Irish, Scotish, South African and United States. Version: 1.1.1


Hope this is of some help.


Daniel


On 04/08/2021 11:11, Rui Fontes wrote:

Vocalizer for NVDA from Tiflotecnia allows the use of compact voices...


Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 18:10 de 04/08/2021, Daniel McGee escreveu:
Hello everyone


Are there any versions of the vocalizer voices that support, the compact variant which can be used with NVDA?


Using latest versions of NVDA and Windows 10.


Thank you


Daniel












Re: NVDA audio routing

Sarah k Alawami
 

Actually, it's tab once, not twice, at least on my copy of nvda. I've also done config profiles for this, but I don't care to do such, not all the time.

On 5 Aug 2021, at 12:56, Jujube wrote:

Yes there is. Press nvda control s to open synthesizer dialog and press tab twice to get to the sound device box, choose your option and press enter. Alternatively you can also configure in windows sound mixer (type sound mixer into windows search).

On 8/5/21, JinYoun healthytaeshim@... wrote: > Hello, I was just curious, is there a way to route NVDA sound to > headset and > have all other sound play through the default speaker for the pc? > Thank you > > > > > >


Re: how to switch speech language

Sauro Cesaretti
 

Hello everyone,
Very helpful, thanks for all the suggestions.
Best regards,Sauro


2021-08-05 9:02 GMT+02:00, Ali Colak <alish54@...>:

If you commonly switch between two languages and want to this on the
fly instead of going through the voices dialogue, then Fawaz Abdul
rahman's suggestion is the best option.
1: press nvda+control+p to go to the configurations profiles menu.
2: Tab until you get the new button.
3: Name it whatever you wish, ideally a discriptive name.
4: Press tab to check the manual activation radio button.
5: Press OK.
6: Close the menue.
7: Switch to whatever language you want in the profile through
control+nvda+v, then save that configuration with control+nvda+c.
8: Go the nvda preferences menu, then input gestures.
9: Down arrow until you see Configuration profiles and right arrow to
expand.
10: Down arrow until you hear the name of the profile you created,
than tab until you hear add and press enter or the space bar.
11: Press the key combination you want to associate with that profile,
ideal a combination that isn't already associated with something.
12: A context menue will appear asking you which keyboard leyout you
want the combination associated with, select whichever you wish, --I
advise all keyboard layouts-- then press enter.
13: tab until you hear OK and press enter.
14: Press the key combination to activate and deactivate the profile,
which will switch you the language you associated with the account and
back.

On 8/4/21, Jujube <ellaxyu@...> wrote:
I believe the command to access the voice dialog is control nvda V.
Press control nvda g to change interface language.

On 8/4/21, Sauro Cesaretti <saurocesaretti1983@...> wrote:
Hello everyone,
I'm Sauro Cesaretti from italy.
I'd like to kindly ask if there is a shortcut to switch quickly the
language speech.
In particular, I need to switch form Italin to english voice with
windows core voices, is it possible to do it with a shortcut?
Thanks in advance
Best regards,Sauro Cesaretti














Re: Vocalizer Compact Voices for NVDA

Daniel McGee
 

So there isn't a trial before purchase?

On 5 Aug 2021, at 20:49, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:

The synth is not loaded without a valid license.


Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.



Às 18:47 de 05/08/2021, Daniel McGee escreveu:
Hello Rui


So I have downloaded the Tiflotecnia, addons for NVDA 2021.1


However, when I bring up the select synthesizer dialog box, I don't see the Tiflotecnia, version of the voices.


Here are the addon versions I have installed below.


Vocalizer Expressive 1.1 Driver bl...
3.1.6
Tiflotecnia, LDA.


Nuance Vocalizer Expressive - english Compact Voices (Australia, British, Irish, Scotish, South African and United States. Version: 1.1.1


Hope this is of some help.


Daniel


On 04/08/2021 11:11, Rui Fontes wrote:

Vocalizer for NVDA from Tiflotecnia allows the use of compact voices...


Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 18:10 de 04/08/2021, Daniel McGee escreveu:
Hello everyone


Are there any versions of the vocalizer voices that support, the compact variant which can be used with NVDA?


Using latest versions of NVDA and Windows 10.


Thank you


Daniel














Re: NVDA audio routing

JinYoun
 

Wow, thank you all for the simple tip! Much appreciate it.

On 8/5/21, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:
This was actually just discussed. Nvda control s, tab, choose device,
enter.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of JinYoun
Sent: Thursday, August 5, 2021 12:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA audio routing



Hello, I was just curious, is there a way to route NVDA sound to headset and
have all other sound play through the default speaker for the pc?
Thank you









Re: speech rate changes to defaults

George Kerscher
 

Hello,

 

Two items as follow up:

The NVDA+CTRL+R worked most of the time. Only occasionally I had to made a change.

I did run SFC and it showed no errors. I switched to Eloquence, and have not had the problem again. I think the old Eloquence, which did not work with 2021 and was disabled was somehow causing the problem.

 

So, life is good.

 

Best

George

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2021 4:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] speech rate changes to defaults

 

Do I  understand that you are using a profile for Outlook and the standard settings for most else?  I don’t know what is causing the problem or if that has anything to do with anything.

 

This may or may not work, but you may be able to deal with the problem so quickly that solving it no longer  matters.  The next time this happens, issue the apply configuration command, NVDA key control r.  the setting may not be lost at all.  For some reason, NVDA may not be using it and applying the saved configuration may cause it to do so again.  Since this is just one command, if it works getting the setting to work again will be so fast and convenient that you may not ;particularly care about solving the problem.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Monday, July 19, 2021 5:36 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] speech rate changes to defaults

 

Hello again,

 

Today, the rate changed to the default setting. I am running Windows 10 2021H1.

I was in Outlook and was switching between an open message and the inbox. Both the Outlook profile and the normal general configuration was impacted. I could save the profile immediately after it changed.

 

I also was in outlook with an open message and was running on battery. I left the computer, and it went to sleep.  When I woke it up, the rate changed. Here too the Outlook configuration and the default reverted to the slow speech rate.

 

I am getting pretty fast correcting this behavior, so it is not a horrible inconvenience, but it would be good to figure out what is going on.

 

Best

George

 

 

Best

George

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2021 1:49 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] speech rate changes to defaults

 

On Sun, Jul 18, 2021 at 03:39 PM, George Kerscher wrote:

I will report back here if the issue reappears. It has gone away for now, i.e. I can no longer force the behavior.

-
First, thank you for such a fine report on your findings, how to force the issue you had, and how you've resolved it.

Please report back even if the issue does not reappear for a period of time where you're reasonably confident that "the fix has taken."  That's valuable information to have, too.  Also, if it should recur at some unspecified point in time in the future, please report that, too, as these things can often have multiple contributing factors.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.

     ~ Mark Twain

 


Re: NVDA audio routing

Sarah k Alawami
 

This was actually just discussed. Nvda control s, tab, choose device, enter.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of JinYoun
Sent: Thursday, August 5, 2021 12:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA audio routing

 

Hello, I was just curious, is there a way to route NVDA sound to headset and have all other sound play through the default speaker for the pc?
Thank you 


Re: NVDA audio routing

Jujube
 

Yes there is. Press nvda control s to open synthesizer dialog and
press tab twice to get to the sound device box, choose your option and
press enter. Alternatively you can also configure in windows sound
mixer (type sound mixer into windows search).

On 8/5/21, JinYoun <healthytaeshim@...> wrote:
Hello, I was just curious, is there a way to route NVDA sound to headset and
have all other sound play through the default speaker for the pc?
Thank you






Re: NVDA audio routing

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!


Press NVDA+Control+S;

Tab once and select the sound card you want...


Rui Fontes


Às 20:30 de 05/08/2021, JinYoun escreveu:

Hello, I was just curious, is there a way to route NVDA sound to headset and have all other sound play through the default speaker for the pc?
Thank you 


Re: Vocalizer Compact Voices for NVDA

Rui Fontes
 

The synth is not loaded without a valid license.


Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.



Às 18:47 de 05/08/2021, Daniel McGee escreveu:

Hello Rui


So I have downloaded the Tiflotecnia, addons for NVDA 2021.1


However, when I bring up the select synthesizer dialog box, I don't see the Tiflotecnia, version of the voices.


Here are the addon versions I have installed below.


Vocalizer Expressive 1.1 Driver bl...
3.1.6
Tiflotecnia, LDA.


Nuance Vocalizer Expressive - english Compact Voices (Australia, British, Irish, Scotish, South African and United States. Version: 1.1.1


Hope this is of some help.


Daniel


  On 04/08/2021 11:11, Rui Fontes wrote:

Vocalizer for NVDA from Tiflotecnia allows the use of compact voices...


Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 18:10 de 04/08/2021, Daniel McGee escreveu:
Hello everyone


Are there any versions of the vocalizer voices that support, the compact variant which can be used with NVDA?


Using latest versions of NVDA and Windows 10.


Thank you


Daniel











NVDA audio routing

JinYoun
 

Hello, I was just curious, is there a way to route NVDA sound to headset and have all other sound play through the default speaker for the pc?
Thank you 


Welcome to the NVDA Community Add-ons website - Search With #nvdaaddonsfeed

nvda@nvda.groups.io Integration <nvda@...>
 

Search With

  • Author: Ibrahim Hamadeh
  • Download Stable Version
  • NVDA compatibility: 2019.3 and beyond

This addon helps you to search text, via various search engines. Let no text selected, and press the gesture of the addon, a dialog will be displayed, with an edit box to enter a search query, to search with Google press enter, or tab to search with other engins.

And if you want to search for selected text, select some text and press once, a menu will be displayed with various search engines to choose. and you can if you like, press the gesture twice to search selected text with Google directly.

The Default gesture for the addon is: NVDA+ Windows+ S. If the keystroke do not work for you, or conflict with other keystroke, you can as always add a gesture or change the existent one going to : NVDA menu>preferences>inputGestures>Search With category.

Usage

  • If you want to enter a search query, just press the addon gesture

a dialog will be displayed, with an edit field to enter the search term.

  • Want to search with Google? just press enter
  • Otherwise tab to Other Engines button, and give it a space, a popup menu will show up, with various search engines to choose.

Yahoo, Bing, DuckDuckGo, and Youtube.

This is the default menu, and you may modify it from addon's setting panel.

  • Another way to use the addon, is by selecting some text.

And on Pressing the addon's gesture, or any other you have assigned to it, a virtual menu will be displayed with various search engines, either the default menu, or any other you have tailed to your needs.

Choose one and press enter, the default browser will open displaying search results. or, if you want to search with Google directly, press the gesture twice, and you are done.

  • Want to modify Search with menu?

Yes you can do that from the setting panel, and adjust the menu to fit to your mood and needs.

You can from there, add to Search with menu, other available search engines.

And you can if you like, remove an item from it, move item up, move item down, or return and set menu to default state.

  • If you want these modifications to be permanent, you have to save configuration after wards.
  • Want to search Google using other language options?

Then, go to Search With category in setting panels, from the cumbo box there, you can choose search Google either:

1.  Using browser settings and language.
2.  Using NVDA language.
3.  Using windows language.
  • Lastly, if you want to have last spoken text as default query in Search with dialog, you have the ability to do that, through Use last spoken as default query check box in setting panel.

And that's it, hope to search for good and find it, happy searching!

Changes for 1.2

  • Add more sites that could be added to menu, such as Stackoverflow, Stackexchange, GoogleBooks and others.
  • Add the options to use last spoken text as default query, in search with dialog.

Changes for 0.4

  • Add a dialog if no text selected, to enter a search query.
  • Make possible to modify Search with menu from setting panel, to fit to user needs.

Changes for 0.3

  • Add setting panel, giving more language options in Google search.

Changes for 0.1

  • Initial version


Re: QT Applications are not accessible until I restart NVDA

Lukasz Golonka
 

On Thu, 5 Aug 2021 22:41:11 +0530
"Ravi Pinapaka" <psvkravi@...> wrote:

Hi,

Applications that are built using the QT GUI framework are not accessible
until I restart NVDA.
Cannot reproduce here. Apps I've tried are VirtualBox, MikTeX console
and XAMPP. With what software are you experiencing this exactly?

--
Regards
Lukasz


Re: Vocalizer Compact Voices for NVDA

Daniel McGee
 

Hello Rui


So I have downloaded the Tiflotecnia, addons for NVDA 2021.1


However, when I bring up the select synthesizer dialog box, I don't see the Tiflotecnia, version of the voices.


Here are the addon versions I have installed below.


Vocalizer Expressive 1.1 Driver bl...
3.1.6
Tiflotecnia, LDA.


Nuance Vocalizer Expressive - english Compact Voices (Australia, British, Irish, Scotish, South African and United States. Version: 1.1.1


Hope this is of some help.


Daniel

On 04/08/2021 11:11, Rui Fontes wrote:

Vocalizer for NVDA from Tiflotecnia allows the use of compact voices...


Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 18:10 de 04/08/2021, Daniel McGee escreveu:
Hello everyone


Are there any versions of the vocalizer voices that support, the compact variant which can be used with NVDA?


Using latest versions of NVDA and Windows 10.


Thank you


Daniel








QT Applications are not accessible until I restart NVDA

Ravi Pinapaka
 

Hi,

Applications that are built using the QT GUI framework are not accessible until I restart NVDA.

Here's what's happening step-by-step:
1. I opened a QT application. Application is not accessible.
2. I restart NVDA. Application is now accessible.
3. I closed and reopened the application. Not accessible again until I restart NVDA again.

I've checked with multiple QT applications and all of them have this issue. There's nothing in the log either after "NVDA Initialized". Pretty sure it's an NVDA issue as it's working after restarting NVDA and Jaws is working without any issues at all.

Does anyone know what's causing this and how to fix it?

Thanks,
Ravi


Re: Issue With Thunderbird And Account Settings In A Recent Update

Gene
 

The solution you found and that I discussed works in various browsers as well.  It may work in other programs but browsers and Thunderbird are where I have found this to be necessary to see the full interface.  And it may be necessary to work with history as well. 
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2021 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Issue With Thunderbird And Account Settings In A Recent Update
 
I suspect the problem is that you are in browse mode or that the virtual pc cursor is active, depending on your screen-reader.  When I am in an interface like this where I can’t vfind what I should find, I check to see if I can turn off browse mode in NVDA or the virtual pc cursor in JAWS. 
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2021 9:40 AM
Subject: [nvda] Issue With Thunderbird And Account Settings In A Recent Update
 
Hi Group,

In an attempt to help a person on another list, I wanted to see what
port configuration was used by Gmail, I think it is 467 and 995, but I
wanted to be sure. In any case,  when I go to tools/account settings,
something has changed with a recent version of Thunderbird. There used
to be an accessible tree view for each account you had set up which you
could access by using the up/down arrow keys and the tab and shift + tab
keystrokes. Now when I access the account settings, all  that is visible
is one element of a tree view that does not read a name and then an HTML
type interface that is largely unusable.

Has anyone else tried to manually edit their account settings recently
and have you experienced this issue? If so, is there a solution?  Thanks
for any help.

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