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Re: A point to consider about Eloquence

Sarah k Alawami
 

It's on the aTGuys website. Do a search for eloquence add on. I do not have a link handy.

On 13 Aug 2021, at 8:12, Akash Kakkar wrote:

Sarah, which addon you are referring to? David's IBM TTS? or any other? If it is any another then please give the link. would like to buy it.


Re: A point to consider about Eloquence

Akash Kakkar
 

Sarah, which addon you are referring to? David's IBM TTS? or any other? If it is any another then please give the link. would like to buy it.


Re: A point to consider about Eloquence

Sarah k Alawami
 

If you want both, it is about 150 or so. The nvda add on that includes the sapi and eloquence is $69. So the  add on is a better deal as you get both for half the cost.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 8:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A point to consider about Eloquence

 

The last I checked, I thought the ;price was about the same. 

 

Others may have compared. Mine is an impression, not a good memory.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 10:31 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] A point to consider about Eloquence

 

That, and it’s about half the cost of the SAPI version. I’d go with the add on any day.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 8:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] A point to consider about Eloquence

 

I got Nimer’s permission to send this message regarding Eloquence.

 

There is a point worth considering when deciding between the add-on and the MSAPI version that hasn’t been discussed in the recent thread.  The add-on won’t work for brief times, ;perhaps once a year.  When there is a major upgrade of NVDA, it may become incompatible until it is updated.  I believe it has taken about four or five days in the past. 

 

If you use the MSAPI5 version, it will work with any version of NVDA so when there is a major update, this problem won’t occur. 

 

There may be other things to consider when deciding which one to get, such as responsiveness, but if things are pretty much equal between them, this is a point to consider when deciding which one to purchase.

 

Gene


Re: A point to consider about Eloquence

Josh Kennedy
 

I own the sapi5 eloquence from codeFactory and I also own the addon. I don't see any difference with responsiveness because they are both equally very responsive and fast. The sapi5 one is better because it just works with no addon required. 


Re: excel 365

Rui Fontes
 

Try pressing ScrolLock.


Rui Fontes


Às 14:18 de 13/08/2021, Robert Doc Wright godfearer escreveu:

When I open excel I cannot move in any direction. I'm not sure what is different now. 


Re: excel 365

David Goldfield
 

Check to make sure that your scroll lock key is not enabled. If it is disable it and then see if Excel works properly. 

     David Goldfield
Assistive Technology Specialist

Feel free to visit my Web site
WWW.DavidGoldfield.info

On Aug 13, 2021, at 9:18 AM, Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@...> wrote:


When I open excel I cannot move in any direction. I'm not sure what is different now. 


excel 365

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

When I open excel I cannot move in any direction. I'm not sure what is different now. 


How can I tell if a cell is grayed out in Excel?

Eric Brinkman <eric.brinkman1@...>
 

For a project, I need to go through a spreadsheet and bypass any cells
that are grayed out. How can NVDA (or Jaws) tell me if a cell is
grayed out?

Thanks in advance,
Eric


Re: A point to consider about Eloquence

Greg Wocher
 

Hello,
If you buy the add-on version you get both eloquence and vocalizer. If you get the SAPI version you only get one or the other but not both. 

Greg Wocher


On Aug 12, 2021, at 11:41 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

The last I checked, I thought the ;price was about the same.  
 
Others may have compared. Mine is an impression, not a good memory.
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 10:31 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] A point to consider about Eloquence
 
That, and it’s about half the cost of the SAPI version. I’d go with the add on any day.
 
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io<nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 8:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] A point to consider about Eloquence
 
I got Nimer’s permission to send this message regarding Eloquence.
 
There is a point worth considering when deciding between the add-on and the MSAPI version that hasn’t been discussed in the recent thread.  The add-on won’t work for brief times, ;perhaps once a year.  When there is a major upgrade of NVDA, it may become incompatible until it is updated.  I believe it has taken about four or five days in the past.  
 
If you use the MSAPI5 version, it will work with any version of NVDA so when there is a major update, this problem won’t occur.  
 
There may be other things to consider when deciding which one to get, such as responsiveness, but if things are pretty much equal between them, this is a point to consider when deciding which one to purchase.
 
Gene



Re: A point to consider about Eloquence

Gene
 

The last I checked, I thought the ;price was about the same. 
 
Others may have compared. Mine is an impression, not a good memory.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 10:31 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] A point to consider about Eloquence
 

That, and it’s about half the cost of the SAPI version. I’d go with the add on any day.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 8:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] A point to consider about Eloquence

 

I got Nimer’s permission to send this message regarding Eloquence.

 

There is a point worth considering when deciding between the add-on and the MSAPI version that hasn’t been discussed in the recent thread.  The add-on won’t work for brief times, ;perhaps once a year.  When there is a major upgrade of NVDA, it may become incompatible until it is updated.  I believe it has taken about four or five days in the past. 

 

If you use the MSAPI5 version, it will work with any version of NVDA so when there is a major update, this problem won’t occur. 

 

There may be other things to consider when deciding which one to get, such as responsiveness, but if things are pretty much equal between them, this is a point to consider when deciding which one to purchase.

 

Gene


Re: A point to consider about Eloquence

Sarah k Alawami
 

That, and it’s about half the cost of the SAPI version. I’d go with the add on any day.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 8:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] A point to consider about Eloquence

 

I got Nimer’s permission to send this message regarding Eloquence.

 

There is a point worth considering when deciding between the add-on and the MSAPI version that hasn’t been discussed in the recent thread.  The add-on won’t work for brief times, ;perhaps once a year.  When there is a major upgrade of NVDA, it may become incompatible until it is updated.  I believe it has taken about four or five days in the past. 

 

If you use the MSAPI5 version, it will work with any version of NVDA so when there is a major update, this problem won’t occur. 

 

There may be other things to consider when deciding which one to get, such as responsiveness, but if things are pretty much equal between them, this is a point to consider when deciding which one to purchase.

 

Gene


Re: A point to consider about Eloquence

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Gene,


I remember seeing that about eloquence on the atguys website. It's good to know that if there's an update to NVDA that the sapi 5 version will still work.


Rosemarie



On 8/12/2021 8:08 PM, Gene wrote:

I got Nimer’s permission to send this message regarding Eloquence.
 
There is a point worth considering when deciding between the add-on and the MSAPI version that hasn’t been discussed in the recent thread.  The add-on won’t work for brief times, ;perhaps once a year.  When there is a major upgrade of NVDA, it may become incompatible until it is updated.  I believe it has taken about four or five days in the past. 
 
If you use the MSAPI5 version, it will work with any version of NVDA so when there is a major update, this problem won’t occur. 
 
There may be other things to consider when deciding which one to get, such as responsiveness, but if things are pretty much equal between them, this is a point to consider when deciding which one to purchase.
 
Gene


A point to consider about Eloquence

Gene
 

I got Nimer’s permission to send this message regarding Eloquence.
 
There is a point worth considering when deciding between the add-on and the MSAPI version that hasn’t been discussed in the recent thread.  The add-on won’t work for brief times, ;perhaps once a year.  When there is a major upgrade of NVDA, it may become incompatible until it is updated.  I believe it has taken about four or five days in the past. 
 
If you use the MSAPI5 version, it will work with any version of NVDA so when there is a major update, this problem won’t occur. 
 
There may be other things to consider when deciding which one to get, such as responsiveness, but if things are pretty much equal between them, this is a point to consider when deciding which one to purchase.
 
Gene


Re: Code Factory Voices no longer working?

Sarah k Alawami
 

Basically, and they don't really care. They have basically treated us android and from what I hear pc people like garbage.

On 12 Aug 2021, at 10:34, tim wrote:

Basicly what your saying is its a codefactory problem and needs to be taken up with them the makers.

On 8/11/2021 11:44 AM, Clement Chou wrote: > Essentially, that's correct. If your copy was activated and is > suddenly unable to connect to the server, the only options you get > will be to buy it again or try and activate it. You can't retrieve a > license that's on the server because to do anything involving > authorization, the addon has to verify using the server. So it's a > self defeating system, basically. > > On 8/11/21, Gerardo Corripio gera1027@... wrote: >> So when this happens, is there no way to deactivate for instance, >> Activation1, back to the server? Thus you lost Activation one when >> these >> server problems happen? >> >> Gera >> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel >> >>> El 11 ago 2021, a la(s) 10:11 a.m., Clement Chou >>> chou.clement@... >>> escribió: >>> >>> It's back up now, I just reactivated myu software, but always >>> good to >>> keep a backup solution handy in case the server crashes again. I >>> would >>> buy other voices, but this addon is the only one that has the >>> languages I need, at least that I know of. More's the pity. >>> >>>> On 8/11/21, Clarissa Mitchell MusicGirl712@... wrote: >>>> Oh boy! I finally got enough money in my PayPal account and I was >>>> going to buy this add-on for NVDA from AT Guys. Then I see this >>>> thread! Is the server still down, or is it back up by chance? >>>> >>>>> On 8/11/21, Daniel McGee danielmcgee134@... wrote: >>>>> Or in my case, I kept my registration key in my emails. However >>>>> created >>>>> a >>>>> folder for important stuff like this which syncs across all >>>>> devices. >>>>> >>>>>> On 11 Aug 2021, at 04:26, Gerardo Corripio gera1027@... >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Try going into where you'd activate the license; when I had >>>>>> to update >>>>>> my >>>>>> Code Factory license upon updating the addon with 21.1, the edit >>>>>> field >>>>>> where I'd have to type in my license key, was filled already >>>>>> with this >>>>>> info. So I copied and pasted it for safekeeping in a "NotePad" >>>>>> file. >>>>>> Then >>>>>> when it came time (after updating NVDA, and the Code Factory >>>>>> addon), I >>>>>> just copied and pasted the info back into the edit field. Good >>>>>> luck! >>>>>> >>>>>> Gera >>>>>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel >>>>>> >>>>>>> El 10 ago 2021, a la(s) 3:59 p.m., Rosemarie Chavarria >>>>>>> knitqueen2007@... escribió: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I saved the email that has all my info on it. That way if I >>>>>>> need to >>>>>>> reactivate my license, I don't have a problem with it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 8/10/2021 1:42 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote: >>>>>>>> Well that would depend where you got your info from. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If its for atguys you could probably ask atguys support, its >>>>>>>> probably >>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>> your order history somewhere. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have always kept things backed up but you can ask atguys for >>>>>>>> your >>>>>>>> download info and keys again. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Not sure about the service because it still shows as active >>>>>>>> here but >>>>>>>> that doesn't mean anything it simply means the software didn't >>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>> an >>>>>>>> issue when it phoned home yet. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 11/08/2021 7:52 am, Clement Chou wrote: >>>>>>>>> Woke up this morning to find Code Factory voices asking me to >>>>>>>>> re-enter >>>>>>>>> my registration or activate a trial... and when I clicked try >>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> see what happens it says there was an issue activating my >>>>>>>>> license >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> to make sure I had a working internet connection. Anyone know >>>>>>>>> what >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> deal with this is? Also seem to have somehow misplaced my >>>>>>>>> registration >>>>>>>>> info, so need to figure out how to find it. thanks. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >


Locked Re: Issues Withhhh Microsoft Edge

 

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Locked Issues Withhhh Microsoft Edge

Ibrahim Ajayi
 

Hello:
I'm still setting up my computer with windows10.
The problem now has o do with my favorites. I did import favorites from a HTML file bookmarks from a HTML file in to favorites, but they can't bee found. I can't findthem in the favorites bar, and I can't find them on my Android phone, despite th fact that sync is turned on.
So, please, what have I done wrongly, andwht am I surposed to do to get the bookmarks in to the favorites. I imported this same bookmarks in to firefox.
Please note that i copied the bookmarks by activating the favorites settings, and then activating the import and export options. I did activate the import from file option to copy the file.
Hope my issue is very well understood.
Regards.
Ibrahim.


Re: Code Factory Voices no longer working?

tim
 

Basicly what your saying is its a codefactory problem and needs to be taken up with them the makers.

On 8/11/2021 11:44 AM, Clement Chou wrote:
Essentially, that's correct. If your copy was activated and is
suddenly unable to connect to the server, the only options you get
will be to buy it again or try and activate it. You can't retrieve a
license that's on the server because to do anything involving
authorization, the addon has to verify using the server. So it's a
self defeating system, basically.

On 8/11/21, Gerardo Corripio <gera1027@...> wrote:
So when this happens, is there no way to deactivate for instance,
Activation1, back to the server? Thus you lost Activation one when these
server problems happen?

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

El 11 ago 2021, a la(s) 10:11 a.m., Clement Chou <chou.clement@...>
escribió:

It's back up now, I just reactivated myu software, but always good to
keep a backup solution handy in case the server crashes again. I would
buy other voices, but this addon is the only one that has the
languages I need, at least that I know of. More's the pity.

On 8/11/21, Clarissa Mitchell <MusicGirl712@...> wrote:
Oh boy! I finally got enough money in my PayPal account and I was
going to buy this add-on for NVDA from AT Guys. Then I see this
thread! Is the server still down, or is it back up by chance?

On 8/11/21, Daniel McGee <danielmcgee134@...> wrote:
Or in my case, I kept my registration key in my emails. However created
a
folder for important stuff like this which syncs across all devices.

On 11 Aug 2021, at 04:26, Gerardo Corripio <gera1027@...> wrote:

Try going into where you'd activate the license; when I had to update
my
Code Factory license upon updating the addon with 21.1, the edit field
where I'd have to type in my license key, was filled already with this
info. So I copied and pasted it for safekeeping in a "NotePad" file.
Then
when it came time (after updating NVDA, and the Code Factory addon), I
just copied and pasted the info back into the edit field. Good luck!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

El 10 ago 2021, a la(s) 3:59 p.m., Rosemarie Chavarria
<knitqueen2007@...> escribió:

I saved the email that has all my info on it. That way if I need to
reactivate my license, I don't have a problem with it.



On 8/10/2021 1:42 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Well that would depend where you got your info from.

If its for atguys you could probably ask atguys support, its
probably
in
your order history somewhere.

I have always kept things backed up but you can ask atguys for your
download info and keys again.

Not sure about the service because it still shows as active here but
that doesn't mean anything it simply means the software didn't have
an
issue when it phoned home yet.



On 11/08/2021 7:52 am, Clement Chou wrote:
Woke up this morning to find Code Factory voices asking me to
re-enter
my registration or activate a trial... and when I clicked try just
to
see what happens it says there was an issue activating my license
and
to make sure I had a working internet connection. Anyone know what
the
deal with this is? Also seem to have somehow misplaced my
registration
info, so need to figure out how to find it. thanks.





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Re: Code Factory Voices no longer working?

Sarah k Alawami
 

I can get about 29 megabites per second. So for me that is slow, I’m on a 1 gig up and down connection, or was I getting over 100 yesterday. Lol. I can’t remember now.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Socheat
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 1:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Code Factory Voices no longer working?

 

Also, their server to download vocalizer voice data is very slow. I can't get it above 200Kbps on my connection. But more importantly, their server for activate / deactivation is meh. 


Re: NVDA giving different results on Chrome 91 and 92

 

The URL of the page being asked about is necessary to pursue the cause(s).
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Re: Code Factory Voices no longer working?

Leo
 

Hello, to which E-mail address did you send the message?
It's because I want to know if there is a way to create a user dictionary for the SAPI 5 version of CodeFactory. The current user dictionary is based on orthographic changes rather than
Symbolic phonetic representation, which is not only more accurate but easier to define because phonetic patterns are objective and they don't depend on the perception of the user.
Other versions of eloquence have it as a constituent characteristic.
For instance, the words voila and polyglot are mispronounced by the SAPI 5 version, not saying a bunch of others.

Best,
Leo Bado.

"It seems to me that I will always be happy in the place where I am not." Paul Auster. "City of Glass"

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sam Bushman
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 6:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Code Factory Voices no longer working?

I have reported this when it first started.
No answer and I sent it in to support again .
Sam

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 1:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Code Factory Voices no longer working?

I'll have to test that, I have mine set to pitch. Is there a way we can report them to the eloquence guys, if they even listen to us anymore?

Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Clement Chou
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 10:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Code Factory Voices no longer working?

Odd thing about the new version that works with 2021.1. Eloquence is now spelling the word cap instead of just saying it before each uppercase letter. Anyone else experiencing this?

On 8/11/21, zvonimir stanečić, 9a5dsz <zvonimirek222@...> wrote:
No, asi it changes when windows is reinstalled.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerardo
Corripio
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 6:52 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Code Factory Voices no longer working?

Yes I see another edit field with the computer code, which seems to
automatically be filled in. So do you recommend saving this code too,
along with the activation key?
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

El 11 ago 2021, a la(s) 11:17 a.m., zvonimir stanečić, 9a5dsz
<zvonimirek222@...> escribió:

Not really. If you retain the computer Id, you can reactivate the
product agiain without loosing the activation count.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gerardo
Corripio
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 5:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Code Factory Voices no longer working?

So when this happens, is there no way to deactivate for instance,
Activation1, back to the server? Thus you lost Activation one when
these server problems happen?

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

El 11 ago 2021, a la(s) 10:11 a.m., Clement Chou
<chou.clement@...>
escribió:

It's back up now, I just reactivated myu software, but always good
to keep a backup solution handy in case the server crashes again. I
would buy other voices, but this addon is the only one that has the
languages I need, at least that I know of. More's the pity.

On 8/11/21, Clarissa Mitchell <MusicGirl712@...> wrote:
Oh boy! I finally got enough money in my PayPal account and I was
going to buy this add-on for NVDA from AT Guys. Then I see this
thread! Is the server still down, or is it back up by chance?

On 8/11/21, Daniel McGee <danielmcgee134@...> wrote:
Or in my case, I kept my registration key in my emails. However
created a folder for important stuff like this which syncs across
all devices.

On 11 Aug 2021, at 04:26, Gerardo Corripio <gera1027@...>
wrote:

Try going into where you'd activate the license; when I had to
update my Code Factory license upon updating the addon with 21.1,
the edit field where I'd have to type in my license key, was
filled already with this info. So I copied and pasted it for
safekeeping in a "NotePad" file.
Then
when it came time (after updating NVDA, and the Code Factory
addon), I just copied and pasted the info back into the edit field.
Good luck!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

El 10 ago 2021, a la(s) 3:59 p.m., Rosemarie Chavarria
<knitqueen2007@...> escribió:

I saved the email that has all my info on it. That way if I
need to reactivate my license, I don't have a problem with it.



On 8/10/2021 1:42 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Well that would depend where you got your info from.

If its for atguys you could probably ask atguys support, its
probably in your order history somewhere.

I have always kept things backed up but you can ask atguys for
your download info and keys again.

Not sure about the service because it still shows as active
here but that doesn't mean anything it simply means the
software didn't have an issue when it phoned home yet.



On 11/08/2021 7:52 am, Clement Chou wrote:
Woke up this morning to find Code Factory voices asking me to
re-enter my registration or activate a trial... and when I
clicked try just to see what happens it says there was an
issue activating my license and to make sure I had a working
internet connection. Anyone know what the deal with this is?
Also seem to have somehow misplaced my registration info, so
need to figure out how to find it. thanks.





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