Hello everyone,

Today, for me, and for the world, is a difficult day. I write this message in recognition of what is happening in Afghanistan, and in Haiti. If you are from either location, or are impacted, please know that this community supports you. Please also know that you can reach out to nvda+owner@nvda.groups.io and I will do all I can to assist you.

We live in a united world. The pain and strife in any country should impact us all, and certainly impacts me. While this group exists to discuss NVDA screen reader, we are an international community of human beings first.

Please look after one another, please consider wearing masks and getting vaccinated, please consider doing what you can for your fellow man. We are all brothers and sisters, all fellow human beings.

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To find out about a free, open-source, and versatile screen reader for Windows, visit nvaccess.org

You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news.

Thank you, and have a great day!

On Aug 15, 2021, at 5:15 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Luke,

The question becomes whether you are trying to merge two separate, existing dictionaries or just snagging one that exists on one side and putting it on the other.

If you would, could you please describe precisely what it is you're trying to port, and in which direction?  It sounded like you were trying to get certain things from the installed to the  portable and vice versa.  
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Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.

         ~Martin Luther King, Jr.

 

Hi Rowen,



This sheet has about 710000 rows. It is a large data set of stock prices.



This is too bad about NVDA. Do you know if an issue has been raised about
this on github?



Pranav

Hi, did you access https://nvda-addons.org? It is working as far as I know...

Regards.

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O 07/08/2021 á(s) 19:57, JinYoun escribiu:

Hi, I just tried clicking on the link and got an error page saying,
check the spelling of the website... and could not go to the website.
Thank you for creating this site.

On 8/6/21, Iván Novegil via groups.io <ivan.novegil@...> wrote:

Dear NVDA users across the world,


I'm pleased to announce to you the availability of the final version of
NVDA-addons.org, the first website created to serve as an international
directory for both official and unofficial NVDA add-ons.

Indeed, this project aims to gather the download links of all possible
add-ons, within logical standards of usability. You won't have to search
in Google anymore to, at the end, find an outdated version uploaded to
Dropbox, or ask through your preferred mailing list until someone is
able to rescue and send you as an attachment that add-on that is
distributed from mailbox to mailbox for years. In NVDA_addons.org, your
favourite add-on may be hosted by Dropbox, but we, both users and
administrators, will make our best to guarantee you its most updated
release. Moreover, you'll be able to know before downloading any add-on
its exact compatibility range and development status.

The platform has been self-developed by us and has the following features:

  * Table of add-ons on the home page: As simple as typing
    NVDA-addons.org in your preferred web browser. Last updated add-ons
    are shown at the top and official add-ons, those published at
    add-ons.nvda-project.org, are flagged as "verified".
  * Filters: You can filter add-on table by add-on's name, summary,
    release channel, minimum NVDA version and last tested NVDA version.
  * Paginator: Browse the add-on table 50 by 50.
  * Dedicated page for each add-on: See its author, website, description
    and available downloads, with supported NVDA version range for each
    of them.
  * Direct download both from home page and add-on page.
  * Supported by advancedAddonFiles: The directory already contains all
    the add-ons added to the Spanish-speaking NVDA Community website,
    NVDA.es. This is because NVDA-addons.org is only an interface for
    advancedAddonFiles, the application that manages add-on additions
    and updates.
  * Automatic translator in all pages, powered by Google.
  * top 10 downloaded add-ons: All pages include a widget showing the 10
    most downloaded add-on releases along with their last tested NVDA
    version.
  * Newsletter: With our newsletter, you'll get a digest of updated and
    added add-ons each week, and also special notices and information
    about review requests. Subscribe by sending a blank message to
    news+subscribe@.... This is also displayed as a widget
    in all pages.
  * Donate: We'd prefer not to ask for donations, but the
    Spanish-speaking NVDA Community Association, stablished in Spain as
    a legal nonprofit, survives thanks to them. Maintaining
    NVDA-addons.org is only one of our initiatives. You can donate
    through PayPal, credit/debit card and GitHub Sponsors, using the
    widget at the bottom of each page.
  * Direct contact: We are human and willing to help. Send us your
    thoughts, questions and suggestions to admin@....

How can you collaborate?

 1. Adding new add-ons: You can submit a review request for one add-on
    that is not registered. It doesn't matter if you are its author or
    not. Once we've verified it doesn't contain spam, it'll be published
    to receive public comments regarding add-on usability and security.
    In absence of them, or after they've been resolved, the add-on will
    be added to the database. If you've specified your email, you'll be
    given direct access to update that add-on. You can also submit a
    review request for already registered add-ons to discuss usability
    or security issues.
 2. Letting us know of add-on updates: If you find an outdated add-on in
    our database, don't hesitate to reach us at admin@...
    with all the information you have about the new version. We'll happy
    to publish that new version, provieded that it's from the same
    author or we have reasonable evidences of abandonment from that
    maintainer and a new one continues the development.

What happens if you have an interested friend who doesn't know English?
That's, in fact, the idea behind the translate widget. Just choose your
native language and enjoy. We know that no translation can match a human
translation, but this is our easiest and simplest solution to have
NVDA-addons.org internationalized. If you want to export our catalog to
your local NVDA website, don't forget that it's available in JSON format
at https://nvda-addons.org/files/get.php?addonslist

On the other hand, don't worry to write us a message in another
language. We'll make our best to reply you.

What is coming next? We're now announcing the first version of the
website but can't wait to think about the future. Héctor Benítez has
developed an add-ons store prototype for NVDA-addons.org, which will be
enhanced until it gets to a stable version that we all can use to review
the catalog and download the add-ons we want from NVDA directly. You can
download the prototype, in spanish, from:
https://nvda-addons.org/files/get.php?file=tienda


I really hope this new tool is useful for you and every NVDA user you
know. If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask.

Best regards.

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Good day everyone. I recently did a video explaining configuration profiles in NVDA and how to create them and much more. You can check it out here :  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dG4ffZuCkIo&t=6s  

Hello,

A direct download for MathPlayer is
"https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdownloads.wiris.com%2Fmathplayer%2FMathPlayerSetup.exe&;data=04%7C01%7C%7C8f72bfecd7324ea1019308d9601acce4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637646490505985496%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=o8vHdt490BC6DkmIc%2F5X8hpGDsh31TtSMNNuKEQQtVw%3D&amp;reserved=0".

A manual for MathPlayer can be found at
"https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.wiris.com%2Fen%2Fmathplayer%2Fstart&;data=04%7C01%7C%7C8f72bfecd7324ea1019308d9601acce4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637646490505985496%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=QTBZR%2BMXHjlG4jB262I417mg72hd7eZBhZORm8hjh4c%3D&amp;reserved=0".

I am pasting a letter describing how MathPlayer works. For 64-bit word, you will not see MathPlayer's menus; however, it is still working and is necessary to see math with NVDA. Here is the description of how MathPlayer works.

----
I wrote MathPlayer and for the most part, what people have said is correct. I want to correct a common misunderstanding though. MathPlayer is a 32-bit application and indeed won't run in 64-bit Word. BUT... it doesn't need to run in Word -- it needs to work with NVDA which is a 32 bit application. You lose the ribbon entry in 64-bit Word, but all the other functionality is still there -- speech, braille, and navigation. The reason for this is that the flow of information is:
1. NVDA encounters a MathType object in a Word document.
2. NVDA asks MathType for the MathML corresponding to the internal MathType representation. This is why you need MathType.
3. NVDA calls MathPlayer with the MathML to get the speech, braille, etc.

This last step does not involve Word. A similar procedure happens in a browser except that step '2' is "NVDA queries the DOM to get the MathML". Most people use a 64-bit browser and MathPlayer works fine with 64-bit browsers.

Sadly WIRIS, the company that bought Design Science, has decided they don't want to continue with MathPlayer despite my offer to do updates for free. Because of this, earlier this year I started on a MathPlayer replacement that I call MathCAT: Math Capable Assistive Technology. It is open source. It implements most of ClearSpeak at the moment, but still has a few months to go before it is ready for real use. I have done a proof of concept connection with NVDA so I know it will work with NVDA. I also spoke with the ORCA (the Linux screen reader) developer and she is interested in incorporating MathCAT there -- so some good news to the few of you who use Linux.

When MathCAT is ready for beta testing, I will reach out to this mailing list and ask for testers. I'll also need people to help with translations to other languages. MathCAT's external format for speech rules (which are user changeable) differs from MathPlayer. It think they are more powerful, easier to read, and easier modify. Because of the difference, converting the 14 different language translations is very error-prone... and I have no way to know if the speech that gets generated is correct.

Bottom line: stay tuned for an open source replacement to MathPlayer that I hope others will contribute to.

Neil Soiffer
Neil Soiffer <soiffer@...>



Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail: ljmaher03@...

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Isige
Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2021 11:30 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and math.

So I finally decided to look into NVDA and math. Of course you need Math Player. But if you go to the download page in the user manual, you get taken to Math Type, which appears to be about writing equations. If you go to the Math Player support page found here:


https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dessci.com%2Fen%2Fsupport%2Fmathplayer%2F&;data=04%7C01%7C%7C8f72bfecd7324ea1019308d9601acce4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637646490505985496%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=3LCjtR%2FIIaGegmIDIkSJN0GukCnHlhhJHYJo6rwUV2o%3D&amp;reserved=0


And go to their download link here:


https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dessci.com%2Fen%2Fproducts%2Fmathplayer%2Fdownload.htm&;data=04%7C01%7C%7C8f72bfecd7324ea1019308d9601acce4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637646490505985496%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=7QxT6cLXaDzuR29YKBT%2Ft0BVHFzUQGKi3dDNoGD48kQ%3D&amp;reserved=0


you also see Math Type downloads, but nothing about Math Player, unless I'm just missing something. Can you still get this thing and read math with NVDA? I hope so.

Hello,

A direct download for MathPlayer is
"https://downloads.wiris.com/mathplayer/MathPlayerSetup.exe".

A manual for MathPlayer can be found at
"https://docs.wiris.com/en/mathplayer/start".

I am pasting a letter describing how MathPlayer works. For 64-bit word, you will not see MathPlayer's menus; however, it is still working and is necessary to see math with NVDA. Here is the description of how MathPlayer works.

----
I wrote MathPlayer and for the most part, what people have said is correct. I want to correct a common misunderstanding though. MathPlayer is a 32-bit application and indeed won't run in 64-bit Word. BUT... it doesn't need to run in Word -- it needs to work with NVDA which is a 32 bit application. You lose the ribbon entry in 64-bit Word, but all the other functionality is still there -- speech, braille, and navigation. The reason for this is that the flow of information is:
1. NVDA encounters a MathType object in a Word document.
2. NVDA asks MathType for the MathML corresponding to the internal MathType representation. This is why you need MathType.
3. NVDA calls MathPlayer with the MathML to get the speech, braille, etc.

This last step does not involve Word. A similar procedure happens in a browser except that step '2' is "NVDA queries the DOM to get the MathML". Most people use a 64-bit browser and MathPlayer works fine with 64-bit browsers.

Sadly WIRIS, the company that bought Design Science, has decided they don't want to continue with MathPlayer despite my offer to do updates for free. Because of this, earlier this year I started on a MathPlayer replacement that I call MathCAT: Math Capable Assistive Technology. It is open source. It implements most of ClearSpeak at the moment, but still has a few months to go before it is ready for real use. I have done a proof of concept connection with NVDA so I know it will work with NVDA. I also spoke with the ORCA (the Linux screen reader) developer and she is interested in incorporating MathCAT there -- so some good news to the few of you who use Linux.

When MathCAT is ready for beta testing, I will reach out to this mailing list and ask for testers. I'll also need people to help with translations to other languages. MathCAT's external format for speech rules (which are user changeable) differs from MathPlayer. It think they are more powerful, easier to read, and easier modify. Because of the difference, converting the 14 different language translations is very error-prone... and I have no way to know if the speech that gets generated is correct.

Bottom line: stay tuned for an open source replacement to MathPlayer that I hope others will contribute to.

Neil Soiffer
Neil Soiffer <soiffer@...>



Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail: ljmaher03@...

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Isige
Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2021 11:30 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and math.

So I finally decided to look into NVDA and math. Of course you need Math Player. But if you go to the download page in the user manual, you get taken to Math Type, which appears to be about writing equations. If you go to the Math Player support page found here:


https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dessci.com%2Fen%2Fsupport%2Fmathplayer%2F&;data=04%7C01%7C%7Cdd3800c8019c429dc8e408d96009de1a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637646417756824784%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=4SHIRcur76d%2Fpqdn2feEjFrxZpkLpjJR1Tdh2iQ1YfQ%3D&amp;reserved=0


And go to their download link here:


https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dessci.com%2Fen%2Fproducts%2Fmathplayer%2Fdownload.htm&;data=04%7C01%7C%7Cdd3800c8019c429dc8e408d96009de1a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637646417756824784%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=LHdJzIN%2FPX%2BXK3p%2BZMrcwOb1%2BTY9X%2BuqaQtnIXnW32A%3D&amp;reserved=0


you also see Math Type downloads, but nothing about Math Player, unless I'm just missing something. Can you still get this thing and read math with NVDA? I hope so.

On Aug 15, 2021, at 10:16 AM, Giles Turnbull <giles.turnbull@...> wrote:

because I use two laptop computers and 1 tablet every day, I have three NVDA installations. If I've added a new entry to a speech dictionary on one laptop, then I find the easiest way to update the other laptop and tablet's dictionary is to find the relevant .dic file and copy it over to the other computers. Since Dropbox is installed on each of the devices, I paste the .dic file somewhere on DropBox and then copy it into the relevant location on the device.

The dictionary files are in the user folder (I have a shortcut on my desktop to Giles, automatically created by Windows on each device). I go into that and then into the App Data folder, then Roaming, then NVDA and finally the speechDicts folder.

The default dic file is titled default.dic and that is where you will probably have most of your new dictionary entries. Otherwise there is a folder called voiceDicts in which are folders for each synth where you have created a voice dictionary ... I have a folder for SAPI5 in which there are .dic files for Hazel and Zira, and an folder for espeak, which is empty because I've not created any custom dictionaries since I rarely use an espeak voice.

I find it far faster to do the copying and pasting method rather than creating a brand new portable copy just to copy a couple of dictionary files.

I am not certain whether this is necessary, but I also save configuration to make sure the new dictionary files aren't deleted when I shut down NVDA (I have learned better, thanks to advice in this group, not to save settings on exit in case I make a change that proves hard to reverse without sight).

Giles