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Re: accessible uninstaller that works with NVDA

Jarek.Krcmar
 

Hi Betina,


I would like recomend to you Geek uninstaller. It's portable and accessible very well. You can use it with Nvda.

Jarek

Dne 17.08.2021 v 6:59 betina vega napsal(a):

Hello:

Thank you for allowing me to join this group.
My name is Betina, and I am a piano teacher living in the United States.
i have a question regarding program uninstallers.
Would any of you have a recommendation for an accessible program uninstaller?
Thank you for your time.

Sincerely,
Betina vega






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Re: Strange say-all phenomenon

Christopher Bartlett
 

Hi Quentin.  As it happens, I have a word profile with a different voice set up than the general default.  I read In Process and was reminded that there is a say all profile, but I don't remember how to get to it.

CWB


On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 1:10 AM Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
The other possibility could be have you setup a configuration profile for Word, or any programs?  You can change the voice or the whole synthesizer in different programs if you so desire - I wrote about it in this week's In-Process as it happens: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/in-process-19th-august-2021/#Profiles

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 12:24 AM <darkmad88@...> wrote:
 Hello, Christopher!
I think, it may be caused by automatic language switching functionality of NVDA. Possibly, NVDA tries to use system default voice  for reading  a Word document in "Say all" mode. You can try to turn of automatic language switching in NVDA speech settings, or set default Windows voice same as you use as NVDA default voice.



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I'm back

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi everyone,

I don't always post about my comings and goings - but I don't always take a couple of weeks off either - I was out of the office for a couple of weeks, dealing with a family emergency (all good now, just had to get my elderly parents sorted in a nursing home and organise selling the house etc).

I've caught up on the group now, and replied to a few messages today - but if you've posted something you wanted me to read (or forward on to others at NV Access) and I haven't replied, please do feel free to forward it to me offlist to make sure I see it!

Hope everyone is well and looking after each other!

Kind regards

Quentin.

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Re: Strange say-all phenomenon

Quentin Christensen
 

The other possibility could be have you setup a configuration profile for Word, or any programs?  You can change the voice or the whole synthesizer in different programs if you so desire - I wrote about it in this week's In-Process as it happens: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/in-process-19th-august-2021/#Profiles

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 12:24 AM <darkmad88@...> wrote:
 Hello, Christopher!
I think, it may be caused by automatic language switching functionality of NVDA. Possibly, NVDA tries to use system default voice  for reading  a Word document in "Say all" mode. You can try to turn of automatic language switching in NVDA speech settings, or set default Windows voice same as you use as NVDA default voice.



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Re: Code Factry’s Eloquence spells space, and others instead of

Quentin Christensen
 

At the bottom of the Code Factory Eloquence page there are several options for reporting:

- A link to their helpdesk: http://www.codefactory.cat/helpdesk/
- A link to their contact us page, which has a form and an email address: https://codefactoryglobal.com/contact-us/

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 5:32 AM Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:
Yep I have.  It drives me absolutely nuts. Who can we report this to? Also I can't find a way to speed up the spell voice as well, is this yet another bug?

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To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Code Factry’s Eloquence spells space, and others instead of

Have anyone of you guys noticed that Eloquence, contained witin the Code Factory’s NVDA combo, for spaces, dashes and others, instead of stating them by name, it spells them out? Not annoying, but nevertheless I wish they’d fix this ittle issue.

Gera
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Re: Displaying Colors In Braille

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Harmony,

Because of the limited space on Braille displays, NVDA doesn't report everything in Braille which is read aloud.  If you'd like formatting information displayed on the Braille display, it might be worth writing up an issue for it on our tracker at: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 6:36 AM H l <harmonyln7@...> wrote:

Hey everyone,

 

Ive checked the box to announce color in the document presentation bit of preferences dialog, but for some reason they don’t show in braille. Does anyone know why or how to fix this?

 

Thanks in advance,

Harmony.



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Re: NVDA Is Not Reading Cell Contents With Excel online and Box

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Martin,

I hadn't heard of Box for Office previously.  I wonder if it is an update to Box or an update to Firefox which has caused the issue.  Did you say Chrome is working ok except it reads blank before each cell?

I haven't really got a suggestion offhand except have you written to Box to advise them of the problem?

Quentin.

On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 8:40 PM Martin O'Sullivan <osumartin@...> wrote:

I use Box and access shared excel files online.

 

Up until last week it worked slowly, but it was possible to navigate the spread sheet.

 

However now NVDA  will not read the sell contents.

 

Here is the output from  NVDA Please note that the filename has been changed to filename, as the file name is confidential.

Start of output from NVDA

filename.xlsx on Box for Office Online - powered by Box  busy

frame    about:blank

application

main landmark

grid  edit  blank

alert  CSM Metrics Draft V4.xlsx . Excel . Editing View . 19 worksheets . Current worksheet is Martin . Press Alt Shift A for accessibility help .

label

CSM Metrics Draft V4.xlsx . Excel . Editing View . 19 worksheets . Current worksheet is Martin . Press Alt Shift A for accessibility help . 

alert  CSM Metrics Draft V4.xlsx . Excel . Editing View . 19 worksheets . Current worksheet is Martin . Press Alt Shift A for accessibility help .

YES . Martin . "E" 10 . Data validation Press Alt+Down to Expand The Data Validation Options .

YES . Martin . "E" 10 . Data validation Press Alt+Down to Expand The Data Validation Options .  label

End of output from NVDA

 

Please note that it red out the contents of the sell which   the focus happened to be in when the spread sheet opened

 

When I arrow around the spread sheet, NVDA says "main landmark" It says this only once, and then there is no speech output.

 

It doesn’t even read out the sell references.

 

I can press F2 and  arrow about in the sell, and if there is content in there, then it will read it out.

 

I have tried google chrome, and it can read the sells  however it says blank and then reads out the content in the sell.

 

NVDA Version: 2021.1

Firefox version 90.0.2 (64-bit)   

Google chrome version 92.0.4515.131 (Official Build) (64-bit)

Version of excel  just says Excel for the web



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Re: keyboard separate voice, idea?

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Curtis,

Late replying, but it doesn't look like anyone has.  I don't specifically have an answer for you, but the main thing I'd suggest is adding the request as an issue on our issue tracker: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues - I'm not sure if anyone else has requested it before, but if they have that's where it should be as well.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Sun, Aug 1, 2021 at 6:17 AM Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:
What if we wish a completely different voice for keyboard, or especially
the speed? I became use to being able to adjust my keyboard voice many
times faster than my reading speed. In my case, hearing the letters from
the keyboard voice reassures me of error-less input, and the faster the
voice the better I can type and faster I can too. :)
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Re: Strange say-all phenomenon

darkmad88@...
 

 Hello, Christopher!
I think, it may be caused by automatic language switching functionality of NVDA. Possibly, NVDA tries to use system default voice  for reading  a Word document in "Say all" mode. You can try to turn of automatic language switching in NVDA speech settings, or set default Windows voice same as you use as NVDA default voice.


Strange say-all phenomenon

Christopher Bartlett
 

Running NVDA 2021.1 and using the Onecore voices.  In some programs, (Microsoft Word is the most recent example I've come across,) say all is using a different voice than the one I've selected for the application-specific profile.  I've gone into settings and verified that I have the voice set properly.  What's weird is that NVDA is using Microsoft David, a voice I have never used for anything because I don't like it.  If I scroll through the document manually, the correct voice happens.
I've also experienced this problem in Qread,  Is there some way to have a separate say all voice that I've forgotten about?  I looked through the help yesterday, and couldn't find anything.  What's going on here?

Christopher BArtlett


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In-Process 19th August

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi everyone,

This week's In-Process is out, featuring news on NVDA 2021.2, LibLouis and eSpeak-NG, and a feature on creating application specific profiles, so you can have NVDA behave differently in Word compared to Chrome or Notepad++! Read all the info here: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/in-process-19th-august-2021/

PS: I've been out and about for a couple of weeks, I haven't yet caught up on all my emails or the group here, so please be patient if you've written to me recently and I haven't responded!

Kind regards

Quentin.

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A new tutorial which explores and demonstrates the Input Gestures Dialog in NVDA is out

TheeQuinn Public
 

Good day everyone. I have just posted a new video. This video explains what the input gestures dialog in NVDA has to offer , and also how to use it. This includes how to create the different types of gestures, and how to remove them if you wish to. Enjoy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2rrKd-y9_8&t=24s


Re: Here is A Tutorial on Configuration Profiles in NVDA

TheeQuinn Public
 

Hello there. That would be great actually. Yu can email me at theequinnpublic@... and we can talk about it more.


Re: accessible uninstaller that works with NVDA

Hope Williamson
 

Yes everyone hates you. Just kidding, I can solve a hundred audio CAPTCHAs in my sleep.

On 8/17/2021 9:48 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 11:53 AM, Jackie wrote:
The problem w/this particular program, all, is that the uninstaller
has a frickin captcha. Aint that special!
-
Jackie,

Think about what Webroot actually is and it's no surprise that a Captcha is used by the uninstaller.  It's just another way to prevent "bot uninstallation" without human intervention.  It's a security measure to keep a security program from being nefariously uninstalled by automated means.

Also, so you can hate me, I am so over complaints about modern Captchas, almost all of which do offer an accessible alternative to their solution.  They were horrible accessibility roadblocks, and for those rare sites or products still using "Early Generation" captchas, they still are.  But I have solved captchas, eyes closed, with audio challenges on more than one occasion, and that's the most common alternative.

Captchas of most modern sorts should be accessible.  They will pose challenges for those who are deaf-blind or who have significant hearing impairment if it cannot be addressed via hearing aids, but there are limits to anything that is intended to force human intervention of some sort.
 
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Re: Q-Installer?

tim
 

no, and that is not part of windows. Done to many installs not to notice that in task tray or even program list.

That most of come from manufacture or who ever setup that computer.



On 8/17/2021 9:11 PM, Chris Smart wrote:

Has anybody run across a utility that lives in the System Tray called Q-Installer?

It appears to be an update manager for my motherboard, but it doesn’t seem too accessible with NVDA. Do any of you have tips or tricks for using it?

 

Thanks

 

Chris

 


Re: Q-Installer?

Jackie
 

Well, this will be my last post on the topic because it's not on
topic, but, having been a victim of Asus's compromised servers (see
https://thehackernews.com/2019/03/asus-computer-hacking.html among
others), I can tell you it makes a cat on a hot tin roof appear sedate
compared to the way I feel about it all.

On 8/17/21, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@gmail.com> wrote:
I have not had any of this but I could see where it would be a good idea
and also why not.

I have an old asus h series board.

It does come with a lot of extra software, but I only load the drivers.

However I have noticed this with some of my mice, logitech, microsoft,
etc and cameras and other hardware like my printers and the like.

You can turn some of this off but I have never had a bad experience with
it and in fact like that my hardware is loading its own drivers rather
than letting windows use generic drivers.

I do think there should be more control of this stuff though as malware
users could write straight to the bios though a lot of this stuff can be
secured against.

Its another thing to check when setting up for the first time though.

I have recently setup an old hp server for one of my uncles which was
set to start and shut down at certain times as well as load a load of
extras as it was set for a business.

When it was sold x lease no one thought to clear the bios and eufi so I
needed a friend who I had about to fix that but its ok now.

So obviously I will have to be carefull and get people to go through
eufi every time I set things up.

I don't want extra junk being installed, I want control of what is loaded.

Now if there is a way to control within the os what is loaded, and how
its kept updated maybe I'd be happy with that.


On 18/08/2021 3:05 pm, Jackie wrote:
The whole purpose of the utility is so folks can't access it. It's
basically a motherboard rootkit.

On 8/17/21, Jackie McBride <abletec@gmail.com> wrote:
Chris S, check out:
https://www.techpowerup.com/248827/asus-z390-motherboards-automatically-push-software-into-your-windows-installation?cp=3

On 8/17/21, Chris Smart <ve3rwj@winsystem.org> wrote:
Thanks, that was a helpful response. LOL







From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bobby
Sent: August 17, 2021 9:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Q-Installer?



never hurd of it

On 8/17/2021 9:11 PM, Chris Smart wrote:

Has anybody run across a utility that lives in the System Tray called
Q-Installer?

It appears to be an update manager for my motherboard, but it doesn’t
seem
too accessible with NVDA. Do any of you have tips or tricks for using
it?



Thanks



Chris










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Re: Q-Installer?

 

I have not had any of this but I could see where it would be a good idea and also why not.

I have an old asus h series board.

It does come with a lot of extra software, but I only load the drivers.

However I have noticed this with some of my mice, logitech, microsoft, etc and cameras and other hardware like my printers and the like.

You can turn some of this off but I have never had a bad experience with it and in fact like that my hardware is loading its own drivers rather than letting windows use generic drivers.

I do think there should be more control of this stuff though as malware users could write straight to the bios though a lot of this stuff can be secured against.

Its another thing to check when setting up for the first time though.

I have recently setup an old hp server for one of my uncles which was set to start and shut down at certain times as well as load a load of extras as it was set for a business.

When it was sold x lease no one thought to clear the bios and eufi so I needed a friend who I had about to fix that but its ok now.

So obviously I will have to be carefull and get people to go through eufi every time I set things up.

I don't want extra junk being installed, I want control of what is loaded.

Now if there is a way to control within the os what is loaded, and how its kept updated maybe I'd be happy with that.

On 18/08/2021 3:05 pm, Jackie wrote:
The whole purpose of the utility is so folks can't access it. It's
basically a motherboard rootkit.

On 8/17/21, Jackie McBride <abletec@gmail.com> wrote:
Chris S, check out:
https://www.techpowerup.com/248827/asus-z390-motherboards-automatically-push-software-into-your-windows-installation?cp=3

On 8/17/21, Chris Smart <ve3rwj@winsystem.org> wrote:
Thanks, that was a helpful response. LOL







From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bobby
Sent: August 17, 2021 9:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Q-Installer?



never hurd of it

On 8/17/2021 9:11 PM, Chris Smart wrote:

Has anybody run across a utility that lives in the System Tray called
Q-Installer?

It appears to be an update manager for my motherboard, but it doesn’t
seem
too accessible with NVDA. Do any of you have tips or tricks for using it?



Thanks



Chris










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Re: Q-Installer?

Jackie
 

The whole purpose of the utility is so folks can't access it. It's
basically a motherboard rootkit.

On 8/17/21, Jackie McBride <abletec@gmail.com> wrote:
Chris S, check out:
https://www.techpowerup.com/248827/asus-z390-motherboards-automatically-push-software-into-your-windows-installation?cp=3

On 8/17/21, Chris Smart <ve3rwj@winsystem.org> wrote:
Thanks, that was a helpful response. LOL







From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bobby
Sent: August 17, 2021 9:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Q-Installer?



never hurd of it

On 8/17/2021 9:11 PM, Chris Smart wrote:

Has anybody run across a utility that lives in the System Tray called
Q-Installer?

It appears to be an update manager for my motherboard, but it doesn’t
seem
too accessible with NVDA. Do any of you have tips or tricks for using it?



Thanks



Chris











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Re: Q-Installer?

Jackie
 

On 8/17/21, Chris Smart <ve3rwj@winsystem.org> wrote:
Thanks, that was a helpful response. LOL







From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bobby
Sent: August 17, 2021 9:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Q-Installer?



never hurd of it

On 8/17/2021 9:11 PM, Chris Smart wrote:

Has anybody run across a utility that lives in the System Tray called
Q-Installer?

It appears to be an update manager for my motherboard, but it doesn’t seem
too accessible with NVDA. Do any of you have tips or tricks for using it?



Thanks



Chris










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Re: Q-Installer?

William James
 

I would try using Narrator to gain access to this utility.  Sometimes, NVDA appears to have frozen.  No object navigation, nothing else works.


Pro Max

On Aug 17, 2021, at 9:38 PM, Chris Smart <ve3rwj@...> wrote:



Thanks, that was a helpful response. LOL

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bobby
Sent: August 17, 2021 9:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Q-Installer?

 

never hurd of it

On 8/17/2021 9:11 PM, Chris Smart wrote:

Has anybody run across a utility that lives in the System Tray called Q-Installer?

It appears to be an update manager for my motherboard, but it doesn’t seem too accessible with NVDA. Do any of you have tips or tricks for using it?

 

Thanks

 

Chris

 

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