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Re: NVDA menu not reading with NVDA+N

Chris
 

Try restarting the computer, is one of the first things to try in this type of scenario

 

 

 

From: Janet Brandly
Sent: 27 August 2021 17:12
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA menu not reading with NVDA+N

 

Good morning,

 

As I mentioned above, the NVDA menus are not reading when I use the NVDA+N command. I tried exiting and restarting nVDA, but they still don’t read. My computer has been in sleep mode for a few days, and I have been switching back and forth  between NVDA and JAWS. Maybe that has something to do with it? I’m running Windows 10 on an Asus laptop, nothing fancy. Any input will be appreciated.

 

Thanks,

 

Janet

 


Re: NVDA menu not reading with NVDA+N

 

On Fri, Aug 27, 2021 at 12:31 PM, Gene wrote:
The first thing to do when odd problems like this occur is to reboot.
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Gene is, of course, absolutely correct here and echoes what Jackie and I have already mentioned.

However, in the age of Fast Startup, if you have not disabled it, you must use the Restart option, not the Shutdown option, from the power menu to get the machine to reload Windows from disk when it powers back up.  Using Shutdown if Fast Startup is enabled is not a reboot in the conventional sense - it's a special hibernate and wake from that hibernation when powered up again.
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Re: NVDA menu not reading with NVDA+N

 

I'm going to retract the "sighted help required" for running the COM registration fixing tool with a silent NVDA main menu, at least if you trust your own typing skills.  The command sequence for this is:

NVDA + N, T, R, Enter

And that Enter is necessary to kick it off.  It remains an open question as to whether the dialog would talk for that, too.  If it doesn't, then hitting Enter again activates the default Yes button for the question, "Do you want to run . . .?"  I'd hope at that point, when the UAC dialog pops up you'll have speech, but if not hitting ALT + Y will allow the COM Registration Fixing Tool to run.  It does it's thing and then, a final dialog comes up saying that the COM registration fixing tool is complete, with the only button being the OK button.  If there's still no speech by that time, hit Enter again.  So, the short version, after the above command sequence, for as long as silence persists, the following would need to be hit, in order, with a slight pause after each is hit:

Enter   (Activates Yes button for NVDA Com Registration Fixing Tool question)
ALT + Y  (Activates Yes button for Windows UAC for tool to run)
Enter (OK button for tool saying it's done)
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Re: NVDA menu not reading with NVDA+N

Gene
 

I don’t know if either thing could haved caused or contributed to the problem.  The first thing to do when odd problems like this occur is to reboot.
Gene

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Subject: [nvda] NVDA menu not reading with NVDA+N
 

Good morning,

 

As I mentioned above, the NVDA menus are not reading when I use the NVDA+N command. I tried exiting and restarting nVDA, but they still don’t read. My computer has been in sleep mode for a few days, and I have been switching back and forth  between NVDA and JAWS. Maybe that has something to do with it? I’m running Windows 10 on an Asus laptop, nothing fancy. Any input will be appreciated.

 

Thanks,

 

Janet


Zoom app verbosity is too aggressive. Any way to adjust?

Luke Robinett
 

I have gone through all the zoom accessibility settings but it’s basically a case of on or off. My challenge is that zoom screen reader output seems to be tagged as alert, meaning it’s very pervasive and interrupts anything you are doing even when the app isn’t in focus. Is there a way to remedy this, perhaps with some third-party add-on. Should I place a feature request? To be clear, I appreciate that zoom is making such an effort to be accessible, but the way they’ve done it gets very overwhelming, at least for me. Thanks


Re: NVDA menu not reading with NVDA+N

 

1. Have you tried Restarting (and I mean that literally, as in choosing Restart from the power menu)?  Does the behavior persist after doing that?

If it persists, then:

2. Run the COM Registry Fixing Tool from NVDA’s Tools Menu to see if that fixes your issue.  (Sighted help will be required unless you've memorized how to get to this from a silent NVDA menu).

If it persists, then:

3. Restart NVDA with Add-Ons disabled to see if your issue goes away.  If it does, one of the add-ons you use is the culprit.  You can restart NVDA with Add-Ons disabled via the NVDA exit dialog, which gives this as one of the options in the What would you like to do? Dropdown.  If your issue disappears, you will need to determine which Add-On is causing it, and the technique for doing this is beyond the scope of the current set of steps.

If none of the above works, I'd suggest an uninstall and reinstall of NVDA itself.

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Re: NVDA menu not reading with NVDA+N

Jackie
 

Please try restarting the computer and see if that helps?

On 8/27/21, Janet Brandly <jbrandly@shaw.ca> wrote:
Good morning,

As I mentioned above, the NVDA menus are not reading when I use the NVDA+N
command. I tried exiting and restarting nVDA, but they still don't read. My
computer has been in sleep mode for a few days, and I have been switching
back and forth between NVDA and JAWS. Maybe that has something to do with
it? I'm running Windows 10 on an Asus laptop, nothing fancy. Any input will
be appreciated.

Thanks,

Janet





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NVDA menu not reading with NVDA+N

Janet Brandly
 

Good morning,

 

As I mentioned above, the NVDA menus are not reading when I use the NVDA+N command. I tried exiting and restarting nVDA, but they still don’t read. My computer has been in sleep mode for a few days, and I have been switching back and forth  between NVDA and JAWS. Maybe that has something to do with it? I’m running Windows 10 on an Asus laptop, nothing fancy. Any input will be appreciated.

 

Thanks,

 

Janet


Windows App Essentials 21.09 #addonrelease

 

Hello all,

Windows App Essentials 21.09 (stable channel) is now available. If you happen to be using Add-on Updater, an update notification should be going out about now, informing you that one or more add-on updates are available. Key highlights of version 21.09 include improved support for Windows 11 and localization updates.

 

Key changes:

* On systems running Windows Server releases such as Server 2022, a warning dialog will be presented when installing the add-on as most modern apps such as Microsoft Store are not present in server systems, thereby limiting add-on features.

* When using Add-on Updater to update this add-on on unsupported Windows releases, the warning dialog will resemble the one shown when installing the add-on manually by being specific about minimum supported Windows release.

* Calculator: added support for redesigned Calculator (version 10.2109) included in Windows 11 (preview).

* Calculator: removed memory and history item workaround in Calculator 10.2109 as these items have labels.

* Modern keyboard: in Windows 11, it is no longer required to press the Escape key twice to close combined emoji panel and clipboard history.

 

IMPORTANT: to remind you that Windows 11 is in preview, if you try to install Windows App Essentials 21.09 on Windows 11, a warning dialog will be presented. This warning dialog will be gone as early as October.

Speaking of October, the next version of Windows App Essentials add-on is under way. Due to changes introduced in NVDA 2021.2, the add-on will require the upcoming NVDA version. Because of this, the upcoming add-on release is scheduled for early October, and if you would like to use Windows 11, you need to wait a while – NVDA 2021.2 supports Windows 11 (preliminary at the moment), and so does the next version of Windows App Essentials (21.09 will work, but the next version is better optimized for Windows 11).

Enjoy the new add-on release.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Excel 365: How to use autofill to make list of dates

Ann Byrne
 

The selection tells Excel whether you are filling in a row or a column. If you select a1:a7, it's a column; if you select a1:g1, it's a row.

At 05:01 AM 8/27/2021, you wrote:

Hi

No but maybe there is another keystroke that does, after all it has to use the cell to the left rather than above, so a distinction has to be made. If there is such a keystroke, I don’t know what it is.



Cheers

Chris



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From: <mailto:blindman75@gmail.com>Shaun Oliver
Sent: 27 August 2021 08:22
To: <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Excel 365: How to use autofill to make list of dates



does that same keystroke work if you wish to autofill across cells as well?

On 27/08/2021 3:34 am, Chris Mullins rambled on about the following:

Hi Daniel

Put the cursor in the cell below the cell you want to replicate down the column and press Control+d, then select the cells down the column to the last cell you want to fill and press Control+d again.



Cheers

Chris



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From: <mailto:dgartmann@outlook.com>Daniel Gartmann
Sent: 26 August 2021 15:33
To: <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Excel 365: How to use autofill to make list of dates



Hi,



I am trying to generate a list of work days using the Auto-fill feature under the Home tab, but I can’t figure out how to do this with NVDA / the keyboard.



Has anybody done this?


There are many instructions online about how to do this with the mouse, but I haven't been able to locate one for screen reader / keyboard users.



I am on NVDA 2021.2 beta 1 under Windows10 and Office 365.



Thanks in advance.



Daniel





Re: Excel 365: How to use autofill to make list of dates

Chris Mullins
 

Hi

No but maybe there is another keystroke that does, after all it has to use the cell to the left rather than above, so a distinction has to be made.  If there is such a keystroke, I don’t know what it is.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

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From: Shaun Oliver
Sent: 27 August 2021 08:22
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Excel 365: How to use autofill to make list of dates

 

does that same keystroke work if you wish to autofill across cells as well?

On 27/08/2021 3:34 am, Chris Mullins rambled on about the following:

Hi Daniel

Put the cursor in the cell below the cell you want to replicate down the column and press Control+d, then select the cells down the column to the last cell you want to fill and press Control+d again.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

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From: Daniel Gartmann
Sent: 26 August 2021 15:33
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Excel 365: How to use autofill to make list of dates

 

Hi,

 

I am trying to generate a list of work days using the Auto-fill feature under the Home tab, but I can’t figure out how to do this with NVDA / the keyboard.

 

Has anybody done this?


There are many instructions online about how to do this with the mouse, but I haven't been able to locate one for screen reader / keyboard users.

 

I am on NVDA 2021.2 beta 1 under Windows10 and Office 365.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Daniel

 

 


Re: Excel 365: How to use autofill to make list of dates

Chris Mullins
 

 

Hi Brian

Type a date in cell a1, enter the formula “=A1+1” in cell a2, put cursor in cell a3 and press Control+d.  Hold down the shift key and use the down arrow to highlight all the cells you want to fill, then press Control+d again.    

Cheers

Chris

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From: Brian Vogel
Sent: 26 August 2021 20:28
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Excel 365: How to use autofill to make list of dates

 

On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 02:04 PM, Chris Mullins wrote:

Put the cursor in the cell below the cell you want to replicate down the column and press Control+d,

-
But the initial query is not about replication, but auto-filling.  When I attempt to follow your instructions the CTRL + D results in the single cell above being duplicated in the present cell, but I cannot use the keyboard and down arrow to the last row in which I'd like the cell duplicated and have all in between be filled.

I will repeat, though, that these questions and answers have nothing whatsoever to do with NVDA.  This is really an office accessibility question that's utterly divorced from the screen reader being used.
 
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Re: Excel 365: How to use autofill to make list of dates

Shaun Oliver
 

does that same keystroke work if you wish to autofill across cells as well?

On 27/08/2021 3:34 am, Chris Mullins rambled on about the following:

Hi Daniel

Put the cursor in the cell below the cell you want to replicate down the column and press Control+d, then select the cells down the column to the last cell you want to fill and press Control+d again.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

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From: Daniel Gartmann
Sent: 26 August 2021 15:33
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Excel 365: How to use autofill to make list of dates

 

Hi,

 

I am trying to generate a list of work days using the Auto-fill feature under the Home tab, but I can’t figure out how to do this with NVDA / the keyboard.

 

Has anybody done this?


There are many instructions online about how to do this with the mouse, but I haven't been able to locate one for screen reader / keyboard users.

 

I am on NVDA 2021.2 beta 1 under Windows10 and Office 365.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Daniel

 


Re: Excel 365: How to use autofill to make list of dates

Shaun Oliver
 

does that same keystroke work if you wish to autofill across cells as well?

On 27/08/2021 3:34 am, Chris Mullins rambled on about the following:

Hi Daniel

Put the cursor in the cell below the cell you want to replicate down the column and press Control+d, then select the cells down the column to the last cell you want to fill and press Control+d again.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

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From: Daniel Gartmann
Sent: 26 August 2021 15:33
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Excel 365: How to use autofill to make list of dates

 

Hi,

 

I am trying to generate a list of work days using the Auto-fill feature under the Home tab, but I can’t figure out how to do this with NVDA / the keyboard.

 

Has anybody done this?


There are many instructions online about how to do this with the mouse, but I haven't been able to locate one for screen reader / keyboard users.

 

I am on NVDA 2021.2 beta 1 under Windows10 and Office 365.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Daniel

 


Important notice on Joseph Lee's add-ons: next add-on releases, NVDA version jump

 

Hi all,

The following announcement is applicable if you are using any of my add-ons (Add-on Updater, Control Usage Assistant, Enhanced Touch Gestures, Event Tracker, GoldWave, Resource Monitor, StationPlaylist, Windows App Essentials):

Currently most of my add-ons support NVDA 2020.4. Starting with the next version of Add-on Updater, I will ask you to use newer NVDA releases in order for add-ons to take advantage of features introduced in recent NVDA releases. This is especially true for people wishing to upgrade to Windows 11 once released to the public.

Specifically:

  • Add-on Updater: version 21.09 (next week at the earliest) will require NVDA 2021.1 or later.
  • Control Usage Assistant, Enhanced Touch Gestures, Event Tracker, GoldWave, StationPlaylist: upcoming releases will require NVDA 2021.2 or later. As a result, updates to these add-ons will be released shortly after NVDA 2021.2 is released to everyone.
  • Resource Monitor: the next version (scheduled to be released after NVDA 2021.2 is released) will require NVDA 2021.1 or later.
  • Windows App Essentials: version 21.09 will be the last version to support NVDA 2020.4 and 2021.1. The version after that will require NVDA 2021.2 and will be released shortly after the upcoming NvDA version is released. If you wish to use Windows 11, Windows App Essentials 21.09 or later will provide improved support, but it is the version coming after that which is optimized for Windows 11 (by the way, to use Windows 11, you must use NVDA 2021.2 or later, and support for Windows 11 will improve over time).

The reason for requiring newer NVDA releases is that version 2021.2 introduces several changes that will affect add-ons in a fundamental way. One of these changes is called “control types refactor” where it changes how developers specify control roles and states in add-on source code. As most of my add-ons are affected, I’m asking you to prepare accordingly. Note that the old way of specifying control roles and states will work until next year when the new style will become the default, and add-on developers were notified of this change a while ago.

Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Excel 365: How to use autofill to make list of dates

 

On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 02:04 PM, Chris Mullins wrote:
Put the cursor in the cell below the cell you want to replicate down the column and press Control+d,
-
But the initial query is not about replication, but auto-filling.  When I attempt to follow your instructions the CTRL + D results in the single cell above being duplicated in the present cell, but I cannot use the keyboard and down arrow to the last row in which I'd like the cell duplicated and have all in between be filled.

I will repeat, though, that these questions and answers have nothing whatsoever to do with NVDA.  This is really an office accessibility question that's utterly divorced from the screen reader being used.
 
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Re: Excel 365: How to use autofill to make list of dates

Chris Mullins
 

Hi Daniel

Put the cursor in the cell below the cell you want to replicate down the column and press Control+d, then select the cells down the column to the last cell you want to fill and press Control+d again.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

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From: Daniel Gartmann
Sent: 26 August 2021 15:33
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Excel 365: How to use autofill to make list of dates

 

Hi,

 

I am trying to generate a list of work days using the Auto-fill feature under the Home tab, but I can’t figure out how to do this with NVDA / the keyboard.

 

Has anybody done this?


There are many instructions online about how to do this with the mouse, but I haven't been able to locate one for screen reader / keyboard users.

 

I am on NVDA 2021.2 beta 1 under Windows10 and Office 365.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Daniel

 


Re: Excel 365: How to use autofill to make list of dates

 

This question is really about Excel and the answer is almost certain to be screen reader agnostic.  I'd suggest you consider joining the Microsoft Office Accessibility Discussion Group

Archive:  https://groups.io/g/office-accessibility/topics

Subscribe: office-accessibility+subscribe@groups.io

Post: office-accessibility@groups.io

Unsubscribe: office-accessibility+unsubscribe@groups.io

Group Owner: office-accessibility+owner@groups.io

Help: office-accessibility+help@groups.io


The owner of that group is an Excel expert and there's frequent traffic about using Excel in particular, but other Office suite programs as well.
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Excel 365: How to use autofill to make list of dates

Daniel Gartmann <dgartmann@...>
 

Hi,

 

I am trying to generate a list of work days using the Auto-fill feature under the Home tab, but I can’t figure out how to do this with NVDA / the keyboard.

 

Has anybody done this?


There are many instructions online about how to do this with the mouse, but I haven't been able to locate one for screen reader / keyboard users.

 

I am on NVDA 2021.2 beta 1 under Windows10 and Office 365.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Daniel


Re: Looking for an accessible SDR software

Michel Such
 

Hi Chris,


I already use WebSDRs, in particular this one:

http://websdr.ewi.utwente.nl:8901/


Le 26/08/2021 à 15:56, Chris Smart a écrit :

That is a gross generalization. Michel, I suggest you join blind-hams at groups.io and at least get a fair hearing of your question.

You might still not find one that is accessible, but at least your question will be considered more thoroughly.

 

In the meantime, check out Web SDR, and access receivers remotely from all over:

http://www.websdr.org/

 

73

Chris

VE3RWJ

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of zvonimir stanecic, 9a5dsz
Sent: August 26, 2021 4:25 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Looking for an accessible SDR software

 

Hi,

In the hamradio community, nobody cares about accessibility. Even the hamradio logs are somewhat inaccessible.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michel Such
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2021 10:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Looking for an accessible SDR software

 

Hi all,

 

SDR means Software Defined Receiver.

These software are used to drive a digital radio receiver.

I've tried two of them, SDRSharp and HDSDR, but they do'nt seem to be accessible.

Does anyone know of another one?

 

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