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Speech being interrupted when I pan to the next line on braille display

Jujube
 

Hi everyone, This is a small annoyance I discovered literally just now but I notice that when I pan to the next line on my braille display, NVDA stops reading. I tried using say all but braille display panning interrupts say all. I wonder if there's a configurable setting for that? If not, I understand. Thanks for any help.


Re: A Note of Appreciation on NVDA and Foreign Languages

Jujube
 

Hi Jessica, I'll try my best to help but I unfortunately don't have all the answers.

My Mom taught me Mandarin braille years ago by googling resources online. I honestly don't know what she used since she was so young but doing a google search wouldn't hurt. I'm also not familiar with Mandarin or Japanese DAISY services as I never ever use them.

On Sat, Sep 11, 2021 at 8:14 AM Jessica Glasco <jessicaglasco2015@...> wrote:


jessicaglasco2015@....

On Sep 11, 2021, at 00:39, Clement Chou <chou.clement@...> wrote:

Can confirm as a Chinese speaker as well! Typing works great for the
most part, though choosing candidates in the IME can be a little
wonky, and some synthesizers react oddly to punctuation and the like.
But for the most part, foreign language support in NVDA, in Mandarin
and Japanese which are the languages I primarily use, is fantastic!
Not without its kinks, but certainly more than usable. 
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Hello, I'm Jessica Glasco.  I'm totally blind, and I love NVDA.  I have 2 braille displays.  
I'd love to try and learn Japanese and Chinese braille.  That'll be quite interesting.  
I love  foreign languages of both braille and sign language learn foreign languages of  braille.   
I'll always love NVDA.  
You can feel free to contact me anytime. I was also wondering if there were Chinese Daisy online services I could add or turn on on my Victor Reader Stream new generation. It has wifi capabilities and online services. It's fun to learn.


Re: A Note of Appreciation on NVDA and Foreign Languages

Jessica Glasco
 



jessicaglasco2015@....

On Sep 11, 2021, at 00:39, Clement Chou <chou.clement@...> wrote:

Can confirm as a Chinese speaker as well! Typing works great for the
most part, though choosing candidates in the IME can be a little
wonky, and some synthesizers react oddly to punctuation and the like.
But for the most part, foreign language support in NVDA, in Mandarin
and Japanese which are the languages I primarily use, is fantastic!
Not without its kinks, but certainly more than usable. 
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Hello, I'm Jessica Glasco.  I'm totally blind, and I love NVDA.  I have 2 braille displays.  
I'd love to try and learn Japanese and Chinese braille.  That'll be quite interesting.  
I love  foreign languages of both braille and sign language learn foreign languages of  braille.   
I'll always love NVDA.  
You can feel free to contact me anytime. I was also wondering if there were Chinese Daisy online services I could add or turn on on my Victor Reader Stream new generation. It has wifi capabilities and online services. It's fun to learn.


Re: how to read amazon kindle books with nvda

Michael Micallef at FITA
 

Hi
I guess that under tools in the kindle program there is a text to speech related item, if it isn't available from there you should check the preferences sections under tools menu.

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Hi friends
I opened a book with Amazon kindle. But when I try to read, the narator starts reading. I want to read the book only nvda though. How could I disable the kindle-inbuilt feature of text to speach and use only NVDA? Solution? any help appriciated.


issue with 2021-2 rc1

Don H
 

Still losing the use of the NVDA hot keys with RC1.


Re: how to read amazon kindle books with nvda

Life in Six Dots
 

Hi Aschalew,

CTRL+T will turn off the built-in TTS.

Note that not all books from Amazon support Screen Readers.

Paul

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Subject: [nvda] how to read amazon kindle books with nvda

Hi friends
I opened a book with Amazon kindle. But when I try to read, the
narator starts reading. I want to read the book only nvda though. How
could I disable the kindle-inbuilt feature of text to speach and use
only NVDA? Solution? any help appriciated.


how to read amazon kindle books with nvda

Aschalew Byness
 

Hi friends
I opened a book with Amazon kindle. But when I try to read, the
narator starts reading. I want to read the book only nvda though. How
could I disable the kindle-inbuilt feature of text to speach and use
only NVDA? Solution? any help appriciated.


Re: A Note of Appreciation on NVDA and Foreign Languages

Clement Chou
 

Can confirm as a Chinese speaker as well! Typing works great for the
most part, though choosing candidates in the IME can be a little
wonky, and some synthesizers react oddly to punctuation and the like.
But for the most part, foreign language support in NVDA, in Mandarin
and Japanese which are the languages I primarily use, is fantastic!
Not without its kinks, but certainly more than usable.

On 9/10/21, Jujube <ellaxyu@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi everyone,

I just thought I'd share this with y'all as I'm really ecstatic right now.

Mandarin Chinese is my other language and it is the language spoken in my
household, and I had not thought of trying this till just now but I went
and installed the Chinese simplified language pack in Windows 10, switched
to a Chinese speech synth (thanks synth ring for making this so quick and
easy and Windows OneCore voices because the OneCore Chinese speech synths
are actually decent) and I was able to read the baidu.com website without
issue. Then I went and switched my braille table to Chinese Mandarin grade
1 and when I browsed the baidu site and a Chinese word doc not only was the
speech reading it out flawlessly but it was also displaying flawless
Chinese braille on my display as well. Wow. I had no idea it would work
this well. I have not yet tried to type Chinese characters into a word doc
on anything like that but I have good faith it'll work and the fact that
foreign language support is this good makes me so darn happy.

Anyhow, I just thought I'd send this note of appreciation because now I can
FINALLY work on improving my Mandarin literacy because before this, getting
access to Mandarin material was certainly a struggle, the combo of speech
and braille will really help me improve my Mandarin braille reading, and I
now have way more access to Mandarin documents and websites so now I'm so
happy...






A Note of Appreciation on NVDA and Foreign Languages

Jujube
 

Hi everyone,

I just thought I'd share this with y'all as I'm really ecstatic right now.

Mandarin Chinese is my other language and it is the language spoken in my household, and I had not thought of trying this till just now but I went and installed the Chinese simplified language pack in Windows 10, switched to a Chinese speech synth (thanks synth ring for making this so quick and easy and Windows OneCore voices because the OneCore Chinese speech synths are actually decent) and I was able to read the baidu.com website without issue. Then I went and switched my braille table to Chinese Mandarin grade 1 and when I browsed the baidu site and a Chinese word doc not only was the speech reading it out flawlessly but it was also displaying flawless Chinese braille on my display as well. Wow. I had no idea it would work this well. I have not yet tried to type Chinese characters into a word doc on anything like that but I have good faith it'll work and the fact that foreign language support is this good makes me so darn happy.

Anyhow, I just thought I'd send this note of appreciation because now I can FINALLY work on improving my Mandarin literacy because before this, getting access to Mandarin material was certainly a struggle, the combo of speech and braille will really help me improve my Mandarin braille reading, and I now have way more access to Mandarin documents and websites so now I'm so happy...


Re: Nvda beta - eloquence and vocalizer add on

David Goldfield
 

I've used the Eloquence/Vocalizer addon with beta and RC builds with no difficulties. Of course, this assumes that you're not working with a beta which breaks compatibility with the addon.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019
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Sent: Friday, September 10, 2021 9:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Nvda beta - eloquence and vocalizer add on

hello all

During the beta cycle of a new nvda release, can the eloquence and vocalizer addon be used?

If not, is there a way, to separat the: stable release to the: beta release? So that it doesn't mess up the licensing system of the add-on.


Re: jaws cursor in nvda

Dave Grossoehme
 

Thank you for the correction here Bryan.  I wasn't sure how far this went back as far as the change of name.

Dave


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Re: jaws cursor in nvda

 

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Re: jaws cursor in nvda

Dave Grossoehme
 

|Good Morning Howard:  This information was given by Joseph in more detail on winaccess@winaccess.groups.com.  I would referr this person there or the nvda email list at nvda@nvda.groups.com

Dave

On 9/5/2021 12:51 PM, Howard Traxler wrote:
Gene, in addition, you might include that, using the numpad in "desktop keyboared--and maybe more) pressing the read key (line, word, charactor) one more time will spell the entire target phonetically using (I hope) international phoenetics).
Howard

On 9/5/2021 9:30 AM, dennis huckle wrote:

Many thanks Jean,

Exactly what I wanted.

Kind regards,

Dennis huckle.

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Gene
*Sent:* 05 September 2021 14:50
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*Subject:* Re: [nvda] jaws cursor in nvda

You ask for a command to review the whole screen like the JAWS cursor.  Your question is not clear.  It could mean a command like control b that reads the window you are in in JAWS but that is not like the JAWS cursor.  it simply recites everything on the screen. It appears to me that you mean, is there a command to turn on something like the JAWS cursor in NVDA.

I wrote the following recently to discuss this question and I’m reproducing it here.

For screen review,, which I’ll discuss here, the thing to know is that it is similar to the JAWS cursor, but the movement keys are different.

To enter screen review, and these commands are for the default desktop layout, Use the command num;pad insert numpad 7.  At times, there is a review mode called document review that is available.  It may be available if you are working in a Word processor.  I’m not sure if it is ever available otherwise.  If you issue numpad insert numpad f7, you will hear announced what mode you are in.  If you are now in screen review mode, you will hear screen review announced.  If you try to move further, you will hear no next review mode. You usually want to be in object review and you should return to it after you work in screen review.  The command to do so is numpad insert numpad 1.  You will hear object review announced. If you try to move further, you will hear no previous review mode.  If document review is available, you will hear that as one of the options as you move.  For example, if you are in object review mode and you use numpad f7, you will hear document review.  Using the command again, you will hear screen review.  Moving back, numpad insert numpad 1, you will hear the document review, then object review.

You can play with document review.  I have hardly used it.  It limits your movement to the document window, so you won’t be in any part of the screen other than that at the top or bottom of the screen.

The movement commands in screen review are as follows:

Numpad 7.  move back one line.

Numpad 8, read current line.

Numpad 9, move down one line.

Numpad 4, move back one word.

Numpad 5, read current word.

Numpad 6, move forward one word.

Numpad 1, move back one carachter.

Numpad 2, read current character.

Numpad 3, move forward one carachter.

For numppad 8, 5, and 2, if you press numpad 8 and 5 twice quickly, they spell what they announce.  In other words, numpad 8 twice spells the current line, numpad 5 spells the current word.  If you press these keys three times quickly, they say what they announce phonetically, such as foxtrot alpha, etc.

Since numpad 1 announces the current carachter, pressing it twice announces it phonetically.  Obviously, no spell announcement is necessary because it is already announcing one single carachter.

To move to the top of the screen, use numpad shift 7.

To move to the bottom, numpad shift 9.

Gene

*From:*dennis huckle <mailto:denniswhuckle@outlook.com>

*Sent:*Sunday, September 05, 2021 5:27 AM

*To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

*Subject:*[nvda] jaws cursor in nvda

Hello all,

Is there a keystroke in nvda to review the whole screen rather like the jaws cursor?.

Kind regards,

Dennis huckle.





Re: VS Code with Anaconda

 

On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 11:48 AM, Fawaz Abdul rahman wrote:
the programming l mailing list
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Could you give the subscription information for this list?  That's something that's really handy to have when referring someone to another list or group.
 
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Re: VS Code with Anaconda

Fawaz Abdul rahman
 

Hi,
jupyter notebook extension works fine with vs code and NVDA.
I recommend discussing it in the programming l mailing list, also you can find there previous discussions on the same matter.
good luck.


Re: not constantly maintained addon and compatibility issue

Janet Brandly
 

Hi,

The Phonetic reading app is a great little program. It does work with the latest NVDA. I can't speak to the others other than to say to try them anyway, even though the description may say that they are not compatible.


Janet

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Sent: September 9, 2021 11:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] not constantly maintained addon and compatibility issue

Joseph and all,

Thanks for all the reply.


The addon that I used to reply on and was blocked in nvda 2021.1 was as
follows:

1. EnhancedPhoneticReading

2 beepKeyboard

3 Number Processing

4 ToolbarsExplorer


Thanks


VS Code with Anaconda

Life in Six Dots
 

Does anyone use VS Code with Anaconda? I just wondered if Anaconda works well with NVDA and a braille display. This is for a python project.

 

Any help, suggestions, thoughts are most welcome.

 

Paul


Re: not constantly maintained addon and compatibility issue

 

On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 01:39 AM, William wrote:
Well, I dont think what I proposed is something illogical.
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You asked:  "Can we have a mechanism to make these addons being maintained, even if the developer ignored it or forget to update it?"

If you can't see how asking for maintenance when there's no one maintaining something is logically impossible . . .

And Joseph Lee described, in great detail, why editing manifests is, at very best, a temporary workaround.  

If a given add-on is abandoned, and no other maintainer picks up that ball and runs with it, then it is the wise course of action to find a different add-on or ask if someone else can pick it up for ongoing maintenance.  But you can't logically have something maintained and not maintained at the same time.  

I think it would be great if there were some sort of formal mechanism available for add-on developers who wish to retire from maintaining any given add-on to announce that to the development community seeking someone to take it over.  Even then, if there were no takers, that add-on is done as soon as there is a backward-compatibility-breaking release of NVDA.
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Re: Firefox download new version dialog

Lino Morales <linomorales001@...>
 

Their is. Hit alt H for help and tab to the about then press enter. Next tab over to check for update or if it has already been download the button should say upgrade button.

On 9/10/2021 3:41 AM, Patrick Le Baudour wrote:
Hi,

F6 would be the way to go. you may have to use it more than once depending on where you are.

If I remember correctly, there is a check for update part in the settings page.
-- Patrick


Le 10/09/2021 à 08:02, David Mellor a écrit :
Hello group,
When firefox says the following when ever a new window is opened, is there
any way I can interact with it please?
There are no menu options to check for updates and install.

alert  Update available. Download the latest version of Firefox.
Dismiss  button  Alt+m Download  button  Alt+D

Very many thanks,
David



Nvda beta - eloquence and vocalizer add on

Daniel McGee
 

hello all

During the beta cycle of a new nvda release, can the eloquence and vocalizer addon be used?

If not, is there a way, to separat the: stable release to the: beta release? So that it doesn't mess up the licensing system of the add-on.

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