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Re: Issues with number presentation and beeps

Nancy Shackelford
 

I'm getting the picture now, and the synthesizer is Microsoft Speech
API version 5.
Nance

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Re: Accessible Website Host with Drupal 9

Richard B. McDonald
 

I use BlueHost.  It is not free, but it is pretty cheap.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Amelia Anne Dickerson
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 9:44 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Accessible Website Host with Drupal 9

 

Apologies, I asked a question related to Acquia’s Dev Desktop yesterday. I went ahead and gave it a try, only to find it’s no longer supported by Acquia. So now I’m looking for an accessible website host where I can use Drupal 9.

 

Please forgive my naiveté. I’m a beginner. When I Google this, I just find tips for how to make my website accessible. That’s not what I’m looking for. Does anyone have a favorite website host? Free is pretty important to me.

 

Warm Regards,

Amelia Dickerson

Digital Accessibility Office

Amelia.dickerson@...

 


Re: Issues with number presentation and beeps

Gene
 

You might get help working with the specific synthesizer if you say which one you are using.  This may require some sort of change in the synthesizer functioning itself, such as working with the dictionary for that synthesizer or changing some setting somehow in the synthesizer settings, not any part of NVDA.
 
Gene
-----Original Message[-----

Sent: Friday, September 17, 2021 7:19 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Issues with number presentation and beeps
 
Rui Fontes said,
"Please, can you remember what is the problem with numbers and the
synth in use?"

The problem with the numbers is that it puts the word "and" in the
numbers, such as "six hundred and sixty five."
Thanks,
Nance

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Re: Issues with number presentation and beeps

Nancy Shackelford
 

Rui Fontes said,
"Please, can you remember what is the problem with numbers and the
synth in use?"

The problem with the numbers is that it puts the word "and" in the
numbers, such as "six hundred and sixty five."
Thanks,
Nance

--
Nancy Shackelford --Walk On Faith And Trust In Love - Michael Reid--


Re: Audio ducking not supported?

Andre Fisher
 

Hi.

While I'm glad I'm not alone in this, I'm also curious how other persons on list aren't able to reproduce the issue, given that 21H2 is still in preview and is yet to be released.

I'm wondering if the issue is much more complex than the version of Windows in use.


Re: Issues with number presentation and beeps

Rui Fontes
 

Please, can you remember what is the problem with numbers and the synth in use?

Rui Fontes


Às 09:06 de 17/09/2021, Nancy Shackelford escreveu:

Okay, I was wondering about this as well.

Thanks,
Nance

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Re: Audio ducking not supported?

Mohammadreza Rashad
 

Hi,
apparently, this issue exists with NVDA 2021.2 with Windows versions
below 21h2. I also recieved two reports from persons running 21h1 on
their computers, that they cannot use audio ducking feature, too.

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Best wishes,
Mohammadreza Rashad


Re: Issues with number presentation and beeps

Chris Mullins
 

 

Hi Nancy

You can set NVDA to speak the mode instead of using audio queues when it is changed.  Uncheck “Audio indication of Browse modes” in the Browsing settings dialog (NVDA+Control+b).  There are also various options for progress bar feedback available in the Object Settings dialog (NVDA+Control+o).  Unless there is an addon for number processing I don’t know of any NVDA setting to alter how numbers are spoken.     

 

Cheers

Chris

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Nancy Shackelford
Sent: 17 September 2021 03:15
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Issues with number presentation and beeps

 

Is there another setting regarding NVDA sounds such as the beeps for

progress or forms mode? They stayed in the Windows audio instead of my

other headphones when I changed the output location of the

synthesizer. Is there a place to set how numbers are spoken, such as

getting the "and" out of the speech? Cannot find these in settings.

Thanks,

Nance

 

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Nancy Shackelford --Walk On Faith And Trust In Love - Michael Reid--

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Turning Off Braille Translation

dennis huckle <denniswhuckle@...>
 

Interesting.

So no output at all even though the display could be connected via usb.

Thanks for that.

I can’t think how you do this in jaws either but thought a couple of suggestions might help but always willing to learn.

Kind regards,

Dennis huckle.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui Fontes
Sent: 17 September 2021 00:37
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Turning Off Braille Translation

 

Sorry, but "No Braille" it is to do not use any Braille display...

 

Rui Fontes

 

Às 21:47 de 16/09/2021, dennis huckle escreveu:

Hello again,

I have just noticed a setting within nvda.

Go to settings,

Cursor down to braille,

Tab to change braille display.

Tab to no braille.

Then tab to apply then ok.

This will turn off translation but, I suspect braille display may show what is on screen and just red it as some form of braille.

Then go to the site you want to look at braille grade 3.

However I suspect if no braille is selected you will have to use another keyboard such as a qwerty usb or Bluetooth to control the pc.

Kind regards,

Dennis huckle.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of H l
Sent: 16 September 2021 20:42
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Turning Off Braille Translation

 

Hey,

 

I’m using the orbit reader 20 plus. I’ve currently got the output table set to. UK English grade 2.

Thanks,

Harmony.


Re: Issues with number presentation and beeps

Nancy Shackelford
 

Okay, I was wondering about this as well.

Thanks,
Nance

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Re: Issues with number presentation and beeps

Gene
 

If you don’t mind using another synthesizer when you are listening to text containing a lot of large numbers, the easiest thing to do would be to use a different synthesizer for that time. 
 
Eloquence doesn’t insert and.  I don’t know what other synthesizers don’t
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2021 12:13 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Issues with number presentation and beeps
 
I had thought the NVDA speecch dictionary might solve this problem.  That may not be the case according to a very little bit of experimentation I’ve done.  You may have to use the speech dictionary in the synthesizer itself.
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2021 12:09 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Issues with number presentation and beeps
 
it’s the speech synthesizer that determines whether and is spoken.  NVDA doesn’t insert it. 
 
Others may have the knowledge to discuss if there is a way to eliminate it when a synthesizer inserts it by using a regular expression in the NVDA speech dictionary.
 
Gene
 
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 11:51 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Issues with number presentation and beeps
 
I was afraid of this...  Now, what about my issues with the way numbers are spoken, as in my most recent message?
Thanks again,
Nance
 
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Re: Issues with number presentation and beeps

Gene
 

I had thought the NVDA speecch dictionary might solve this problem.  That may not be the case according to a very little bit of experimentation I’ve done.  You may have to use the speech dictionary in the synthesizer itself.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2021 12:09 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Issues with number presentation and beeps
 
it’s the speech synthesizer that determines whether and is spoken.  NVDA doesn’t insert it. 
 
Others may have the knowledge to discuss if there is a way to eliminate it when a synthesizer inserts it by using a regular expression in the NVDA speech dictionary.
 
Gene
 
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 11:51 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Issues with number presentation and beeps
 
I was afraid of this...  Now, what about my issues with the way numbers are spoken, as in my most recent message?
Thanks again,
Nance
 
--
Nancy Shackelford --Walk On Faith And Trust In Love - Michael Reid--


Re: Issues with number presentation and beeps

Gene
 

it’s the speech synthesizer that determines whether and is spoken.  NVDA doesn’t insert it. 
 
Others may have the knowledge to discuss if there is a way to eliminate it when a synthesizer inserts it by using a regular expression in the NVDA speech dictionary.
 
Gene
 

Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 11:51 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Issues with number presentation and beeps
 
I was afraid of this...  Now, what about my issues with the way numbers are spoken, as in my most recent message?
Thanks again,
Nance
 
--
Nancy Shackelford --Walk On Faith And Trust In Love - Michael Reid--


In-Process is out

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi everyone,

This week's In-Process is out, featuring, as you might expect, NVDA 2021.2, including a reminder to restart after updating, information on the COM Registration fixing tool and an article comparing NVDA to VoiceOver: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/in-process-17th-september-2021/

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Re: Issues with number presentation and beeps

Nancy Shackelford
 

I was afraid of this...  Now, what about my issues with the way numbers are spoken, as in my most recent message?
Thanks again,
Nance

--
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locked Re: regarding adding my voice as an variant of nvda

Luis Carlos González Moráles
 

Sorry about that Bryan. Will create something when ever I have time.

Brian Vogel wrote:

I am now officially asking that this topic be taken to the Chat Subgroup or elsewhere.  The actual creation of a synthesizer really has nothing to do with NVDA.
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locked Re: regarding adding my voice as an variant of nvda

 

I am now officially asking that this topic be taken to the Chat Subgroup or elsewhere.  The actual creation of a synthesizer really has nothing to do with NVDA.
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Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.

         ~Martin Luther King, Jr.

 


locked Re: regarding adding my voice as an variant of nvda

udit pandey
 

I checked that site but it is an payed thing


On Fri, 17 Sept 2021 at 07:49, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
My understanding was that you wanted to make a synthesizer or voice which made NVDA sound like you - but I have no experience with that so couldn't directly help :)

Some of the more human-sounding synthesizers, I believe are based off recordings of someone, but I think there is a LOT of processing which goes into turning them into a synthesizer.  I have no idea on the process and expect it would be a lot of work.

I did find this from Acapela: https://www.acapela-group.com/solutions/my-own-voice/ It's apparently a service where you record a set of 50 phrases they give you, and create a TTS from it.  It looks like you can create it and try it out for free, but in order to actually use it you will need to pay.  I couldn't readily see how much it costs.

Quentin.

On Thu, Sep 16, 2021 at 4:26 PM udit pandey <udit52805@...> wrote:
then what?

On Thu, 16 Sept 2021 at 09:29, Luis Carlos González Moráles <luiscarlosgm@...> wrote:
Why not create/synthesize your own in RHVoice? I was in contact with Louder pages about a spanish RHVoice and...

udit pandey wrote:
but I want to make my own synthesizer

On Thu, 16 Sept 2021 at 01:09, hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

Hi  udit


If you are talking about making your own E speak voice you do not use your voice to record a sample of it. It is more playing around with certain parts of it like changing the tone etc then listening to it to see if it does what you want. There is a file in where all the voices are keaped called tweaky that will guide you on how to do it.


It might be different for the sapi version but have not tried it.


There is also a link here that is off one of my pages of where to look to find the E speak voices where they are keap.


Look for the headings that refer to E speak and they will show you where to look on the installer version as well as the portable version..


The link to this page is http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/how%20to%20install%20additional%20nvda%20components.html




I have put in the contents below for the tweaky file.


Yu can copy the content of the tweaky file into notepad then make some changes. But to hear the difference it must be put back into the folder where they are keap.


You can use notepad to play around with the settings.





##Please note the 2 number signs, or pound signs in this file are for comments to help you to understand what the settings are and how to set them. 
## Language sets the language of your voice.  This setting is required for every voice that you make.
##The next line is a setting you can change.  However if you don't know the language codes it may be best to leave the setting as it is.
language variant

## The name setting is the name that will show up in the voice settings in the variant combo box.
##The next line is a setting you can change
name Tweaky

##The formant settings
##  Formant 0 is used to give a low frequency component to the sounds.
## The three numbers are frequency, strength, and Width, in that order.  Please note, the numbers are seperated by a space.
##The next line is a setting you can change
formant 0 100 100 100

# Formants 1,2, and 3 are the standard three formants which define vowels.
##The next 3 lines are settings you can change
formant 1 100 100 100
formant 2 100 100 100
formant 3 200 100 100

# Formants 4,5 are higher than F3. They affect the quality of the voice.
##The next 2 lines are settings that you can change.
formant 4 100 100 100
formant 5 100 100 100

## Formants 6, 7, and 8 are weak, high frequency, additions to vowels to give a clearer sound.
##The next 3 lines are settings that you can change.
formant 6 100 100 100
formant 7 100 100 100
formant 8 100 100 100

##Intonation affects the rise and fall of the voice   
## The settings are 1 default, 2 less intonation, 3 less intonation and commas do not raise the pitch, 4 the pitch rises at the end of a sentence rather than falling.
##The next line is a setting you can change.
intonation 1

# Setting the pitch range.  The first number gives a base pitch to the voice (value in Hertz).  The second number controls the range of pitches used by the voice. Setting it equal
# to the first number will give a monotone sounding voice.  The default values are 82 and 118.
pitch 82 118
## The tone setting.  The first number on the setting line, 600, is the frequency setting for the amount of bass in the voice.
## The second number on the tone line is the volume of the bass frequency.  You can set it from 0 to 255, 0 being the least amount, 255 being the most.
##The third number on the tone line, 1200, is the mid range frequency.  The fourth number on the line is the setting to change the volume of the mid range frequency.
##0 being the least amount and 255 being the maximum.
## The fifth number on the tone line, 2000, is the treble frequency.  The sixth number is the volume of the treble frequency.  0 is the minimum and 255 is the maximum.
##  You will notice that all 3 frequencies are set to 255.
##The next line is a setting that you can change.
tone 600 255  1200 255 2000 255
##This file does not include all of the settings that can be used to modify an E Speak voice.  It is intended to get you familiar with what the settings do.
##However, you can go to http://espeak.sourceforge.net/voices.html and read further information about other settings that can be added and changed.  I hope this helps, and Have fun.



On 16/09/2021 4:28 am, udit pandey wrote:
hi group,
Hope that you all are in good health I wanted to know that can I add my voice for nvda eg. I can record my voice and then nvda have an variant of my name



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Re: Issues with number presentation and beeps

Gene
 

There is no NVDA setting to do this.  If it can be done, it is a windows setting related to sounds being played through the soundcard you like.  These NVDA sounds are wave files and I don’t know if you can tell windows to play wave sounds through a specific device.  And that would affect things such as wave files in general, if you listen to audio in the form of wave files such as music you have digitized in the wave format and you will hear Windows sounds through the same place as your synthesizer.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 9:15 PM
Subject: [nvda] Issues with number presentation and beeps
 
Is there another setting regarding NVDA sounds such as the beeps for
progress or forms mode? They stayed in the Windows audio instead of my
other headphones when I changed the output location of the
synthesizer. Is there a place to set how numbers are spoken, such as
getting the "and" out of the speech? Cannot find these in settings.
Thanks,
Nance

--
Nancy Shackelford --Walk On Faith And Trust In Love - Michael Reid--





locked Re: regarding adding my voice as an variant of nvda

Quentin Christensen
 

My understanding was that you wanted to make a synthesizer or voice which made NVDA sound like you - but I have no experience with that so couldn't directly help :)

Some of the more human-sounding synthesizers, I believe are based off recordings of someone, but I think there is a LOT of processing which goes into turning them into a synthesizer.  I have no idea on the process and expect it would be a lot of work.

I did find this from Acapela: https://www.acapela-group.com/solutions/my-own-voice/ It's apparently a service where you record a set of 50 phrases they give you, and create a TTS from it.  It looks like you can create it and try it out for free, but in order to actually use it you will need to pay.  I couldn't readily see how much it costs.

Quentin.

On Thu, Sep 16, 2021 at 4:26 PM udit pandey <udit52805@...> wrote:
then what?

On Thu, 16 Sept 2021 at 09:29, Luis Carlos González Moráles <luiscarlosgm@...> wrote:
Why not create/synthesize your own in RHVoice? I was in contact with Louder pages about a spanish RHVoice and...

udit pandey wrote:
but I want to make my own synthesizer

On Thu, 16 Sept 2021 at 01:09, hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

Hi  udit


If you are talking about making your own E speak voice you do not use your voice to record a sample of it. It is more playing around with certain parts of it like changing the tone etc then listening to it to see if it does what you want. There is a file in where all the voices are keaped called tweaky that will guide you on how to do it.


It might be different for the sapi version but have not tried it.


There is also a link here that is off one of my pages of where to look to find the E speak voices where they are keap.


Look for the headings that refer to E speak and they will show you where to look on the installer version as well as the portable version..


The link to this page is http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/how%20to%20install%20additional%20nvda%20components.html




I have put in the contents below for the tweaky file.


Yu can copy the content of the tweaky file into notepad then make some changes. But to hear the difference it must be put back into the folder where they are keap.


You can use notepad to play around with the settings.





##Please note the 2 number signs, or pound signs in this file are for comments to help you to understand what the settings are and how to set them. 
## Language sets the language of your voice.  This setting is required for every voice that you make.
##The next line is a setting you can change.  However if you don't know the language codes it may be best to leave the setting as it is.
language variant

## The name setting is the name that will show up in the voice settings in the variant combo box.
##The next line is a setting you can change
name Tweaky

##The formant settings
##  Formant 0 is used to give a low frequency component to the sounds.
## The three numbers are frequency, strength, and Width, in that order.  Please note, the numbers are seperated by a space.
##The next line is a setting you can change
formant 0 100 100 100

# Formants 1,2, and 3 are the standard three formants which define vowels.
##The next 3 lines are settings you can change
formant 1 100 100 100
formant 2 100 100 100
formant 3 200 100 100

# Formants 4,5 are higher than F3. They affect the quality of the voice.
##The next 2 lines are settings that you can change.
formant 4 100 100 100
formant 5 100 100 100

## Formants 6, 7, and 8 are weak, high frequency, additions to vowels to give a clearer sound.
##The next 3 lines are settings that you can change.
formant 6 100 100 100
formant 7 100 100 100
formant 8 100 100 100

##Intonation affects the rise and fall of the voice   
## The settings are 1 default, 2 less intonation, 3 less intonation and commas do not raise the pitch, 4 the pitch rises at the end of a sentence rather than falling.
##The next line is a setting you can change.
intonation 1

# Setting the pitch range.  The first number gives a base pitch to the voice (value in Hertz).  The second number controls the range of pitches used by the voice. Setting it equal
# to the first number will give a monotone sounding voice.  The default values are 82 and 118.
pitch 82 118
## The tone setting.  The first number on the setting line, 600, is the frequency setting for the amount of bass in the voice.
## The second number on the tone line is the volume of the bass frequency.  You can set it from 0 to 255, 0 being the least amount, 255 being the most.
##The third number on the tone line, 1200, is the mid range frequency.  The fourth number on the line is the setting to change the volume of the mid range frequency.
##0 being the least amount and 255 being the maximum.
## The fifth number on the tone line, 2000, is the treble frequency.  The sixth number is the volume of the treble frequency.  0 is the minimum and 255 is the maximum.
##  You will notice that all 3 frequencies are set to 255.
##The next line is a setting that you can change.
tone 600 255  1200 255 2000 255
##This file does not include all of the settings that can be used to modify an E Speak voice.  It is intended to get you familiar with what the settings do.
##However, you can go to http://espeak.sourceforge.net/voices.html and read further information about other settings that can be added and changed.  I hope this helps, and Have fun.



On 16/09/2021 4:28 am, udit pandey wrote:
hi group,
Hope that you all are in good health I wanted to know that can I add my voice for nvda eg. I can record my voice and then nvda have an variant of my name



--
hope that you all are safe with your family,
 udit
follow me on instagram: udit@pandey123
mail me on gmail at udit52805@...
or outlook me at uditpandey6474@outlook
we should not never speak bad, we should never see bad, and we should never lisson bad




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hope that you all are safe with your family,
 udit
follow me on instagram: udit@pandey123
mail me on gmail at udit52805@...
or outlook me at uditpandey6474@outlook
we should not never speak bad, we should never see bad, and we should never lisson bad



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