The only time it won't work is if the new release is a compatibility breaking release, like NVDA 2021.1 was.  We don't do such a release every year, but if we do, it will be the first release of the year.  Most importantly, if we do, we'll be sure to publicise it well in advance, as we have done previously - both here in the group, on our social media (Twitter and Facebook) and in our In-Process blog: https://www.nvaccess.org/category/in-process/

If you do attempt to install a new version which is incompatible with your existing add-ons, it will warn you of this and which add-ons are incompatible, before you update, and at that point you can decide to continue and disable those add-ons, or cancel and not go ahead with the update.  Another option, is to create a portable version.  A portable version lets you separate, as you suggested - your two versions of NVDA so you can keep using older add-ons if needed until they are updated to work with a new version of NVDA.  There are a couple of caveats to using a portable copy, such as not being able to run it on the logon screen, and these are outlined in the user guide: https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/userGuide.html#PortableAndTemporaryCopyRestrictions

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Sat, Sep 11, 2021 at 7:55 AM David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...> wrote:

I've used the Eloquence/Vocalizer addon with beta and RC builds with no difficulties. Of course, this assumes that you're not working with a beta which breaks compatibility with the addon.

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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Daniel McGee
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2021 9:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Nvda beta - eloquence and vocalizer add on

 hello all

During the beta cycle of a new nvda release, can the eloquence and vocalizer addon be used?

If not, is there a way, to separat the: stable release to the: beta release? So that it doesn't mess up the licensing system of the add-on.

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I think there is some sort of sounds add-on. I’ve seen it discussed when
this problem has been discussed before. Do you have this problem when you
start NVDA with all add-ons disabled? If you don’t know how, we can tell
you. That is the first thing to test unless you know you have the add-on
I’m talking about. We need to know if NVDA has anything to do with this
problem in the first place.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: ksaeteurn@jellybelly.com
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2021 4:10 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] How to eliminate all beep sounds when speech mode is off

Hello,

I've looked through NVDA's preferences and various settings, and have done a
search in this forum, but I haven't found any information about how to
resolve this issue.

The problem is, when I have speech mode off, I still hear beeping sounds
whenever I click on new windows/programs/tabs that I have on my desktop.

For example:
I have speech mode off. I'm on Mozilla Firefox on one monitor, and then I
click on my Atom Text Editor in my second monitor, and I hear the beep right
after the click.
Also, clicking on different tabs, whether on my browser, or my text editor,
sets off this beep as well.
All of this happens even though I have speech mode off.

Does anyone else have this issue? And can anyone tell me how I can make the
beeping sounds go away? I have no need for it. All I need is the speech mode
on/off.

I thought perhaps installing this plugin would do the trick, but all it does
is eliminate the beep option for when you toggle with "Insert + s" (i.e.
with the add on, you can just toggle between speech mode on and off), it
doesn't actually eliminate the beeps I still hear when speech mode is off.

Any help would be great. Thank you kindly.

I would, but my choices are quite limited, and I definitely can't
understand even the English voice for E speak, so I'll figure
something out. Was trying to wait till the 3rd to get the 95-dollar
Elloquence. Think I'll take Chris's suggestion to address the sounds
problem and to be better able to tell when it's in which mode by
setting it to use speech for this.
Thanks,
Nance

Rui said: And do you want it to say: six six five?

6 6 5 or 6 hundred 65, just without the and.

Nance

Hi,
apparently, this issue exists with NVDA 2021.2 with Windows versions
below 21h2. I also recieved two reports from persons running 21h1 on
their computers, that they cannot use audio ducking feature, too.

Rui Fontes said,
"Please, can you remember what is the problem with numbers and the
synth in use?"

The problem with the numbers is that it puts the word "and" in the
numbers, such as "six hundred and sixty five."
Thanks,
Nance