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Re: regarding adding my voice as an variant of nvda
On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 09:15 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
You didn’t look too hard in this instance.- I'll freely admit I didn't: 1. Because it's not NVDA related in any meaningful sense. 2. I cannot think of anything more annoying, to myself (others will differ), than listening to my own voice come out of a synth. I don't even like hearing myself on recordings. The idea of "me talking to me" from a screen reader - No, thanks. Brian -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043 Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity. ~Martin Luther King, Jr.
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Re: regarding adding my voice as an variant of nvda
Steve Nutt
Hi Brian,
You didn’t look too hard in this instance. 😊
https://mov.acapela-group.com/
Apparently, you can produce your own voice with the Acapela synth, then get it as a SAPI voice, so it would be quite possible to have your own voice with NVDA.
I don’t know costs or anything, but it is certainly possible.
All the best
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: 15 September 2021 17:42 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] regarding adding my voice as an variant of nvda
Udit, Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043 Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity. ~Martin Luther King, Jr.
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Re: point to consider with NVDA2021.2 and eSpeak
Steve Nutt
It doesn’t sound anything like Eloquence to be honest.
It is more responsive with NVDA than any flavour of Eloquence, but nowhere near as easy to listen to.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Smart
Sent: 15 September 2021 17:13 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] point to consider with NVDA2021.2 and eSpeak
Interesting. I like a slightly lower pitch value. That does get things a little closer to sounding like Eloquence though. (grin)
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
Well I did some experimenting with NVDA 2021.2 since its Espeak has been updated. I found if I set the voice to English American, the variant to Edward, raise the pitch to around 70, lower the inflection from 75, default, down to 30 or 40, Espeak for me is much more pleasant to listen to. And it is much more understandable at least for me.
Josh
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Re: settings for Adobe
Gene
What browser are you using? Many people use browsers to read PDF
files.
Gene
-----Original Message-----
From:
Dave
Grossoehme
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] settings for Adobe Good
Aftaernoon: Is Adobe the best program for reading PDF files? If
not, what are others using to read a PDF with, instead of Adobe dc reader? Dave G On 9/16/2021 4:47 PM, Rui Fontes wrote: > Edit menu, Accessibility preferences, or something like that. > > > Rui Fontes > > > Às 23:33 de 16/09/2021, Dave Grossoehme escreveu: >> Hi How does a person go into the settings for adobe to make sure it >> is set to read the whole page or read right to left in Adobe with >> NVDA. This is when the application of Adobe Reader D. C. is already >> installed in a Windows 10 computer. I can find the help where it >> tells me what to do. However, can't find it when trying to check this >> and a file is opened you don't get this. Has something changed for >> NVDA 2021.2 or is this a bug in NVDA? Please help. >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >
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Re: settings for Adobe
Gene
This message doesn’t seem to have reached the list. I’m sending it
again.
What browser are you using? Many people use browsers to read PDF
files.
Gene
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From:
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Grossoehme
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] settings for Adobe Good
Aftaernoon: Is Adobe the best program for reading PDF files? If
not, what are others using to read a PDF with, instead of Adobe dc reader? Dave G On 9/16/2021 4:47 PM, Rui Fontes wrote: > Edit menu, Accessibility preferences, or something like that. > > > Rui Fontes > > > Às 23:33 de 16/09/2021, Dave Grossoehme escreveu: >> Hi How does a person go into the settings for adobe to make sure it >> is set to read the whole page or read right to left in Adobe with >> NVDA. This is when the application of Adobe Reader D. C. is already >> installed in a Windows 10 computer. I can find the help where it >> tells me what to do. However, can't find it when trying to check this >> and a file is opened you don't get this. Has something changed for >> NVDA 2021.2 or is this a bug in NVDA? Please help. >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >
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Re: Cannot write much of anything on Facebook without bringing up the feature to tag individuals
I also use m.facebook.com, since it worked the best for me. If I need to do anything fancy with my post, I'll just do it from the iOS app.
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Re: settings for Adobe
Dave Grossoehme
Good Aftaernoon: Is Adobe the best program for reading PDF files? If not, what are others using to read a PDF with, instead of Adobe dc reader?
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Dave G
On 9/16/2021 4:47 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:
Edit menu, Accessibility preferences, or something like that.
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Re: How to eliminate all beep sounds when speech mode is off
Gene
I can’t comment on the desktop sounds. It also isn’t clear if the
user uses some sight. If you use sleep in whatever program you are in, you
won’t be able to use the screen-reader at all, yet the person didn’t comment on
that.
In terms of the browser, from what the person wrote in recent messages, the
problem is that the person is hearing the sounds that the browser makes by
default when automatically switching between browse mode and focus mode as you
move through a web page and come to certain structures.
Sleep mode would stop these sounds, if done in such a way that it is on
while the browser is running because NVDA is completely inactive. But then
you wouldn’t have browse mode and you wouldn’t have any screen-reader
information so you wouldn’t use the browser in the first place unless you were
using sight to move around the web page. Perhaps the person has enough
site for navigation but not enough for comfortable extended reading. There
is too much we don’t know about how the person uses NVDA, but, we now know
that the person didn’t want to hear the change sounds.
Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 3:13 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to eliminate all beep sounds when speech
mode is off On
Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 02:34 PM, Gene wrote: Sleep mode is a red herring. It has nothing to do with the issue.- Then, Gene, please do elaborate on what you see as "the issue." It wasn't perfectly clear at the outset, and the original poster did say, much later, that sleep mode was silencing everything, which is what I thought he wanted based on, "The problem is, when I have speech mode off, I still hear beeping sounds whenever I click on new windows/programs/tabs that I have on my desktop." It's pretty clear now that all he wanted to do was to eliminate the two sounds NVDA uses to signal the switch between browse and focus modes because he found them very annoying. That has been achieved, by unchecking the setting noted. The original poster does not seem, from anything said in this topic, to have any confusion about what browse and focus mode are or how they behave. -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043 Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity. ~Martin Luther King, Jr.
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Re: How to eliminate all beep sounds when speech mode is off
On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 02:34 PM, Gene wrote:
Sleep mode is a red herring. It has nothing to do with the issue.- Then, Gene, please do elaborate on what you see as "the issue." It wasn't perfectly clear at the outset, and the original poster did say, much later, that sleep mode was silencing everything, which is what I thought he wanted based on, "The problem is, when I have speech mode off, I still hear beeping sounds whenever I click on new windows/programs/tabs that I have on my desktop." It's pretty clear now that all he wanted to do was to eliminate the two sounds NVDA uses to signal the switch between browse and focus modes because he found them very annoying. That has been achieved, by unchecking the setting noted. The original poster does not seem, from anything said in this topic, to have any confusion about what browse and focus mode are or how they behave. -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043 Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity. ~Martin Luther King, Jr.
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Re: How to eliminate all beep sounds when speech mode is off
Gene
It is important to understand when and why the browser is switching between
browse mode and forms mode. It is important to read the information in the
user guide about browsing. The web page isn’t changing. the
screen-reader is automatically switching modes.
Sleep mode is a red herring. It has nothing to do with the
issue.
You should also be able to get information about browsing with NVDA in
various tutorials and training materials. But if you don’t get this
information, you may have ongoing confusion.
Do you know how to work with the user guide? I won’t go into where
the information is is this message.
Gene
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From: ksaeteurn@...
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 12:18 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to eliminate all beep sounds when speech
mode is off @Brian,
thank you for looking into this in depth for me. I'm new to NVDA, so I
appreciate the help. Perhaps you are correct. Some of these issues might be specific to my machine. I'm not sure. Regarding enabling Sleep Mode, I tested it once more by putting everything back to the default settings, including re-selecting "Audio indication of focus and browse modes". You were right. There is a "global suspend" option that eliminates the beeping sounds entirely when both Speech Mode is On and Sleep Mode is On. In other words, with Speech and Sleep Modes On, I don't hear those beeping sounds. However, the beeping sounds still occur when Speech Mode is On and Sleep Mode is Off. The beeps occur when I navigate through elements on a page (either with my tab key or mouse). The beep will sound just before NVDA starts reading stuff. Ultimately the solution for me is to unselect that "Audio indication..." setting to get NVDA to fit my needs (the beeps literally hurts my ears).
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Re: How to eliminate all beep sounds when speech mode is off
On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 01:18 PM, <ksaeteurn@...> wrote:
Ultimately the solution for me is to unselect that "Audio indication..." setting to get NVDA to fit my needs (the beeps literally hurts my ears).- I could have sworn that the sounds used were somehow "tweakable" but I'm not finding anything in the User Manual. In any case, NVDA will just speak the mode it's transitioned into as those transitions occur. -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043 Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity. ~Martin Luther King, Jr.
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Re: Cannot write much of anything on Facebook without bringing up the feature to tag individuals
Jackie
Chris S, that *actually appears S, that *actually seems to work! I'd
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heard of m.facebook.com, which did not solve the problem, but not this address. Sorry for answering this post, Nimer & Brian--it will be my last on the topic--but it's been a severe limitation in my using FB, &, though I doubt I'll like it any better, this alleviated at least some of the discomfort of using it when necessity dictates.
On 9/20/21, Pawel Urbanski <pawel@e-urbanski.com> wrote:
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Re: How to eliminate all beep sounds when speech mode is off
ksaeteurn@...
@Brian, thank you for looking into this in depth for me. I'm new to NVDA, so I appreciate the help.
Perhaps you are correct. Some of these issues might be specific to my machine. I'm not sure. Regarding enabling Sleep Mode, I tested it once more by putting everything back to the default settings, including re-selecting "Audio indication of focus and browse modes". You were right. There is a "global suspend" option that eliminates the beeping sounds entirely when both Speech Mode is On and Sleep Mode is On. In other words, with Speech and Sleep Modes On, I don't hear those beeping sounds. However, the beeping sounds still occur when Speech Mode is On and Sleep Mode is Off. The beeps occur when I navigate through elements on a page (either with my tab key or mouse). The beep will sound just before NVDA starts reading stuff. Ultimately the solution for me is to unselect that "Audio indication..." setting to get NVDA to fit my needs (the beeps literally hurts my ears).
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Re: Cannot write much of anything on Facebook without bringing up the feature to tag individuals
Pawel Urbanski
Just so you know... I addressed many bugs with solutions including rough code to Facebook.
I reached to my connections working there at different levels and departments. I know that htey passed my feedback on, but nobody has ever got in touch despite my offer to spend some time on resolution...
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Re: How to eliminate all beep sounds when speech mode is off
No there is not, sleep mode is what you would be looking for int is case.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 9:28 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] How to eliminate all beep sounds when speech mode is off
A correction, the documentation says of sleep mode: "sleep mode disables all NVDA commands and speech/braille output for the current application." Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043 Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity. ~Martin Luther King, Jr.
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Re: How to eliminate all beep sounds when speech mode is off
A correction, the documentation says of sleep mode: "sleep mode disables all NVDA commands and speech/braille output for the current application."
That "for the current application" proviso is something I just glossed over. I also glossed over "speech/braille output," as that doesn't include other audio output, at least as stated. Sleep mode seems to be a sort of temporary application profile only for the application that NVDA is running over at the moment you invoke it. I could have sworn that there was, for lack of a better way of putting it, a "global suspend" command for NVDA where it continues to run, but does absolutely nothing while suspended. But if there is I haven't found it with a quick search. -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043 Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity. ~Martin Luther King, Jr.
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Re: How to eliminate all beep sounds when speech mode is off
On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 11:46 AM, <ksaeteurn@...> wrote:
@Brian, I tried NVDA + Shift + S but it didn't work.- Interesting. I looked at the screenshot you posted and it makes even less sense to me that these sounds were being produced when NVDA was in sleep mode. As described, that's supposed to suppress all output from NVDA. The question now is whether this is true universally, which means a bug (or sure does to me), or not, which means something idiosyncratic to your machine. -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043 Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity. ~Martin Luther King, Jr.
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Re: How to eliminate all beep sounds when speech mode is off
ksaeteurn@...
@Jackie, nope, it's unchecked. That sound was hard on my ears. I'm glad my volume was down haha.
@Brian, I tried NVDA + Shift + S but it didn't work. Anyway, I found the issue. The beeping sounds were coming from Preferences > Settings > Browse Mode > "Audio indication of focus and browse modes". That option, by default, was selected. Unselecting that made the beeps go away entirely while Speech Mode was off. Tested thoroughly, and confirmed that this was causing the beeps while Speech Mode was off. Please see this image: https://ibb.co/RvCc3Dt Maybe this isn't an issue for everyone (it sounds like it isn't), so to be clear, I'm on a windows 10 machine and my NVDA version is 2021.2. Hope this helps others in the future. Thank you everyone for your patience and support.
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Three add-on releases: Clock development build, Extended Winamp 2.1, Golden Cursor 5.1
#addonrelease
Hi all, Three add-on releases are now available via Add-on Updater:
All three updates include localization updates. IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENTS:
Changelog for Clock add-on (for other add-ons, they include localization updates):
These changes will be part of the next stable version of Clock add-on, tentatively scheduled for November 2021. P.S. Expect add-on updates like this in the next few days. Cheers, Joseph
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Re: Cannot write much of anything on Facebook without bringing up the feature to tag individuals
Or just use mbasic.facebook.com
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Governor staten Sent: September 20, 2021 10:20 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Cannot write much of anything on Facebook without bringing up the feature to tag individuals The writing it in notepad and pasting it in is what I do. Facebook needs to fix this one. On Sep 20, 2021, at 10:15 AM, Jackie <abletec@gmail.com> wrote:
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