The download ;page, near the top, describes how to install the synthesizer add-on and the voices.  They are all installed as add-ons according to the page.  Where you save them doesn’t matter, just as it doesn’t matter where you ssave and store any exe files or add-ons you want to run. 

 

While I expect you are on  the correct page, here is the link to avoid any possible confusion:

Tiflotecnia - Vocalizer-NVDA Voices Download Page

 

The instructions begin a few lines from the top of the page.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Nevzat Adil

Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2021 5:41 PM

To: nvda@groups.io

Subject: [nvda] Downloading from Vocalizer Tiflotecnia and Automatic Language change

 

Hi Group,

I have two questions and I would appreciate your
comments.
1. As it is said that Vocalizer Tiflotecnia for NVDA has automatic
language change I tried to download voices that I need, but I am not
sure where to save them when it gives me the option to open or save.
1. eSpeak sometimes performs automatic language change but incorectly.
For instance when I have Turkish text it reads it as Spanish.
Also when I read Greek text on a website it reads the letters one at a
time, but not as words or sentences.
When I copy the text and paste it into a Word document it reads it as
it should.
Nevzat
--
Nevzat Adil
Library of Congress Certified
Literary Braille Proofreader
C: 512 502 4403
e-mail: nevzatadil@...
Facebook: m.facebook.com/LiteraryBrailleProofreader

I went back two versions and less than is spoken using some punctuation
and so is greater than.  Do you know how to change the level if you
don’t want them spoken at that level?
Gene
-----Original Message-----
*From:* Don H <mailto:lmddh50@...>
*Sent:* Wednesday, September 29, 2021 6:38 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* [nvda] speaking punctuation
Running windows10 latest veersion and latest version of NVDA.  I have
always had my punctuation  set for some.  Seems that with the latest
release of NVDA the less than is now being spoken.  Did not speak before
with a setting of Some.

Essentials is one, actually the main one I use. Also cod factory’s eloquence, but that one is a nice to have.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of JinYoun
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2021 9:34 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] must have NVDA add-ons

 

Hi, I was just curious if there are essential add-ons we should get for NVDA?
What are your must have add-ons for NVDA?
Thank you 

Add-On Updater is on my "must have" list.  It takes all the guesswork out of keeping any of the "official" add-ons up to date.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.

         ~Martin Luther King, Jr.

Hi, I was just curious if there are essential add-ons we should get for NVDA?
What are your must have add-ons for NVDA?
Thank you 

Outlook essentially treats emails like Word documents, so yes that setting applies to both Word and to emails in Outlook.

I'm not sure which version of Office she has, I think for newer builds, using UIA fixes a number of issues we can't otherwise address and will soon be the default.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 3:59 PM hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

Hi Quentin

I will pass on the information you gave me to her and see what happens.

I will see if it does the job in word and do you know if it will do it for outlook as well. I just looked in the advanced settings saw it for word but not outlook as well does that use word code?  I also saw it for some others.

If things work correctly  should I tell her to save her settings.

Any other info to pass on?

Any problems  for me to note.

She might take a couple of days to get back to me.

If the problems are fixed should i then not do a ticket? or let her try it for a week or so before we go any further.

Gene nz

On 29/09/2021 5:19 pm, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Ah I just explored a bit more - I am using NVDA 2021.2
 
Windows 10 (64-bit) Version: 2009, Build: 19043
 
Office 365 (64-bit) Version: 16.0.14326.20384 

This happens at least on my pc when I have NVDA set NOT to use UI Automation in Word.  If you go into NVDA's advanced controls and check that option:

1. Press NVDA+control+g to open options

2. Press CONTROL+SHIFT+TAB to the "Advanced" category.

3. Press spacebar to acknowledge the "I understand...." warning.

4. Press TAB until the focus is on "Use UI Automation to access Microsoft Word Document Controls".

5. Press SPACEBAR to check this.

6. Press ENTER.

Now emoji's should be read correctly.

Quentin

On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 2:10 PM hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

Hi Quentin

The lady I have been talking to via email say what happens  goes like this.

she goes into outlook and does a new email. In the body of the email she will type up some stuff. If then she uses the Windows key + . to bring up the emoji panel when she arrows around the emojis are spoken out correctly She presses the enter key on the one she wants it is then inserted into the email. Then she will press the escape key to close the panel So if she types more and then adds more text and emojis it is not until  it is when she goes to review the email it says 12 in place of the emoji.

So the example would be I saw a emoji police car today and a fire emoji engine down the street.

The word emoji is not spoken out but it was more to let you know it was in the email.

so when she goes to read it back with the arrow keys she gets the following in the email.

So the example would be I saw a 12today and 12down the street.

She is using Windows 10 and nvda 2021.2. I think she said it also happened in word when she went to review the document where she had inserted them.

Those settings were checked you gave. I have told her what to do about setting to debug level recreating the problem in the program and sending me back the log so I can do a ticket.

She said when some one sends her a email with emojis in it they are spoken out correctly but not in the part where you type stuff inserting a emoji then reading back the email to send it that is where the problem is. She does not have a braille display she is hearing it.

Apparently I have seen 2 or 3 others on the list with the same problem in the thread.

Gene nz

On 29/09/2021 2:13 pm, Quentin Christensen wrote:

On the voice settings page (NVDA+control+v) you want to enable "Include Unicode Consortium data (including emoji) when processing characters and symbols"

From the user guide: https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/userGuide.html#SpeechSettings

"When this checkbox is checked, NVDA will include additional symbol pronunciation dictionaries when pronouncing characters and symbols. These dictionaries contain descriptions for symbols (particularly emoji) that are provided by the Unicode Consortium as part of their Common Locale Data Repository. If you want NVDA to speak descriptions of emoji characters based on this data, you should enable this option. However, if you are using a speech synthesizer that supports speaking emoji descriptions natively, you may wish to turn this off.

Note that manually added or edited character descriptions are saved as part of your user settings. Therefore, if you change the description of a particular emoji, your custom description will be spoken for that emoji regardless of whether this option is enabled. You can add, edit or remove symbol descriptions in NVDA's punctuation/symbol pronunciation dialog.

To toggle Unicode Consortium data inclusion from anywhere, please assign a custom gesture using the Input Gestures dialog."

On Tue, Sep 28, 2021 at 8:42 AM hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

Hi guys


Has any one had the following problem using outlook? when after
inserting a emoji when you go to read back what you have typed in the
email it says 12 instead of the name of the emoji.


They are using windows 10 not sure which version yet and to make sure I
am going to get her to update nvda she might already have I will find
out shortly.


The below is what she said and I have no answer about saying emoji
before it.


But, weirdly, when I select them and read back over that spot it just
says 12 where each one is.  Then if I send the e-mail and someone
replies I can read them if I scroll down to my original e-mail.  Emojis
from other people are reading fine.

Is this a setting I need to change in NVDA or is it something to do with
my rather outdated 2013 version of outlook.  And can I set NVDA to say
emoji when it reads one so I know it isn’t part of the text if it is a
bit random.

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Web: www.nvaccess.org 

Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/

User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Web: www.nvaccess.org 

Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/

User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess

Hi, I don't think there's such a thing as must have addons as adons are meant to customize things to your own liking, which is a really indiviual thing. I think TextNav is often quite useful for reading web content so you can skip straight to the paragraphs etc. Some people really love Golden Cursor for navigating with the mouse, ObjPad can make object nav easier but it's not critical, many use Windows App Essentials especially if you use Windows universal apps a lot, and place markers can sometimes be useful.

On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 9:31 AM JinYoun <healthytaeshim@...> wrote:

Hi, I was just curious, is the add-on updater for NVDA something we have to download or do add-ons get updated automatically?
Thanks 

On Sep 28, 2021, at 11:15 PM, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:



Outlook essentially treats emails like Word documents, so yes that setting applies to both Word and to emails in Outlook.

I'm not sure which version of Office she has, I think for newer builds, using UIA fixes a number of issues we can't otherwise address and will soon be the default.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 3:59 PM hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

Hi Quentin

I will pass on the information you gave me to her and see what happens.

I will see if it does the job in word and do you know if it will do it for outlook as well. I just looked in the advanced settings saw it for word but not outlook as well does that use word code?  I also saw it for some others.

If things work correctly  should I tell her to save her settings.

Any other info to pass on?

Any problems  for me to note.

She might take a couple of days to get back to me.

If the problems are fixed should i then not do a ticket? or let her try it for a week or so before we go any further.

Gene nz

On 29/09/2021 5:19 pm, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Ah I just explored a bit more - I am using NVDA 2021.2
 
Windows 10 (64-bit) Version: 2009, Build: 19043
 
Office 365 (64-bit) Version: 16.0.14326.20384 

This happens at least on my pc when I have NVDA set NOT to use UI Automation in Word.  If you go into NVDA's advanced controls and check that option:

1. Press NVDA+control+g to open options

2. Press CONTROL+SHIFT+TAB to the "Advanced" category.

3. Press spacebar to acknowledge the "I understand...." warning.

4. Press TAB until the focus is on "Use UI Automation to access Microsoft Word Document Controls".

5. Press SPACEBAR to check this.

6. Press ENTER.

Now emoji's should be read correctly.

Quentin

On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 2:10 PM hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

Hi Quentin

The lady I have been talking to via email say what happens  goes like this.

she goes into outlook and does a new email. In the body of the email she will type up some stuff. If then she uses the Windows key + . to bring up the emoji panel when she arrows around the emojis are spoken out correctly She presses the enter key on the one she wants it is then inserted into the email. Then she will press the escape key to close the panel So if she types more and then adds more text and emojis it is not until  it is when she goes to review the email it says 12 in place of the emoji.

So the example would be I saw a emoji police car today and a fire emoji engine down the street.

The word emoji is not spoken out but it was more to let you know it was in the email.

so when she goes to read it back with the arrow keys she gets the following in the email.

So the example would be I saw a 12today and 12down the street.

She is using Windows 10 and nvda 2021.2. I think she said it also happened in word when she went to review the document where she had inserted them.

Those settings were checked you gave. I have told her what to do about setting to debug level recreating the problem in the program and sending me back the log so I can do a ticket.

She said when some one sends her a email with emojis in it they are spoken out correctly but not in the part where you type stuff inserting a emoji then reading back the email to send it that is where the problem is. She does not have a braille display she is hearing it.

Apparently I have seen 2 or 3 others on the list with the same problem in the thread.

Gene nz

On 29/09/2021 2:13 pm, Quentin Christensen wrote:

On the voice settings page (NVDA+control+v) you want to enable "Include Unicode Consortium data (including emoji) when processing characters and symbols"

From the user guide: https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/userGuide.html#SpeechSettings

"When this checkbox is checked, NVDA will include additional symbol pronunciation dictionaries when pronouncing characters and symbols. These dictionaries contain descriptions for symbols (particularly emoji) that are provided by the Unicode Consortium as part of their Common Locale Data Repository. If you want NVDA to speak descriptions of emoji characters based on this data, you should enable this option. However, if you are using a speech synthesizer that supports speaking emoji descriptions natively, you may wish to turn this off.

Note that manually added or edited character descriptions are saved as part of your user settings. Therefore, if you change the description of a particular emoji, your custom description will be spoken for that emoji regardless of whether this option is enabled. You can add, edit or remove symbol descriptions in NVDA's punctuation/symbol pronunciation dialog.

To toggle Unicode Consortium data inclusion from anywhere, please assign a custom gesture using the Input Gestures dialog."

On Tue, Sep 28, 2021 at 8:42 AM hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

Hi guys


Has any one had the following problem using outlook? when after
inserting a emoji when you go to read back what you have typed in the
email it says 12 instead of the name of the emoji.


They are using windows 10 not sure which version yet and to make sure I
am going to get her to update nvda she might already have I will find
out shortly.


The below is what she said and I have no answer about saying emoji
before it.


But, weirdly, when I select them and read back over that spot it just
says 12 where each one is.  Then if I send the e-mail and someone
replies I can read them if I scroll down to my original e-mail.  Emojis
from other people are reading fine.

Is this a setting I need to change in NVDA or is it something to do with
my rather outdated 2013 version of outlook.  And can I set NVDA to say
emoji when it reads one so I know it isn’t part of the text if it is a
bit random.

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Web: www.nvaccess.org 

Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/

User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Web: www.nvaccess.org 

Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/

User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess