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Re: addon updater

Chris
 

Not only get an error checking for addon updates, also checking for NVDA updates pops up the same error message

 

 

From: Joseph Lee
Sent: 30 September 2021 19:26
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] addon updater

 

Hi,

The author of Add-on Updater himself (I) have experienced this once, and the workaround seems to be to visit addons.nvda-project.org website using your preferred web browser. If NV Access server was offline, chances are that folks would have reported problems with not only Add-on Updater, but NVDA update checks as well, affecting folks who do ask NVDA to check for updates every day. Since it doesn't affect everyone, chances are that the computer (more specifically, the operating system) might be assuming that the web trusts soon to expire security certificate without realizing that it isn't - connecting to websites flagged as secure (such as NV Access website) would inform Windows that the web is safer again.

Cheers,

Joseph

 


Re: addon updater

Mary Otten
 

I just got 3 updates successfully downloaded by using the check for updates in the nvda tools menu. Add on updater, golden cursor and Windows essentials all downloaded and installed without any hitches.


Mary

On 9/30/2021 12:35 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Well interestingly enough when I got home yesterday it worked again but its broken today.



On 1/10/2021 8:23 am, Clement Chou wrote:
I just tried going to the website and running both update checks
again. Still the same error over here.

On 9/30/21, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:
Hi,

The author of Add-on Updater himself (I) have experienced this once, and the
workaround seems to be to visit addons.nvda-project.org website using your
preferred web browser. If NV Access server was offline, chances are that
folks would have reported problems with not only Add-on Updater, but NVDA
update checks as well, affecting folks who do ask NVDA to check for updates
every day. Since it doesn't affect everyone, chances are that the computer
(more specifically, the operating system) might be assuming that the web
trusts soon to expire security certificate without realizing that it isn't -
connecting to websites flagged as secure (such as NV Access website) would
inform Windows that the web is safer again.

Cheers,

Joseph










Calendar Programs

Bhavya shah
 

Dear all,

I use NVDA 2021.2 on a Windows 10 machine. I am aware calendar apps
are typically used on the phone. However, I prefer doing productivity
tasks on my computer. Hence, I am looking for free and accessible
calendar software. I would be happy with something basic that does the
job without many bells and whistles.

I would truly appreciate all suggestions and recommendations on this.

Best Regards,
Bhavya Shah
Stanford University | Class of 2024
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhavyashah125/


Re: addon updater

 

yeah, same to.

Just for completeness.

"start of log dump"

ERROR - stderr (08:34:43.594) - Thread-4 (10356):
Exception in thread Thread-4:
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "C:\Users\shaun\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\addonUpdater\globalPlugins\addonUpdater\addonHandlerEx.py", line 377, in checkForAddonUpdates
    info = checkForAddonUpdate(curAddons)
  File "C:\Users\shaun\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\addonUpdater\globalPlugins\addonUpdater\addonHandlerEx.py", line 324, in checkForAddonUpdate
    raise RuntimeError("Failed to retrieve community add-ons")
RuntimeError: Failed to retrieve community add-ons

During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "threading.pyc", line 926, in _bootstrap_inner
  File "threading.pyc", line 870, in run
  File "C:\Users\shaun\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\addonUpdater\globalPlugins\addonUpdater\addonGuiEx.py", line 62, in addonUpdateCheck
    info = addonHandlerEx.checkForAddonUpdates()
  File "C:\Users\shaun\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\addonUpdater\globalPlugins\addonUpdater\addonHandlerEx.py", line 380, in checkForAddonUpdates
    raise RuntimeError("Cannot check for community add-on updates")
RuntimeError: Cannot check for community add-on updates
ERROR - stderr (08:51:28.728) - Thread-6 (268):
Exception in thread Thread-6:
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "C:\Users\shaun\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\addonUpdater\globalPlugins\addonUpdater\addonHandlerEx.py", line 377, in checkForAddonUpdates
    info = checkForAddonUpdate(curAddons)
  File "C:\Users\shaun\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\addonUpdater\globalPlugins\addonUpdater\addonHandlerEx.py", line 324, in checkForAddonUpdate
    raise RuntimeError("Failed to retrieve community add-ons")
RuntimeError: Failed to retrieve community add-ons

During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "threading.pyc", line 926, in _bootstrap_inner
  File "threading.pyc", line 870, in run
  File "C:\Users\shaun\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\addonUpdater\globalPlugins\addonUpdater\addonGuiEx.py", line 62, in addonUpdateCheck
    info = addonHandlerEx.checkForAddonUpdates()
  File "C:\Users\shaun\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\addonUpdater\globalPlugins\addonUpdater\addonHandlerEx.py", line 380, in checkForAddonUpdates
    raise RuntimeError("Cannot check for community add-on updates")
RuntimeError: Cannot check for community add-on updates

"end of dump"

The same is happening with the main updater but thats not logged either, ie I can't check for updates in nvda.

Note for those reading this, the quoted start and end of dump labels are there so you can skip past the log dump but there it is, no one has dumped this out there but in short yeah.


It happened yesterday, cleared for a few hours, then did it again today.

Since the main site is fine I wander if its a secondary server.

Strangely its not effected anything else though the tv suddenly got an update earlier in the week.

On 1/10/2021 6:08 am, Don H wrote:
Running latest Win 10 and latest NVDA along with what I think is the latest version of the addon updater addon.  When I go to tools in the NVDA UI and run check for addon updates I get a dialog box indicating a error with no info as to what went wrong.




Re: addon updater

 

Well this is all well and good jean, but windows 10 devices, hmph.

I understand maybe xp and consoles.

I think most phones don't use android 2 anymore, but I guess windows xp is literally dead now.

The rest I don't know.

I mean I am still getting updates.

I guess we will have to wait till servers get the new certs.




On 1/10/2021 6:28 am, Gene wrote:
I expect we will see all sorts of traffic on what looks like a serious problem that started today.  I suspect this is one sign.
 
Here is information about the problem.
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Don H
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2021 12:08 PM
Subject: [nvda] addon updater
 
Running latest Win 10 and latest NVDA along with what I think is the
latest version of the addon updater addon.  When I go to tools in the
NVDA UI and run check for addon updates I get a dialog box indicating a
error with no info as to what went wrong.





Re: addon updater

 

Well just out of interest I ran the portable nvda a new one on a test system and still couldn't get the latest check for nvda itself no addons at all so maybe something is screwing up generally.

I have noticed this with some other services so maybe its just due to covid and net use there are overloads at different times of the day or something.

The sites are themselves online or at least their web bits are and github is online so it must be whatever the databases are on which is the issue.

I mean I can send the log, there is this huge exception generated dump of stuff.

Obviously I won't be dumping this to the list because its really long but still.

On 1/10/2021 6:35 am, Clement Chou wrote:
The devices offline would have to be the servers for NVDA then...
because I'm getting the same dialogue box when I check for addon
updates as well as NVDA updates themselves. My internet is working
fine here. :)

On 9/30/21, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
I expect we will see all sorts of traffic on what looks like a serious
problem that started today. I suspect this is one sign.

Here is information about the problem.
https://www.tomsguide.com/news/internet-disconnect-sept-30https://www.tomsguide.com/news/internet-disconnect-sept-30


Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Don H
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2021 12:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] addon updater

Running latest Win 10 and latest NVDA along with what I think is the
latest version of the addon updater addon. When I go to tools in the
NVDA UI and run check for addon updates I get a dialog box indicating a
error with no info as to what went wrong.











Re: addon updater

 

Hmmm I have experienced this on multiple windows 10 computers at multiple locations.

It also effects nvdas own checking for updates and this was on 2 different network previders and 3 computers.

2 of them wireless, one wired, 2 in the same location.

So it can't just be windows, its also effecting the update check in help.

But yeah, who knows could be anything I guess.

Of course its not a showstopper I'll just have to get my updates manually.



On 1/10/2021 7:26 am, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,

The author of Add-on Updater himself (I) have experienced this once, and the workaround seems to be to visit addons.nvda-project.org website using your preferred web browser. If NV Access server was offline, chances are that folks would have reported problems with not only Add-on Updater, but NVDA update checks as well, affecting folks who do ask NVDA to check for updates every day. Since it doesn't affect everyone, chances are that the computer (more specifically, the operating system) might be assuming that the web trusts soon to expire security certificate without realizing that it isn't - connecting to websites flagged as secure (such as NV Access website) would inform Windows that the web is safer again.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: addon updater

 

Well interestingly enough when I got home yesterday it worked again but its broken today.

On 1/10/2021 8:23 am, Clement Chou wrote:
I just tried going to the website and running both update checks
again. Still the same error over here.

On 9/30/21, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:
Hi,

The author of Add-on Updater himself (I) have experienced this once, and the
workaround seems to be to visit addons.nvda-project.org website using your
preferred web browser. If NV Access server was offline, chances are that
folks would have reported problems with not only Add-on Updater, but NVDA
update checks as well, affecting folks who do ask NVDA to check for updates
every day. Since it doesn't affect everyone, chances are that the computer
(more specifically, the operating system) might be assuming that the web
trusts soon to expire security certificate without realizing that it isn't -
connecting to websites flagged as secure (such as NV Access website) would
inform Windows that the web is safer again.

Cheers,

Joseph







Re: must have NVDA add-ons

Carlos Esteban Martínez Macías
 

https://github.com/GerardKessler/WhatsApp-desktop/releases/download/2.2134.10/WhatsApp-desktop-2.2134.10.nvda-addon

Regards

 

Carlos Esteban Martínez Macías.

Soporte a usuarios, comunidad de NVDA en español.

Web: nvda.es

Experto certificado en NVDA

 

De: Akash Kakkar
Enviado: jueves, 30 de septiembre de 2021 13:58
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Asunto: Re: [nvda] must have NVDA add-ons

 

Any link to download the addon for whatsapp desktop?

On 9/30/2021 7:30 PM, Carlos Esteban Martínez Macías via groups.io wrote:

Hi all,

My essentials addons  are Add-on Updater, OBJPad (specially in some apps of Windows 10 and the scan mode), NVDA Remote, Sound Manager, Windows 10 App Essentials and an addon developed in the Spanish Community, WhatsApp Desktop (I help with the translation of this addon to English).

Regards.

 

 

Carlos Esteban Martínez Macías.

Soporte a usuarios, comunidad de NVDA en español.

Web: nvda.es

Experto certificado en NVDA

 

De: Sharad Koirala
Enviado: jueves, 30 de septiembre de 2021 1:32
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Asunto: Re: [nvda] must have NVDA add-ons

 

Hi,

 

In addition to those mentioned above, I would add the clock addon to my list..

Making the computer speak time automatically to you in a certain

interval (30 min in my case) helps keeping you on time.

 

sincerely,

 

On 9/30/21, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:

> True.

> As a general rule, for windows 10, its windows essentials, and addon

> updater.

> However thats about all  I have on the systems I work with.

> I mean I have the emote and symbols stuff just in case and the rest is

> well for the user.

> I'd actually prefer on systems to not have any addons at all

> especially the ones I don't use often, but windows 10 and up needs

> essentials and therefore updater.

> But yeah its really user dependant.

> On 30/09/2021, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

>> Shaun,

>> 

>> Your post is the perfect example of what I said earlier, and that is,

>> what's

>> a "must have" is very often entirely dependent on what you need to do,

>> where, and with what computer(s).

>> 

>> It's still good to see what various folks are using, with brief

>> descriptions

>> of why.

>> --

>> 

>> Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043

>> 

>> Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and

>> conscientious stupidity.

>> 

>> ~Martin Luther King, Jr.

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>

 

 

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Department of Community Medicine

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Re: addon updater

Clement Chou
 

I just tried going to the website and running both update checks
again. Still the same error over here.

On 9/30/21, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:
Hi,

The author of Add-on Updater himself (I) have experienced this once, and the
workaround seems to be to visit addons.nvda-project.org website using your
preferred web browser. If NV Access server was offline, chances are that
folks would have reported problems with not only Add-on Updater, but NVDA
update checks as well, affecting folks who do ask NVDA to check for updates
every day. Since it doesn't affect everyone, chances are that the computer
(more specifically, the operating system) might be assuming that the web
trusts soon to expire security certificate without realizing that it isn't -
connecting to websites flagged as secure (such as NV Access website) would
inform Windows that the web is safer again.

Cheers,

Joseph






Re: Nvda update and addon update not working

Louise Pfau
 

Hi.  I performed a manual check for the updates to the add-ons from Joseph that I have installed yesterday because I wasn’t getting the notification from Add-on Updater.  I checked to make sure that I had “automatic check for updates” checked in the “Add-on Updater” settings panel.  I was able to get the updates.  I just did another manual check now, and no updates are available.  I hope this helps
 
Louise


Re: must have NVDA add-ons

Akash Kakkar
 

Any link to download the addon for whatsapp desktop?

On 9/30/2021 7:30 PM, Carlos Esteban Martínez Macías via groups.io wrote:

Hi all,

My essentials addons  are Add-on Updater, OBJPad (specially in some apps of Windows 10 and the scan mode), NVDA Remote, Sound Manager, Windows 10 App Essentials and an addon developed in the Spanish Community, WhatsApp Desktop (I help with the translation of this addon to English).

Regards.

 

 

Carlos Esteban Martínez Macías.

Soporte a usuarios, comunidad de NVDA en español.

Web: nvda.es

Experto certificado en NVDA

 

De: Sharad Koirala
Enviado: jueves, 30 de septiembre de 2021 1:32
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Asunto: Re: [nvda] must have NVDA add-ons

 

Hi,

 

In addition to those mentioned above, I would add the clock addon to my list..

Making the computer speak time automatically to you in a certain

interval (30 min in my case) helps keeping you on time.

 

sincerely,

 

On 9/30/21, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:

> True.

> As a general rule, for windows 10, its windows essentials, and addon

> updater.

> However thats about all  I have on the systems I work with.

> I mean I have the emote and symbols stuff just in case and the rest is

> well for the user.

> I'd actually prefer on systems to not have any addons at all

> especially the ones I don't use often, but windows 10 and up needs

> essentials and therefore updater.

> But yeah its really user dependant.

> On 30/09/2021, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

>> Shaun,

>> 

>> Your post is the perfect example of what I said earlier, and that is,

>> what's

>> a "must have" is very often entirely dependent on what you need to do,

>> where, and with what computer(s).

>> 

>> It's still good to see what various folks are using, with brief

>> descriptions

>> of why.

>> --

>> 

>> Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043

>> 

>> Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and

>> conscientious stupidity.

>> 

>> ~Martin Luther King, Jr.

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>

 

 

--

Dr. Sharad Koirala

Lecturer

Department of Community Medicine

Gandaki Medical College, Pokhara, Nepal

 

 

 

 

 


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Re: addon updater

 

Hi,

The author of Add-on Updater himself (I) have experienced this once, and the workaround seems to be to visit addons.nvda-project.org website using your preferred web browser. If NV Access server was offline, chances are that folks would have reported problems with not only Add-on Updater, but NVDA update checks as well, affecting folks who do ask NVDA to check for updates every day. Since it doesn't affect everyone, chances are that the computer (more specifically, the operating system) might be assuming that the web trusts soon to expire security certificate without realizing that it isn't - connecting to websites flagged as secure (such as NV Access website) would inform Windows that the web is safer again.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: addon updater

Gene
 

It has nothing to do with anything being off line.  Please read the information, or some of it, at the link I gave. 
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2021 12:35 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] addon updater
 
The devices offline would have to be the servers for NVDA then...
because I'm getting the same dialogue box when I check for addon
updates as well as NVDA updates themselves. My internet is working
fine here. :)

On 9/30/21, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> I expect we will see all sorts of traffic on what looks like a serious
> problem that started today.  I suspect this is one sign.
>
> Here is information about the problem.
> https://www.tomsguide.com/news/internet-disconnect-sept-30https://www.tomsguide.com/news/internet-disconnect-sept-30
>
>
> Gene
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don H
> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2021 12:08 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: [nvda] addon updater
>
> Running latest Win 10 and latest NVDA along with what I think is the
> latest version of the addon updater addon.  When I go to tools in the
> NVDA UI and run check for addon updates I get a dialog box indicating a
> error with no info as to what went wrong.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>





Re: addon updater

Clement Chou
 

The devices offline would have to be the servers for NVDA then...
because I'm getting the same dialogue box when I check for addon
updates as well as NVDA updates themselves. My internet is working
fine here. :)

On 9/30/21, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
I expect we will see all sorts of traffic on what looks like a serious
problem that started today. I suspect this is one sign.

Here is information about the problem.
https://www.tomsguide.com/news/internet-disconnect-sept-30https://www.tomsguide.com/news/internet-disconnect-sept-30


Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Don H
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2021 12:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] addon updater

Running latest Win 10 and latest NVDA along with what I think is the
latest version of the addon updater addon. When I go to tools in the
NVDA UI and run check for addon updates I get a dialog box indicating a
error with no info as to what went wrong.










Re: addon updater

Gene
 

I expect we will see all sorts of traffic on what looks like a serious problem that started today.  I suspect this is one sign.
 
Here is information about the problem.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Don H
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2021 12:08 PM
Subject: [nvda] addon updater
 
Running latest Win 10 and latest NVDA along with what I think is the
latest version of the addon updater addon.  When I go to tools in the
NVDA UI and run check for addon updates I get a dialog box indicating a
error with no info as to what went wrong.





addon updater

Don H
 

Running latest Win 10 and latest NVDA along with what I think is the latest version of the addon updater addon. When I go to tools in the NVDA UI and run check for addon updates I get a dialog box indicating a error with no info as to what went wrong.


Re: must have NVDA add-ons

JinYoun
 

Hi, thank you all for sharing your must haves. I'm still learning how to use the pc with NVDA and it is so nice to see the different add-ons people find  most useful.
Again, thank you for chiming in on this topic. 


Re: Add-On Updater - It is an NVDA Extension, at least for now

JinYoun
 

Wow, thank you very much for these helpful tips. 
Much appreciate it. I'm not very tech savvy and still learning much about using NVDA. 
Cheers 


Re: Eloquence and NVDA: automatic language switching

Gianluigi Coppelletti <gianluigi@...>
 

Thanks Steve,

then I'll ask CodeFactory what to do because it doesn't work for me. Just one more question... do you mean the SAPI5 version that you can use with other screen readers or the addon for NVDA which contains Vocalizer voices as well?

Thanks.

Bye.

Gigi

Il 30/09/2021 18.20, Steve Nutt ha scritto:

Actually CodeFactory SAPI5 Eloquence does have that feature, and it works here.

 

All the best


Steve

 

 

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui Fontes
Sent: 28 September 2021 18:57
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Eloquence and NVDA: automatic language switching

 

If you are talking about Eloquence in SAPI5 it will not have that feature...

I think it is SAPI5 itself that do not have it...

 

Rui Fontes

 

Às 18:06 de 28/09/2021, Ashutosh Singhal escreveu:

In my experience, Espeak can automatically  switch languages but, Neither CodeFactory vocalisers  nor Window one coor voices can automatically change their languages. Sorry, I do not know about CodeFactory eloquence.

 

On Tue, 28 Sept 2021 at 21:48, Gianluigi Coppelletti <gianluigi@...> wrote:

Hi,

I'm testing the demo version of Eloquence by CodeFactory, and when I
visit a web page in a language other than the default one, the
synthesizer doesn't automatically switch to the language of that page.
Obviously the check box concerning the automatic language switching is
checked and with Espeak it works fine.

Am I doing something wrong or this option doesn't work with this version
of Eloquence?

This happens with NVDA 2021.2 Windows 10 and Eloquence 1.11.0 just
downloaded from the official website.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Bye.

Gigi





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