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Josh Kennedy
 

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Re: a speech oddity

Gene
 

You say there is no way to stop them.  What have you done with the speech dictionary?  Do you want the letters just to ve read as letters?  I haven't tried this but try some thing like this as an example.  For Jan. write Jan. in the original field.  I don't recall what that field is called.  In the pronounced as field, write j a n as you see, there is a space between the letters. 
 
Make it case sensative as you go through the dialog if you think or find that matters..  
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 2:58 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] a speech oddity

Could this be something like the problem we get in sappi and other similar
synths were all the US states abbreviations are expanded and there seems no
way to stop them, similarly with imperial measurements and no doubt lots of
other things. Listining to a friends reading machine the other day I found
it quite irritating on UK post codes that NY is expanded to New York for
example.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 12:03 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] a speech oddity


I would think you could change this with the NVDA speech dictionary.  Write
the word to be spoken as you wich in the pronounced as field.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 5:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] a speech oddity


It occurs on my machine as well.  I suspect that somewhere "unch" is set up
as shorthand for "unchanged" and since those four characters precede the
"ecky" we're getting Unchanged-ecky.  If I change the synthesizer to eSpeak
it changes to saying "Unchecky".

I can live with "unchanged ecky" simply because the David voice is very much
preferred by me to most others.
--
Brian


I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's never
enough to keep up.

         ~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in
the Universe"












about for google chrome on nvda problem

Olcay AŞCI
 

Hi

Now there is a bug on Google Chrome with nvda. Especially my son with the next beta. This is a problem specific to me or you have?

 

 

windows 10 posta

 


Re: Kodi, was: Re: [nvda] VLC alternative?

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

I'm not a great fan of self voicing though there are some programs you get it on even if you do not want it. Cicero, Newsbridge to name but two, often I find such things sluggish and because they do not obey the same rules as nvda read content, quite hard to use.
I have recently had to install nvda on a couple of machines which run a program called Guide, which to me is a heap of xxx, but hey, if you don't want to get involved in windows I guess that is up to the user, but when it falls over, none of these people can fix it as they have no knowledge of windows or real screenreaders. Some are already finding that nvda and windows makes things more interesting than their Guide ever did, but as I say, I'm no fan of self voicing. Who remembers Chrome Vox? Ugh.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeremy" <icu8it2@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 4:00 AM
Subject: Kodi, was: Re: [nvda] VLC alternative?


Kodi isn't bad and offers quite a bit in the list of stuff you can do with it, but getting it set up for accessibility can be a little frustrating. Also, it's worth keeping in mind, for those who wish to try it, the accessibility doesn't really allow your screenreader to access the interface for Kodi, it's moreso that the application becomes self-speaking. One big disadvantage to this approach is that some areas of Kodi are inaccessible. If you try to read these areas with NVDA, they are either read as unknown or not read at all.

It does work pretty well for accessing services such as youtube, but one needs to keep in mind that even a basic install of Kodi is pretty bloated, so one may argue it's usefulness if you wanted to use it as a media player for stuff like locally stored music.
it's also worth pointing out that not all of the addons, youtube, pandora, songza, etc work the same or are as accessible. There were a number of addons I tried that had unlabeled buttons, which made using their interfaces pretty weird to get used to.

I really can't speak to any changes that may have been made here recently, as it's been around 9 months since I had it installed, but I would highly recommend playing with it for those who are interested. The fact that the guy that wrote the accessibility plugin has put as much attention towards accessibility always seemed really awesome to me.
Just a few thoughts and hope it helps. :)
Take care.
Brian Vogel wrote:

Lino,

This is not a criticism, in any way, of the Daum Pot Player software since I've not yet played with it, but it's obvious from the Daum Pot Player website <http://daumpotplayer.com/> that it's very roughly translated. Their feature page <http://daumpotplayer.com/features/> notes, "Support of all modern audio and video formats," but doesn't go into any additional detail that I can find.

Has anyone tried Kodi <https://kodi.tv/>? This is open source and I could swear I saw the original recommendation for it on one of the blind technology related forums, but I can't be certain of that at this point since I see my last download on it was in February.

--
*/Brian/*

/*I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you **become it's never enough to keep up.*/

* ~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's **"Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe"*




Re: a speech oddity

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

Could this be something like the problem we get in sappi and other similar synths were all the US states abbreviations are expanded and there seems no way to stop them, similarly with imperial measurements and no doubt lots of other things. Listining to a friends reading machine the other day I found it quite irritating on UK post codes that NY is expanded to New York for example.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 12:03 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] a speech oddity


I would think you could change this with the NVDA speech dictionary. Write the word to be spoken as you wich in the pronounced as field.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 5:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] a speech oddity


It occurs on my machine as well. I suspect that somewhere "unch" is set up as shorthand for "unchanged" and since those four characters precede the "ecky" we're getting Unchanged-ecky. If I change the synthesizer to eSpeak it changes to saying "Unchecky".

I can live with "unchanged ecky" simply because the David voice is very much preferred by me to most others.
--
Brian


I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's never enough to keep up.

~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe"


Re: Kodi, was: Re: [nvda] VLC alternative?

 

I downloaded codi, and might give it a spin. How do you get the accessibility plugin?






On 9/21/2016 11:00 PM, Jeremy wrote:
Kodi isn't bad and offers quite a bit in the list of stuff you can do with it, but getting it set up for accessibility can be a little frustrating. Also, it's worth keeping in mind, for those who wish to try it, the accessibility doesn't really allow your screenreader to access the interface for Kodi, it's moreso that the application becomes self-speaking. One big disadvantage to this approach is that some areas of Kodi are inaccessible. If you try to read these areas with NVDA, they are either read as unknown or not read at all.

It does work pretty well for accessing services such as youtube, but one needs to keep in mind that even a basic install of Kodi is pretty bloated, so one may argue it's usefulness if you wanted to use it as a media player for stuff like locally stored music.
it's also worth pointing out that not all of the addons, youtube, pandora, songza, etc work the same or are as accessible. There were a number of addons I tried that had unlabeled buttons, which made using their interfaces pretty weird to get used to.

I really can't speak to any changes that may have been made here recently, as it's been around 9 months since I had it installed, but I would highly recommend playing with it for those who are interested. The fact that the guy that wrote the accessibility plugin has put as much attention towards accessibility always seemed really awesome to me.
Just a few thoughts and hope it helps. :)
Take care.
Brian Vogel wrote:

Lino,

        This is not a criticism, in any way, of the Daum Pot Player software since I've not yet played with it, but it's obvious from the Daum Pot Player website <http://daumpotplayer.com/> that it's very roughly translated.  Their feature page <http://daumpotplayer.com/features/> notes, "Support of all modern audio and video formats," but doesn't go into any additional detail that I can find.

        Has anyone tried Kodi <https://kodi.tv/>?  This is open source and I could swear I saw the original recommendation for it on one of the blind technology related forums, but I can't be certain of that at this point since I see my last download on it was in February.

-- 
*/Brian/*

/*I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you **become it's never enough to keep up.*/

*         ~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's **"Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe"*









Kodi, was: Re: [nvda] VLC alternative?

jeremy <icu8it2@...>
 

Kodi isn't bad and offers quite a bit in the list of stuff you can do with it, but getting it set up for accessibility can be a little frustrating. Also, it's worth keeping in mind, for those who wish to try it, the accessibility doesn't really allow your screenreader to access the interface for Kodi, it's moreso that the application becomes self-speaking. One big disadvantage to this approach is that some areas of Kodi are inaccessible. If you try to read these areas with NVDA, they are either read as unknown or not read at all.

It does work pretty well for accessing services such as youtube, but one needs to keep in mind that even a basic install of Kodi is pretty bloated, so one may argue it's usefulness if you wanted to use it as a media player for stuff like locally stored music.
it's also worth pointing out that not all of the addons, youtube, pandora, songza, etc work the same or are as accessible. There were a number of addons I tried that had unlabeled buttons, which made using their interfaces pretty weird to get used to.

I really can't speak to any changes that may have been made here recently, as it's been around 9 months since I had it installed, but I would highly recommend playing with it for those who are interested. The fact that the guy that wrote the accessibility plugin has put as much attention towards accessibility always seemed really awesome to me.
Just a few thoughts and hope it helps. :)
Take care.
Brian Vogel wrote:


Lino,

This is not a criticism, in any way, of the Daum Pot Player software since I've not yet played with it, but it's obvious from the Daum Pot Player website <http://daumpotplayer.com/> that it's very roughly translated. Their feature page <http://daumpotplayer.com/features/> notes, "Support of all modern audio and video formats," but doesn't go into any additional detail that I can find.

Has anyone tried Kodi <https://kodi.tv/>? This is open source and I could swear I saw the original recommendation for it on one of the blind technology related forums, but I can't be certain of that at this point since I see my last download on it was in February.

--
*/Brian/*

/*I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you **become it's never enough to keep up.*/

* ~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's **"Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe"*



Re: a speech oddity

Gene
 

I would think you could change this with the NVDA speech dictionary.  Write the word to be spoken as you wich in the pronounced as field.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 5:03 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] a speech oddity

It occurs on my machine as well.  I suspect that somewhere "unch" is set up as shorthand for "unchanged" and since those four characters precede the "ecky" we're getting Unchanged-ecky.  If I change the synthesizer to eSpeak it changes to saying "Unchecky".

I can live with "unchanged ecky" simply because the David voice is very much preferred by me to most others.
--
Brian

I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's never enough to keep up.

         ~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe"

    



Re: VLC alternative?

 

Lino,

        This is not a criticism, in any way, of the Daum Pot Player software since I've not yet played with it, but it's obvious from the Daum Pot Player website that it's very roughly translated.  Their feature page notes, "Support of all modern audio and video formats," but doesn't go into any additional detail that I can find.

        Has anyone tried Kodi?  This is open source and I could swear I saw the original recommendation for it on one of the blind technology related forums, but I can't be certain of that at this point since I see my last download on it was in February.

--
Brian

I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's never enough to keep up.

         ~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe"

    



Re: Antivirus

Pauline Smith
 

Good Evening,


Personally, I wouldn't be in a big hurry to upgrade to Windows 10.  I think that 7 will still be supported for a while.  However, any new computer a person gets will probably have 10 already installed.  So any computer our students get from their rehabilitation counselors will likely have 10 on it.  We will need to be able to teach them how to use that equipment.


Here in the US, a company called Computers for the Blind sells refurbished computers at a reduced price.  They come loaded with NVDA and a demo copy of screen enlargement software for those who need it.  They are now sending those computers with 10 installed.  So, the only reason to upgrade would be for teaching purposes.


Pauline

 


On 9/20/2016 11:28 PM, Gene wrote:
Do you have specific reasons for upgrading to Windows 10?  there are reasons to approach doing so with caution.  I won't go into an in depth discussion now because I don't know why you wanbt to upgrade.  Depending on your answer, I may have more comments. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 10:25 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus

Thank you all for letting me know about Windows Defender.  With this
information, I will consider updating to Win 10 soon.  I think I will
get the MS Accessibility line to help me do this.


Thanks, again for the Defender info.


Pauline



On 9/20/2016 10:52 PM, Arlene wrote:
> Hi, that's what I just said. windows defender does work for ten. >From what I heard it's more accessible with ten then it is for 7.  Yes it works just like MSE from what I heard.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Stanley Haupt
> Sent: September-20-16 7:44 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus
>
> Hello Pauline:
>
> Windows Defender replaces Microsoft Security Essentials.
>
> Stanley
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pauline Smith
> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 10:02 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus
>
> This is one of the reasons I haven't taken the plunge and updated to Windows 10.  I have no clue what antivirus will work.  You can no longer use Security Essentials after Win 7 I don't think.
>
>
> Pauline
>
>
>
> On 9/20/2016 7:59 AM, Salva Doménech Miguel via Groups.io wrote:
>> Hi.
>>
>> I’m now ussing Eset SmartSecurity 9, and it’s a very big shit. The 8 version was more or less accessible but my it upgrades automatically to 9 version. After, I have used Microsoft Security Essentials (a very good antivirus) in Windows 7, but in Windows 10 the Windows Defender locks me some aplications like Utorrent, cause of that i changed to Eset. I’m also looking for a good antivirus for Windows.
>>
>> Cheers.
>>
>>> El 20 sept 2016, a las 13:53, Walmir Schultz via Groups.io <wsautodidata@...> escribió:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>> It seems to me that the antivirus developers are the less accessible-minded people in the software industry.
>>>
>>> Until now I have not found an antivirus that can be used with NVDA. From totally inaccessible right from the installation to barely usable, none of the most famous free antivirus can be used without problems.
>>>
>>> I am using AVG because at least it can be automatically installed with Ninite, but NVDA cannot read the messages dialog, I cannot configure the antivirus and every time I install NVDA I need help from someone cause AVG "don't like" something and NVDA stops responding.
>>>
>>> What are your experiences in this matter?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>





Re: VLC alternative?

Lino Morales
 

What file type does Pothead Player support? I have Media Player Classic on here besides Winamp. I like it..

On 9/21/2016 2:46 PM, Dean Masters wrote:
I also like pot player. all is done from the applications menu but a lot of keystroke are built in also. You can also record what you are listening to through the program.

Dean


-----Original Message----- From: nasrin khaksar
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 7:41 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] VLC alternative?

hi.
i tried vlc and i faced very accessibility issues.
after trying many programs and search in the internet, i found
potplayer the best!
www.daumpotplayer.com

On 9/20/16, RealTalk <realtalk.pr@...> wrote:
I would definitely use Winamp, Foobar2000 works nicely as well, but you have
to do some configuration first.

On Sep 19, 2016, at 3:00 PM, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

Yes, it’s winamp 5.66 Speaking of winamp. How does one make winamp the
default player. I am using windows 7. 64 bit. I know you go to audible and
do it that way. I did that. but when I go to play a file windows media
player still comes up. I want winamp to play. I can’t remember the life
of me how I got winamp to be default. I’m senile. Thanks. I know with this
7 box it gets windows media player stuck in its craw that it has to be
default. When you try to get it to have winamp as default. With my past
computer all I had to do was go to a radio station that used winamp. And
it asked if you wanted winamp as default. I’d say yes then it stayed
winamp. Same with windows media player. But this computer it seems to stay
stuck on windows media player no matter what I do. I’ll have to uninstall
and reinstall winamp hoping that does the trick. Sorry for the long
message.

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Peter
Beasley
Sent: September-19-16 4:41 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] VLC alternative?

or Tom Lorrimer’s website www.whitestick.co.uk

From: Monte Single
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 11:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] VLC alternative?

You can find winamp, I think it is version 5.6 on the audio page of;

www.Jaws-users.com

lots of apps and utils on that website.

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun
Oliver
Sent: September-18-16 3:10 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] VLC alternative?

If you hunt around on the net, you can still aquire winamp and use that.


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robert
Kingett
Sent: Sunday, 18 September 2016 23:46
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] VLC alternative?

I am looking for an NVDA accessible player that can basically play as many
file types as VLC as well as podcasts and internet radio. There are a lot
of inaccessible elements about VLC so does anyone have an alternative?




Re: Antivirus

Arlene
 

Well, whatever floats her boat. If she does get a refurbished 7. That’s great. If she gets ten that’s great too.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: September-20-16 11:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus

 

Are you stating a hypothetical situation or something you know to be the case?  Does she need a new computer?  If so, she may want to get a Windows 10 machine.  But you can get new computers that are not Windows 10 machines.  You can still buy Windows computers that are business machines that have Windows 7 on them.  And you can get refurbished machines from computers for the blind that have Windows 7 on them.  I don't know what Pauline's situation is.  She talked about upgrading to Windows 10.  that kind of phrase is usually used by someone who is considering upgrading an existing computer to Windows 10.  But I don't know what her situation is nor what she has in mind. 

 

I'm not advocating upgrading or not upgrading.  I'm simply saying that Microsoft has offered Windows 10 as a free upgrade and hyped Windows 10.  I've seen enough people who have upgraded and had mild or more serious regrets to simply say that the decision should be considered carefully.  In terms of purchasing a new machine, the person may want to consider her options.  Consideration may produce a different conclusion when purchasing a new machine but again, that may be something the person wants to discuss as well. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Arlene

Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 10:34 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus

 

Gene! Let’s just say Pauline Smith desperately needed a new computer! Her previous computer decides to bite the dust. Then if she did get a new one. It will be windows ten. She would probably would need Windows defender that is like MSE. Now, weather she’d want windows ten or wants to update. She and others who purchase a new computer will have windows ten installed. 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: September-20-16 8:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus

 

Do you have specific reasons for upgrading to Windows 10?  there are reasons to approach doing so with caution.  I won't go into an in depth discussion now because I don't know why you wanbt to upgrade.  Depending on your answer, I may have more comments. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 10:25 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus

 

Thank you all for letting me know about Windows Defender.  With this
information, I will consider updating to Win 10 soon.  I think I will
get the MS Accessibility line to help me do this.


Thanks, again for the Defender info.


Pauline



On 9/20/2016 10:52 PM, Arlene wrote:
> Hi, that's what I just said. windows defender does work for ten. From what I heard it's more accessible with ten then it is for 7.  Yes it works just like MSE from what I heard.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Stanley Haupt
> Sent: September-20-16 7:44 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus
>
> Hello Pauline:
>
> Windows Defender replaces Microsoft Security Essentials.
>
> Stanley
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pauline Smith
> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 10:02 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus
>
> This is one of the reasons I haven't taken the plunge and updated to Windows 10.  I have no clue what antivirus will work.  You can no longer use Security Essentials after Win 7 I don't think.
>
>
> Pauline
>
>
>
> On 9/20/2016 7:59 AM, Salva Doménech Miguel via Groups.io wrote:
>> Hi.
>>
>> I’m now ussing Eset SmartSecurity 9, and it’s a very big shit. The 8 version was more or less accessible but my it upgrades automatically to 9 version. After, I have used Microsoft Security Essentials (a very good antivirus) in Windows 7, but in Windows 10 the Windows Defender locks me some aplications like Utorrent, cause of that i changed to Eset. I’m also looking for a good antivirus for Windows.
>>
>> Cheers.
>>
>>> El 20 sept 2016, a las 13:53, Walmir Schultz via Groups.io <wsautodidata@...> escribió:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>> It seems to me that the antivirus developers are the less accessible-minded people in the software industry.
>>>
>>> Until now I have not found an antivirus that can be used with NVDA. From totally inaccessible right from the installation to barely usable, none of the most famous free antivirus can be used without problems.
>>>
>>> I am using AVG because at least it can be automatically installed with Ninite, but NVDA cannot read the messages dialog, I cannot configure the antivirus and every time I install NVDA I need help from someone cause AVG "don't like" something and NVDA stops responding.
>>>
>>> What are your experiences in this matter?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


Re: Antivirus

Arlene
 

Preach it brother! Win ten was a huge hype! Now that everybody has it or upgraded to it. It wore off. Mind you, I will use ten in a new computer. With this 7 box. I don’t fully trust it. I'll wait until this one dies then go to ten or a mac. I've had this system for 5 years. I'm happy with 7. I don’t need to keep up with every man and his dog!

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: September-20-16 9:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Antivirus

Well one thing all users still on 7 should be happy about especially if you install optionals, an update was released today from microsoft which removes gwx and at least 8 associated updates for win10.
Since updating today my performance has gone up and the hard drive seems to run quieter.
Even though I had stopped gwx from working microsoft is finally leaving us users alone.
In addition, even though they say that win7 is not the top of their game it has been recieving cumulitive updates as optional role ups.
As well as performance updates for dot net among others as well as system file checker fixes to work with that update.
My point is that while small win7 is still being enhanced.
My major bief around 10 was all the hype round and I was right.
Its a nice system to have but now most of the hype is gone we actually find that win10 is not the system that microsoft said it would be and in some cases its even worse.
Give me a desktop any day.



On 21/09/2016 2:02 p.m., Pauline Smith wrote:
This is one of the reasons I haven't taken the plunge and updated to
Windows 10. I have no clue what antivirus will work. You can no
longer use Security Essentials after Win 7 I don't think.


Pauline



On 9/20/2016 7:59 AM, Salva Doménech Miguel via Groups.io wrote:
Hi.

I’m now ussing Eset SmartSecurity 9, and it’s a very big shit. The 8
version was more or less accessible but my it upgrades automatically
to 9 version. After, I have used Microsoft Security Essentials (a
very good antivirus) in Windows 7, but in Windows 10 the Windows
Defender locks me some aplications like Utorrent, cause of that i
changed to Eset. I’m also looking for a good antivirus for Windows.

Cheers.

El 20 sept 2016, a las 13:53, Walmir Schultz via Groups.io
<wsautodidata=yahoo.com.br@groups.io> escribió:

Hi,


It seems to me that the antivirus developers are the less
accessible-minded people in the software industry.

Until now I have not found an antivirus that can be used with NVDA.
From totally inaccessible right from the installation to barely
usable, none of the most famous free antivirus can be used without
problems.

I am using AVG because at least it can be automatically installed
with Ninite, but NVDA cannot read the messages dialog, I cannot
configure the antivirus and every time I install NVDA I need help
from someone cause AVG "don't like" something and NVDA stops responding.

What are your experiences in this matter?









.


Re: a speech oddity

 

It occurs on my machine as well.  I suspect that somewhere "unch" is set up as shorthand for "unchanged" and since those four characters precede the "ecky" we're getting Unchanged-ecky.  If I change the synthesizer to eSpeak it changes to saying "Unchecky".

I can live with "unchanged ecky" simply because the David voice is very much preferred by me to most others.
--
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a speech oddity

Dan Beaver
 

Hi,


I am not sure when this started but it sure is annoying.


I have the unchecky program installed on my windows 10 newest updates system running latest NVDA 2016-3. I am using the MS David voice.


If I open the unchecky program or if I cursor past its name in the apps list NVDA says unchanged ecky instead of saying un checky.


I looked at the three speech dictionaries but there is no entry for unch or unchecky or anything close to it in there.


Anyone else have this issue and does anyone know how to stop this?


Thanks.


Dan Beaver


Moving to Notes in Word

kelby carlson
 

All,

In my work I need to read and edit documents with a very large amount
of endnotes. With JAWS I can quickly bring up a list of endnotes and
get to the first one I need (say, 52). But with NVDA I have to bring
up the endote pain and continuously tab until I find it. Is there a
way to quickly bring up a list of endnotes, or to move to a particular
endnote easily?


Re: Windows 10 app essentials

 

Hi Chris,
Yes, NV Access and Microsoft are aware of this.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris
Mullins
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 12:35 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 app essentials

Yes, it's with speak typed characters enabled. Do I have to raise this as
an issue or is it already logged?

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph
Lee
Sent: 21 September 2016 19:22
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 app essentials

Hi,
This is with NVDA told to speak typed characters, right? If so, this
requires a collaborative fix from both Microsoft and NV Access.
Cheers,
Joseph
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Mullins" <cjmullins29@...
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date sent: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 18:14:01 +0100
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 app essentials

Forgive me if I've got this wrong but I didn't realise this until yesterday
when helping out a friend following the anniversary update, NVDA does not
speak the typed characters when using the Cortana search box and the
Settings search box. I was under the impression, the Windows10AppEssentials
add-on fixed this issue but apparently not. Is the issue being worked on?

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph
Lee
Sent: 21 September 2016 16:28
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 app essentials

Hi,
The author of this add-on is currently composing an add-on internals
document on how this add-on works.
Cheers,
joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ben J.
Bloomgren
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 4:59 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Windows 10 app essentials

Hello all,

I just now installed the windows 10 app essentials addon. So far, I'm
liking what I'm seeing. Is there anywhere where I can get a tutorial on how
it works? I know, I should've done this ages ago.

Ben


Re: Windows 10 app essentials

Chris Mullins
 

Yes, it's with speak typed characters enabled. Do I have to raise this as
an issue or is it already logged?

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph
Lee
Sent: 21 September 2016 19:22
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 app essentials

Hi,
This is with NVDA told to speak typed characters, right? If so, this
requires a collaborative fix from both Microsoft and NV Access.
Cheers,
Joseph
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Mullins" <cjmullins29@...
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date sent: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 18:14:01 +0100
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 app essentials

Forgive me if I've got this wrong but I didn't realise this until yesterday
when helping out a friend following the anniversary update, NVDA does not
speak the typed characters when using the Cortana search box and the
Settings search box. I was under the impression, the Windows10AppEssentials
add-on fixed this issue but apparently not. Is the issue being worked on?

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph
Lee
Sent: 21 September 2016 16:28
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 app essentials

Hi,
The author of this add-on is currently composing an add-on internals
document on how this add-on works.
Cheers,
joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ben J.
Bloomgren
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 4:59 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Windows 10 app essentials

Hello all,

I just now installed the windows 10 app essentials addon. So far, I'm
liking what I'm seeing. Is there anywhere where I can get a tutorial on how
it works? I know, I should've done this ages ago.

Ben


Re: FORMATTING IN EXCEL

Danni
 

Check NVDA settings under document for getting it to read the cell info on the other I can't help! haha I'm using a different program but that's how I got Libre office to tell me the cell letter and number!
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 6:59 AM
Subject: [nvda] FORMATTING IN EXCEL

Hi list

 

I have been wondering whether it would be possible for the NVDA developers to assist me with the following.

 

When working in EXCEL NVDA tells me when I pressed CTRL+B, CTRL+I or CTRL+U. Would it be possible to have NVDA sy “bold, italics or underline”.

 

At our college we often work with students who are real novices on computer and it is important for them to know that they used the correct keystrokes.

 

Something else that poses a slight problem in EXCEL, is that NVDA doesn’t always read the cell address when you navigate with the arrows or ENTER. When there is text in the cell, NVDA usually reads the text and announces the cell address, but when it is blank, dead silence greets me.

 

Please help us.

 

Regards

 

Christo Vorster (Worcester, South Africa)

 

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Re: VLC alternative?

Dean Masters <dwmasters15@...>
 

I also like pot player. all is done from the applications menu but a lot of keystroke are built in also. You can also record what you are listening to through the program.

Dean

-----Original Message-----
From: nasrin khaksar
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 7:41 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] VLC alternative?

hi.
i tried vlc and i faced very accessibility issues.
after trying many programs and search in the internet, i found
potplayer the best!
www.daumpotplayer.com

On 9/20/16, RealTalk <realtalk.pr@...> wrote:
I would definitely use Winamp, Foobar2000 works nicely as well, but you have
to do some configuration first.

On Sep 19, 2016, at 3:00 PM, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

Yes, it’s winamp 5.66 Speaking of winamp. How does one make winamp the
default player. I am using windows 7. 64 bit. I know you go to audible and
do it that way. I did that. but when I go to play a file windows media
player still comes up. I want winamp to play. I can’t remember the life
of me how I got winamp to be default. I’m senile. Thanks. I know with this
7 box it gets windows media player stuck in its craw that it has to be
default. When you try to get it to have winamp as default. With my past
computer all I had to do was go to a radio station that used winamp. And
it asked if you wanted winamp as default. I’d say yes then it stayed
winamp. Same with windows media player. But this computer it seems to stay
stuck on windows media player no matter what I do. I’ll have to uninstall
and reinstall winamp hoping that does the trick. Sorry for the long
message.

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Peter
Beasley
Sent: September-19-16 4:41 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] VLC alternative?

or Tom Lorrimer’s website www.whitestick.co.uk

From: Monte Single
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 11:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] VLC alternative?

You can find winamp, I think it is version 5.6 on the audio page of;

www.Jaws-users.com

lots of apps and utils on that website.

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun
Oliver
Sent: September-18-16 3:10 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] VLC alternative?

If you hunt around on the net, you can still aquire winamp and use that.


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robert
Kingett
Sent: Sunday, 18 September 2016 23:46
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] VLC alternative?

I am looking for an NVDA accessible player that can basically play as many
file types as VLC as well as podcasts and internet radio. There are a lot
of inaccessible elements about VLC so does anyone have an alternative?




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