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Re: Inquiring About Using LogMeIn And Other Remote Access Tools With NVDA

Jim Pemberton
 

Being the manager of a radio station, I have found that NVDA remote is the only really accessible way of remotely controlling a computer.  I’ve tried most of the remote access software out there, and they all either have serious limitations, or just don’t work at all.  Team Viewer sort of works in a pinch, but NVDA remote is the only software I’ve found that allows me to do everything I need to do, and does not require some one to be at the sight of the remote PC to let me in. 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Monday, October 4, 2021 7:50 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Inquiring About Using LogMeIn And Other Remote Access Tools With NVDA

 

I sometimes provide technical support for a sighted friend of my wife to assist her with her computer. Today she asked if I ever used LogMeIn to provide remote assistance. I’ve heard of this software but am wondering if anyone has ever tried using it with NVDA and if it is accessible? If it is not are there other remote access solutions which are recommended. If the NVDA Remote addon is my best solution I’m willing to install it on her machine but I wanted to see if other mainstream solutions were equally accessible.

 

 

David Goldfield,

Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

JAWS Certified, 2019

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Inquiring About Using LogMeIn And Other Remote Access Tools With NVDA

David Goldfield
 

I sometimes provide technical support for a sighted friend of my wife to assist her with her computer. Today she asked if I ever used LogMeIn to provide remote assistance. I’ve heard of this software but am wondering if anyone has ever tried using it with NVDA and if it is accessible? If it is not are there other remote access solutions which are recommended. If the NVDA Remote addon is my best solution I’m willing to install it on her machine but I wanted to see if other mainstream solutions were equally accessible.

 

 

David Goldfield,

Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

JAWS Certified, 2019

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Re: Slide deck prep

Quentin Christensen
 

There is the Microsoft PowerPoint with NVDA training module from NV Access: https://www.nvaccess.org/product/microsoft-powerpoint-with-nvda-ebook/

Available individually, or as part of the NVDA Productivity Bundle: https://www.nvaccess.org/product/nvda-productivity-bundle/

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 2:38 AM Christopher Bartlett <themusicalbrewer@...> wrote:
Are there any good resources on how to use PowerPoint or Google Slides with NVDA to prepare a slide deck for presentation?  I've actually never done this before.

Christopher BArtlett


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Missing option for NLS e-reader braille display?

Shawn
 

Hi, new to the list, though I was on this one or one like it several years ago. I just joined the NLS pilot program for the E-Reader, and my email address can’t seem to get added to their list there, so thought I’d ask here. I’m using NVDA 2021.2, and whether I try using the E-reader as a braille display via USB or Bluetooth, the automatic choice for braille display is always Humanware Brailliant. I understand that that’s the device that the NLS E-Reader was built from, but I know there’s supposed to be a driver or choice called NLS E-Reader, but it just isn’t there. There’s no NLS E-reader choice in the list either, and so I can’t use the braille keys or keyboard to do anything, I can only read the 20 cells around where the NVDA cursor is, controlled with my regular keyboard. It works perfectly with my Iphone, I can navigate and use it as a keyboard as expected, but not with NVDA on Windows 10. I can’t find anywhere to download the correct driver, and the lady from the library has no idea about how to set it up to work with NVDA. Would appreciate any ideas.

Shawn Klein

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 


Re: remote

Jackie
 

Looks like those that followed thru are the initial creators of NVDA
Remote. Good for Christopher & Tyler!

On 10/4/21, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
Could this be another manifestation of the root certificate expiration?

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Pemberton
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2021 3:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] remote

I’ve not been able to connect all day myself. I’m thinking that the NVDA
remote proxy server is down. I know I can set up my own remote server, but
I’m not sure how to do that. Any help would be appreciated, as I need the
remote facility to look after my internet radio station.

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc
Wright godfearer
Sent: Monday, October 4, 2021 3:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] remote



a friend has the remote options set but when he reboots NVDA he is not
connecting to the nvdaremote.com.

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Re: remote

Gene
 

Could this be another manifestation of the root certificate expiration?
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2021 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] remote
 

I’ve not been able to connect all day myself.  I’m thinking that the NVDA remote proxy server is down.  I know I can set up my own remote server, but I’m not sure how to do that.  Any help would be appreciated, as I need the remote facility to look after my internet radio station. 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Monday, October 4, 2021 3:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] remote

 

a friend has the remote options set but when he reboots NVDA he is not connecting to the nvdaremote.com.

**********
checkout my internet station Family times
Music, TV shows, christian radio dramas, cooking shows, books and movies
Just ask your smart speaker to play family times on TuneIn
or click the link below
http://stream.wrighthere.net:8000/stream.mp3

 

Saturdays at 8am MDT on Club House look for the family reading room


Re: remote

 

Jim,

Actually, I was not, and am thrilled to see that someone not only had the idea for such a directory, but followed through with creating it.

I would suggest that those who normally use nvdaremote.com as their relay server look at https://nvra.io/ for alternatives.  Having servers B, C, and D, is always wise.
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Re: remote

Jim Pemberton
 

Brian, my apologies if you are already aware of this, but a quick Google search gave me this result, which may go along with what you’ve just said in this post.  https://nvra.io/

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, October 4, 2021 4:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] remote

 

This could very easily be a spin-off of the other issues on the internet today.

That being said, I have proposed on multiple occasions that we begin to maintain a list of private NVDA Remote servers available for "the public" (which would mostly be members here) to use.  Many have set them up, and if there are not issues related to bandwidth expense, it makes sense to share them for occasions such as this.

I think that nvdaremote.com is actually what I'd call a private server available for the public to connect to.  They exist for myriad purposes, but the volume any one of them would likely get at any time is not likely to be a data tsunami.
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Re: NVDA and excel

 

On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 04:58 PM, Robert Doc Wright godfearer wrote:
But it is just these two cells.
-
Hence the reason for my earlier suggestions, because those 2 cells are not giving me any issue using the file you gave the link to.

You could also try an uninstall/reinstall on NVDA and/or a repair install on Microsoft Office, too.  This is definitely an odd one.
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Re: remote

 

On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 04:59 PM, Robert Doc Wright godfearer wrote:
i wonder what the requirements need to be to point to your own server?
-
Normally I'd tell you to look at nvdaremote.com, as I seem to recall the documentation for setting up your own NVDA Remote server was quite good.

Alas, at the moment, all related to nvdaremote.com is at a standstill.
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The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.

         ~ John F. Kennedy

 


Re: remote

 

This could very easily be a spin-off of the other issues on the internet today.

That being said, I have proposed on multiple occasions that we begin to maintain a list of private NVDA Remote servers available for "the public" (which would mostly be members here) to use.  Many have set them up, and if there are not issues related to bandwidth expense, it makes sense to share them for occasions such as this.

I think that nvdaremote.com is actually what I'd call a private server available for the public to connect to.  They exist for myriad purposes, but the volume any one of them would likely get at any time is not likely to be a data tsunami.
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.

         ~ John F. Kennedy

 


Re: remote

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

i wonder what the requirements need to be to point to your own server?

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, October 4, 2021 2:54 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] remote

I’ve not been able to connect all day myself.  I’m thinking that the NVDA remote proxy server is down.  I know I can set up my own remote server, but I’m not sure how to do that.  Any help would be appreciated, as I need the remote facility to look after my internet radio station. 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Monday, October 4, 2021 3:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] remote

 

a friend has the remote options set but when he reboots NVDA he is not connecting to the nvdaremote.com.

**********
checkout my internet station Family times
Music, TV shows, christian radio dramas, cooking shows, books and movies
Just ask your smart speaker to play family times on TuneIn
or click the link below
http://stream.wrighthere.net:8000/stream.mp3

 

Saturdays at 8am MDT on Club House look for the family reading room


Re: NVDA and excel

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 


But it is just these two cells. the others work just fine. I can press f2 and it lets me arrow through the formula.

----- Original Message -----
From: Rui Fontes
Sent: Monday, October 4, 2021 7:54 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and excel

Before that, please check if Editing on the cell is checked. If so, uncheck.

It is in Excel options, under Editing or Advanced, I don't remember...


Best regards, 
 
Rui Fontes  
NVDA portuguese team  

Às 14:45 de 04/10/2021, Brian Vogel escreveu:
Sorry, Robert, but I can't replicate the problem under Excel 2016, and I did not have it update the file format to xlsx.

If you are using one of the newer (2013 or later) versions of Excel I'd suggest trying a Save As and use the xlsx modern Excel file format rather than compatibility with older versions of Excel then see what happens.

If you're using a version of Office that's 2010 or earlier the time has come to update.
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Re: remote

Jim Pemberton
 

I’ve not been able to connect all day myself.  I’m thinking that the NVDA remote proxy server is down.  I know I can set up my own remote server, but I’m not sure how to do that.  Any help would be appreciated, as I need the remote facility to look after my internet radio station. 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Monday, October 4, 2021 3:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] remote

 

a friend has the remote options set but when he reboots NVDA he is not connecting to the nvdaremote.com.

**********
checkout my internet station Family times
Music, TV shows, christian radio dramas, cooking shows, books and movies
Just ask your smart speaker to play family times on TuneIn
or click the link below
http://stream.wrighthere.net:8000/stream.mp3

 

Saturdays at 8am MDT on Club House look for the family reading room


Re: Is there a way to control click (select) with NVDA?

Life in Six Dots
 

I’ll second “Really Simple SSL”.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Monday, 04 October 2021 18:10
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is there a way to control click (select) with NVDA?

 

Well

I use this plugin.

Really Simple SSL

You don't need to direct anything its going to do it for you.

Your previder does need an updated cert and you have to be able to manually or automatically be able to keep that updated but as far as I understand it you just plug and play.

I have certainly had no issues with that plugin.

 

 

On 5/10/2021 2:53 am, Joshua Tubbs wrote:

I am trying to do 301 redirects to support HTTPS on my WordPress site. A guide I came across suggests using the Better Search Replace plugin to edit the URLs in the database tables from HTTP to HTTPS. However, the plugin has an unconventional list box with the tables in it and it says to control click on Windows to select multiple tables.

Is there any way to do this with NVDA, or is this just an inaccessible list box element and I need to find some other obscure way no doubt.

Thanks.


remote

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

a friend has the remote options set but when he reboots NVDA he is not connecting to the nvdaremote.com.
**********
checkout my internet station Family times
Music, TV shows, christian radio dramas, cooking shows, books and movies
Just ask your smart speaker to play family times on TuneIn
or click the link below
http://stream.wrighthere.net:8000/stream.mp3
 
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Re: Making NVDA pronounce letters phonetically

Rui Fontes
 

No, so far, the page with more add-ons, oficial or not, is www.nvda.es.


Rui Fontes


Às 20:26 de 04/10/2021, Sarah k Alawami escreveu:

I actually mean this link. That is a repo for all addons official and nonofficial.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui Fontes
Sent: Monday, October 4, 2021 12:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Making NVDA pronounce letters phonetically

 

No, this one cames from my personal collection...

As far as I know, it is not yet oficially updated...

 

Rui Fontes

 

Às 18:13 de 04/10/2021, Sarah k Alawami escreveu:

Is this on the nvda add ons site, the one that lists *all* add ons which I cant’ remember now? The one someone so kindly put together?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui Fontes
Sent: Monday, October 4, 2021 9:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Making NVDA pronounce letters phonetically

 

What the user wants is that NVDA announces automatically the phonetic alphabet.

 

He must use this add-on:

Author: David CM
Add-on name: Enhanced Phonetic Reading
Description: This add-on add some features to phonetic reading as the following:
announce the character description for the last read character after n milliseconds when the character was read by character review commands, E.G. left and right arrow keys, left, current or right character review commands, ETC.
Read the character description instead of the current character. This feature must be enabled or disabled manually and will be deactivated when NVDA is closed.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3q51767illr4gia/EnhancedPhoneticReading_0.5a2_Gen.nvda-addon?dl=1


Rui Fontes

NVDA portuguese team

 

Às 05:18 de 04/10/2021, Quentin Christensen escreveu:

Hi Sameer,

 

NVDA can give you phonetic pronunciation, but the execution is slightly different.  If you press many NVDA keystrokes once, they will read the information, twice quickly spells it, and three times quickly spells it phonetically.  For instance, if you press NVDA+up arrow (or NVDA+l if using laptop keyboard layout), NVDA will read the current line.  If you press it twice quickly, it will spell the current line, and if you press it three times quickly it will spell it phonetically.

 

For words, press numpad 5 or NVDA+control+dot

For the current character, press numpad 2 or NVDA+dot

 

(For those thinking ahead, yes they report the word or character at the review cursor, but anyone not already familiar with that probably isn't moving the review cursor independently of the caret too often).

 

Quentin.

 

On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 2:49 PM Sameer Latey <salatey@...> wrote:


Dear List Members,


In JAWS, if the user stays on a letter for 5 seconds, JAWS will speak
the letter phonetically. For example, if the user stays on the letter G
in the word God, JAWS will first read G & after 5 seconds, say Golf.


Is there a similar setting or add-on in NVDA?


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Regards
Sameer Latey




 

 

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Re: getting the word on the web to read wiht nvda?

Sarah k Alawami
 

Yep, I just talked to the person, we’ll find a way to make the page more accessible next time. I’m sure there is a way. This is where my knowledge ends, but he is willing to work with us which is good. He will make sure   we can read the routing before the event.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, October 4, 2021 10:24 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] getting the word on the web to read wiht nvda?

 

On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 01:11 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

If that is the case,  how was I able to read the document  via OCR?

-
Because what can be seen, literally, is more than clear enough to run OCR processing on.
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Re: Making NVDA pronounce letters phonetically

Sarah k Alawami
 

I actually mean this link. That is a repo for all addons official and nonofficial.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui Fontes
Sent: Monday, October 4, 2021 12:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Making NVDA pronounce letters phonetically

 

No, this one cames from my personal collection...

As far as I know, it is not yet oficially updated...

 

Rui Fontes

 

Às 18:13 de 04/10/2021, Sarah k Alawami escreveu:

Is this on the nvda add ons site, the one that lists *all* add ons which I cant’ remember now? The one someone so kindly put together?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui Fontes
Sent: Monday, October 4, 2021 9:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Making NVDA pronounce letters phonetically

 

What the user wants is that NVDA announces automatically the phonetic alphabet.

 

He must use this add-on:

Author: David CM
Add-on name: Enhanced Phonetic Reading
Description: This add-on add some features to phonetic reading as the following:
announce the character description for the last read character after n milliseconds when the character was read by character review commands, E.G. left and right arrow keys, left, current or right character review commands, ETC.
Read the character description instead of the current character. This feature must be enabled or disabled manually and will be deactivated when NVDA is closed.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3q51767illr4gia/EnhancedPhoneticReading_0.5a2_Gen.nvda-addon?dl=1


Rui Fontes

NVDA portuguese team

 

Às 05:18 de 04/10/2021, Quentin Christensen escreveu:

Hi Sameer,

 

NVDA can give you phonetic pronunciation, but the execution is slightly different.  If you press many NVDA keystrokes once, they will read the information, twice quickly spells it, and three times quickly spells it phonetically.  For instance, if you press NVDA+up arrow (or NVDA+l if using laptop keyboard layout), NVDA will read the current line.  If you press it twice quickly, it will spell the current line, and if you press it three times quickly it will spell it phonetically.

 

For words, press numpad 5 or NVDA+control+dot

For the current character, press numpad 2 or NVDA+dot

 

(For those thinking ahead, yes they report the word or character at the review cursor, but anyone not already familiar with that probably isn't moving the review cursor independently of the caret too often).

 

Quentin.

 

On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 2:49 PM Sameer Latey <salatey@...> wrote:


Dear List Members,


In JAWS, if the user stays on a letter for 5 seconds, JAWS will speak
the letter phonetically. For example, if the user stays on the letter G
in the word God, JAWS will first read G & after 5 seconds, say Golf.


Is there a similar setting or add-on in NVDA?


--

Regards
Sameer Latey




 

 

--

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Training and Support Manager

 


Re: Making NVDA pronounce letters phonetically

Rui Fontes
 

No, this one cames from my personal collection...

As far as I know, it is not yet oficially updated...


Rui Fontes


Às 18:13 de 04/10/2021, Sarah k Alawami escreveu:

Is this on the nvda add ons site, the one that lists *all* add ons which I cant’ remember now? The one someone so kindly put together?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui Fontes
Sent: Monday, October 4, 2021 9:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Making NVDA pronounce letters phonetically

 

What the user wants is that NVDA announces automatically the phonetic alphabet.

 

He must use this add-on:

Author: David CM
Add-on name: Enhanced Phonetic Reading
Description: This add-on add some features to phonetic reading as the following:
announce the character description for the last read character after n milliseconds when the character was read by character review commands, E.G. left and right arrow keys, left, current or right character review commands, ETC.
Read the character description instead of the current character. This feature must be enabled or disabled manually and will be deactivated when NVDA is closed.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3q51767illr4gia/EnhancedPhoneticReading_0.5a2_Gen.nvda-addon?dl=1


Rui Fontes

NVDA portuguese team

 

Às 05:18 de 04/10/2021, Quentin Christensen escreveu:

Hi Sameer,

 

NVDA can give you phonetic pronunciation, but the execution is slightly different.  If you press many NVDA keystrokes once, they will read the information, twice quickly spells it, and three times quickly spells it phonetically.  For instance, if you press NVDA+up arrow (or NVDA+l if using laptop keyboard layout), NVDA will read the current line.  If you press it twice quickly, it will spell the current line, and if you press it three times quickly it will spell it phonetically.

 

For words, press numpad 5 or NVDA+control+dot

For the current character, press numpad 2 or NVDA+dot

 

(For those thinking ahead, yes they report the word or character at the review cursor, but anyone not already familiar with that probably isn't moving the review cursor independently of the caret too often).

 

Quentin.

 

On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 2:49 PM Sameer Latey <salatey@...> wrote:


Dear List Members,


In JAWS, if the user stays on a letter for 5 seconds, JAWS will speak
the letter phonetically. For example, if the user stays on the letter G
in the word God, JAWS will first read G & after 5 seconds, say Golf.


Is there a similar setting or add-on in NVDA?


--

Regards
Sameer Latey





 

 

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Training and Support Manager

 

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