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Re: Windows 11 system tray: use grouped icons
Arlene
Oh, it does? You’d probably read it differently then windows. For example you can either do incert f 11 or windows B. I use windows b all the time. With NVDA you have to use windows B not insert f 11 With other screen readers such as Jaws and others you can use insert f 11.
Sent from Mail for Windows
From: Sky Mundell
Sent: October 5, 2021 11:57 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 11 system tray: use grouped icons
Yes mac does have a system tray.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arlene
Seriously? Ali, that’s strange. I believe you about the system tray. Is Microsoft seriously trying to be like Apple? Not sure about apple, I know people who use it. I’ll ask if it has a system tray like Windows.
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From: Ali Savas
Hello all,
I have read that with Windows 11 it is no longer possible to display all icons in the system tray. I guess the icons are only shown grouped and only expanded as soon as you move the mouse over them.
Are the grouped icons still usable with NVDA?
Thanks in advance for your answer.
Many greetings Ali
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Re: Add-on Updater 21.10 (mandatory update) released
#addonrelease
Hi Joseph,
After entering the line, it does work as usual. I'm working with NVDA2021.2. Thanks!
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Re: Windows 11 system tray: use grouped icons
Sky Mundell
Yes mac does have a system tray.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Tuesday, October 5, 2021 11:21 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 11 system tray: use grouped icons
Seriously? Ali, that’s strange. I believe you about the system tray. Is Microsoft seriously trying to be like Apple? Not sure about apple, I know people who use it. I’ll ask if it has a system tray like Windows.
Sent from Mail for Windows
From: Ali Savas
Hello all,
I have read that with Windows 11 it is no longer possible to display all icons in the system tray. I guess the icons are only shown grouped and only expanded as soon as you move the mouse over them.
Are the grouped icons still usable with NVDA?
Thanks in advance for your answer.
Many greetings Ali
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Re: Windows 11 system tray: use grouped icons
Gene
The first thing I would want to know is where you read this. I have no
opinion about whether it is correct, but I’m very careful about what sources I
trust information from in cases like this.
Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Ali
Savas
Hello all,
I have read that with Windows 11 it is no longer possible to display all icons in the system tray. I guess the icons are only shown grouped and only expanded as soon as you move the mouse over them.
Are the grouped icons still usable with NVDA?
Thanks in advance for your answer.
Many greetings Ali
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Re: Windows 11 system tray: use grouped icons
Arlene
Seriously? Ali, that’s strange. I believe you about the system tray. Is Microsoft seriously trying to be like Apple? Not sure about apple, I know people who use it. I’ll ask if it has a system tray like Windows.
Sent from Mail for Windows
From: Ali Savas
Sent: October 5, 2021 10:58 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Windows 11 system tray: use grouped icons
Hello all,
I have read that with Windows 11 it is no longer possible to display all icons in the system tray. I guess the icons are only shown grouped and only expanded as soon as you move the mouse over them.
Are the grouped icons still usable with NVDA?
Thanks in advance for your answer.
Many greetings Ali
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Windows 11 system tray: use grouped icons
Ali Savas
Hello all,
I have read that with Windows 11 it is no longer possible to display all icons in the system tray. I guess the icons are only shown grouped and only expanded as soon as you move the mouse over them. Are the grouped icons still usable with NVDA? Thanks in advance for your answer. Many greetings Ali
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Re: Does NVDA speak Arabic?
Shawn
I don’t speak Arabic, I’ve learned a handful of words from watching vids, but if I want to look at Arabic text, i.e. videos on Youtube or song titles, I prefer Persian. Espeak’s Arabic sounds awful and incomprehensible. Some of ESpeak’s languages aren’t too bad, but IMHO it’s Arabic is atrocious, and Hawaiian was a big distorted disappointment. Shawn Klein Sent from Mail for Windows
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, October 5, 2021 11:23 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Does NVDA speak Arabic?
E-Speak supports Arabic, but I’m not sure to what extent. Wikipedia says, “Currently, only fully diacritized Arabic is supported.” Since I don’t know how Arabic is written, I don’t know what sort of limitation that imposes.
A lot of people don’t like E-Speak but it is something you may want to try.
Gene
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Re: Inquiring About Using LogMeIn And Other Remote Access Tools With NVDA
Rui Fontes
Why you do not configure NVDA in the
client machine to No Speech?
Rui Fontes
Às 09:52 de 05/10/2021, Charles Adkins
escreveu:
I agree. I also am director of broadcast operations at severl stations and have found NVDA works best. Only thing though, I have to explain to people why the computer may just start talking alot without them doing anything lol!!!
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Re: Does NVDA speak Arabic?
Gene
E-Speak supports Arabic, but I’m not sure to what extent. Wikipedia
says, “Currently, only fully diacritized Arabic is supported.”
Since I don’t know how Arabic is written, I don’t know what sort of
limitation that imposes.
A lot of people don’t like E-Speak but it is something you
may want to try.
Gene
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Re: Does NVDA speak Arabic?
Ann,
Not being a speaker of Arabic, I have no idea how much dialectal differences may matter, but two of the Microsoft One Core voices, Egyptian Arabic and Saudi Arabian Arabic, that are free under Windows 10 do have text-to-speech capability. The other Arabic dialects do not. -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043 The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all. ~ John F. Kennedy
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Re: Add-on Updater 21.10 (mandatory update) released
#addonrelease
Hi all, Add-on Updater 21.10 is now being offered to Add-on Updater users. Note that if you still receive a message that says "error checking for add-on updates" when checking for add-on updates, you MUST install Add-on Updater 21.10 manually. Cheers, Joseph
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Re: remote
Chris Mullins
Hi Thanks for sharing this information with the NVDA community. NVDA Remote is an excellent resource but since V2.4, I have had connectivity issues with it using nvdaremote.com but I didn’t know about these alternative servers. Regarding the narrative about latency and distance between the connected computers on the nvra.io site, nvdaremote.com could still be the shortest route for some users but it’s location is not specified. Could this be added to the site?
Cheers Chris
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From: Jackie
Sent: 04 October 2021 23:02 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] remot e
Looks like those that followed thru are the initial creators of NVDA Remote. Good for Christopher & Tyler!
On 10/4/21, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote: > Could this be another manifestation of the root certificate expiration? > > Gene > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Pemberton > Sent: Monday, October 04, 2021 3:54 PM > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: Re: [nvda] remote > > I’ve not been able to connect all day myself. I’m thinking that the NVDA > remote proxy server is down. I know I can set up my own remote server, but > I’m not sure how to do that. Any help would be appreciated, as I need the > remote facility to look after my internet radio station. > > From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc > Wright godfearer > Sent: Monday, October 4, 2021 3:32 PM > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: [nvda] remote > > > > a friend has the remote options set but when he reboots NVDA he is not > connecting to the nvdaremote.com. > > ********** > checkout my internet station Family times > Music, TV shows, christian radio dramas, cooking shows, books and movies > Just ask your smart speaker to play family times on TuneIn > or click the link below > http://stream.wrighthere.net:8000/stream.mp3 > > > > Saturdays at 8am MDT on Club House look for the family reading room > > > > > > > >
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Re: remote
Christopher Duffley
My apologies on misspelling the Github link! It actually is:
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Thanks, Christopher Duffley Host of Mission Possible Podcast: http://www.missionpossiblepodcast.com Cell: +1 (603) 851-6971 12 Pro Max
On Oct 4, 2021, at 16:59, Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@...> wrote:
i wonder what the requirements need to be to point
to your own server?
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Re: remote
Christopher Duffley
Hey Robert,
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It's actually not that hard to do, if you have the technical knowhow and can forward a port on your router or Windows Firewall. The server implementation I recommend and which works extremely well for me, both Windows and Linux, is: https://github.com/jdmaweb/NVDARemoteServer There's a readme file on the page, at heading level 1, that has a "Building" heading so that you can see how to build it. If you have good enough experience with the command line, this should not be a problem for you. If you'd like to point your IP to a domain, your best option for the free route is to use something like no-ip.org or duckdns.org which will let you point an IP address to a subdomain of your choosing. Brian, regarding your message about remote servers, all of you can please go ahead and add unlimitedhoperadio.com to your known hosts. This is one that I put up not only so I can control my own machines while I'm away from them or just to have them on there as controlled machines, but for this very reason, in the event that anyone needs an extra host out of Newark, New Jersey in the United States to go to if necessary. Christopher Duffley Host of Mission Possible Podcast: http://www.missionpossiblepodcast.com Cell: +1 (603) 851-6971 12 Pro Max
On Oct 4, 2021, at 16:59, Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@...> wrote:
i wonder what the requirements need to be to point
to your own server?
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Re: Inquiring About Using LogMeIn And Other Remote Access Tools With NVDA
Charles Adkins <cadkins6739@...>
I agree. I also am director of broadcast operations at severl stations and have found NVDA works best. Only thing though, I have to explain to people why the computer may just start talking alot without them doing anything lol!!!
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On Oct 4, 2021, at 9:03 PM, Jim Pemberton <pemby@...> wrote:
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Re: remote
Steve Nutt
Hi,
I don’t use NVDA Remote at all to remote into any machine, I use RDP, Remote Desktop Protocol, then run Narrator on the host machine.
That seems accessible, if the host is configured correctly.
Heck, I can even run NVDA via RDP.
All the best
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Pemberton
Sent: 04 October 2021 21:55 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] remote
I’ve not been able to connect all day myself. I’m thinking that the NVDA remote proxy server is down. I know I can set up my own remote server, but I’m not sure how to do that. Any help would be appreciated, as I need the remote facility to look after my internet radio station. From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
a friend has the remote options set but when he reboots NVDA he is not connecting to the nvdaremote.com. **********
Saturdays at 8am MDT on Club House look for the family reading room
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Re: NVDA on windows arm
mattias
Oops found a topic..
Skickades från E-post för Windows
Från: mattias via groups.io
Anyone tryed? Seems windows arm allow runnin x86 code
Skickades från E-post för Windows
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NVDA on windows arm
mattias
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Re: How do I Stop NVDA from saying Blank when I arrow down in a document or email
Gene
As I recall, someone mentioned an add-on today that skipps blank llines
when using read to end in browse mode. So using that should eliminate some
of the problem. You may be able to skip blank lines with the add-on while
having the convenience of using read to end. I don’t use it and others can
discuss it, but as I recall, there is a skim feature that allows you to skip to
the next line or skip a block of links by using down arrow while in read to end
to skip to the next line and n to skip blocks of links while resuming reading in
read to end. You can move as you would when not in read to end and have
reading continue without having to issue read to end again.
Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: David Griffith
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2021 11:24 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How do I Stop NVDA from saying Blank when I
arrow down in a document or email Just to explain why read to end is not, as is often suggested, really a resolution for this issue. If I am reading and email with say multiple links of 200 characters or more, or obscure graphic descripters, or perhaps obscure table layouts if you need some table verbosity, the last thing you want your screenreader to do is to tediously babble through all these verbose elements of an email in a read to end sequence. You need in these circumstances to quickly skip through all this by simply pressing the down arrow to read through an email efficiently and skip all the verbose link / elelment description whilst being aware it is there if you need to go back and review.
David Griffith
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From: Gene
It should be able to be done but is there a reason you don’t use read to end in e-mails? Read to end doesn’t announce blank lines and starts reading the text skipping all blank lines if there are any.
Also, what program are you using for e-mail and are you reading mail in plain text or HTML?
Gene -----Original Message----- From: Luke Robinett Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2021 7:11 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] How do I Stop NVDA from saying Blank when I arrow down in a document or email
Thank you for bringing this up! It’s something that frequently irritates me but because it tends to happen during the midst of my work day, I forget to jot it down as a thing to explore here on the message board after work. What would really be ideal is an option in NVDA settings that would cause the NVDA cursor to simply bypass blank lines. Sometimes when trying to read an email in outlook I have to press the down arrow well over a dozen times just to get to the first non-blank text. Control down arrow is supposed to take you to the next block but this doesn’t work, either. There’s no Practical reason why a user would want to sit there pounding the down arrow like a trained monkey just hearing the word ”blank” over and over and over LOL. it’s a mindless but seemingly unavoidable waste of time.
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Re: How do I Stop NVDA from saying Blank when I arrow down in a document or email
David Griffith
Just to explain why read to end is not, as is often suggested, really a resolution for this issue. If I am reading and email with say multiple links of 200 characters or more, or obscure graphic descripters, or perhaps obscure table layouts if you need some table verbosity, the last thing you want your screenreader to do is to tediously babble through all these verbose elements of an email in a read to end sequence. You need in these circumstances to quickly skip through all this by simply pressing the down arrow to read through an email efficiently and skip all the verbose link / elelment description whilst being aware it is there if you need to go back and review.
David Griffith
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From: Gene
Sent: 04 October 2021 02:18 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] How do I Stop NVDA from saying Blank when I arrow down in a document or email
It should be able to be done but is there a reason you don’t use read to end in e-mails? Read to end doesn’t announce blank lines and starts reading the text skipping all blank lines if there are any.
Also, what program are you using for e-mail and are you reading mail in plain text or HTML?
Gene -----Original Message----- From: Luke Robinett Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2021 7:11 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] How do I Stop NVDA from saying Blank when I arrow down in a document or email
Thank you for bringing this up! It’s something that frequently irritates me but because it tends to happen during the midst of my work day, I forget to jot it down as a thing to explore here on the message board after work. What would really be ideal is an option in NVDA settings that would cause the NVDA cursor to simply bypass blank lines. Sometimes when trying to read an email in outlook I have to press the down arrow well over a dozen times just to get to the first non-blank text. Control down arrow is supposed to take you to the next block but this doesn’t work, either. There’s no Practical reason why a user would want to sit there pounding the down arrow like a trained monkey just hearing the word ”blank” over and over and over LOL. it’s a mindless but seemingly unavoidable waste of time.
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