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Re: New and apparent lag with NVDA in File Explorer, and an Introducion

cisco
 

Hello there,

 

This happens to me on every drive, regardless of what kind of drive it is.

I’m running on a SSD now, and I optimize and trim it every week.

All my things work fine, it’s just the lag.

Best regards.

Francisco.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shawn via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, October 9, 2021 5:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New and apparent lag with NVDA in File Explorer, and an Introducion

 

Hi Francisco, I’ve had this problem various times with various computers intermittently going back to at least Windows 7. Sometimes defragging the harddrives helps. Does it happen on all drives? Does it happen on thumb drives? Does it only happen on a USB-connected external drive? It could mean your drive is on it’s way out and needs chkdsk run on it desperately as well, and you may need to clean the dust out of your machine physically, dust causes it to overheat. Does this happen with narrator or JFW if you have it?

Shawn Klein

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From: cisco
Sent: Saturday, October 9, 2021 10:23 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] New and apparent lag with NVDA in File Explorer, and an Introducion

 

Hello everyone,

 

My name’s Francisco, I’m a highschool student who has been using NVDA since circa 2014.

I use NVDA daily for an array of things, from homework, to entertainment and so on.

Enough about me, here is the problem I am facing:

Both in Windows 10 and 11, which I’m currently using, NvDA lags behind when navigating folders and files in File Explorer.

Half a second to a second passes from when I press up or down arrow, to when NVDA announces the item under the cursor.

As you can probably imagine, it can get quite annoying at times, particulary when I’m trying to be quick about opening a file.

First letter navigation helps, but having a lot of files starting with the same letters doesn’t help as much, just to balance out things.

My question is, has anyone experienced this kind of behavior when using NvDA? If so, how did you fix it?

If you don’t use file explorer and use an alternative, what would you recommend?

Thank you for any answer.

Have a good day.

Best regards.

Francisco.

 


Re: New and apparent lag with NVDA in File Explorer, and an Introducion

Shawn
 

Hi Francisco, I’ve had this problem various times with various computers intermittently going back to at least Windows 7. Sometimes defragging the harddrives helps. Does it happen on all drives? Does it happen on thumb drives? Does it only happen on a USB-connected external drive? It could mean your drive is on it’s way out and needs chkdsk run on it desperately as well, and you may need to clean the dust out of your machine physically, dust causes it to overheat. Does this happen with narrator or JFW if you have it?

Shawn Klein

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: cisco
Sent: Saturday, October 9, 2021 10:23 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] New and apparent lag with NVDA in File Explorer, and an Introducion

 

Hello everyone,

 

My name’s Francisco, I’m a highschool student who has been using NVDA since circa 2014.

I use NVDA daily for an array of things, from homework, to entertainment and so on.

Enough about me, here is the problem I am facing:

Both in Windows 10 and 11, which I’m currently using, NvDA lags behind when navigating folders and files in File Explorer.

Half a second to a second passes from when I press up or down arrow, to when NVDA announces the item under the cursor.

As you can probably imagine, it can get quite annoying at times, particulary when I’m trying to be quick about opening a file.

First letter navigation helps, but having a lot of files starting with the same letters doesn’t help as much, just to balance out things.

My question is, has anyone experienced this kind of behavior when using NvDA? If so, how did you fix it?

If you don’t use file explorer and use an alternative, what would you recommend?

Thank you for any answer.

Have a good day.

Best regards.

Francisco.

 


Re: Browse Mode single letter quick navigation shortcuts

 

Thanks Gene.

As a general note, pretty much any directive of the form, "Restart NVDA with {insert special case action here, e.g., add-ons disabled or debug logging enabled}," is done through the Exit NVDA dialog, using the dropdown you previously mentioned.

These can be done, along with other things, using command line options when starting NVDA but most users don't ever touch the command line, so the commonly requested things that need doing under certain circumstances are included in the Exit NVDA dialog.

Of course, when you use them, NVDA exits and immediately restarts, as opposed to just exiting when the default choice, Exit, is what's selected in that dropdown box.
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.

         ~ John F. Kennedy

 


New and apparent lag with NVDA in File Explorer, and an Introducion

cisco
 

Hello everyone,

 

My name’s Francisco, I’m a highschool student who has been using NVDA since circa 2014.

I use NVDA daily for an array of things, from homework, to entertainment and so on.

Enough about me, here is the problem I am facing:

Both in Windows 10 and 11, which I’m currently using, NvDA lags behind when navigating folders and files in File Explorer.

Half a second to a second passes from when I press up or down arrow, to when NVDA announces the item under the cursor.

As you can probably imagine, it can get quite annoying at times, particulary when I’m trying to be quick about opening a file.

First letter navigation helps, but having a lot of files starting with the same letters doesn’t help as much, just to balance out things.

My question is, has anyone experienced this kind of behavior when using NvDA? If so, how did you fix it?

If you don’t use file explorer and use an alternative, what would you recommend?

Thank you for any answer.

Have a good day.

Best regards.

Francisco.


Re: Browse Mode single letter quick navigation shortcuts

Gene
 

I’m not Brian but I was curious about the question.  I didn’t know this was in the exit NVDA dialog.  If you issue the command NVDA key q, you will be in a combo box.  You are on shut down when it opens.  If you down arrow, you will find a number of, at times, important options for how NVDA restarts.  The last one is restart with debug logging enabled.  These restart options only affect how NVDA restarts the one time you press enter on the item you want to be carried out. 
 
Gene. 

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2021 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Browse Mode single letter quick navigation shortcuts
 

Hi brian

 

Which one it is the debug please?

Thanks in advance

 

Anthony

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: 08 October 2021 18:27
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Browse Mode single letter quick navigation shortcuts

 

At the end of it all, it's worth taking The Most Basic Troubleshooting Steps for Suspected NVDA Issues
and filing an issue if the problem remains.  And from what has passed earlier in this topic it appears that most, if not all, of those steps have been taken as well as a few more.  If my suggestion about clearing browser cache has not been taken, please do take it, as it's simple and it eliminates another possible factor.

In a case like this, if you've already been thorough about all the basic troubleshooting steps, plus more, I'd also suggest that you:
1. restart NVDA with debug level logging enabled
2. do whatever it is you need to do to reproduce the problem
3. once you've encountered that problem hit NVDA + F1 to open log viewer, select everything, copy the entire log to a new file in Notepad, and save it.
4. Include that log file as part of your issue report.  If memory serves it can be attached.  If not, complete the issue report, and then immediately comment on your own issue, pasting the log file in as the comment.

See: Creating an Issue in GitHub for NVDA
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The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.

         ~ John F. Kennedy

 


Re: Browse Mode single letter quick navigation shortcuts

anthony borg
 

Hi brian

 

Which one it is the debug please?

Thanks in advance

 

Anthony

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: 08 October 2021 18:27
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Browse Mode single letter quick navigation shortcuts

 

At the end of it all, it's worth taking The Most Basic Troubleshooting Steps for Suspected NVDA Issues
and filing an issue if the problem remains.  And from what has passed earlier in this topic it appears that most, if not all, of those steps have been taken as well as a few more.  If my suggestion about clearing browser cache has not been taken, please do take it, as it's simple and it eliminates another possible factor.

In a case like this, if you've already been thorough about all the basic troubleshooting steps, plus more, I'd also suggest that you:
1. restart NVDA with debug level logging enabled
2. do whatever it is you need to do to reproduce the problem
3. once you've encountered that problem hit NVDA + F1 to open log viewer, select everything, copy the entire log to a new file in Notepad, and save it.
4. Include that log file as part of your issue report.  If memory serves it can be attached.  If not, complete the issue report, and then immediately comment on your own issue, pasting the log file in as the comment.

See: Creating an Issue in GitHub for NVDA
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.

         ~ John F. Kennedy

 


Re: MS Access

Richard B. McDonald
 

See the link below. This girl has created a series of tutorials for MS
Access with NVDA that are *really* good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jWI0YylFU8

HTH,
Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Yeti
Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2021 2:16 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] MS Access

Hello list,

who has experience with NVDA and MS Access?

For the moment I am interested in the following options:
- Creating a local database.
- Creating tables
- Creating relationships between tables
- Creating queries

I have a lot of experience with relational databases and also with Access,
but in these years I used another screen reader and had a still usable
Eyesight.

Ad Astra

yeti


Loss of focus when switching keyboard layout on Windows 11

alexey
 

Hello. Yesterday I upgraded to Windows 11 (22000) and there was such a problem.
I press Alt + Shift to switch the layout, a window appears:
Russian (Russia) - Russian
Control point window
Keyboard layout window
Language switching list group
list
Russian Russian 1 of 2
And the focus disappears from the input field. I write, but the letters are not pressed. Until I use the Alt, shift, Tab and arrow keys to return the focus, it will be lost. At the same time, there is no window on the screen, if you press NVDA+TAB, it will say "list
not visible off-screen." Is it possible to get rid of this and if so, how? The latest NVDA 2021.2 is installed.


MS Access

Yeti
 

Hello list,

who has experience with NVDA and MS Access?

For the moment I am interested in the following options:
- Creating a local database.
- Creating tables
- Creating relationships between tables
- Creating queries

I have a lot of experience with relational databases and
also with Access, but in these years I used another screen
reader and had a still usable Eyesight.

Ad Astra

yeti


Re: new issue with NVDA 2021.2 on windows 10

Sarah k Alawami
 

What happens if you run the com reg ttool in nvda?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Mehler
Sent: Friday, October 8, 2021 6:10 PM
To: nvda <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] new issue with NVDA 2021.2 on windows 10

Hello,

This issue just popped up today when I really started noticing it. To the best of my knowledge I've not got any windows 10 upgrades, and I know no NVDA updates. I'm running win10 and NVDA 2021.2 this is on my desktop so am using desktop keyboard mode and the numpad.

The issue is when I review a screen this is happening so far in two applications exploring the desktop with screen review, or a properties dialog same review type, I do an up/down on the numpad and I hear top or bottom, I have to back the review mode to object then go back to screen to get any output. This works once then next time I have to use any sort of screen review I try that procedure again and I get no feedback regarding object review mode that I've switched to in fact NVDA doesn't switch. I can temporarily solve this issue by restarting NVDA.

Suggestions?

Thanks.
Dave.


new issue with NVDA 2021.2 on windows 10

David Mehler
 

Hello,

This issue just popped up today when I really started noticing it. To
the best of my knowledge I've not got any windows 10 upgrades, and I
know no NVDA updates. I'm running win10 and NVDA 2021.2 this is on my
desktop so am using desktop keyboard mode and the numpad.

The issue is when I review a screen this is happening so far in two
applications exploring the desktop with screen review, or a properties
dialog same review type, I do an up/down on the numpad and I hear top
or bottom, I have to back the review mode to object then go back to
screen to get any output. This works once then next time I have to use
any sort of screen review I try that procedure again and I get no
feedback regarding object review mode that I've switched to in fact
NVDA doesn't switch. I can temporarily solve this issue by restarting
NVDA.

Suggestions?

Thanks.
Dave.


Re: nvda and dragon

Pranav Lal
 

Hi Aschalew,

What version of dragon have you installed? I have never had this happen to me.

You do not need to make any changes in nvda's configuration.
Pranav


Re: nvda and acapela for nvda voices

David Goldfield
 

Josh, I haven’t done a complete comparison between the Acapela voices and the Code Factory voices but I would judge their responsiveness as similar. The Acapela voices might be a tad bit less responsive and I’d put a lot of emphasis on tad. I would advise that you install them and judge for yourself since the product does allow for a seven-day trial. It’s been around four years since I purchased them but I believe I did so in U.S. dollars. Like any product which requires the license to be activated make sure that you have an Internet connection when you activate it. Like all such products save your license key into a file that you can easily access later if you need to do so. You may need to copy and paste the key into an edit field within the program to activate it. Apologies if I sound a bit vague on this but, as I said, it’s been several years since I went through the purchasing and activation.

 

David Goldfield,

Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

JAWS Certified, 2019

Subscribe to the Tech-VI announcement list to receive emails regarding news and events in the blindness assistive technology field.

Email: tech-vi+subscribe@groups.io

 

www.DavidGoldfield.org

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: Friday, October 8, 2021 2:36 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] nvda and acapela for nvda voices

 

Hi

I was thinking of buying the acapela nvda voices either this month or next month. Are they as good and responsive as codeFactory vocalizer voices? Will they work with nvda 2021.2 and later? Also can I buy in united states dollars, or do I have convert the price from euros to united states dollars first before I buy them? Have any of you had any issues with activation?

Last, are there sapi5 versions of latest acapela voices to buy also, if I want to later on rather than the voices being tied to NVDA?

 

Josh

 

 

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Re: Why does NVDA now announce, "Properties Page Folder," when starting Thunderbird?

Gene
 

You can try using the speech dictionary.  But this is just two or three words and probably quickly, in a matter of perhaps two or three days, you will likely get used to it and it won’t bother you any more, nor will it slow you down.  Your screen-reader tells you all sorts of things about structure such as dialog, list, tree view, etc.  You are used to them and they don’t bother you or slow you down.  You do what you intend to do whether speech is occurring or not.  That would be the same in this case when you get used to it.
 
but if you want to stop the s;peech, I’ll suggest how you might do so.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2021 4:34 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Why does NVDA now announce, "Properties Page Folder," when starting Thunderbird?
 
Hello All,

Please respond to Roger's question regarding NVDA and Thunderbird using this topic, not either of the original two.

Roger, in the future, if you have a correction, please don't spin-off a separate topic, which giving it a different title does.  Just add the addendum by replying to your original message, that keeps everything together.
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.

         ~ John F. Kennedy

 


Re: Why does NVDA now announce, "Properties Page Folder," when starting Thunderbird?

 

Hello All,

Please respond to Roger's question regarding NVDA and Thunderbird using this topic, not either of the original two.

Roger, in the future, if you have a correction, please don't spin-off a separate topic, which giving it a different title does.  Just add the addendum by replying to your original message, that keeps everything together.
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.

         ~ John F. Kennedy

 


Why does NVDA now announce, "Properties Page Folder," when starting Thunderbird?

Roger Stewart
 

NVDA actually says "Properties Page Folder"  not file folder.


Roger


Why does NVDA now announce, "Properties Page Folder," when starting Thunderbird?

Roger Stewart
 

I've noticed that when I updated Thunderbird to the latest version, that nvda always says "properties file folder" every time I start it up and go to the inbox. It never did this before the update to Thunderbird.  It works fine, but just wondering if there's a way to turn off this useless bit of chatter.


Thanks.

Roger


Re: adobe reader 64 bit does not work with NVDA

 

On Fri, Oct 8, 2021 at 09:13 AM, tim wrote:
He didn't say the 64 bit din't work with windows 10 it was NVDA it didn't work with.
-
Well, it seemed to me that what had originally been noted, which is exactly as you state, had already been directly addressed, and that was with the suggested workaround to install Adobe Reader DC 32-bit.  I read this as a request for a method to get back up and running, and at the moment that's the easiest, and to my knowledge only, way.

All discussion after that is further meta analysis of the whole situation.  I think there are going to be interaction issues between 32-bit and 64-bit software for years to come.  They won't be many, they won't be frequent, but they will exist.  It's going to be a "whack a mole" process until 32-bit software goes the way that 16-bit software went many many moons ago.

Eventually, everything's going to be 64-bit across the board.  But we're not there yet, or even close, really, when it comes down to brass tacks.
 
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.

         ~ John F. Kennedy

 


Re: adobe reader 64 bit does not work with NVDA

enes sarıbaş
 

I haven't trie that, but I am 100% sure it is an NVDA issue, due to the log I posted, and NVDA causing app to exit.

On 10/8/2021 6:50 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
Have you tried launching it with narrator running only, if it crashes then this is an adobe issue and should be taken up with the company, if they even care about such things.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of enes saribas
Sent: Thursday, October 7, 2021 5:08 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io; nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] adobe reader 64 bit does not work with NVDA

this sequence repeats in the log.

ERROR - RPC process 10084 (Acrobat.exe) (14:56:39.824) - Dummy-1229 (4232):
Thread 8124, build\x86_64\remote\COMProxyRegistration.cpp,
registerCOMProxy, 182:
Unable to register interface IAccessibleHyperlink with proxy stub IAccessible2Proxy.dll, code -2147023156


On 10/7/2021 3:05 PM, enes sarıbaş wrote:
Hi all,

I am running latest windows 10 21h1, with NVDA latest alpha build as
of this writing. Adobe reader 64 bit doesn't work at all. When
clicking on a document, it becomes unresponsive, and exits adobe
reader within 30 seconds with no error message. Is anyone else
experiencing this?








Re: nvda and acapela for nvda voices

Chris
 

You can download an evaluation copy to try before you buy

Rather than asking for opinions which vary from person to person

 

 

From: Josh Kennedy
Sent: 08 October 2021 19:35
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] nvda and acapela for nvda voices

 

Hi

I was thinking of buying the acapela nvda voices either this month or next month. Are they as good and responsive as codeFactory vocalizer voices? Will they work with nvda 2021.2 and later? Also can I buy in united states dollars, or do I have convert the price from euros to united states dollars first before I buy them? Have any of you had any issues with activation?

Last, are there sapi5 versions of latest acapela voices to buy also, if I want to later on rather than the voices being tied to NVDA?

 

Josh

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

 

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