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Re: MS Access

Richard Bartholomew
 

Not MS Access oriented but from the more corporate DB side of things, eg Oracle, SQL Server, MySQL etc, when I was working as a production support DBA (admittedly a few years ago now!), whilst my seeing colleagues used GUIs for quickly seeing the health of DBs from the locks/space usage/general performance side of things, for 'serious' work, like me, they used the command line and raw SQL to get the job done efficiently.

 

Cheers

Richard Bartholomew

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: 09 October 2021 18:26
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] MS Access

 

I actually need to take the time to go through the tutorials TheeQuinn has put out there just for my own curiosity, but the tiny (and it was very tiny) bit that I picked up from the page and comments suggests that it focuses on the GUI for MS-Access.  And as the first, and only resource that addresses that for screen reader users, all I can say is:  Bravo!

But since I see she's "entered the fray" here, I'm curious to solicit her, and perhaps others', opinions about using MS-Access from the command line and with SQL and data files.

I'm not blind, but when I was first learning RDBMS systems that's truly the only way you accessed them.  That went by the wayside as the primary access method as GUIs developed, but in the case of a screen reader user I often think that using the command line interface with SQL and data files could be much easier, and much less error prone.

Just wondering if anyone is actually going that route, and what they have to say about it.
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Re: Google Chrome no longer working properly for me

Gene
 

I hope so, too. 
 
I was writing to help you know better what to do in such circumstances but others reading the discussion may benefit as well.  I often write to benefit the person, but also others reading whatever comments I’m making. 
 
I suspect many people, on finding that they can’t copy or paste, wouldn’t realize the screen-reader might be the problem.  Seeing how disconnected a problem may be from what the function of the screen-reader is, others may solve problems quickly they might have considerable trouble with otherwise.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2021 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Google Chrome no longer working properly for me
 
Thank you so much for your patience. I will try to remember to always try that. I know that in the future, if my dementia keeps getting worse I will have to give up using a computer. I hope that is some time off, still.

Betsy


----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Saturday, October 09, 2021 03:40 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Google Chrome no longer working properly for me

I've seen very odd behaviors that seem to have no relation to the screen-reader and are corrected by closing and running it again.  Its happened to me once in a great while that I couldn't copy and paste text until I closed and ran the screen-reader again.  When it comes to odd problems of this sort, just doing these things, regardless of how logical they seem will likely solve such problems.

 

Gene

 

-----Original Message-----

From: Betsy Grenevitch

Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2021 2:34 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Google Chrome no longer working properly for me

 

Yes, I definitely closed google Chrome several times but for some reason did not even think about doing that with NVDA this time around.

 

On 10/9/2021 3:31 PM, Gene wrote:

Whenever odd problems occur and you don't have a more likely solution, the first things to do are to close and open the program, close and run the screen-reader, because some problems that seem like program problems are screen-reader problems, and reboot.  You may not want to try these things in the order I have ;placed them.  I'm not placing them in order of preference.  ;

 

Gene

On 10/9/2021 2:18 PM, Betsy Grenevitch wrote:

I am so sorry but I did not even think about restarting NVDA. That should have  been the first thing I tried but I guess I did not think of it because I was surprised this had even happened. NVDA has been working so well for me. Thank you for your patience and your help. It seems to be working now.

 

On 10/9/2021 3:07 PM, JM Casey wrote:

So you're getting those sorts of format-related messages from the screen-reader, but not actual web content?

Have you tried restarting chrome, NVDA, or just rebooting the pC, since all this started?

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Betsy Grenevitch
Sent: October 9, 2021 03:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: **** [SUSPECTED SPAM] ****Re: [nvda] Google Chrome no longer working properly for me

 

I do not know how else to describe it. When I go to a particular webpage from an email link—I have tried at least three different links—it just says things like "landmark" "banner landmark" "navigation landstnk" etc.


Betsy
----- Original Message -----
From: JM Casey
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Saturday, October 09, 2021 02:56 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Google Chrome no longer working properly for me

Hello.
It's working fine here but, I think you will have to put a little more into describing what is happening. Just saying "it's not working" or "links don't show up properly" doesn't really give anybody anything to work with.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Betsy Grenevitch
Sent: October 9, 2021 02:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Google Chrome no longer working properly for me

As far as I know I have the latest edition of NVDA but as of this morning google Chrome does not seem to be working properly for me at all. I have tried a few different websites but links are not showing up properly thus I am unable to access what I am looking for.


Is there a work around to this?


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Re: MS Access

TheeQuinn Public
 

I am actually the person behind the tutorials. If you have any questions or comments, you can contact me here at theequinnpublic@...


Re: Google Chrome no longer working properly for me

Pamela Dominguez
 

I would probably have turned the whole computer off and turned it back on again.  Pam.
 

Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2021 3:34 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Google Chrome no longer working properly for me
 

Yes, I definitely closed google Chrome several times but for some reason did not even think about doing that with NVDA this time around.

 

On 10/9/2021 3:31 PM, Gene wrote:

Whenever odd problems occur and you don't have a more likely solution, the first things to do are to close and open the program, close and run the screen-reader, because some problems that seem like program problems are screen-reader problems, and reboot.  You may not want to try these things in the order I have ;placed them.  I'm not placing them in order of preference.  ;

 

Gene

On 10/9/2021 2:18 PM, Betsy Grenevitch wrote:

I am so sorry but I did not even think about restarting NVDA. That should have  been the first thing I tried but I guess I did not think of it because I was surprised this had even happened. NVDA has been working so well for me. Thank you for your patience and your help. It seems to be working now.

 

On 10/9/2021 3:07 PM, JM Casey wrote:

So you’re getting those sorts of format-related messages from the screen-reader, but not actual web content?

Have you tried restarting chrome, NVDA, or just rebooting the pC, since all this started?

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Betsy Grenevitch
Sent: October 9, 2021 03:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: **** [SUSPECTED SPAM] ****Re: [nvda] Google Chrome no longer working properly for me

 

I do not know how else to describe it. When I go to a particular webpage from an email link—I have tried at least three different links—it just says things like "landmark" "banner landmark" "navigation landstnk" etc.


Betsy
----- Original Message -----
From: JM Casey
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Saturday, October 09, 2021 02:56 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Google Chrome no longer working properly for me

Hello.
It's working fine here but, I think you will have to put a little more into describing what is happening. Just saying "it's not working" or "links don't show up properly" doesn't really give anybody anything to work with.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Betsy Grenevitch
Sent: October 9, 2021 02:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Google Chrome no longer working properly for me

As far as I know I have the latest edition of NVDA but as of this morning google Chrome does not seem to be working properly for me at all. I have tried a few different websites but links are not showing up properly thus I am unable to access what I am looking for.


Is there a work around to this?


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Re: Google Chrome no longer working properly for me

Betsy Grenevitch
 

Thank you so much for your patience. I will try to remember to always try that. I know that in the future, if my dementia keeps getting worse I will have to give up using a computer. I hope that is some time off, still.

Betsy


----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Saturday, October 09, 2021 03:40 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Google Chrome no longer working properly for me

I've seen very odd behaviors that seem to have no relation to the screen-reader and are corrected by closing and running it again.  Its happened to me once in a great while that I couldn't copy and paste text until I closed and ran the screen-reader again.  When it comes to odd problems of this sort, just doing these things, regardless of how logical they seem will likely solve such problems.

 

Gene

 

-----Original Message-----

From: Betsy Grenevitch

Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2021 2:34 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Google Chrome no longer working properly for me

 

Yes, I definitely closed google Chrome several times but for some reason did not even think about doing that with NVDA this time around.

 

On 10/9/2021 3:31 PM, Gene wrote:

Whenever odd problems occur and you don't have a more likely solution, the first things to do are to close and open the program, close and run the screen-reader, because some problems that seem like program problems are screen-reader problems, and reboot.  You may not want to try these things in the order I have ;placed them.  I'm not placing them in order of preference.  ;

 

Gene

On 10/9/2021 2:18 PM, Betsy Grenevitch wrote:

I am so sorry but I did not even think about restarting NVDA. That should have  been the first thing I tried but I guess I did not think of it because I was surprised this had even happened. NVDA has been working so well for me. Thank you for your patience and your help. It seems to be working now.

 

On 10/9/2021 3:07 PM, JM Casey wrote:

So you're getting those sorts of format-related messages from the screen-reader, but not actual web content?

Have you tried restarting chrome, NVDA, or just rebooting the pC, since all this started?

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Betsy Grenevitch
Sent: October 9, 2021 03:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: **** [SUSPECTED SPAM] ****Re: [nvda] Google Chrome no longer working properly for me

 

I do not know how else to describe it. When I go to a particular webpage from an email link—I have tried at least three different links—it just says things like "landmark" "banner landmark" "navigation landstnk" etc.


Betsy
----- Original Message -----
From: JM Casey
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Saturday, October 09, 2021 02:56 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Google Chrome no longer working properly for me

Hello.
It's working fine here but, I think you will have to put a little more into describing what is happening. Just saying "it's not working" or "links don't show up properly" doesn't really give anybody anything to work with.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Betsy Grenevitch
Sent: October 9, 2021 02:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Google Chrome no longer working properly for me

As far as I know I have the latest edition of NVDA but as of this morning google Chrome does not seem to be working properly for me at all. I have tried a few different websites but links are not showing up properly thus I am unable to access what I am looking for.


Is there a work around to this?


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Re: MS Access

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Brian,

 

I’m interested in your reaction to that tutorial.

 

I didn’t elaborate, but my last experience of positive action with a database system was in DOS with SQL. Like you, I found SQL a very comfortable and efficient tool to resolve all my database problems. Unfortunately, the GUI interface and WYZWYG editors threw me out of the database world.

 

Now, I am very hopeful of returning to it with this new tutorial.

 

Do you know who this person is that is creating these tutorials?

 

I have seen two of them so far and am very impressed with the clarity, relation to NVDA usage and proven productivity!

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, October 9, 2021 6:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] MS Access

 

I actually need to take the time to go through the tutorials TheeQuinn has put out there just for my own curiosity, but the tiny (and it was very tiny) bit that I picked up from the page and comments suggests that it focuses on the GUI for MS-Access.  And as the first, and only resource that addresses that for screen reader users, all I can say is:  Bravo!

But since I see she's "entered the fray" here, I'm curious to solicit her, and perhaps others', opinions about using MS-Access from the command line and with SQL and data files.

I'm not blind, but when I was first learning RDBMS systems that's truly the only way you accessed them.  That went by the wayside as the primary access method as GUIs developed, but in the case of a screen reader user I often think that using the command line interface with SQL and data files could be much easier, and much less error prone.

Just wondering if anyone is actually going that route, and what they have to say about it.
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Re: Google Chrome no longer working properly for me

Gene
 

I’ve seen very odd behaviors that seem to have no relation to the screen-reader and are corrected by closing and running it again.  Its happened to me once in a great while that I couldn’t copy and paste text until I closed and ran the screen-reader again.  When it comes to odd problems of this sort, just doing these things, regardless of how logical they seem will likely solve such problems.
 
Gene
 

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2021 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Google Chrome no longer working properly for me
 

Yes, I definitely closed google Chrome several times but for some reason did not even think about doing that with NVDA this time around.

 

On 10/9/2021 3:31 PM, Gene wrote:

Whenever odd problems occur and you don't have a more likely solution, the first things to do are to close and open the program, close and run the screen-reader, because some problems that seem like program problems are screen-reader problems, and reboot.  You may not want to try these things in the order I have ;placed them.  I'm not placing them in order of preference.  ;

 

Gene

On 10/9/2021 2:18 PM, Betsy Grenevitch wrote:

I am so sorry but I did not even think about restarting NVDA. That should have  been the first thing I tried but I guess I did not think of it because I was surprised this had even happened. NVDA has been working so well for me. Thank you for your patience and your help. It seems to be working now.

 

On 10/9/2021 3:07 PM, JM Casey wrote:

So you’re getting those sorts of format-related messages from the screen-reader, but not actual web content?

Have you tried restarting chrome, NVDA, or just rebooting the pC, since all this started?

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Betsy Grenevitch
Sent: October 9, 2021 03:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: **** [SUSPECTED SPAM] ****Re: [nvda] Google Chrome no longer working properly for me

 

I do not know how else to describe it. When I go to a particular webpage from an email link—I have tried at least three different links—it just says things like "landmark" "banner landmark" "navigation landstnk" etc.


Betsy
----- Original Message -----
From: JM Casey
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Saturday, October 09, 2021 02:56 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Google Chrome no longer working properly for me

Hello.
It's working fine here but, I think you will have to put a little more into describing what is happening. Just saying "it's not working" or "links don't show up properly" doesn't really give anybody anything to work with.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Betsy Grenevitch
Sent: October 9, 2021 02:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Google Chrome no longer working properly for me

As far as I know I have the latest edition of NVDA but as of this morning google Chrome does not seem to be working properly for me at all. I have tried a few different websites but links are not showing up properly thus I am unable to access what I am looking for.


Is there a work around to this?


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Re: Google Chrome no longer working properly for me

Betsy Grenevitch
 

Yes, I definitely closed google Chrome several times but for some reason did not even think about doing that with NVDA this time around.


On 10/9/2021 3:31 PM, Gene wrote:

Whenever odd problems occur and you don't have a more likely solution, the first things to do are to close and open the program, close and run the screen-reader, because some problems that seem like program problems are screen-reader problems, and reboot.  You may not want to try these things in the order I have ;placed them.  I'm not placing them in order of preference.  ;


Gene

On 10/9/2021 2:18 PM, Betsy Grenevitch wrote:

I am so sorry but I did not even think about restarting NVDA. That should have  been the first thing I tried but I guess I did not think of it because I was surprised this had even happened. NVDA has been working so well for me. Thank you for your patience and your help. It seems to be working now.


On 10/9/2021 3:07 PM, JM Casey wrote:

So you’re getting those sorts of format-related messages from the screen-reader, but not actual web content?

Have you tried restarting chrome, NVDA, or just rebooting the pC, since all this started?

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Betsy Grenevitch
Sent: October 9, 2021 03:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: **** [SUSPECTED SPAM] ****Re: [nvda] Google Chrome no longer working properly for me

 

I do not know how else to describe it. When I go to a particular webpage from an email link—I have tried at least three different links—it just says things like "landmark" "banner landmark" "navigation landstnk" etc.


Betsy
----- Original Message -----
From: JM Casey
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Saturday, October 09, 2021 02:56 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Google Chrome no longer working properly for me

Hello.
It's working fine here but, I think you will have to put a little more into describing what is happening. Just saying "it's not working" or "links don't show up properly" doesn't really give anybody anything to work with.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Betsy Grenevitch
Sent: October 9, 2021 02:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Google Chrome no longer working properly for me

As far as I know I have the latest edition of NVDA but as of this morning google Chrome does not seem to be working properly for me at all. I have tried a few different websites but links are not showing up properly thus I am unable to access what I am looking for.


Is there a work around to this?


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Re: Google Chrome no longer working properly for me

Gene
 

Whenever odd problems occur and you don't have a more likely solution, the first things to do are to close and open the program, close and run the screen-reader, because some problems that seem like program problems are screen-reader problems, and reboot.  You may not want to try these things in the order I have ;placed them.  I'm not placing them in order of preference.  ;


Gene

On 10/9/2021 2:18 PM, Betsy Grenevitch wrote:

I am so sorry but I did not even think about restarting NVDA. That should have  been the first thing I tried but I guess I did not think of it because I was surprised this had even happened. NVDA has been working so well for me. Thank you for your patience and your help. It seems to be working now.


On 10/9/2021 3:07 PM, JM Casey wrote:

So you’re getting those sorts of format-related messages from the screen-reader, but not actual web content?

Have you tried restarting chrome, NVDA, or just rebooting the pC, since all this started?

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Betsy Grenevitch
Sent: October 9, 2021 03:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: **** [SUSPECTED SPAM] ****Re: [nvda] Google Chrome no longer working properly for me

 

I do not know how else to describe it. When I go to a particular webpage from an email link—I have tried at least three different links—it just says things like "landmark" "banner landmark" "navigation landstnk" etc.


Betsy
----- Original Message -----
From: JM Casey
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Saturday, October 09, 2021 02:56 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Google Chrome no longer working properly for me

Hello.
It's working fine here but, I think you will have to put a little more into describing what is happening. Just saying "it's not working" or "links don't show up properly" doesn't really give anybody anything to work with.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Betsy Grenevitch
Sent: October 9, 2021 02:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Google Chrome no longer working properly for me

As far as I know I have the latest edition of NVDA but as of this morning google Chrome does not seem to be working properly for me at all. I have tried a few different websites but links are not showing up properly thus I am unable to access what I am looking for.


Is there a work around to this?


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Re: Google Chrome no longer working properly for me

JM Casey
 

Makes sense. It’s not for nothing that’s usually the first thing tech support people will tell you to try.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Betsy Grenevitch
Sent: October 9, 2021 03:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: **** [SUSPECTED SPAM] ****Re: [nvda] Google Chrome no longer working properly for me

 

I am so sorry but I did not even think about restarting NVDA. That should have  been the first thing I tried but I guess I did not think of it because I was surprised this had even happened. NVDA has been working so well for me. Thank you for your patience and your help. It seems to be working now.

 

On 10/9/2021 3:07 PM, JM Casey wrote:

So you’re getting those sorts of format-related messages from the screen-reader, but not actual web content?

Have you tried restarting chrome, NVDA, or just rebooting the pC, since all this started?

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Betsy Grenevitch
Sent: October 9, 2021 03:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: **** [SUSPECTED SPAM] ****Re: [nvda] Google Chrome no longer working properly for me

 

I do not know how else to describe it. When I go to a particular webpage from an email link—I have tried at least three different links—it just says things like "landmark" "banner landmark" "navigation landstnk" etc.


Betsy
----- Original Message -----
From: JM Casey
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Saturday, October 09, 2021 02:56 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Google Chrome no longer working properly for me

Hello.
It's working fine here but, I think you will have to put a little more into describing what is happening. Just saying "it's not working" or "links don't show up properly" doesn't really give anybody anything to work with.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Betsy Grenevitch
Sent: October 9, 2021 02:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Google Chrome no longer working properly for me

As far as I know I have the latest edition of NVDA but as of this morning google Chrome does not seem to be working properly for me at all. I have tried a few different websites but links are not showing up properly thus I am unable to access what I am looking for.


Is there a work around to this?


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Re: Google Chrome no longer working properly for me

Betsy Grenevitch
 

I am so sorry but I did not even think about restarting NVDA. That should have  been the first thing I tried but I guess I did not think of it because I was surprised this had even happened. NVDA has been working so well for me. Thank you for your patience and your help. It seems to be working now.


On 10/9/2021 3:07 PM, JM Casey wrote:

So you’re getting those sorts of format-related messages from the screen-reader, but not actual web content?

Have you tried restarting chrome, NVDA, or just rebooting the pC, since all this started?

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Betsy Grenevitch
Sent: October 9, 2021 03:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: **** [SUSPECTED SPAM] ****Re: [nvda] Google Chrome no longer working properly for me

 

I do not know how else to describe it. When I go to a particular webpage from an email link—I have tried at least three different links—it just says things like "landmark" "banner landmark" "navigation landstnk" etc.


Betsy
----- Original Message -----
From: JM Casey
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Saturday, October 09, 2021 02:56 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Google Chrome no longer working properly for me

Hello.
It's working fine here but, I think you will have to put a little more into describing what is happening. Just saying "it's not working" or "links don't show up properly" doesn't really give anybody anything to work with.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Betsy Grenevitch
Sent: October 9, 2021 02:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Google Chrome no longer working properly for me

As far as I know I have the latest edition of NVDA but as of this morning google Chrome does not seem to be working properly for me at all. I have tried a few different websites but links are not showing up properly thus I am unable to access what I am looking for.


Is there a work around to this?


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Betsy Grenevitch 678-862-3876






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Betsy Grenevitch 678-862-3876


Re: Google Chrome no longer working properly for me

JM Casey
 

So you’re getting those sorts of format-related messages from the screen-reader, but not actual web content?

Have you tried restarting chrome, NVDA, or just rebooting the pC, since all this started?

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Betsy Grenevitch
Sent: October 9, 2021 03:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: **** [SUSPECTED SPAM] ****Re: [nvda] Google Chrome no longer working properly for me

 

I do not know how else to describe it. When I go to a particular webpage from an email link—I have tried at least three different links—it just says things like "landmark" "banner landmark" "navigation landstnk" etc.


Betsy
----- Original Message -----
From: JM Casey
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Saturday, October 09, 2021 02:56 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Google Chrome no longer working properly for me

Hello.
It's working fine here but, I think you will have to put a little more into describing what is happening. Just saying "it's not working" or "links don't show up properly" doesn't really give anybody anything to work with.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Betsy Grenevitch
Sent: October 9, 2021 02:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Google Chrome no longer working properly for me

As far as I know I have the latest edition of NVDA but as of this morning google Chrome does not seem to be working properly for me at all. I have tried a few different websites but links are not showing up properly thus I am unable to access what I am looking for.


Is there a work around to this?


--
Betsy Grenevitch 678-862-3876







Re: Google Chrome no longer working properly for me

Betsy Grenevitch
 

I do not know how else to describe it. When I go to a particular webpage from an email link—I have tried at least three different links—it just says things like "landmark" "banner landmark" "navigation landstnk" etc.


Betsy

----- Original Message -----
From: JM Casey
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Saturday, October 09, 2021 02:56 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Google Chrome no longer working properly for me

Hello.
It's working fine here but, I think you will have to put a little more into describing what is happening. Just saying "it's not working" or "links don't show up properly" doesn't really give anybody anything to work with.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Betsy Grenevitch
Sent: October 9, 2021 02:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Google Chrome no longer working properly for me

As far as I know I have the latest edition of NVDA but as of this morning google Chrome does not seem to be working properly for me at all. I have tried a few different websites but links are not showing up properly thus I am unable to access what I am looking for.


Is there a work around to this?


--
Betsy Grenevitch 678-862-3876








Re: Google Chrome no longer working properly for me

JM Casey
 

Hello.
It's working fine here but, I think you will have to put a little more into describing what is happening. Just saying "it's not working" or "links don't show up properly" doesn't really give anybody anything to work with.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Betsy Grenevitch
Sent: October 9, 2021 02:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Google Chrome no longer working properly for me

As far as I know I have the latest edition of NVDA but as of this morning google Chrome does not seem to be working properly for me at all. I have tried a few different websites but links are not showing up properly thus I am unable to access what I am looking for.


Is there a work around to this?


--
Betsy Grenevitch 678-862-3876


Re: New and apparent lag with NVDA in File Explorer, and an Introducion

cisco
 

Hello there,

 

The preview pane was already unchecked, from what I saw.

For now I’ll use Gene’s suggestion to press and hold cTRL while moving between itmes, until either you guys or I find another solution.

Thanks for the suggestion.

Best regards.

Francisco.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Saturday, October 9, 2021 8:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New and apparent lag with NVDA in File Explorer, and an Introducion

 

Cisco, have you checked to see if the preview pane in File Explorer is enabled?

Press alt-V to go to the View tab on the ribbon. Navigate by pressing the tab key until you move to the Preview Pane button and if it says that the button is pressed then press the space bar to disable it. Let us know if that makes a difference.

 

David Goldfield,

Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

JAWS Certified, 2019

Subscribe to the Tech-VI announcement list to receive emails regarding news and events in the blindness assistive technology field.

Email: tech-vi+subscribe@groups.io

 

www.DavidGoldfield.org

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of cisco
Sent: Saturday, October 9, 2021 12:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New and apparent lag with NVDA in File Explorer, and an Introducion

 

Hello there,

 

Jene,

Thanks for your solution, it works wonderfully!

Also, thanks for the titbit of info about the SSD  not being responsible for giving me the info about the list I’m in.

 

Bryan,

I’ll try to restore the defaults on trimming and such, it’s good to know it might affect the disk’s lifespan.

Best regards.

Francisco

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, October 9, 2021 6:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New and apparent lag with NVDA in File Explorer, and an Introducion

 

I use Windows 7 and my problem isn’t quite the same but my solution may work.  Without going into detail about my problem, there are conditions when responsiveness when moving through a list of folders and files is slow on my machine.  One thing I do and you can try is to hold control as you move.  If I do that, speed returns to normal. 

 

Try the following:

Hold control and move through the list.  When you get to the thing you want to select, release control and up and down arrow to leave and return to the item.  It is now selected and you can press enter on it or do whatever you want.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: cisco

Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2021 9:05 AM

Subject: [nvda] New and apparent lag with NVDA in File Explorer, and an Introducion

 

Hello everyone,

 

My name’s Francisco, I’m a highschool student who has been using NVDA since circa 2014.

I use NVDA daily for an array of things, from homework, to entertainment and so on.

Enough about me, here is the problem I am facing:

Both in Windows 10 and 11, which I’m currently using, NvDA lags behind when navigating folders and files in File Explorer.

Half a second to a second passes from when I press up or down arrow, to when NVDA announces the item under the cursor.

As you can probably imagine, it can get quite annoying at times, particulary when I’m trying to be quick about opening a file.

First letter navigation helps, but having a lot of files starting with the same letters doesn’t help as much, just to balance out things.

My question is, has anyone experienced this kind of behavior when using NvDA? If so, how did you fix it?

If you don’t use file explorer and use an alternative, what would you recommend?

Thank you for any answer.

Have a good day.

Best regards.

Francisco.


Google Chrome no longer working properly for me

Betsy Grenevitch
 

As far as I know I have the latest edition of NVDA but as of this morning google Chrome does not seem to be working properly for me at all. I have tried a few different websites but links are not showing up properly thus I am unable to access what I am looking for.


Is there a work around to this?


--
Betsy Grenevitch 678-862-3876


Re: New and apparent lag with NVDA in File Explorer, and an Introducion

David Goldfield
 

Cisco, have you checked to see if the preview pane in File Explorer is enabled?

Press alt-V to go to the View tab on the ribbon. Navigate by pressing the tab key until you move to the Preview Pane button and if it says that the button is pressed then press the space bar to disable it. Let us know if that makes a difference.

 

David Goldfield,

Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

JAWS Certified, 2019

Subscribe to the Tech-VI announcement list to receive emails regarding news and events in the blindness assistive technology field.

Email: tech-vi+subscribe@groups.io

 

www.DavidGoldfield.org

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of cisco
Sent: Saturday, October 9, 2021 12:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New and apparent lag with NVDA in File Explorer, and an Introducion

 

Hello there,

 

Jene,

Thanks for your solution, it works wonderfully!

Also, thanks for the titbit of info about the SSD  not being responsible for giving me the info about the list I’m in.

 

Bryan,

I’ll try to restore the defaults on trimming and such, it’s good to know it might affect the disk’s lifespan.

Best regards.

Francisco

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, October 9, 2021 6:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New and apparent lag with NVDA in File Explorer, and an Introducion

 

I use Windows 7 and my problem isn’t quite the same but my solution may work.  Without going into detail about my problem, there are conditions when responsiveness when moving through a list of folders and files is slow on my machine.  One thing I do and you can try is to hold control as you move.  If I do that, speed returns to normal. 

 

Try the following:

Hold control and move through the list.  When you get to the thing you want to select, release control and up and down arrow to leave and return to the item.  It is now selected and you can press enter on it or do whatever you want.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: cisco

Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2021 9:05 AM

Subject: [nvda] New and apparent lag with NVDA in File Explorer, and an Introducion

 

Hello everyone,

 

My name’s Francisco, I’m a highschool student who has been using NVDA since circa 2014.

I use NVDA daily for an array of things, from homework, to entertainment and so on.

Enough about me, here is the problem I am facing:

Both in Windows 10 and 11, which I’m currently using, NvDA lags behind when navigating folders and files in File Explorer.

Half a second to a second passes from when I press up or down arrow, to when NVDA announces the item under the cursor.

As you can probably imagine, it can get quite annoying at times, particulary when I’m trying to be quick about opening a file.

First letter navigation helps, but having a lot of files starting with the same letters doesn’t help as much, just to balance out things.

My question is, has anyone experienced this kind of behavior when using NvDA? If so, how did you fix it?

If you don’t use file explorer and use an alternative, what would you recommend?

Thank you for any answer.

Have a good day.

Best regards.

Francisco.


Re: MS Access

Gene
 

I listened to a little of it and it sounds like a well done tutorial.  I would say that in future, music shouldn’t be used beyond the opening.  I find it distracting during the actual teaching.  In particular, I find the rhythmic synthesizer effects distracting.
 
I hope this is taken in the spirit of constructive criticism.  As I said, the material itself seems to me to be well presented from the little I’ve heard.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2021 12:25 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] MS Access
 
I actually need to take the time to go through the tutorials TheeQuinn has put out there just for my own curiosity, but the tiny (and it was very tiny) bit that I picked up from the page and comments suggests that it focuses on the GUI for MS-Access.  And as the first, and only resource that addresses that for screen reader users, all I can say is:  Bravo!

But since I see she's "entered the fray" here, I'm curious to solicit her, and perhaps others', opinions about using MS-Access from the command line and with SQL and data files.

I'm not blind, but when I was first learning RDBMS systems that's truly the only way you accessed them.  That went by the wayside as the primary access method as GUIs developed, but in the case of a screen reader user I often think that using the command line interface with SQL and data files could be much easier, and much less error prone.

Just wondering if anyone is actually going that route, and what they have to say about it.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.

         ~ John F. Kennedy

 


Re: MS Access

 

I actually need to take the time to go through the tutorials TheeQuinn has put out there just for my own curiosity, but the tiny (and it was very tiny) bit that I picked up from the page and comments suggests that it focuses on the GUI for MS-Access.  And as the first, and only resource that addresses that for screen reader users, all I can say is:  Bravo!

But since I see she's "entered the fray" here, I'm curious to solicit her, and perhaps others', opinions about using MS-Access from the command line and with SQL and data files.

I'm not blind, but when I was first learning RDBMS systems that's truly the only way you accessed them.  That went by the wayside as the primary access method as GUIs developed, but in the case of a screen reader user I often think that using the command line interface with SQL and data files could be much easier, and much less error prone.

Just wondering if anyone is actually going that route, and what they have to say about it.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.

         ~ John F. Kennedy

 


Re: MS Access

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Hi,

 

I cannot find your name but I have listened to the initial tutorial on using Microsoft access  with NVDA and I would like to congratulate you on an excellent piece of work.

 

I used to use Access regularly but when windows developed, access became unusable with my screen reader and I turned to excel for all my database and spreadsheet work.

 

I have a new archiving project coming up soon and your message is encouraging me to look at using Access for the storage of data elements.

 

Certainly, I will follow up by making myself familiar with access  now that you have given me a real opportunity to do so!

 

 

All the best and many thanks,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of TheeQuinn Public
Sent: Saturday, October 9, 2021 5:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] MS Access

 

I have just the resource for you. I have tutorials on my YouTube channel in which I teach you how to use NVDA to do all those things that you listed. Check it out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jWI0YylFU8&t=44s




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