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Re: Weird Abbreviation Processing Mid-word?

 

Well have you tried the code factory eloquence sapi or whatever?


I know they do keep it more or less updated a little more often.

On 11/10/2021 9:12 am, Dennis Clark wrote:
Hello Clement,

I also get the same result using Eloquence from Kurzweil. This has been true for me for the past year or so with NVDA. I haven't a way to cure the problem. Hopefully someone here will have some ideas. Thanks for posting.

Dennis




On 10/10/2021 7:25 AM, Clement Chou wrote:
Anyone else using Code Factory's Eloquence and Vocalizer getting
abbreviations incorrectly being processed? For example, look at the
text below.

The original says: Line 6 Marketplace
But Code Factory's Eloquence translates this as: Line March 6th ketplace

Is there a way to delete these dictionary definitions so I just get it
the way it's supposed to be? Thanks.







Re: Weird Abbreviation Processing Mid-word?

 

To be honest while not exactly that issue, I can get weird issues from time to time on here, or other systems I run.

Some persist after a restart, some will persist till I reinstall either the program or windows.

And in a lot of cases they never make it online.

Or they can be completely unrelated.

I once had an issue on a system I was working on which looked like mangled drivers, a virus and a windows issue.

The sound drivers were fixed, a windows issue could be fixed if it was that bad with a reload.

But in the end it boiled down to a defective wifi access card.

Most of the issues went away with its replacement.

So yeah check everything including the buttons on the case I guess.




On 11/10/2021 8:13 am, Gene wrote:

I’d be interested if others have this problem.  It is so odd that it may be caused by something that isn’t a general problem.
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2021 11:55 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weird Abbreviation Processing Mid-word?
 
Have you checked your own NVDA dictionaries?   This one is so bizarre that it seems almost impossible for it to be the synth.

But if it is the synth, trying to work around it with dictionary entries would be a stopgap measure.  The synth maker should be notified, as there is no conceivable world where the line you give as original should be rendered in speech as you report.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.

         ~ John F. Kennedy

 


Re: Weird Abbreviation Processing Mid-word?

Dennis Clark
 

Hello Clement,

I also get the same result using Eloquence from Kurzweil. This has been true for me for the past year or so with NVDA. I haven't a way to cure the problem. Hopefully someone here will have some ideas. Thanks for posting.

Dennis

On 10/10/2021 7:25 AM, Clement Chou wrote:
Anyone else using Code Factory's Eloquence and Vocalizer getting
abbreviations incorrectly being processed? For example, look at the
text below.

The original says: Line 6 Marketplace
But Code Factory's Eloquence translates this as: Line March 6th ketplace

Is there a way to delete these dictionary definitions so I just get it
the way it's supposed to be? Thanks.




Re: New and apparent lag with NVDA in File Explorer, and an Introducion

Gene
 

I didn’t mention using space, not control space, to select the item you are on.  I should have mentioned it.  I didn’t because I think it is a more natural movement to keep your hand on the arrow keys and just up and down arrow than to move to the space bar and press it.  But people may do whatever they wish.
 
However, space should be used in this case, not control space.  Control space is how you would select an item if you want to select more than one item and not select items that are all next to each other.  Space by  itself will select the item you are on and will unselect any other item or items you might have selected earlier.  And space only selects an item.  If it is already selected for some reason, you won’t accidentaly unselect it.  Control space selects an unselected item and unselects a selected item.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Dzhovani
Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2021 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] New and apparent lag with NVDA in File Explorer, and an Introducion
 
Gene,
Instead of pressing up and down arrows, you can press the space bar while holding the control key. This will select the item under the cursor. Seems a tat more convenient.
HTH,
Dzhovani


Re: NVDA Is Malfunctioning On My Windows10 Computer

Gene
 

As you describe the problem, we don’t yet know if NVDA has anything to do with it.  Have you tried using browsers or other programs that present problems with another screen-reader?
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2021 12:04 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA Is Malfunctioning On My Windows10 Computer
 
Hi good people:
NVDA does not work properly on my computer. This happens most often,
when I am on the internet. It is some times very difficult for me to
launch a browser.
I use mozilla firefox, but many times it is very difficult for me to
launch it. I try running the com registration tool, but it doesn't
change anything.
Added to that, when I launch microsoft word, it takes ages to launch
and start reading anything. And even the reading is so slow.
Is there a way of getting around this problem?
I use an old version of the program, which is the 2020 release. The
latest version is not compatible with an AdOn I use with my preferred
speech synthesizer.
Hope to get some help.
I also want to find out the use of a portable copy of NVDA. I've never
tried it out. Can it help me in this situation I've just spelt out.
Kind regards.
Ibrahim.





Re: Weird Abbreviation Processing Mid-word?

Gene
 

I’d be interested if others have this problem.  It is so odd that it may be caused by something that isn’t a general problem.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2021 11:55 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weird Abbreviation Processing Mid-word?
 
Have you checked your own NVDA dictionaries?   This one is so bizarre that it seems almost impossible for it to be the synth.

But if it is the synth, trying to work around it with dictionary entries would be a stopgap measure.  The synth maker should be notified, as there is no conceivable world where the line you give as original should be rendered in speech as you report.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.

         ~ John F. Kennedy

 


Re: Check out this new video to find out how to use the NVDA find dialog in PDF

Gene
 

You can have Adobe open documents you follow links to online, but I was explaining why I use Edge instead of Adobe. 
 
I don’t know how many people know this, but you can open files on your machine or external hard drives or anywhere else you would open them in your browser.  Use control o for the open file dialog and open the file just as you would in a word processor.
 
Of course, you can compare opening files or web pages using Edge and Adobe and see if you like one more.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: JinYoun
Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2021 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Check out this new video to find out how to use the NVDA find dialog in PDF
 
Thank you for this tip. Would this work in adobe as well or only on microsoft edge? Is edge better for viewing pdfs? Should I set edge as my default reader?
Thank you 


Re: NVDA Is Malfunctioning On My Windows10 Computer

Chris
 

Its probably more likely to be an windows problem rather than an issue with NVDA

 

 

From: Ibrahim Ajayi
Sent: 10 October 2021 18:04
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA Is Malfunctioning On My Windows10 Computer

 

Hi good people:

NVDA does not work properly on my computer. This happens most often,

when I am on the internet. It is some times very difficult for me to

launch a browser.

I use mozilla firefox, but many times it is very difficult for me to

launch it. I try running the com registration tool, but it doesn't

change anything.

Added to that, when I launch microsoft word, it takes ages to launch

and start reading anything. And even the reading is so slow.

Is there a way of getting around this problem?

I use an old version of the program, which is the 2020 release. The

latest version is not compatible with an AdOn I use with my preferred

speech synthesizer.

Hope to get some help.

I also want to find out the use of a portable copy of NVDA. I've never

tried it out. Can it help me in this situation I've just spelt out.

Kind regards.

Ibrahim.

 

 

 

 

 


Re: NVDA and emoji keyboard #addonrelease

 

Hi,

Regarding Facebook, are you talking about not being able to use the emoji panel when composing new messages/posts? Note that for this thread, I will assume Windows 10 unless this is on a Windows 11 system.

Cheers,

Joseph (the author of Windows App Essentials add-on)


Re: New and apparent lag with NVDA in File Explorer, and an Introducion

Dzhovani
 

Gene,
Instead of pressing up and down arrows, you can press the space bar while holding the control key. This will select the item under the cursor. Seems a tat more convenient.
HTH,
Dzhovani


NVDA Is Malfunctioning On My Windows10 Computer

Ibrahim Ajayi
 

Hi good people:
NVDA does not work properly on my computer. This happens most often,
when I am on the internet. It is some times very difficult for me to
launch a browser.
I use mozilla firefox, but many times it is very difficult for me to
launch it. I try running the com registration tool, but it doesn't
change anything.
Added to that, when I launch microsoft word, it takes ages to launch
and start reading anything. And even the reading is so slow.
Is there a way of getting around this problem?
I use an old version of the program, which is the 2020 release. The
latest version is not compatible with an AdOn I use with my preferred
speech synthesizer.
Hope to get some help.
I also want to find out the use of a portable copy of NVDA. I've never
tried it out. Can it help me in this situation I've just spelt out.
Kind regards.
Ibrahim.


Re: Weird Abbreviation Processing Mid-word?

 

Have you checked your own NVDA dictionaries?   This one is so bizarre that it seems almost impossible for it to be the synth.

But if it is the synth, trying to work around it with dictionary entries would be a stopgap measure.  The synth maker should be notified, as there is no conceivable world where the line you give as original should be rendered in speech as you report.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.

         ~ John F. Kennedy

 


NVDA and emoji keyboard #addonrelease

JinYoun
 

Hi, I was just curious if others have the same issue as me with the emoji keyboard. After installing the windows app essential add-on, I've been able to use the emoji keyboard by pressing windows + . on this forum and in emails,  but cannot get it to work in facebook or on Sero. When I tab down and use the arrow keys to browse, it closes the emoji keyboard.😕
If someone could teach me the correct way to use the emoji keyboard using NVDA that would be so appreciated.🙏
Thank you 


Re: Check out this new video to find out how to use the NVDA find dialog in PDF

JinYoun
 

Thank you for this tip. Would this work in adobe as well or only on microsoft edge? Is edge better for viewing pdfs? Should I set edge as my default reader?
Thank you 


Weird Abbreviation Processing Mid-word?

Clement Chou
 

Anyone else using Code Factory's Eloquence and Vocalizer getting
abbreviations incorrectly being processed? For example, look at the
text below.

The original says: Line 6 Marketplace
But Code Factory's Eloquence translates this as: Line March 6th ketplace

Is there a way to delete these dictionary definitions so I just get it
the way it's supposed to be? Thanks.


Technically is it possible to have nvda assume first row and column of excel file as header?

William
 

Hi all,

As what my subject has stated, I wanna know is it possible to have nvda to assume first row and column as header, so that even if we have not set the column and row header using nvda shift c or r, nvda can still report the header?

Thanks

William


Re: nvda and dragon

Aschalew Byness
 

Hi Pranav
I'm using dragon 15. 30.


On Fri, Oct 8, 2021 at 6:57 PM Pranav Lal <pranav@...> wrote:
Hi Aschalew,

What version of dragon have you installed? I have never had this happen to me.

You do not need to make any changes in nvda's configuration.
Pranav








Re: Google Chrome no longer working properly for me

Arlene
 

Same here. I’ve seen odd behaviors with google Chrome. I just close and reopen it.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Gene
Sent: October 9, 2021 12:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Google Chrome no longer working properly for me

 

I’ve seen very odd behaviors that seem to have no relation to the screen-reader and are corrected by closing and running it again.  Its happened to me once in a great while that I couldn’t copy and paste text until I closed and ran the screen-reader again.  When it comes to odd problems of this sort, just doing these things, regardless of how logical they seem will likely solve such problems.

 

Gene

 

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2021 2:34 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Google Chrome no longer working properly for me

 

Yes, I definitely closed google Chrome several times but for some reason did not even think about doing that with NVDA this time around.

 

On 10/9/2021 3:31 PM, Gene wrote:

Whenever odd problems occur and you don't have a more likely solution, the first things to do are to close and open the program, close and run the screen-reader, because some problems that seem like program problems are screen-reader problems, and reboot.  You may not want to try these things in the order I have ;placed them.  I'm not placing them in order of preference.  ;

 

Gene

On 10/9/2021 2:18 PM, Betsy Grenevitch wrote:

I am so sorry but I did not even think about restarting NVDA. That should have  been the first thing I tried but I guess I did not think of it because I was surprised this had even happened. NVDA has been working so well for me. Thank you for your patience and your help. It seems to be working now.

 

On 10/9/2021 3:07 PM, JM Casey wrote:

So you’re getting those sorts of format-related messages from the screen-reader, but not actual web content?

Have you tried restarting chrome, NVDA, or just rebooting the pC, since all this started?

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Betsy Grenevitch
Sent: October 9, 2021 03:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: **** [SUSPECTED SPAM] ****Re: [nvda] Google Chrome no longer working properly for me

 

I do not know how else to describe it. When I go to a particular webpage from an email link—I have tried at least three different links—it just says things like "landmark" "banner landmark" "navigation landstnk" etc.


Betsy
----- Original Message -----
From: JM Casey
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Saturday, October 09, 2021 02:56 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Google Chrome no longer working properly for me

Hello.
It's working fine here but, I think you will have to put a little more into describing what is happening. Just saying "it's not working" or "links don't show up properly" doesn't really give anybody anything to work with.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Betsy Grenevitch
Sent: October 9, 2021 02:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Google Chrome no longer working properly for me

As far as I know I have the latest edition of NVDA but as of this morning google Chrome does not seem to be working properly for me at all. I have tried a few different websites but links are not showing up properly thus I am unable to access what I am looking for.


Is there a work around to this?


--
Betsy Grenevitch 678-862-3876





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Betsy Grenevitch 678-862-3876

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Betsy Grenevitch 678-862-3876

 


Re: MS Access

 

Richard,

It was true for me, and my coworkers (who were sighted as I am), as well back when I was a DBA and/or doing embedded SQL coding in the 1990s.  Once in a very great while if I needed a really "quick and dirty" result I'd run an SQL query within the GUI, which has its own version of the command prompt/power shell in every RDBMS I've used in the 1990s and beyond.

It was just much easier to formulate the SQL, check it, then check the data set results you got by feeding it in via the command line and looking at the resulting output files of records.  We were particularly careful to always create SELECT statements with the same selection logic that we were going to use to delete records.  That way we could see precisely what was going to be nuked before nuking it.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.

         ~ John F. Kennedy

 


Re: MS Access

Richard Bartholomew
 

Not MS Access oriented but from the more corporate DB side of things, eg Oracle, SQL Server, MySQL etc, when I was working as a production support DBA (admittedly a few years ago now!), whilst my seeing colleagues used GUIs for quickly seeing the health of DBs from the locks/space usage/general performance side of things, for 'serious' work, like me, they used the command line and raw SQL to get the job done efficiently.

 

Cheers

Richard Bartholomew

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: 09 October 2021 18:26
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] MS Access

 

I actually need to take the time to go through the tutorials TheeQuinn has put out there just for my own curiosity, but the tiny (and it was very tiny) bit that I picked up from the page and comments suggests that it focuses on the GUI for MS-Access.  And as the first, and only resource that addresses that for screen reader users, all I can say is:  Bravo!

But since I see she's "entered the fray" here, I'm curious to solicit her, and perhaps others', opinions about using MS-Access from the command line and with SQL and data files.

I'm not blind, but when I was first learning RDBMS systems that's truly the only way you accessed them.  That went by the wayside as the primary access method as GUIs developed, but in the case of a screen reader user I often think that using the command line interface with SQL and data files could be much easier, and much less error prone.

Just wondering if anyone is actually going that route, and what they have to say about it.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.

         ~ John F. Kennedy

 

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