|
Re: nvda lagging
Shawn
I’ve always had this problem with Windows Mail in Windows 10 with any long emails at all, and sometimes with short ones from certain senders, likely with lots of graphics like the ones I get from our farmer’s market, and adds I get from Walmart, it will read a couple lines, stop for a literally several seconds to a minute or even 2, read a couple more lines, rince, repeat until I got tired of it and copied and pasted into notepad to read it there. With emails from a question and answer site called Quora, I used to have to wait several minutes and play tricks trying to click in the message with the mouse cursor to get NVDA to unfreeze and let me navigate in the email, it would freeze on those as soon as I opened them, I would restart NVDA several times, hurry up and alt+tab to the window, and click something before it froze, keep doing that until I could navigate normally, but lately Quora must have changed something in the document because the emails come up right away with no problem now and I can open the page I want with my Quora digest. Shawn Klein Sent from Mail for Windows
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 1:03 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda lagging
Why not use Wordpad? It should be able to read the word document you are having read and you probably won’t have the stopping problem. If you do, converting the document to a text file and having it read in Notepad should solve the problem. It sounds as though there may be some sort of buffer overflow problem, based on the behavior being described but that’s just a guess and may not be correct.
Gene -----OOriginal Message-----
Dear Wally,
|
|
|
|
Re: nvda lagging
Gene
I haven’t used them except the one in Openbook, but there are utilities
that will convert documents to audio files. The Openbook one pauses too
long after periods and since my screenreader isn’t being used, the speech
dictionary isn’t available to correct mispronunciations. So even though I
could use the utility in Openbook, I don’t.
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Hello there,
I understand now, I’m sorry I didn’t before. What you say about recording is quite interesting, I never find myself doing it, though it might be a good practice. Best regards. Francisco.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Gene
I don’t think they will be announced when you come to them. There is also no browse mode in Wordpad. My suggestion was specifically for reading uninterruptedly. It sounds as though the person wants to be able to record the screen-reader reading text, something I do off and on.
Gene -----Original Message-----
Hello there,
Yes, what you suggest is a good idea, though if there are headings, links, and such, would WordPad be able to detect them?
I’m not saying that the document in question contains such things, I’m just asking, because my books do, and I’m curious to see if WordPad could read them fine, though I have no problem whatsoever with word 365. Best regards. Francisco.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Gene
If you hold control and move up and down the list in Windows Explorer, now called File Explorer, you won’t have the lag problem. Once you get to the file or folder you want, stop, then up and down arrow back to it so it and only it will be selected.
Gene -----Original Message----- From: Marisane Moruthanyana Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda lagging
Hi Robert
|
|
|
|
Re: nvda lagging
cisco
Hello there,
I understand now, I’m sorry I didn’t before. What you say about recording is quite interesting, I never find myself doing it, though it might be a good practice. Best regards. Francisco.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 8:22 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda lagging
I don’t think they will be announced when you come to them. There is also no browse mode in Wordpad. My suggestion was specifically for reading uninterruptedly. It sounds as though the person wants to be able to record the screen-reader reading text, something I do off and on.
Gene -----Original Message-----
Hello there,
Yes, what you suggest is a good idea, though if there are headings, links, and such, would WordPad be able to detect them?
I’m not saying that the document in question contains such things, I’m just asking, because my books do, and I’m curious to see if WordPad could read them fine, though I have no problem whatsoever with word 365. Best regards. Francisco.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
If you hold control and move up and down the list in Windows Explorer, now called File Explorer, you won’t have the lag problem. Once you get to the file or folder you want, stop, then up and down arrow back to it so it and only it will be selected.
Gene -----Original Message----- From: Marisane Moruthanyana Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda lagging
Hi Robert
|
|
|
|
Re: nvda lagging
Gene
I don’t think they will be announced when you come to them. There is
also no browse mode in Wordpad. My suggestion was specifically for reading
uninterruptedly. It sounds as though the person wants to be able to record
the screen-reader reading text, something I do off and on.
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Hello there,
Yes, what you suggest is a good idea, though if there are headings, links, and such, would WordPad be able to detect them?
I’m not saying that the document in question contains such things, I’m just asking, because my books do, and I’m curious to see if WordPad could read them fine, though I have no problem whatsoever with word 365. Best regards. Francisco.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Gene
If you hold control and move up and down the list in Windows Explorer, now called File Explorer, you won’t have the lag problem. Once you get to the file or folder you want, stop, then up and down arrow back to it so it and only it will be selected.
Gene -----Original Message----- From: Marisane Moruthanyana Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda lagging
Hi Robert
|
|
|
|
Re: nvda lagging
cisco
Hello there,
Yes, what you suggest is a good idea, though if there are headings, links, and such, would WordPad be able to detect them?
I’m not saying that the document in question contains such things, I’m just asking, because my books do, and I’m curious to see if WordPad could read them fine, though I have no problem whatsoever with word 365. Best regards. Francisco.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 8:08 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda lagging
If you hold control and move up and down the list in Windows Explorer, now called File Explorer, you won’t have the lag problem. Once you get to the file or folder you want, stop, then up and down arrow back to it so it and only it will be selected.
Gene -----Original Message----- From: Marisane Moruthanyana Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda lagging
Hi Robert
|
|
|
|
Re: nvda lagging
Gene
If you hold control and move up and down the list in Windows Explorer, now
called File Explorer, you won’t have the lag problem. Once you get to the
file or folder you want, stop, then up and down arrow back to it so it and only
it will be selected.
Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Marisane Moruthanyana
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda lagging Hi
Robert You are quite right, it is confusing. The worse of it, with me, it even lags in Windows explorer. It needs to be attended to as urgently as possible. Wally On 10/12/21, Robert Portal <portalrm56@...> wrote: > Dear Wally, > > I have the same issue with NVDA 2021.2 - you said you had 2021.1 installed. > When reading a long document in Word 2007 with Say All the reading is fine > for 5 to 7 minutes and then it stops, almost always on a full-stop. At this > point NVDA is unresponsive - it takes a minute or so to get it working > again. > This is a problem because I regularly record the computer's reading of texts > which may take up to two hours to read. Previously I could leave it until > the reading was finished, now I have to follow it to re-start it when it > stops, wasting hours of time. > > I've tried different eloquence and Vocaliser voices, closing all windows > except for that of the document to be read, turning off the option for Word > to save the document every x number of minutes. I've also tried uninstalling > and re-installing NVDA, all to no avail. > I had assumed it was probably something specific to my system and so I was > interested to find someone else with a similar problem. > > I too, would be interested in any suggestions people might have. > > Best wishes > > Robert Portal > > -----Messaggio originale----- > Da: nvda@nvda.groups.io Per conto di Marisane Moruthanyana > Inviato: mardi 12 octobre 2021 10:50 > A: nvda <nvda@nvda.groups.io> > Oggetto: [nvda] nvda lagging > > Good day mvda gurus > > I hope you are well. > > I am trying to cope. > > I have a weird issue with nvda. > > I am using nvda 2021.1. > > It keeps on stopping. > > This stopping or lagging has been with me for sometime now. > > What could be the cause? > > It happens when I am reading through a document or typing. > > It also freezes easily these days. > > What is going on? > > Please assist. > > Wally SA > > > > > > > > > > > >
|
|
|
|
Re: nvda lagging
Gene
Why not use Wordpad? It should be able to read the word document you
are having read and you probably won’t have the stopping problem. If you
do, converting the document to a text file and having it read in Notepad should
solve the problem. It sounds as though there may be some sort of buffer
overflow problem, based on the behavior being described but that’s just a guess
and may not be correct.
Gene
-----OOriginal Message-----
Dear
Wally, I have the same issue with NVDA 2021.2 - you said you had 2021.1 installed. When reading a long document in Word 2007 with Say All the reading is fine for 5 to 7 minutes and then it stops, almost always on a full-stop. At this point NVDA is unresponsive - it takes a minute or so to get it working again. This is a problem because I regularly record the computer's reading of texts which may take up to two hours to read. Previously I could leave it until the reading was finished, now I have to follow it to re-start it when it stops, wasting hours of time. I've tried different eloquence and Vocaliser voices, closing all windows except for that of the document to be read, turning off the option for Word to save the document every x number of minutes. I've also tried uninstalling and re-installing NVDA, all to no avail. I had assumed it was probably something specific to my system and so I was interested to find someone else with a similar problem. I too, would be interested in any suggestions people might have. Best wishes Robert Portal -----Messaggio originale----- Da: nvda@nvda.groups.io Per conto di Marisane Moruthanyana Inviato: mardi 12 octobre 2021 10:50 A: nvda <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Oggetto: [nvda] nvda lagging Good day mvda gurus I hope you are well. I am trying to cope. I have a weird issue with nvda. I am using nvda 2021.1. It keeps on stopping. This stopping or lagging has been with me for sometime now. What could be the cause? It happens when I am reading through a document or typing. It also freezes easily these days. What is going on? Please assist. Wally SA
|
|
|
|
Re: Excel: detecting shading on cells
Hi Brian, <snip If your colleagues are using cell shading, as opposed to text color, you might want to inquire as to whether they could just use text color instead.
Pranav
|
|
|
|
Re: Excel: detecting shading on cells
Hi Brian,
The version of nvda is 2021.1. The version of excel is Microsoft excel for Microsoft 365 version 16.0.1380 32bit This is a work laptop
Running windows 10 Pranav
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 8:57 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Excel: detecting shading on cells
It could also matter what versions of NVDA, Excel, and even, possibly, Windows are in the mix. Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043 The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all. ~ John F. Kennedy
|
|
|
|
Re: nvda lagging
cisco
Hello there,
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
Try enabling draft view in word. If you're just reading a document, that might help. Best regards. Francisco.
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Portal Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 5:59 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda lagging Dear Wally, I have the same issue with NVDA 2021.2 - you said you had 2021.1 installed. When reading a long document in Word 2007 with Say All the reading is fine for 5 to 7 minutes and then it stops, almost always on a full-stop. At this point NVDA is unresponsive - it takes a minute or so to get it working again. This is a problem because I regularly record the computer's reading of texts which may take up to two hours to read. Previously I could leave it until the reading was finished, now I have to follow it to re-start it when it stops, wasting hours of time. I've tried different eloquence and Vocaliser voices, closing all windows except for that of the document to be read, turning off the option for Word to save the document every x number of minutes. I've also tried uninstalling and re-installing NVDA, all to no avail. I had assumed it was probably something specific to my system and so I was interested to find someone else with a similar problem. I too, would be interested in any suggestions people might have. Best wishes Robert Portal -----Messaggio originale----- Da: nvda@nvda.groups.io Per conto di Marisane Moruthanyana Inviato: mardi 12 octobre 2021 10:50 A: nvda <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Oggetto: [nvda] nvda lagging Good day mvda gurus I hope you are well. I am trying to cope. I have a weird issue with nvda. I am using nvda 2021.1. It keeps on stopping. This stopping or lagging has been with me for sometime now. What could be the cause? It happens when I am reading through a document or typing. It also freezes easily these days. What is going on? Please assist. Wally SA
|
|
|
|
Re: nvda lagging
Has anyone reported this on github? I would check there and comment with machine specs, logs etc.
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marisane Moruthanyana Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 9:06 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda lagging Hi Robert You are quite right, it is confusing. The worse of it, with me, it even lags in Windows explorer. It needs to be attended to as urgently as possible. Wally On 10/12/21, Robert Portal <portalrm56@gmail.com> wrote: Dear Wally,
|
|
|
|
Re: NVDA and emoji keyboard
#addonrelease
JinYoun
Hi, I just checked using narrator on chrome and it works with narrator.
No rush and thank you for looking in to this. Cheers
|
|
|
|
Re: Check out this new video to find out how to use the NVDA find dialog in PDF
JinYoun
Thank you so much for this helpful tip Ben! This is really good to know.
Cheers
|
|
|
|
Re: nvda lagging
Marisane Moruthanyana
Hi Robert
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
You are quite right, it is confusing. The worse of it, with me, it even lags in Windows explorer. It needs to be attended to as urgently as possible. Wally
On 10/12/21, Robert Portal <portalrm56@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Wally,
|
|
|
|
Re: nvda lagging
Robert Portal
Dear Wally,
I have the same issue with NVDA 2021.2 - you said you had 2021.1 installed. When reading a long document in Word 2007 with Say All the reading is fine for 5 to 7 minutes and then it stops, almost always on a full-stop. At this point NVDA is unresponsive - it takes a minute or so to get it working again. This is a problem because I regularly record the computer's reading of texts which may take up to two hours to read. Previously I could leave it until the reading was finished, now I have to follow it to re-start it when it stops, wasting hours of time. I've tried different eloquence and Vocaliser voices, closing all windows except for that of the document to be read, turning off the option for Word to save the document every x number of minutes. I've also tried uninstalling and re-installing NVDA, all to no avail. I had assumed it was probably something specific to my system and so I was interested to find someone else with a similar problem. I too, would be interested in any suggestions people might have. Best wishes Robert Portal -----Messaggio originale----- Da: nvda@nvda.groups.io Per conto di Marisane Moruthanyana Inviato: mardi 12 octobre 2021 10:50 A: nvda <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Oggetto: [nvda] nvda lagging Good day mvda gurus I hope you are well. I am trying to cope. I have a weird issue with nvda. I am using nvda 2021.1. It keeps on stopping. This stopping or lagging has been with me for sometime now. What could be the cause? It happens when I am reading through a document or typing. It also freezes easily these days. What is going on? Please assist. Wally SA
|
|
|
|
Re: Excel: detecting shading on cells
On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 08:08 AM, Pranav Lal wrote:
nvda key + f- As a side note, the NVDA User Guide describes this command as reporting text formatting. Text formatting, including text color, is a completely separate thing from cell shading. I don't, off the top of my head, know how/if NVDA can be asked to give you cell shading information without actually going into the cell shading dialogs in Excel. If your colleagues are using cell shading, as opposed to text color, you might want to inquire as to whether they could just use text color instead. -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043 The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all. ~ John F. Kennedy
|
|
|
|
Re: Excel: detecting shading on cells
It could also matter what versions of NVDA, Excel, and even, possibly, Windows are in the mix.
Knowing what version(s) of NVDA and Excel are in use would be a very good set of data points to have. -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043 The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all. ~ John F. Kennedy
|
|
|
|
Re: Weird Abbreviation Processing Mid-word?
On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 10:45 AM, John Sanfilippo wrote:
j26s- The problem being that even this, as written, would require guessing. I'd say Jay twenty-six ess simply because I'd instantly change a designation such as this to its more typical uppercase equivalent J26S. The British colloquialism, "at 6s and 7s," which can also be written out as, "at sixes and sevens," requires the s to be treated as plural. The phrase, "he was in his 20s," requires the S to be spoken as a plural. It's just more conventional to use all uppercase for letter digit sequences intended to be pronounced character by character. There's still no artificial intelligence out there that I know of that can "auto correct" certain things the way that human wetware can and does. -- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043 The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all. ~ John F. Kennedy
|
|
|
|
MP3 Direct Cut--Splitting Files
Gene
For some reason, my previous message appears not to have been sent. Here it is again;.
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
I tried your method and they both work so people may use whichever they want. It does sound very different with speech. Gene
On 10/12/2021 9:48 AM, Pele West wrote:
Hi Gene
|
|
|
|
Re: MP3 Direct Cut--Splitting Files
Pele West
Hi Gene
Apologies, I realise this does not sound good if you only have a speech synthesizer. I am also using a braille display. what I wrote was Press B N Del That is press the letter B, the letter N and then the Delete Key. This will create a Q point. I have just been using it to split a file. Apologies again pele West
|
|
|