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Re: Navigation similar to the “vertical navigation” voiceover feature?

William
 

I know some website intended to prevent people from scraping their data, they intended not to make those data to be put in a proper table.

Besides, I also seeing some website simply just use spaces to make data visually like arranged in a table.


Encountering these data really feel annoying.



Gene 於 15/10/2021 9:59 寫道:

Unfortunately, as I thought about it, I realized the support screen layout option in NVDA wouldn’t work.  The screen layout probably is the same as a table, but without code that lets a screen-reader work with it.  So you must read by line and see everything on the line you move to.
 
Is there a possibility that NVDA could have a feature where you set a start point and an end point and only have what is between those points read as you move up and down by line? 
If so, I could set a start and end point so that each line I moved to would only have the third item from the left announced, for example.  And if something like a book appears on  screen in columns, I could set the start and end point to read one column.
This may not be possible in Windows.  This isn’t my idea, it was done decades ago in a DOS screen-reader, ASAP.  If it could be done in Windows screen-readers, it probably would have been but I don’t want to assume.
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 8:26 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Navigation similar to the “vertical navigation” voiceover feature?
 
Hi Robert,
Thank you for the idea. I've tried that but it doesn't work, likely because the table isn't an actual HTML table and thus NVDA can't  traverse it as such. Thanks again.

Luke


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 2:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Navigation similar to the “vertical navigation” voiceover feature?

try pressing alt+ctrl+down arrow when in a table.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Luke Robinett" <lukelistservs@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 12:26 PM
Subject: [nvda] Navigation similar to the “vertical navigation” voiceover feature?


Hi folks,
imagine I’ve got a webpage open and there is information on it that is visually laid out like a table but is not traversable as a table using NVDA.
I am on a column heading and I want to move focus directly below it to the first cellof that column. In iOS, there’s a rotor option called “vertical navigation” that allows me to do this easily. Is there any such functionality in NVDA? Unfortunately, the only way I’v found  to get to that cell is to press control + down arrow repeatedly,traveling through all The other column headings first, making it sometimes impossible to know when I’ve actually arrived at the first item under that original column heading. I hope the description of the problem makes sense. Thank you for any tips or strategies.

Luke
Re: NVDA error checking for update

dennis huckle <denniswhuckle@...>
 

Hello again,

It’s a credit to nvda that these issues are dealt with promptly and that you also give an explanation.

Lets hope other screen reader providers learn the lesson.

Many thanks,

Kind regards,

Dennis huckle.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: 15 October 2021 03:18
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA error checking for update

 

The issue is because our security provider updated their certificate, but it doesn't automatically propagate to everyone.  The number of messages I've seen about it leads me to think that actually most users DO have the updated Windows certificates, but for whatever reason, not everyone does, and it is not one set of users - eg it's not related to a specific version of Windows.

 

Another fix for this is an add-on which was made by Mazen428 on GitHub: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/files/7269883/NvdaCertPatch.zip  It does show an error message, but it fixes the problem and automatically uninstalls itself.

 

We've put in a fix in alpha builds which will be in NVDA 2021.3 and later to endeavour to stop this from happening again in the future, but users affected now will need to implement one of the fixes now as well.

 

On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 1:11 PM David Mehler <dave.mehler@...> wrote:

Hello,

Thanks,  that did it. Punched in that line of python code and ran
update check worked just fine got the latest updates.

One thing how I missed it, the message led me to believe it occurred
only to new windows 10 installs that had not connected to the
internet, this in my case was not the case. But it is working now.
Thanks.
Dave.


On 10/14/21, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
> Then you are very likely having precisely the same issue I sent this Admin
> Notice for on October 2nd:
>
> Update Checking Error for NVDA and Add - On Updater - Root Cause Identified,
> Workaround Given, Problem solved in 2021.3 (
> https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/message/88232?p=%2C%2C%2C20%2C0%2C0%2C0%3A%3Arecentpostdate%2Fsticky%2C%2Cadd-on+updater%2C20%2C2%2C0%2C86028599
> )
>
> --
>
> Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043
>
> *The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.*
>
> ~ John F. Kennedy
>
>
>
>
>
>





 

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Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 
Re: NVDA error checking for update

Quentin Christensen
 

The issue is because our security provider updated their certificate, but it doesn't automatically propagate to everyone.  The number of messages I've seen about it leads me to think that actually most users DO have the updated Windows certificates, but for whatever reason, not everyone does, and it is not one set of users - eg it's not related to a specific version of Windows.

Another fix for this is an add-on which was made by Mazen428 on GitHub: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/files/7269883/NvdaCertPatch.zip  It does show an error message, but it fixes the problem and automatically uninstalls itself.

We've put in a fix in alpha builds which will be in NVDA 2021.3 and later to endeavour to stop this from happening again in the future, but users affected now will need to implement one of the fixes now as well.

On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 1:11 PM David Mehler <dave.mehler@...> wrote:
Hello,

Thanks,  that did it. Punched in that line of python code and ran
update check worked just fine got the latest updates.

One thing how I missed it, the message led me to believe it occurred
only to new windows 10 installs that had not connected to the
internet, this in my case was not the case. But it is working now.
Thanks.
Dave.


On 10/14/21, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
> Then you are very likely having precisely the same issue I sent this Admin
> Notice for on October 2nd:
>
> Update Checking Error for NVDA and Add - On Updater - Root Cause Identified,
> Workaround Given, Problem solved in 2021.3 (
> https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/message/88232?p=%2C%2C%2C20%2C0%2C0%2C0%3A%3Arecentpostdate%2Fsticky%2C%2Cadd-on+updater%2C20%2C2%2C0%2C86028599
> )
>
> --
>
> Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043
>
> *The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.*
>
> ~ John F. Kennedy
>
>
>
>
>
>







--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager
Re: NVDA error checking for update

David Mehler
 

Hello,

Thanks, that did it. Punched in that line of python code and ran
update check worked just fine got the latest updates.

One thing how I missed it, the message led me to believe it occurred
only to new windows 10 installs that had not connected to the
internet, this in my case was not the case. But it is working now.
Thanks.
Dave.

On 10/14/21, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
Then you are very likely having precisely the same issue I sent this Admin
Notice for on October 2nd:

Update Checking Error for NVDA and Add - On Updater - Root Cause Identified,
Workaround Given, Problem solved in 2021.3 (
https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/message/88232?p=%2C%2C%2C20%2C0%2C0%2C0%3A%3Arecentpostdate%2Fsticky%2C%2Cadd-on+updater%2C20%2C2%2C0%2C86028599
)

--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043

*The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.*

~ John F. Kennedy
Re: Navigation similar to the “vertical navigation” voiceover feature?

Gene
 

Unfortunately, as I thought about it, I realized the support screen layout option in NVDA wouldn’t work.  The screen layout probably is the same as a table, but without code that lets a screen-reader work with it.  So you must read by line and see everything on the line you move to.
 
Is there a possibility that NVDA could have a feature where you set a start point and an end point and only have what is between those points read as you move up and down by line? 
If so, I could set a start and end point so that each line I moved to would only have the third item from the left announced, for example.  And if something like a book appears on  screen in columns, I could set the start and end point to read one column.
This may not be possible in Windows.  This isn’t my idea, it was done decades ago in a DOS screen-reader, ASAP.  If it could be done in Windows screen-readers, it probably would have been but I don’t want to assume.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 8:26 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Navigation similar to the “vertical navigation” voiceover feature?
 
Hi Robert,
Thank you for the idea. I've tried that but it doesn't work, likely because the table isn't an actual HTML table and thus NVDA can't  traverse it as such. Thanks again.

Luke


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 2:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Navigation similar to the “vertical navigation” voiceover feature?

try pressing alt+ctrl+down arrow when in a table.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Luke Robinett" <lukelistservs@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 12:26 PM
Subject: [nvda] Navigation similar to the “vertical navigation” voiceover feature?


Hi folks,
imagine I’ve got a webpage open and there is information on it that is visually laid out like a table but is not traversable as a table using NVDA.
I am on a column heading and I want to move focus directly below it to the first cellof that column. In iOS, there’s a rotor option called “vertical navigation” that allows me to do this easily. Is there any such functionality in NVDA? Unfortunately, the only way I’v found  to get to that cell is to press control + down arrow repeatedly,traveling through all The other column headings first, making it sometimes impossible to know when I’ve actually arrived at the first item under that original column heading. I hope the description of the problem makes sense. Thank you for any tips or strategies.

Luke
Re: NVDA and OCR software

Rui Fontes
 

It is a NVDA add-on that includes a command line OCR, NAPS2...


The add-on makes the two things...
NVDA+Control+R, in a selected file in File Explorer, makes OCR to the file.
NVDA+Control+shift+R scans a paper document from the scanner...


Best regards,

Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team

Às 02:41 de 15/10/2021, Howard Traxler escreveu:

This looks like an NVDA addon.  Is it also a command line OCR app? I don't find that.

Howard

On 10/14/2021 6:23 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:

It was just a question of reading some more lines...

Quoting myself:

For free software, NAPS2, with a user interface or command line, and also packaged in an add-on by me, at:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ez2r125eilvhzi9/NAPS2TesseractOCR_1.0_Gen.nvda-addon?dl=1


Rui Fontes


Às 23:03 de 14/10/2021, mike mcglashon escreveu:

Quoting:

The add-on makes the two things...

End quote

To which add-on do you refer?

And,

Where can we get it?

Please advise as you like.

Mike M.

Mike mcglashon

Email: Michael.mcglashon@comcast.net <mailto:Michael.mcglashon@comcast.net>

Ph: 618 783 9331

*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Rui Fontes
*Sent:* Thursday, October 14, 2021 6:01 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] NVDA and OCR software

The add-on makes the two things...

NVDA+Control+R, in a selected file in File Explorer, makes OCR to the file.

NVDA+Control+shift+R scans a paper document from the scanner...

Rui Fontes

Às 22:51 de 14/10/2021, Dave Grossoehme escreveu:

    This is great if you need to scan a document into a PDF.
    However, is there any software or hardware/software that will
    take a PDF with a document that has beeen scanned into the PDF,
    and make that PDF of the scanned document be able to print.  I
    can use the windows OCR with NVDA to read the document, but can
    not print it.  Can you help me here?

    Dave

    On 10/11/2021 2:27 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:

        For a comercial product, FineReader 15...

        For free software, NAPS2, with a user interface or command
        line, and also packaged in an add-on by me, at:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ez2r125eilvhzi9/NAPS2TesseractOCR_1.0_Gen.nvda-addon?dl=1

        Best regards,

        Rui Fontes
        NVDA portuguese team

        Às 21:27 de 11/10/2021, cisco escreveu:

            Hello everyone,

            I do not know if this is a question better suited for the
            chat subgroup, if it is, please tell me.

            If it’s ok to post it here, however, here it goes: if you
            use any kind of OCR solution that can open and OCR PDFS
            and acquire images from scanners, what would you
            recommend for efficient use with NvDA?

            If that OCR had the ability to keep the formatting and
            layout of the document, that would be a much needed extra.

            Thanks for any answer.

            Best regards.

            Francisco.
Re: NVDA and OCR software

Howard Traxler
 

This looks like an NVDA addon.  Is it also a command line OCR app? I don't find that.

Howard

On 10/14/2021 6:23 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:

It was just a question of reading some more lines...

Quoting myself:

For free software, NAPS2, with a user interface or command line, and also packaged in an add-on by me, at:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ez2r125eilvhzi9/NAPS2TesseractOCR_1.0_Gen.nvda-addon?dl=1


Rui Fontes


Às 23:03 de 14/10/2021, mike mcglashon escreveu:

Quoting:

The add-on makes the two things...

End quote

To which add-on do you refer?

And,

Where can we get it?

Please advise as you like.

Mike M.

Mike mcglashon

Email: Michael.mcglashon@comcast.net <mailto:Michael.mcglashon@comcast.net>

Ph: 618 783 9331

*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Rui Fontes
*Sent:* Thursday, October 14, 2021 6:01 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] NVDA and OCR software

The add-on makes the two things...

NVDA+Control+R, in a selected file in File Explorer, makes OCR to the file.

NVDA+Control+shift+R scans a paper document from the scanner...

Rui Fontes

Às 22:51 de 14/10/2021, Dave Grossoehme escreveu:

This is great if you need to scan a document into a PDF. 
However, is there any software or hardware/software that will
take a PDF with a document that has beeen scanned into the PDF,
and make that PDF of the scanned document be able to print.  I
can use the windows OCR with NVDA to read the document, but can
not print it.  Can you help me here?

Dave

On 10/11/2021 2:27 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:

For a comercial product, FineReader 15...

For free software, NAPS2, with a user interface or command
line, and also packaged in an add-on by me, at:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ez2r125eilvhzi9/NAPS2TesseractOCR_1.0_Gen.nvda-addon?dl=1

Best regards,

Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team

Às 21:27 de 11/10/2021, cisco escreveu:

Hello everyone,

I do not know if this is a question better suited for the
chat subgroup, if it is, please tell me.

If it’s ok to post it here, however, here it goes: if you
use any kind of OCR solution that can open and OCR PDFS
and acquire images from scanners, what would you
recommend for efficient use with NvDA?

If that OCR had the ability to keep the formatting and
layout of the document, that would be a much needed extra.

Thanks for any answer.

Best regards.

Francisco.
Re: NVDA error checking for update

Brian Vogel
 

Then you are very likely having precisely the same issue I sent this Admin Notice for on October 2nd:


Update Checking Error for NVDA and Add-On Updater - Root Cause Identified, Workaround Given, Problem solved in 2021.3
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.

         ~ John F. Kennedy

 
Re: NVDA error checking for update

David Mehler
 

Hello,

I thought that as well, but at least here it's been going on for a few
days. I tried a couple of days ago, neither worked in the manner I
described above, so I thought ok maybe the servers are down so I
waited and of course forgot about it. Tonight I remembered, tried
again, and got the same results.

Thanks.
Dave.

On 10/14/21, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
How long has this been going on?   It is not at all unusual for the update
servers to have occasional, transient "burps" and the update to go just fine
anywhere from a couple of minutes to a couple of hours later.  (By the way,
this observation applies to many things other than NVDA, as any server can
go offline for a period of time).
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043

*The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.*

~ John F. Kennedy
Re: Navigation similar to the “vertical navigation” voiceover feature?

Luke Robinett
 

Hi Robert,
Thank you for the idea. I've tried that but it doesn't work, likely because the table isn't an actual HTML table and thus NVDA can't traverse it as such. Thanks again.

Luke

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 2:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Navigation similar to the “vertical navigation” voiceover feature?

try pressing alt+ctrl+down arrow when in a table.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Luke Robinett" <lukelistservs@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 12:26 PM
Subject: [nvda] Navigation similar to the “vertical navigation” voiceover feature?


Hi folks,
imagine I’ve got a webpage open and there is information on it that is visually laid out like a table but is not traversable as a table using NVDA.
I am on a column heading and I want to move focus directly below it to the first cellof that column. In iOS, there’s a rotor option called “vertical navigation” that allows me to do this easily. Is there any such functionality in NVDA? Unfortunately, the only way I’v found to get to that cell is to press control + down arrow repeatedly,traveling through all The other column headings first, making it sometimes impossible to know when I’ve actually arrived at the first item under that original column heading. I hope the description of the problem makes sense. Thank you for any tips or strategies.

Luke
Re: NVDA error checking for update

Brian Vogel
 

How long has this been going on?   It is not at all unusual for the update servers to have occasional, transient "burps" and the update to go just fine anywhere from a couple of minutes to a couple of hours later.  (By the way, this observation applies to many things other than NVDA, as any server can go offline for a period of time).
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.

         ~ John F. Kennedy

 
NVDA error checking for update

David Mehler
 

Hello,

I'm running NVDA 2021.2 and am trying to update both it and my
installed list of addons. In both cases I'm getting a message error
checking for update. This is on a windows 10 20h1 machine.

Anyone have a fix?

Thanks.
Dave.
Re: Thunderbird

Blake Roberts <BEarlRoberts@...>
 

My previous message in this thread provides a workaround for the problem presented (link to download Mozilla Apps Enhancements NVDA add-on). With the Mozilla add-on installed in NVDA, go to your Thunderbird message folder of choice. Press NVDAKey+H and rearrange message field columns there.

The issue of 0 announcements is caused by Thunderbird, not NVDA. I suggest that anyone in the NVDA group with Thunderbird-specific questions consider joining the Thunderbird group:
https://groups.io/g/thunderbird

The primary/intended audience is screen reader users. Thunderbird group email addresses are on that group's home page under "Group Email Addresses" heading including this one:
Subscribe: 
Blake
Re: Thunderbird

Blake Roberts <BEarlRoberts@...>
 

This TB issue appears to affect quite a few people. Two individuals have asked similar question in the Thunderbird group on groups.io during my membership there. The solution is installing Mozilla Apps Enhancements NVDA add-on:
https://nvda-addons.org/addon.php?id=5
Then use it to rearrange Thunderbird column headers. By columns I mean things such as to, from, subject, junkmail status... The 0 and 100 numbers beside messages are due to Thunderbird junkmail filtering. As I wrote in a recent Thunderbird group thread, my preference is to move the junk column from default location to next to last column. That way I hear "0" before the date/time stamp.

Blake
Re: NVDA and OCR software

Rui Fontes
 

It was just a question of reading some more lines...

Quoting myself:

For free software, NAPS2, with a user interface or command line, and also packaged in an add-on by me, at:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ez2r125eilvhzi9/NAPS2TesseractOCR_1.0_Gen.nvda-addon?dl=1


Rui Fontes


Às 23:03 de 14/10/2021, mike mcglashon escreveu:

Quoting:

The add-on makes the two things...

End quote

 

To which add-on do you refer?

And,

Where can we get it?

 

 

Please advise as you like.

 

Mike M.

 

Mike mcglashon

Email: Michael.mcglashon@...

Ph: 618 783 9331

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui Fontes
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 6:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and OCR software

 

The add-on makes the two things...

 

NVDA+Control+R, in a selected file in File Explorer, makes OCR to the file.

NVDA+Control+shift+R scans a paper document from the scanner...

 

Rui Fontes

 

Às 22:51 de 14/10/2021, Dave Grossoehme escreveu:

This is great if you need to scan a document into a PDF.  However, is there any software or hardware/software that will take a PDF with a document that has beeen scanned into the PDF, and make that PDF of the scanned document be able to print.  I can use the windows OCR with NVDA to read the document, but can not print it.  Can you help me here? 

Dave

 

On 10/11/2021 2:27 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:

For a comercial product, FineReader 15...

 

For free software, NAPS2, with a user interface or command line, and also packaged in an add-on by me, at:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ez2r125eilvhzi9/NAPS2TesseractOCR_1.0_Gen.nvda-addon?dl=1

 

Best regards, 
 
Rui Fontes  
NVDA portuguese team  

 

Às 21:27 de 11/10/2021, cisco escreveu:

Hello everyone,

 

I do not know if this is a question better suited for the chat subgroup, if it is, please tell me.

 

If it’s ok to post it here, however, here it goes: if you use any kind of OCR solution that can open and OCR PDFS and acquire images from scanners, what would you recommend for efficient use with NvDA?

 

If that OCR had the ability to keep the formatting and layout of the document, that would be a much needed extra.

 

Thanks for any answer.

Best regards.

Francisco.
Re: Navigation similar to the “vertical navigation” voiceover feature?

Tony Malykh
 

I developed BrowserNav add-on for this. NVDA+Alt+DownArrow does this. It searches for elements that have exactly the same x coordinate.

HTH

On 10/13/2021 11:26 AM, Luke Robinett wrote:
Hi folks,
imagine I’ve got a webpage open and there is information on it that is visually laid out like a table but is not traversable as a table using NVDA. I am on a column heading and I want to move focus directly below it to the first cellof that column. In iOS, there’s a rotor option called “vertical navigation” that allows me to do this easily. Is there any such functionality in NVDA? Unfortunately, the only way I’v found to get to that cell is to press control + down arrow repeatedly,traveling through all The other column headings first, making it sometimes impossible to know when I’ve actually arrived at the first item under that original column heading. I hope the description of the problem makes sense. Thank you for any tips or strategies.

Luke
Re: trouble with speech when selecting text

Quentin Christensen
 

The usual questions:

Have you restarted the PC recently (and especially since updating NVDA or anything else)?

Are you using any add-ons? If so, does restarting NVDA with them disabled make a difference?

What programs are you experiencing this in? If word etc, have you changed the advanced setting for using UIA?

I tried just now with NVDA 2021.2 and it behaves as expected in office 365 word and notepad (reading the newly selected text).

Quentin

On Fri, 15 Oct 2021, 7:42 am Sarah k Alawami, <marrie12@...> wrote:

I'm also having this issue. I thought it was my synth, eloquence. Can this be rfeproduced with the other synths out there?

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On 14 Oct 2021, at 9:47, JinYoun wrote:

Hi, I'm not sure when this behavior started, but when I select text by pressing shift plus the arrow keys, NVDA will read out all of the slected content instead of each character I'm selecting, which is very confusing for me. Is there a way to have NVDA just read out the character I've just selected instead of everything that has been selected?
Thank you  

Re: NVDA and OCR software

Brian Vogel
 

On Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 05:51 PM, Dave Grossoehme wrote:
However, is there any software or hardware/software that will take a PDF with a document that has been scanned into the PDF, and make that PDF of the scanned document be able to print.
-
You need to give something more here.  You just print a PDF from any PDF reader or editor.  It doesn't matter one bit if it is an image scanned origin PDF or one that was created as a PDF to begin with.
 
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Re: NVDA and OCR software

mike mcglashon
 

Quoting:

The add-on makes the two things...

End quote

 

To which add-on do you refer?

And,

Where can we get it?

 

 

Please advise as you like.

 

Mike M.

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui Fontes
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 6:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and OCR software

 

The add-on makes the two things...

 

NVDA+Control+R, in a selected file in File Explorer, makes OCR to the file.

NVDA+Control+shift+R scans a paper document from the scanner...

 

Rui Fontes

 

Às 22:51 de 14/10/2021, Dave Grossoehme escreveu:

This is great if you need to scan a document into a PDF.  However, is there any software or hardware/software that will take a PDF with a document that has beeen scanned into the PDF, and make that PDF of the scanned document be able to print.  I can use the windows OCR with NVDA to read the document, but can not print it.  Can you help me here? 

Dave

 

On 10/11/2021 2:27 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:

For a comercial product, FineReader 15...

 

For free software, NAPS2, with a user interface or command line, and also packaged in an add-on by me, at:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ez2r125eilvhzi9/NAPS2TesseractOCR_1.0_Gen.nvda-addon?dl=1

 

Best regards, 
 
Rui Fontes  
NVDA portuguese team  

 

Às 21:27 de 11/10/2021, cisco escreveu:

Hello everyone,

 

I do not know if this is a question better suited for the chat subgroup, if it is, please tell me.

 

If it’s ok to post it here, however, here it goes: if you use any kind of OCR solution that can open and OCR PDFS and acquire images from scanners, what would you recommend for efficient use with NvDA?

 

If that OCR had the ability to keep the formatting and layout of the document, that would be a much needed extra.

 

Thanks for any answer.

Best regards.

Francisco.
Re: NVDA and OCR software

Rui Fontes
 

The add-on makes the two things...


NVDA+Control+R, in a selected file in File Explorer, makes OCR to the file.

NVDA+Control+shift+R scans a paper document from the scanner...


Rui Fontes


Às 22:51 de 14/10/2021, Dave Grossoehme escreveu:

This is great if you need to scan a document into a PDF.  However, is there any software or hardware/software that will take a PDF with a document that has beeen scanned into the PDF, and make that PDF of the scanned document be able to print.  I can use the windows OCR with NVDA to read the document, but can not print it.  Can you help me here? 

Dave


On 10/11/2021 2:27 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:

For a comercial product, FineReader 15...


For free software, NAPS2, with a user interface or command line, and also packaged in an add-on by me, at:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ez2r125eilvhzi9/NAPS2TesseractOCR_1.0_Gen.nvda-addon?dl=1


Best regards, 
 
Rui Fontes  
NVDA portuguese team  


Às 21:27 de 11/10/2021, cisco escreveu:

Hello everyone,

 

I do not know if this is a question better suited for the chat subgroup, if it is, please tell me.

 

If it’s ok to post it here, however, here it goes: if you use any kind of OCR solution that can open and OCR PDFS and acquire images from scanners, what would you recommend for efficient use with NvDA?

 

If that OCR had the ability to keep the formatting and layout of the document, that would be a much needed extra.

 

Thanks for any answer.

Best regards.

Francisco.
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