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Re: Thunderbird

Gene
 

There is a close button after the options button.  use that  to close the interface.  I don't have the  latest attachment but in the previous version, if you have an item selected and then press options, you can down and up arrow through a lot of options.  If you tab instead, the list will close and you will be back in the program.  I wouldn't be surprised if the latest version works the same way.  It may have been updated for compatibility but no other changes may have been made. 


Gene

-----Original Message-----

I don't have the latest attachment but the previous one still opens a list when you press the button.  You evidentlyhave to be on an item in the first place before options opens a list. 

Gene

On 10/15/2021 1:18 PM, tim wrote:

It puts you in a list. Just arrow to the one you want to move. Then tab to either up or down button.

You can shift + tab back to the list to see how far you moved. Then tab to options and hit enter it use to do more but now it just closes out.

On 10/15/2021 9:13 AM, AKH AKH wrote:

Tim


I've found Headers in the view menu, but where do I go to find the rearrange headers options, please. I have the add on installed.


Andrew


On 15/10/2021 13:21, tim wrote:

You can use that add on to move it to the last of the line.

However, don't hit option or it will close that is broke!


On 10/14/2021 7:48 PM, Blake Roberts via groups.io wrote:
This TB issue appears to affect quite a few people. Two individuals have asked similar question in the Thunderbird group on groups.io during my membership there. The solution is installing Mozilla Apps Enhancements NVDA add-on:
https://nvda-addons.org/addon.php?id=5
Then use it to rearrange Thunderbird column headers. By columns I mean things such as to, from, subject, junkmail status... The 0 and 100 numbers beside messages are due to Thunderbird junkmail filtering. As I wrote in a recent Thunderbird group thread, my preference is to move the junk column from default location to next to last column. That way I hear "0" before the date/time stamp.

Blake


Re: Thunderbird

tim
 

It puts you in a list. Just arrow to the one you want to move. Then tab to either up or down button.

You can shift + tab back to the list to see how far you moved. Then tab to options and hit enter it use to do more but now it just closes out.

On 10/15/2021 9:13 AM, AKH AKH wrote:

Tim


I've found Headers in the view menu, but where do I go to find the rearrange headers options, please. I have the add on installed.


Andrew


On 15/10/2021 13:21, tim wrote:

You can use that add on to move it to the last of the line.

However, don't hit option or it will close that is broke!


On 10/14/2021 7:48 PM, Blake Roberts via groups.io wrote:
This TB issue appears to affect quite a few people. Two individuals have asked similar question in the Thunderbird group on groups.io during my membership there. The solution is installing Mozilla Apps Enhancements NVDA add-on:
https://nvda-addons.org/addon.php?id=5
Then use it to rearrange Thunderbird column headers. By columns I mean things such as to, from, subject, junkmail status... The 0 and 100 numbers beside messages are due to Thunderbird junkmail filtering. As I wrote in a recent Thunderbird group thread, my preference is to move the junk column from default location to next to last column. That way I hear "0" before the date/time stamp.

Blake


Re: NVDA error checking for update

brice Mijares
 

Thank you.

On 10/15/2021 7:35 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 10:27 AM, brice Mijares wrote:

How do I rectify this issue?

-
Please review the content of this entire topic, which should be in your email client as a thread/conversation.  But, in case you've been deleting as this entire topic has unspooled in less than the last 12 hours, see the admin notice I posted:

Update Checking Error for NVDA and Add-On Updater - Root Cause Identified, Workaround Given, Problem solved in 2021.3 <https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/message/88232?p=%2C%2C%2C20%2C0%2C0%2C0%3A%3Arecentpostdate%2Fsticky%2C%2Cadd-on+updater%2C20%2C2%2C0%2C86028599>

As well as Quentin Christensen's message in this very topic: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/message/88767

It is getting very, very frustrating for me, as a moderator, to constantly see requests for the reposting of material offered within the past 24 hours.  That should never, ever be necessary, and particularly on an emailing list.  Items that recent, even if deleted, should be in your trash folder.  We also have a group archive, and an easily searchable one, for a reason.  The long-time membership should be using it as needed.
--

Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043

*The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.*

         ~ John F. Kennedy


Re: NVDA error checking for update

 

On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 10:27 AM, brice Mijares wrote:
How do I rectify this issue?
-
Please review the content of this entire topic, which should be in your email client as a thread/conversation.  But, in case you've been deleting as this entire topic has unspooled in less than the last 12 hours, see the admin notice I posted:

Update Checking Error for NVDA and Add-On Updater - Root Cause Identified, Workaround Given, Problem solved in 2021.3

As well as Quentin Christensen's message in this very topic:  https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/message/88767 

It is getting very, very frustrating for me, as a moderator, to constantly see requests for the reposting of material offered within the past 24 hours.  That should never, ever be necessary, and particularly on an emailing list.  Items that recent, even if deleted, should be in your trash folder.  We also have a group archive, and an easily searchable one, for a reason.  The long-time membership should be using it as needed.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.

         ~ John F. Kennedy

 


Re: NVDA error checking for update

brice Mijares
 

I am also having this problem. I remember discussion on this topic a few weeks ago, but didn't pay attention as I wasn't affected using my new laptop, but my Lenovo that is about 6 years old encountered this error message when checking for NVDA app updates. How do I rectify this issue? Thank You Kindly.

On 10/15/2021 6:31 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,

The actual issue has to do with NVDA not catching the right error when detecting certificate issues.

To Quentin: may I suggest putting the workarounds for this issue in the next In-Process blog post please?

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: nvda and acapela voices

Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...>
 

no the codeFactory addon is not installed at all. 


Re: Thunderbird

Gene
 

The command to open the rearrange dialog is NVDA key h.  You are in a list of headers.  Move to the one you want and use the move up and move down buttons.  When finished activate the done button.  Use the space bar on the buttons.
 
Gene

From: AKH AKH
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2021 8:13 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Thunderbird
 

Tim

 

I've found Headers in the view menu, but where do I go to find the rearrange headers options, please. I have the add on installed.

 

Andrew

 

On 15/10/2021 13:21, tim wrote:

You can use that add on to move it to the last of the line.

However, don't hit option or it will close that is broke!

 

On 10/14/2021 7:48 PM, Blake Roberts via groups.io wrote:
This TB issue appears to affect quite a few people. Two individuals have asked similar question in the Thunderbird group on groups.io during my membership there. The solution is installing Mozilla Apps Enhancements NVDA add-on:
https://nvda-addons.org/addon.php?id=5
Then use it to rearrange Thunderbird column headers. By columns I mean things such as to, from, subject, junkmail status... The 0 and 100 numbers beside messages are due to Thunderbird junkmail filtering. As I wrote in a recent Thunderbird group thread, my preference is to move the junk column from default location to next to last column. That way I hear "0" before the date/time stamp.

Blake


Re: Thunderbird

Daniel McGee
 

Hello Andrew


I'm currently trying out this addon my self. From the instructions pasted here for convenience directly from the addon site.


NVDA+H Displays a dialog in which you can change the order of the columns in the message list.


Also link directly to the addon page for instructions to reference.


HTH



Daniel

Mozilla Apps Enhancements (nvda-project.org)

On 16/10/2021 02:13, AKH AKH wrote:

Tim


I've found Headers in the view menu, but where do I go to find the rearrange headers options, please. I have the add on installed.


Andrew


On 15/10/2021 13:21, tim wrote:

You can use that add on to move it to the last of the line.

However, don't hit option or it will close that is broke!


On 10/14/2021 7:48 PM, Blake Roberts via groups.io wrote:
This TB issue appears to affect quite a few people. Two individuals have asked similar question in the Thunderbird group on groups.io during my membership there. The solution is installing Mozilla Apps Enhancements NVDA add-on:
https://nvda-addons.org/addon.php?id=5
Then use it to rearrange Thunderbird column headers. By columns I mean things such as to, from, subject, junkmail status... The 0 and 100 numbers beside messages are due to Thunderbird junkmail filtering. As I wrote in a recent Thunderbird group thread, my preference is to move the junk column from default location to next to last column. That way I hear "0" before the date/time stamp.

Blake


Re: NVDA error checking for update

 

Hi,

The actual issue has to do with NVDA not catching the right error when detecting certificate issues.

To Quentin: may I suggest putting the workarounds for this issue in the next In-Process blog post please?

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: NVDA and OCR software

Rui Fontes
 

Christo and Cisco, please send to rui.fontes@... a NVDA log...


Rui Fontes


Às 13:42 de 15/10/2021, Christo de Klerk escreveu:

Hi Rui

I have not been able to get the addon to perform OCR on image PDF files. It tells me that the process could take some seconds and after some seconds it says: "Error. The file could not be processed." This happens to all scanned PDF files I have tried. Do you perhaps have any thoughts as to what might cause the problem? This could be such a very handy addon.

Kind regards

Christo


On 2021/10/15 12:00am, Rui Fontes wrote:

The add-on makes the two things...


NVDA+Control+R, in a selected file in File Explorer, makes OCR to the file.

NVDA+Control+shift+R scans a paper document from the scanner...


Rui Fontes


Às 22:51 de 14/10/2021, Dave Grossoehme escreveu:

This is great if you need to scan a document into a PDF.  However, is there any software or hardware/software that will take a PDF with a document that has beeen scanned into the PDF, and make that PDF of the scanned document be able to print.  I can use the windows OCR with NVDA to read the document, but can not print it.  Can you help me here? 

Dave


On 10/11/2021 2:27 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:

For a comercial product, FineReader 15...


For free software, NAPS2, with a user interface or command line, and also packaged in an add-on by me, at:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ez2r125eilvhzi9/NAPS2TesseractOCR_1.0_Gen.nvda-addon?dl=1


Best regards, 
 
Rui Fontes  
NVDA portuguese team  


Às 21:27 de 11/10/2021, cisco escreveu:

Hello everyone,

 

I do not know if this is a question better suited for the chat subgroup, if it is, please tell me.

 

If it’s ok to post it here, however, here it goes: if you use any kind of OCR solution that can open and OCR PDFS and acquire images from scanners, what would you recommend for efficient use with NvDA?

 

If that OCR had the ability to keep the formatting and layout of the document, that would be a much needed extra.

 

Thanks for any answer.

Best regards.

Francisco.



Re: Thunderbird

AKH AKH
 

Tim


I've found Headers in the view menu, but where do I go to find the rearrange headers options, please. I have the add on installed.


Andrew


On 15/10/2021 13:21, tim wrote:

You can use that add on to move it to the last of the line.

However, don't hit option or it will close that is broke!


On 10/14/2021 7:48 PM, Blake Roberts via groups.io wrote:
This TB issue appears to affect quite a few people. Two individuals have asked similar question in the Thunderbird group on groups.io during my membership there. The solution is installing Mozilla Apps Enhancements NVDA add-on:
https://nvda-addons.org/addon.php?id=5
Then use it to rearrange Thunderbird column headers. By columns I mean things such as to, from, subject, junkmail status... The 0 and 100 numbers beside messages are due to Thunderbird junkmail filtering. As I wrote in a recent Thunderbird group thread, my preference is to move the junk column from default location to next to last column. That way I hear "0" before the date/time stamp.

Blake


Re: NVDA and OCR software

Christo de Klerk
 

Hi Rui

I have not been able to get the addon to perform OCR on image PDF files. It tells me that the process could take some seconds and after some seconds it says: "Error. The file could not be processed." This happens to all scanned PDF files I have tried. Do you perhaps have any thoughts as to what might cause the problem? This could be such a very handy addon.

Kind regards

Christo


On 2021/10/15 12:00am, Rui Fontes wrote:

The add-on makes the two things...


NVDA+Control+R, in a selected file in File Explorer, makes OCR to the file.

NVDA+Control+shift+R scans a paper document from the scanner...


Rui Fontes


Às 22:51 de 14/10/2021, Dave Grossoehme escreveu:

This is great if you need to scan a document into a PDF.  However, is there any software or hardware/software that will take a PDF with a document that has beeen scanned into the PDF, and make that PDF of the scanned document be able to print.  I can use the windows OCR with NVDA to read the document, but can not print it.  Can you help me here? 

Dave


On 10/11/2021 2:27 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:

For a comercial product, FineReader 15...


For free software, NAPS2, with a user interface or command line, and also packaged in an add-on by me, at:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ez2r125eilvhzi9/NAPS2TesseractOCR_1.0_Gen.nvda-addon?dl=1


Best regards, 
 
Rui Fontes  
NVDA portuguese team  


Às 21:27 de 11/10/2021, cisco escreveu:

Hello everyone,

 

I do not know if this is a question better suited for the chat subgroup, if it is, please tell me.

 

If it’s ok to post it here, however, here it goes: if you use any kind of OCR solution that can open and OCR PDFS and acquire images from scanners, what would you recommend for efficient use with NvDA?

 

If that OCR had the ability to keep the formatting and layout of the document, that would be a much needed extra.

 

Thanks for any answer.

Best regards.

Francisco.



Re: NVDA and OCR software

cisco
 

Hello there,

 

I am having a problem with the NAPS2OCR addon: when I press ctrl+nvda+shift+r to scan a document from a scanner, nvda announces that the file couldn’t be recognized, though my scanner is plugged via USB to the pc and turned on.

 

Also, when I press the shortcut key to scan a file and I’m focused on it with file explorer and nvda, it says to wait, that the processing might take a few seconds, and stops there.

 

What could be causing this?

Thanks for any answer.

Best regards.

Francisco.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui Fontes
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2021 12:01 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and OCR software

 

The add-on makes the two things...

 

NVDA+Control+R, in a selected file in File Explorer, makes OCR to the file.

NVDA+Control+shift+R scans a paper document from the scanner...

 

Rui Fontes

 

Às 22:51 de 14/10/2021, Dave Grossoehme escreveu:

This is great if you need to scan a document into a PDF.  However, is there any software or hardware/software that will take a PDF with a document that has beeen scanned into the PDF, and make that PDF of the scanned document be able to print.  I can use the windows OCR with NVDA to read the document, but can not print it.  Can you help me here? 

Dave

 

On 10/11/2021 2:27 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:

For a comercial product, FineReader 15...

 

For free software, NAPS2, with a user interface or command line, and also packaged in an add-on by me, at:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ez2r125eilvhzi9/NAPS2TesseractOCR_1.0_Gen.nvda-addon?dl=1

 

Best regards, 
 
Rui Fontes  
NVDA portuguese team  

 

Às 21:27 de 11/10/2021, cisco escreveu:

Hello everyone,

 

I do not know if this is a question better suited for the chat subgroup, if it is, please tell me.

 

If it’s ok to post it here, however, here it goes: if you use any kind of OCR solution that can open and OCR PDFS and acquire images from scanners, what would you recommend for efficient use with NvDA?

 

If that OCR had the ability to keep the formatting and layout of the document, that would be a much needed extra.

 

Thanks for any answer.

Best regards.

Francisco.


Re: Thunderbird

tim
 

You can use that add on to move it to the last of the line.

However, don't hit option or it will close that is broke!


On 10/14/2021 7:48 PM, Blake Roberts via groups.io wrote:
This TB issue appears to affect quite a few people. Two individuals have asked similar question in the Thunderbird group on groups.io during my membership there. The solution is installing Mozilla Apps Enhancements NVDA add-on:
https://nvda-addons.org/addon.php?id=5
Then use it to rearrange Thunderbird column headers. By columns I mean things such as to, from, subject, junkmail status... The 0 and 100 numbers beside messages are due to Thunderbird junkmail filtering. As I wrote in a recent Thunderbird group thread, my preference is to move the junk column from default location to next to last column. That way I hear "0" before the date/time stamp.

Blake


Re: Navigation similar to the “vertical navigation” voiceover feature?

William
 

I know some website intended to prevent people from scraping their data, they intended not to make those data to be put in a proper table.

Besides, I also seeing some website simply just use spaces to make data visually like arranged in a table.


Encountering these data really feel annoying.



Gene 於 15/10/2021 9:59 寫道:

Unfortunately, as I thought about it, I realized the support screen layout option in NVDA wouldn’t work.  The screen layout probably is the same as a table, but without code that lets a screen-reader work with it.  So you must read by line and see everything on the line you move to.
 
Is there a possibility that NVDA could have a feature where you set a start point and an end point and only have what is between those points read as you move up and down by line? 
If so, I could set a start and end point so that each line I moved to would only have the third item from the left announced, for example.  And if something like a book appears on  screen in columns, I could set the start and end point to read one column.
This may not be possible in Windows.  This isn’t my idea, it was done decades ago in a DOS screen-reader, ASAP.  If it could be done in Windows screen-readers, it probably would have been but I don’t want to assume.
 
Gene
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 8:26 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Navigation similar to the “vertical navigation” voiceover feature?
 
Hi Robert,
Thank you for the idea. I've tried that but it doesn't work, likely because the table isn't an actual HTML table and thus NVDA can't  traverse it as such. Thanks again.

Luke


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 2:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Navigation similar to the “vertical navigation” voiceover feature?

try pressing alt+ctrl+down arrow when in a table.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Luke Robinett" <lukelistservs@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 12:26 PM
Subject: [nvda] Navigation similar to the “vertical navigation” voiceover feature?


Hi folks,
imagine I’ve got a webpage open and there is information on it that is visually laid out like a table but is not traversable as a table using NVDA.
I am on a column heading and I want to move focus directly below it to the first cellof that column. In iOS, there’s a rotor option called “vertical navigation” that allows me to do this easily. Is there any such functionality in NVDA? Unfortunately, the only way I’v found  to get to that cell is to press control + down arrow repeatedly,traveling through all The other column headings first, making it sometimes impossible to know when I’ve actually arrived at the first item under that original column heading. I hope the description of the problem makes sense. Thank you for any tips or strategies.

Luke
















Re: NVDA error checking for update

dennis huckle <denniswhuckle@...>
 

Hello again,

It’s a credit to nvda that these issues are dealt with promptly and that you also give an explanation.

Lets hope other screen reader providers learn the lesson.

Many thanks,

Kind regards,

Dennis huckle.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: 15 October 2021 03:18
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA error checking for update

 

The issue is because our security provider updated their certificate, but it doesn't automatically propagate to everyone.  The number of messages I've seen about it leads me to think that actually most users DO have the updated Windows certificates, but for whatever reason, not everyone does, and it is not one set of users - eg it's not related to a specific version of Windows.

 

Another fix for this is an add-on which was made by Mazen428 on GitHub: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/files/7269883/NvdaCertPatch.zip  It does show an error message, but it fixes the problem and automatically uninstalls itself.

 

We've put in a fix in alpha builds which will be in NVDA 2021.3 and later to endeavour to stop this from happening again in the future, but users affected now will need to implement one of the fixes now as well.

 

On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 1:11 PM David Mehler <dave.mehler@...> wrote:

Hello,

Thanks,  that did it. Punched in that line of python code and ran
update check worked just fine got the latest updates.

One thing how I missed it, the message led me to believe it occurred
only to new windows 10 installs that had not connected to the
internet, this in my case was not the case. But it is working now.
Thanks.
Dave.


On 10/14/21, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
> Then you are very likely having precisely the same issue I sent this Admin
> Notice for on October 2nd:
>
> Update Checking Error for NVDA and Add - On Updater - Root Cause Identified,
> Workaround Given, Problem solved in 2021.3 (
> https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/message/88232?p=%2C%2C%2C20%2C0%2C0%2C0%3A%3Arecentpostdate%2Fsticky%2C%2Cadd-on+updater%2C20%2C2%2C0%2C86028599
> )
>
> --
>
> Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043
>
> *The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.*
>
> ~ John F. Kennedy
>
>
>
>
>
>





 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 


Re: NVDA error checking for update

Quentin Christensen
 

The issue is because our security provider updated their certificate, but it doesn't automatically propagate to everyone.  The number of messages I've seen about it leads me to think that actually most users DO have the updated Windows certificates, but for whatever reason, not everyone does, and it is not one set of users - eg it's not related to a specific version of Windows.

Another fix for this is an add-on which was made by Mazen428 on GitHub: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/files/7269883/NvdaCertPatch.zip  It does show an error message, but it fixes the problem and automatically uninstalls itself.

We've put in a fix in alpha builds which will be in NVDA 2021.3 and later to endeavour to stop this from happening again in the future, but users affected now will need to implement one of the fixes now as well.

On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 1:11 PM David Mehler <dave.mehler@...> wrote:
Hello,

Thanks,  that did it. Punched in that line of python code and ran
update check worked just fine got the latest updates.

One thing how I missed it, the message led me to believe it occurred
only to new windows 10 installs that had not connected to the
internet, this in my case was not the case. But it is working now.
Thanks.
Dave.


On 10/14/21, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
> Then you are very likely having precisely the same issue I sent this Admin
> Notice for on October 2nd:
>
> Update Checking Error for NVDA and Add - On Updater - Root Cause Identified,
> Workaround Given, Problem solved in 2021.3 (
> https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/message/88232?p=%2C%2C%2C20%2C0%2C0%2C0%3A%3Arecentpostdate%2Fsticky%2C%2Cadd-on+updater%2C20%2C2%2C0%2C86028599
> )
>
> --
>
> Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043
>
> *The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.*
>
> ~ John F. Kennedy
>
>
>
>
>
>







--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: NVDA error checking for update

David Mehler
 

Hello,

Thanks, that did it. Punched in that line of python code and ran
update check worked just fine got the latest updates.

One thing how I missed it, the message led me to believe it occurred
only to new windows 10 installs that had not connected to the
internet, this in my case was not the case. But it is working now.
Thanks.
Dave.

On 10/14/21, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
Then you are very likely having precisely the same issue I sent this Admin
Notice for on October 2nd:

Update Checking Error for NVDA and Add - On Updater - Root Cause Identified,
Workaround Given, Problem solved in 2021.3 (
https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/message/88232?p=%2C%2C%2C20%2C0%2C0%2C0%3A%3Arecentpostdate%2Fsticky%2C%2Cadd-on+updater%2C20%2C2%2C0%2C86028599
)

--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043

*The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.*

~ John F. Kennedy






Re: Navigation similar to the “vertical navigation” voiceover feature?

Gene
 

Unfortunately, as I thought about it, I realized the support screen layout option in NVDA wouldn’t work.  The screen layout probably is the same as a table, but without code that lets a screen-reader work with it.  So you must read by line and see everything on the line you move to.
 
Is there a possibility that NVDA could have a feature where you set a start point and an end point and only have what is between those points read as you move up and down by line? 
If so, I could set a start and end point so that each line I moved to would only have the third item from the left announced, for example.  And if something like a book appears on  screen in columns, I could set the start and end point to read one column.
This may not be possible in Windows.  This isn’t my idea, it was done decades ago in a DOS screen-reader, ASAP.  If it could be done in Windows screen-readers, it probably would have been but I don’t want to assume.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 8:26 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Navigation similar to the “vertical navigation” voiceover feature?
 
Hi Robert,
Thank you for the idea. I've tried that but it doesn't work, likely because the table isn't an actual HTML table and thus NVDA can't  traverse it as such. Thanks again.

Luke


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 2:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Navigation similar to the “vertical navigation” voiceover feature?

try pressing alt+ctrl+down arrow when in a table.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Luke Robinett" <lukelistservs@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 12:26 PM
Subject: [nvda] Navigation similar to the “vertical navigation” voiceover feature?


Hi folks,
imagine I’ve got a webpage open and there is information on it that is visually laid out like a table but is not traversable as a table using NVDA.
I am on a column heading and I want to move focus directly below it to the first cellof that column. In iOS, there’s a rotor option called “vertical navigation” that allows me to do this easily. Is there any such functionality in NVDA? Unfortunately, the only way I’v found  to get to that cell is to press control + down arrow repeatedly,traveling through all The other column headings first, making it sometimes impossible to know when I’ve actually arrived at the first item under that original column heading. I hope the description of the problem makes sense. Thank you for any tips or strategies.

Luke
















Re: NVDA and OCR software

Rui Fontes
 

It is a NVDA add-on that includes a command line OCR, NAPS2...


The add-on makes the two things...
NVDA+Control+R, in a selected file in File Explorer, makes OCR to the file.
NVDA+Control+shift+R scans a paper document from the scanner...


Best regards,

Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team

Às 02:41 de 15/10/2021, Howard Traxler escreveu:

This looks like an NVDA addon.  Is it also a command line OCR app? I don't find that.

Howard

On 10/14/2021 6:23 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:

It was just a question of reading some more lines...

Quoting myself:

For free software, NAPS2, with a user interface or command line, and also packaged in an add-on by me, at:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ez2r125eilvhzi9/NAPS2TesseractOCR_1.0_Gen.nvda-addon?dl=1


Rui Fontes


Às 23:03 de 14/10/2021, mike mcglashon escreveu:

Quoting:

The add-on makes the two things...

End quote

To which add-on do you refer?

And,

Where can we get it?

Please advise as you like.

Mike M.

Mike mcglashon

Email: Michael.mcglashon@comcast.net <mailto:Michael.mcglashon@comcast.net>

Ph: 618 783 9331

*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Rui Fontes
*Sent:* Thursday, October 14, 2021 6:01 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] NVDA and OCR software

The add-on makes the two things...

NVDA+Control+R, in a selected file in File Explorer, makes OCR to the file.

NVDA+Control+shift+R scans a paper document from the scanner...

Rui Fontes

Às 22:51 de 14/10/2021, Dave Grossoehme escreveu:

    This is great if you need to scan a document into a PDF.
    However, is there any software or hardware/software that will
    take a PDF with a document that has beeen scanned into the PDF,
    and make that PDF of the scanned document be able to print.  I
    can use the windows OCR with NVDA to read the document, but can
    not print it.  Can you help me here?

    Dave

    On 10/11/2021 2:27 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:

        For a comercial product, FineReader 15...

        For free software, NAPS2, with a user interface or command
        line, and also packaged in an add-on by me, at:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ez2r125eilvhzi9/NAPS2TesseractOCR_1.0_Gen.nvda-addon?dl=1

        Best regards,

        Rui Fontes
        NVDA portuguese team

        Às 21:27 de 11/10/2021, cisco escreveu:

            Hello everyone,

            I do not know if this is a question better suited for the
            chat subgroup, if it is, please tell me.

            If it’s ok to post it here, however, here it goes: if you
            use any kind of OCR solution that can open and OCR PDFS
            and acquire images from scanners, what would you
            recommend for efficient use with NvDA?

            If that OCR had the ability to keep the formatting and
            layout of the document, that would be a much needed extra.

            Thanks for any answer.

            Best regards.

            Francisco.



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