I don't have the latest attachment but the previous one still opens a list when you press the button.  You evidentlyhave to be on an item in the first place before options opens a list. 

Gene

It puts you in a list. Just arrow to the one you want to move. Then tab to either up or down button.

You can shift + tab back to the list to see how far you moved. Then tab to options and hit enter it use to do more but now it just closes out.

On 10/15/2021 9:13 AM, AKH AKH wrote:

Tim

I've found Headers in the view menu, but where do I go to find the rearrange headers options, please. I have the add on installed.

Andrew

On 15/10/2021 13:21, tim wrote:

You can use that add on to move it to the last of the line.

However, don't hit option or it will close that is broke!

On 10/14/2021 7:48 PM, Blake Roberts via groups.io wrote:

This TB issue appears to affect quite a few people. Two individuals have asked similar question in the Thunderbird group on groups.io during my membership there. The solution is installing Mozilla Apps Enhancements NVDA add-on:
https://nvda-addons.org/addon.php?id=5
Then use it to rearrange Thunderbird column headers. By columns I mean things such as to, from, subject, junkmail status... The 0 and 100 numbers beside messages are due to Thunderbird junkmail filtering. As I wrote in a recent Thunderbird group thread, my preference is to move the junk column from default location to next to last column. That way I hear "0" before the date/time stamp.

Blake

Tim

I've found Headers in the view menu, but where do I go to find the rearrange headers options, please. I have the add on installed.

Andrew

On 15/10/2021 13:21, tim wrote:

You can use that add on to move it to the last of the line.

However, don't hit option or it will close that is broke!

On 10/14/2021 7:48 PM, Blake Roberts via groups.io wrote:

This TB issue appears to affect quite a few people. Two individuals have asked similar question in the Thunderbird group on groups.io during my membership there. The solution is installing Mozilla Apps Enhancements NVDA add-on:
https://nvda-addons.org/addon.php?id=5
Then use it to rearrange Thunderbird column headers. By columns I mean things such as to, from, subject, junkmail status... The 0 and 100 numbers beside messages are due to Thunderbird junkmail filtering. As I wrote in a recent Thunderbird group thread, my preference is to move the junk column from default location to next to last column. That way I hear "0" before the date/time stamp.

Blake

On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 10:27 AM, brice Mijares wrote:

How do I rectify this issue?

-
Please review the content of this entire topic, which should be in your email client as a thread/conversation.  But, in case you've been deleting as this entire topic has unspooled in less than the last 12 hours, see the admin notice I posted:

Update Checking Error for NVDA and Add-On Updater - Root Cause Identified, Workaround Given, Problem solved in 2021.3 <https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/message/88232?p=%2C%2C%2C20%2C0%2C0%2C0%3A%3Arecentpostdate%2Fsticky%2C%2Cadd-on+updater%2C20%2C2%2C0%2C86028599>

As well as Quentin Christensen's message in this very topic: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/message/88767

It is getting very, very frustrating for me, as a moderator, to constantly see requests for the reposting of material offered within the past 24 hours.  That should never, ever be necessary, and particularly on an emailing list.  Items that recent, even if deleted, should be in your trash folder.  We also have a group archive, and an easily searchable one, for a reason.  The long-time membership should be using it as needed.
--

Brian -Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043

*The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.*

         ~ John F. Kennedy

Hi,

The actual issue has to do with NVDA not catching the right error when detecting certificate issues.

To Quentin: may I suggest putting the workarounds for this issue in the next In-Process blog post please?

Cheers,

Joseph

Tim

I've found Headers in the view menu, but where do I go to find the rearrange headers options, please. I have the add on installed.

Andrew

On 15/10/2021 13:21, tim wrote:

You can use that add on to move it to the last of the line.

However, don't hit option or it will close that is broke!

On 10/14/2021 7:48 PM, Blake Roberts via groups.io wrote:

This TB issue appears to affect quite a few people. Two individuals have asked similar question in the Thunderbird group on groups.io during my membership there. The solution is installing Mozilla Apps Enhancements NVDA add-on:
https://nvda-addons.org/addon.php?id=5
Then use it to rearrange Thunderbird column headers. By columns I mean things such as to, from, subject, junkmail status... The 0 and 100 numbers beside messages are due to Thunderbird junkmail filtering. As I wrote in a recent Thunderbird group thread, my preference is to move the junk column from default location to next to last column. That way I hear "0" before the date/time stamp.

Blake

Hi Rui

I have not been able to get the addon to perform OCR on image PDF files. It tells me that the process could take some seconds and after some seconds it says: "Error. The file could not be processed." This happens to all scanned PDF files I have tried. Do you perhaps have any thoughts as to what might cause the problem? This could be such a very handy addon.

Kind regards

Christo

On 2021/10/15 12:00am, Rui Fontes wrote:

The add-on makes the two things...

NVDA+Control+R, in a selected file in File Explorer, makes OCR to the file.

NVDA+Control+shift+R scans a paper document from the scanner...

Rui Fontes

Às 22:51 de 14/10/2021, Dave Grossoehme escreveu:

This is great if you need to scan a document into a PDF.  However, is there any software or hardware/software that will take a PDF with a document that has beeen scanned into the PDF, and make that PDF of the scanned document be able to print.  I can use the windows OCR with NVDA to read the document, but can not print it.  Can you help me here? 

Dave

On 10/11/2021 2:27 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:

For a comercial product, FineReader 15...

For free software, NAPS2, with a user interface or command line, and also packaged in an add-on by me, at:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ez2r125eilvhzi9/NAPS2TesseractOCR_1.0_Gen.nvda-addon?dl=1

Best regards, 
 
Rui Fontes  
NVDA portuguese team  

Às 21:27 de 11/10/2021, cisco escreveu:

Hello everyone,

 

I do not know if this is a question better suited for the chat subgroup, if it is, please tell me.

 

If it’s ok to post it here, however, here it goes: if you use any kind of OCR solution that can open and OCR PDFS and acquire images from scanners, what would you recommend for efficient use with NvDA?

 

If that OCR had the ability to keep the formatting and layout of the document, that would be a much needed extra.

 

Thanks for any answer.

Best regards.

Francisco.

You can use that add on to move it to the last of the line.

However, don't hit option or it will close that is broke!

On 10/14/2021 7:48 PM, Blake Roberts via groups.io wrote:

This TB issue appears to affect quite a few people. Two individuals have asked similar question in the Thunderbird group on groups.io during my membership there. The solution is installing Mozilla Apps Enhancements NVDA add-on:
https://nvda-addons.org/addon.php?id=5
Then use it to rearrange Thunderbird column headers. By columns I mean things such as to, from, subject, junkmail status... The 0 and 100 numbers beside messages are due to Thunderbird junkmail filtering. As I wrote in a recent Thunderbird group thread, my preference is to move the junk column from default location to next to last column. That way I hear "0" before the date/time stamp.

Blake

The add-on makes the two things...

NVDA+Control+R, in a selected file in File Explorer, makes OCR to the file.

NVDA+Control+shift+R scans a paper document from the scanner...

Rui Fontes

Às 22:51 de 14/10/2021, Dave Grossoehme escreveu:

This is great if you need to scan a document into a PDF.  However, is there any software or hardware/software that will take a PDF with a document that has beeen scanned into the PDF, and make that PDF of the scanned document be able to print.  I can use the windows OCR with NVDA to read the document, but can not print it.  Can you help me here? 

Dave

On 10/11/2021 2:27 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:

For a comercial product, FineReader 15...

For free software, NAPS2, with a user interface or command line, and also packaged in an add-on by me, at:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ez2r125eilvhzi9/NAPS2TesseractOCR_1.0_Gen.nvda-addon?dl=1

Best regards, 
 
Rui Fontes  
NVDA portuguese team  

Às 21:27 de 11/10/2021, cisco escreveu:

Hello everyone,

 

I do not know if this is a question better suited for the chat subgroup, if it is, please tell me.

 

If it’s ok to post it here, however, here it goes: if you use any kind of OCR solution that can open and OCR PDFS and acquire images from scanners, what would you recommend for efficient use with NvDA?

 

If that OCR had the ability to keep the formatting and layout of the document, that would be a much needed extra.

 

Thanks for any answer.

Best regards.

Francisco.

The add-on makes the two things...

NVDA+Control+R, in a selected file in File Explorer, makes OCR to the file.

NVDA+Control+shift+R scans a paper document from the scanner...

Rui Fontes

This is great if you need to scan a document into a PDF.  However, is there any software or hardware/software that will take a PDF with a document that has beeen scanned into the PDF, and make that PDF of the scanned document be able to print.  I can use the windows OCR with NVDA to read the document, but can not print it.  Can you help me here? 

Dave

 

On 10/11/2021 2:27 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:

For a comercial product, FineReader 15...

 

For free software, NAPS2, with a user interface or command line, and also packaged in an add-on by me, at:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ez2r125eilvhzi9/NAPS2TesseractOCR_1.0_Gen.nvda-addon?dl=1

 

Best regards, 
 
Rui Fontes  
NVDA portuguese team  

 

Às 21:27 de 11/10/2021, cisco escreveu:

Hello everyone,

 

I do not know if this is a question better suited for the chat subgroup, if it is, please tell me.

 

If it’s ok to post it here, however, here it goes: if you use any kind of OCR solution that can open and OCR PDFS and acquire images from scanners, what would you recommend for efficient use with NvDA?

 

If that OCR had the ability to keep the formatting and layout of the document, that would be a much needed extra.

 

Thanks for any answer.

Best regards.

Francisco.

This TB issue appears to affect quite a few people. Two individuals have asked similar question in the Thunderbird group on groups.io during my membership there. The solution is installing Mozilla Apps Enhancements NVDA add-on:
https://nvda-addons.org/addon.php?id=5
Then use it to rearrange Thunderbird column headers. By columns I mean things such as to, from, subject, junkmail status... The 0 and 100 numbers beside messages are due to Thunderbird junkmail filtering. As I wrote in a recent Thunderbird group thread, my preference is to move the junk column from default location to next to last column. That way I hear "0" before the date/time stamp.

Blake

Unfortunately, as I thought about it, I realized the support screen layout option in NVDA wouldn’t work.  The screen layout probably is the same as a table, but without code that lets a screen-reader work with it.  So you must read by line and see everything on the line you move to.

 

Is there a possibility that NVDA could have a feature where you set a start point and an end point and only have what is between those points read as you move up and down by line? 

If so, I could set a start and end point so that each line I moved to would only have the third item from the left announced, for example.  And if something like a book appears on  screen in columns, I could set the start and end point to read one column.

This may not be possible in Windows.  This isn’t my idea, it was done decades ago in a DOS screen-reader, ASAP.  If it could be done in Windows screen-readers, it probably would have been but I don’t want to assume.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Luke Robinett

Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 8:26 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Navigation similar to the “vertical navigation” voiceover feature?

 

Hi Robert,
Thank you for the idea. I've tried that but it doesn't work, likely because the table isn't an actual HTML table and thus NVDA can't  traverse it as such. Thanks again.

Luke


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 2:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Navigation similar to the “vertical navigation” voiceover feature?

try pressing alt+ctrl+down arrow when in a table.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Luke Robinett" <lukelistservs@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 12:26 PM
Subject: [nvda] Navigation similar to the “vertical navigation” voiceover feature?


Hi folks,
imagine I’ve got a webpage open and there is information on it that is visually laid out like a table but is not traversable as a table using NVDA.
I am on a column heading and I want to move focus directly below it to the first cellof that column. In iOS, there’s a rotor option called “vertical navigation” that allows me to do this easily. Is there any such functionality in NVDA? Unfortunately, the only way I’v found  to get to that cell is to press control + down arrow repeatedly,traveling through all The other column headings first, making it sometimes impossible to know when I’ve actually arrived at the first item under that original column heading. I hope the description of the problem makes sense. Thank you for any tips or strategies.

Luke

--

Then you are very likely having precisely the same issue I sent this Admin
Notice for on October 2nd:

Update Checking Error for NVDA and Add - On Updater - Root Cause Identified,
Workaround Given, Problem solved in 2021.3 (
https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/message/88232?p=%2C%2C%2C20%2C0%2C0%2C0%3A%3Arecentpostdate%2Fsticky%2C%2Cadd-on+updater%2C20%2C2%2C0%2C86028599
)

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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043

*The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.*

~ John F. Kennedy

This looks like an NVDA addon.  Is it also a command line OCR app? I don't find that.

Howard

On 10/14/2021 6:23 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:

It was just a question of reading some more lines...

Quoting myself:

For free software, NAPS2, with a user interface or command line, and also packaged in an add-on by me, at:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ez2r125eilvhzi9/NAPS2TesseractOCR_1.0_Gen.nvda-addon?dl=1


Rui Fontes


Às 23:03 de 14/10/2021, mike mcglashon escreveu:

Quoting:

The add-on makes the two things...

End quote

To which add-on do you refer?

And,

Where can we get it?

Please advise as you like.

Mike M.

Mike mcglashon

Email: Michael.mcglashon@comcast.net <mailto:Michael.mcglashon@comcast.net>

Ph: 618 783 9331

*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Rui Fontes
*Sent:* Thursday, October 14, 2021 6:01 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] NVDA and OCR software

The add-on makes the two things...

NVDA+Control+R, in a selected file in File Explorer, makes OCR to the file.

NVDA+Control+shift+R scans a paper document from the scanner...

Rui Fontes

Às 22:51 de 14/10/2021, Dave Grossoehme escreveu:

    This is great if you need to scan a document into a PDF.
    However, is there any software or hardware/software that will
    take a PDF with a document that has beeen scanned into the PDF,
    and make that PDF of the scanned document be able to print.  I
    can use the windows OCR with NVDA to read the document, but can
    not print it.  Can you help me here?

    Dave

    On 10/11/2021 2:27 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:

        For a comercial product, FineReader 15...

        For free software, NAPS2, with a user interface or command
        line, and also packaged in an add-on by me, at:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ez2r125eilvhzi9/NAPS2TesseractOCR_1.0_Gen.nvda-addon?dl=1

        Best regards,

        Rui Fontes
        NVDA portuguese team

        Às 21:27 de 11/10/2021, cisco escreveu:

            Hello everyone,

            I do not know if this is a question better suited for the
            chat subgroup, if it is, please tell me.

            If it’s ok to post it here, however, here it goes: if you
            use any kind of OCR solution that can open and OCR PDFS
            and acquire images from scanners, what would you
            recommend for efficient use with NvDA?

            If that OCR had the ability to keep the formatting and
            layout of the document, that would be a much needed extra.

            Thanks for any answer.

            Best regards.

            Francisco.