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Re: NVDA says "link dot" even when Symbol Level is Set to "some"

Suhas D
 

On 10/22/2021 19:28, Chris via groups.io wrote:

Possibly because Theres a dot at the end of the link, but without any examples its difficult to give an explanation why it says dot in your case


Hi,

I'm talking about when the dot is out of the link. For instance:


Goodreads


On 10/22/2021 19:45, Gene wrote:
I’m not sure why this is happening.  This may solvve the problem.
You can try setting the level for the actual symbol to high.  That means it will only be spoken in high.  I’m not talking about setting the general level.  There is more than one case for determining when a period is spoken. 


Ok, thanks for the suggestion. I will give it a try.


On 10/22/2021 20:33, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

It might be the synth. I don’t have that issue, and I’m using code factory’s elocrash. What  are you using, espeak, one core, etc?


I'm using One Core.  It's the same with SAPI5.



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On 10/22/2021 20:33, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

It might be the synth. I don’t have that issue, and I’m using code factory’s elocrash. What  are you using, espeak, one core, etc?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Suhas Dharwad
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2021 6:37 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA says "link dot" even when Symbol Level is Set to "some"

 

Hi everyone,

 

I've been wondering why NVDA says "dot" after reading a link on a web page or any where else, even when the say symbol is set to "some".

Are there any uses for this happening? Because I don't see any uses for this. Is  there a way to modify this behavior?

I tried using speech dictionary  to modify it, but without any success.

 

Thanks

 

Suhas
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Re: NVDA says "link dot" even when Symbol Level is Set to "some"

Sarah k Alawami
 

It might be the synth. I don’t have that issue, and I’m using code factory’s elocrash. What  are you using, espeak, one core, etc?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Suhas Dharwad
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2021 6:37 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA says "link dot" even when Symbol Level is Set to "some"

 

Hi everyone,

 

I've been wondering why NVDA says "dot" after reading a link on a web page or any where else, even when the say symbol is set to "some".

Are there any uses for this happening? Because I don't see any uses for this. Is  there a way to modify this behavior?

I tried using speech dictionary  to modify it, but without any success.

 

Thanks

 

Suhas
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Re: NVDA says "link dot" even when Symbol Level is Set to "some"

Gene
 

I’m not sure why this is happening.  This may solvve the problem.
You can try setting the level for the actual symbol to high.  That means it will only be spoken in high.  I’m not talking about setting the general level.  There is more than one case for determining when a period is spoken.  Open Preferences..
In that menu,find and open punctuation/symbol pronunciation.  Up arrow to it, its faster.
type the period symbol.  Tab twice and set the level to all if it isn’t already.  You will hear the level setting without tabbing.
In the list, type the period symbol again.  There is a dot dot dot symbol.  Don’t change that unless you want the three dot symbol pronounced at a different level. 
Type the period symbol again. 
If this period setting is not for all, set it to all as I described above.
 
When you are finished, tab to and activate the ok button.
Gene
 

Sent: Friday, October 22, 2021 8:58 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA says "link dot" even when Symbol Level is Set to "some"
 

Possibly because Theres a dot at the end of the link, but without any examples its difficult to give an explanation why it says dot in your case

 

 

 

 

From: Suhas Dharwad
Sent: 22 October 2021 14:37
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA says "link dot" even when Symbol Level is Set to "some"

 

Hi everyone,

 

I've been wondering why NVDA says "dot" after reading a link on a web page or any where else, even when the say symbol is set to "some".

Are there any uses for this happening? Because I don't see any uses for this. Is  there a way to modify this behavior?

I tried using speech dictionary  to modify it, but without any success.

 

Thanks

 

Suhas
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Re: Downloading the emoticons for NVDA

Gene
 

I don’t know why you are having a problem.  Have you tried more than one browser?  The link works here.  Try right arrowing so you aren’t on the first letter of the link in your current browser and press enter.  See if that solves the problem.  If not, try another browser.
 
I haven’t looked in any detail at the description of this add-on but NVDA already has the ability to announce emoticons.  You can also place any emoticon in the NVDA list in a document in the following manner:
New main steps start on new lines.
Open the NVDA menu with NVDA key n. 
Press enter on  ppreferences.
Up arrow to punctuation/symbol pronunciation.  Press enter.
You are in a dialog.
There are an enornous amount of emoticons and some other symbols.
Shift tab to filter buy and type something.  If you want to see all emoticons with smile, type smile.  Type any word or group of words, for example, smiling face. 
Tab once.  You are now in a list of emoticons containing what you  type.
Find the one you want. 
Press NVDA key f9 once. 
Press NVDA key f10 twice quickly.
The emoticon is now on the clipboard.
Paste it into the document you are writing.
 
The add-on may do other things you want but my description may allow you to do what you want without it.
 
Gene

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Sent: Friday, October 22, 2021 4:54 AM
Subject: [nvda] Downloading the emoticons for NVDA
 
When I hit either Enter or Spacebar on "Download stable version,"
nothing at all happens. Is this down or out of date? it's from the
site whose link is:
https://jeff.tdrealms.com/NVDA.md

Thanks

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Re: NVDA says "link dot" even when Symbol Level is Set to "some"

Chris
 

Possibly because Theres a dot at the end of the link, but without any examples its difficult to give an explanation why it says dot in your case

 

 

 

 

From: Suhas Dharwad
Sent: 22 October 2021 14:37
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA says "link dot" even when Symbol Level is Set to "some"

 

Hi everyone,

 

I've been wondering why NVDA says "dot" after reading a link on a web page or any where else, even when the say symbol is set to "some".

Are there any uses for this happening? Because I don't see any uses for this. Is  there a way to modify this behavior?

I tried using speech dictionary  to modify it, but without any success.

 

Thanks

 

Suhas
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NVDA says "link dot" even when Symbol Level is Set to "some"

Suhas D
 

Hi everyone,


I've been wondering why NVDA says "dot" after reading a link on a web page or any where else, even when the say symbol is set to "some".

Are there any uses for this happening? Because I don't see any uses for this. Is  there a way to modify this behavior?

I tried using speech dictionary  to modify it, but without any success.


Thanks


Suhas
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Sent from Thunderbird

“Sometimes you just jump and hope it's not a cliff.”
Casey McQuiston, Red, White & Royal Blue


Re: Downloading the emoticons for NVDA

Suhas D
 

Hi, I don't know what's the problem with the download link. But, here's the official add-on page

https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/emoticons.en.html

and here's the direct download link for the add-on

https://addons.nvda-project.org/files/get.php?file=emo





Suhas
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On 10/22/2021 15:24, Nancy Shackelford wrote:
When I hit either Enter or Spacebar on "Download stable version,"
nothing at all happens. Is this down or out of date? it's from the
site whose link is:
https://jeff.tdrealms.com/NVDA.md

Thanks


Re: Too much information.

Bill Chilcott
 

Hi Jacob. You have now solved my problem for me. I think a Windows update may have changed my settings. Thank-you so much for your help.
Bill.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
Sent: 21 October 2021 01:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Too much information.

Bill, set punctuation announcement levels?


YOu can cycle through levels using NVDA+P?


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On 2021-10-21 01:27 PM, Bill Chilcott via groups.io wrote:
Can anyone tell me how to stop NVDA announcing punctuation when reading a
word document?
Many thanks
Bill.






Downloading the emoticons for NVDA

Nancy Shackelford
 

When I hit either Enter or Spacebar on "Download stable version,"
nothing at all happens. Is this down or out of date? it's from the
site whose link is:
https://jeff.tdrealms.com/NVDA.md

Thanks

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Re: Looking for a certified NVDA trainer in Canada

Quentin Christensen
 

Have you talked to the company (or developers) about the accessibility of the package?  As others have asked, do you know if it uses Jaws scripts to enable it to work with Jaws?

If regular navigation isn't getting you around the software, are you familiar with the review cursor and object navigation?  They are NVDA concepts for moving around text and objects which is otherwise inaccessible with normal navigation.  You can find them in the User Guide: https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/userGuide.html#NavigatingWithNVDA but if you are not already familiar with them, I'd strongly recommend the Basic Training for NVDA which goes into much more depth on them and has exercises and activities to practice your skills: https://www.nvaccess.org/product/basic-training-for-nvda-ebook/

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 5:58 AM Janet Brandly <jbrandly@...> wrote:

Hello,

 

I am looking for someone in Canada certified in NVDA training to work with me to see whether there is any way to use NVDA with the proprietary software used by the company I contract for. The program is supposedly only compatible with JAWS which I am using now. I have tried NVDA with no success. NVDA is so much faster and more responsive. I would really like to be able to use it if possible. This would involve sharing my screen as the software is tied to my computer. If this is something that you may be able to help me with, please contact me directly at jbrandly@.... I will compensate you for your time.

 

Thank you,

 

Janet Brandly



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Re: Here we go again!

 

I just want to add to Quentin's observations that they do not apply exclusively to NVDA.   The general purposes of alpha, beta, release candidate, and stable releases of software are the same no matter what the software or who makes it.  Some makers do not use (for the public, anyway) alpha or release candidate steps.  The "public testing" version is the beta, and there can be several betas as different kinks get worked out.

The idea that either alpha or beta software are "sneak peeks for the curious" with no obligation on the part of those who elect to use them to report issues needs to die a very quick death.  Alphas are generally for the development community, almost exclusively, with betas being for the end user community that's willing to put up with instability and bugs, and report those, as part of getting an advance look at what's happening next.
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Re: Here we go again!

Quentin Christensen
 

We encourage most users to use release candidate builds - unless people point out issues, then basically the release candidate will be identical to the final stable build - it is easier, for various reasons, for us to try to fix something in a release candidate build, than two weeks later in the final stable build.  Beta versions we are happy for people to test if they are confident they can get back to their stable version.  Alpha versions are really not designed for most users to use.  As noted in the thread here, things can break (deliberately or inadvertently) and we don't guarantee stability in alpha builds - though of course we DO want to know about any issues you encounter with those builds :)

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 5:27 AM Louise Pfau <louise.pfau@...> wrote:
Hi.  The existence of issues with Alpha and Beta builds is precisely why I now wait for stable versions of software.  I have used beta versions and release candidates of NVDA in the past, but I don't want to do that anymore because of the issues.

Louise



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locked Re: Optacon

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Hello,

I advise any future discussion about this topic to take place on the chat list. THis is off-topic for this group and will be locked.


Re: Does the latest release play nicely with Firefox? And the addon stuff isn't yet relevant if I update now, correct?

Jackie
 

The problem had nothing to do w/NVDA. It was a problem caused by a
change made to Firefox, & it's all been fixed now.

On 10/21/21, matthew dyer <ilovecountrymusic483@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,


I am using firefox with NVDA 2021.2 and not having any problems with
firefox here.


Matthew



On 10/21/2021 6:09 AM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote:
I am still on Version 2020.3, and didn't update earlier this year
because I saw some messages about NVDA and Firefox not playing nicely,
and Firefox being my main browser, I was hesitant to update. Now that
I'm hearing about possible addon incompatibility, I'm realising I'd
better update before I have to go with a new release that breaks
anything, even if I don't have the addons that are being singled out.
I just wanna be sure things aren't liable to flip out if I update now.









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Re: Looking for a certified NVDA trainer in Canada

Richard Kuzma
 

Just a thought and my two cents

Try windows narrator to see what results you get

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jujube
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2021 4:28 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Looking for a certified NVDA trainer in Canada

 

Hi Janet, I'm by no means a certified NVDA trainer or anything of that sort, but I think it'd be useful to know just a bit more information. Maybe this is something NV Access (aka Quentin) may need to assist with? I don't know.

 

First of all, just out of curiosity you're just using a demo version of JAWS to try it out, right? Second, are any JAWS scripts being used to interact with the program? Third, so am I correct in saying that the program works well with JAWS but NVDA cannot read or find the dialogues, buttons, controls, etc? I believe many programs these days have native keyboard commands or at least the controls are usually visible no matter what screen reader is in use. Also, it may be worth speaking to the developers of the program so it can be easily used with any screen reader.

 

On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 11:58 AM Janet Brandly <jbrandly@...> wrote:

Hello,

 

I am looking for someone in Canada certified in NVDA training to work with me to see whether there is any way to use NVDA with the proprietary software used by the company I contract for. The program is supposedly only compatible with JAWS which I am using now. I have tried NVDA with no success. NVDA is so much faster and more responsive. I would really like to be able to use it if possible. This would involve sharing my screen as the software is tied to my computer. If this is something that you may be able to help me with, please contact me directly at jbrandly@.... I will compensate you for your time.

 

Thank you,

 

Janet Brandly


Re: Looking for a certified NVDA trainer in Canada

Jujube
 

Hi Janet, I'm by no means a certified NVDA trainer or anything of that sort, but I think it'd be useful to know just a bit more information. Maybe this is something NV Access (aka Quentin) may need to assist with? I don't know.

First of all, just out of curiosity you're just using a demo version of JAWS to try it out, right? Second, are any JAWS scripts being used to interact with the program? Third, so am I correct in saying that the program works well with JAWS but NVDA cannot read or find the dialogues, buttons, controls, etc? I believe many programs these days have native keyboard commands or at least the controls are usually visible no matter what screen reader is in use. Also, it may be worth speaking to the developers of the program so it can be easily used with any screen reader.

On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 11:58 AM Janet Brandly <jbrandly@...> wrote:

Hello,

 

I am looking for someone in Canada certified in NVDA training to work with me to see whether there is any way to use NVDA with the proprietary software used by the company I contract for. The program is supposedly only compatible with JAWS which I am using now. I have tried NVDA with no success. NVDA is so much faster and more responsive. I would really like to be able to use it if possible. This would involve sharing my screen as the software is tied to my computer. If this is something that you may be able to help me with, please contact me directly at jbrandly@.... I will compensate you for your time.

 

Thank you,

 

Janet Brandly


Re: Does the latest release play nicely with Firefox? And the addon stuff isn't yet relevant if I update now, correct?

matthew dyer
 

Hi,


I am using firefox with NVDA 2021.2 and not having any problems with firefox here.


Matthew

On 10/21/2021 6:09 AM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote:
I am still on Version 2020.3, and didn't update earlier this year because I saw some messages about NVDA and Firefox not playing nicely, and Firefox being my main browser, I was hesitant to update. Now that I'm hearing about possible addon incompatibility, I'm realising I'd better update before I have to go with a new release that breaks anything, even if I don't have the addons that are being singled out. I just wanna be sure things aren't liable to flip out if I update now.





Re: Weather plus is unable to download and install

Jarek.Krcmar
 

Hi,


I confirmed the button Yes, but the downloading was cancelled.

Thank you for the direct link to download.

Jarek

Dne 21.10.2021 v 12:59 Adriano Barbieri via groups.io napsal(a):


Hi,

Probablyby mistake you have canceled the download, The link works properly, the add-on downloads the update quietly, try again, or try to download from the link I just posted for manual update.

Regards
Adriano


Il 21/10/2021 12:34, Jarek.Krcmar ha scritto:
Hello all in group,

when I started my computer, Nvda said: There is a new version of the Weather plus to download. But if I confirm the downloading, Nvda said the downloading was canselled.

I would like to know, how could I get this addon.

Do you have any idea, please?


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Looking for a certified NVDA trainer in Canada

Janet Brandly
 

Hello,

 

I am looking for someone in Canada certified in NVDA training to work with me to see whether there is any way to use NVDA with the proprietary software used by the company I contract for. The program is supposedly only compatible with JAWS which I am using now. I have tried NVDA with no success. NVDA is so much faster and more responsive. I would really like to be able to use it if possible. This would involve sharing my screen as the software is tied to my computer. If this is something that you may be able to help me with, please contact me directly at jbrandly@.... I will compensate you for your time.

 

Thank you,

 

Janet Brandly


Re: Here we go again!

Louise Pfau
 

Hi.  The existence of issues with Alpha and Beta builds is precisely why I now wait for stable versions of software.  I have used beta versions and release candidates of NVDA in the past, but I don't want to do that anymore because of the issues.

Louise

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