Hello,

 

Thank you for this message. I will definitely check out that link. Can you interact with these objects? This software is not standard when it comes to controls which is part of the reason it took me ages to learn it, LOL.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jujube
Sent: October 22, 2021 2:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Looking for a certified NVDA trainer in Canada

 

Hi Janet, I'm glad you've got something working for now. Based on your description I think it's unlikely JAWS scripts are being used. I am sure there's a way somewhere to check if JAWS scripts have been installed or not but I don't know where it is located in JAWS.

 

So as far as object navigation and NVDA is concerned, it's essentially the equivalent of the JAWS touch cursor or whatever Window eyes called it. The equivalent of the JAWS cursor is screen review/review cursor. I'm only familiar with laptop keyboard layout but I know many others can explain the desktop layout keystrokes.

 

So object nav is essentially moving between groups of object, so:

- to move to the next object, press NVDA shift right arrow

- to move to the previous object, press NVDA shift left arrow

- to move between groups of objects, press NVDA+shift+up/down arrow.

 

NVDA is in object review move by default. To cycle between review modes, press control+page up/page down.

There's also an exercise in this in process post that I suggest trying to help get a better understanding of object navigation. https://www.nvaccess.org/post/in-process-20th-november-2020/

 It's under the heading "using object navigation in Windows 10 settings).

 

Object nav does take some getting used to if you used a different screen reader in the past, but once you grasp it, you can access a lot more information. Hope this helps.

 

On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 12:40 PM Janet Brandly <jbrandly@...> wrote:

Hello Quentin and all,

 

Yes, I have contacted the software developer about its inaccessibility. The sense I get is that since it is, at least to them, compatible with JAWS, that is sufficient. In fact, the software is only partially accessible with JAWS.

 

Fortunately, I was able to obtain an annual license for JAWS. The amount of income I will get from this job will never be enough to live on. As for whether or not JAWS is using scripts, I have no idea. I am only learning as much of it as I need to in order to do the work. It seems to be a huge and extremely complicated piece of software, 95% of which I will never use. If it weren’t for the license there is no way I could ever afford it.

 

Quinten, thank you for those links. I am not familiar with object navigation, etc. However, I would still like to find someone to take a look at this program to see whether or not it could be used with NVDA before diving into that information.

 

Thanks for all of your input. Any more comments or recommendations are greatly appreciated.

 

Janet

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: October 21, 2021 7:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Looking for a certified NVDA trainer in Canada

 

Have you talked to the company (or developers) about the accessibility of the package?  As others have asked, do you know if it uses Jaws scripts to enable it to work with Jaws?

 

If regular navigation isn't getting you around the software, are you familiar with the review cursor and object navigation?  They are NVDA concepts for moving around text and objects which is otherwise inaccessible with normal navigation.  You can find them in the User Guide: https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/userGuide.html#NavigatingWithNVDA but if you are not already familiar with them, I'd strongly recommend the Basic Training for NVDA which goes into much more depth on them and has exercises and activities to practice your skills: https://www.nvaccess.org/product/basic-training-for-nvda-ebook/

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 5:58 AM Janet Brandly <jbrandly@...> wrote:

Hello,

 

I am looking for someone in Canada certified in NVDA training to work with me to see whether there is any way to use NVDA with the proprietary software used by the company I contract for. The program is supposedly only compatible with JAWS which I am using now. I have tried NVDA with no success. NVDA is so much faster and more responsive. I would really like to be able to use it if possible. This would involve sharing my screen as the software is tied to my computer. If this is something that you may be able to help me with, please contact me directly at jbrandly@.... I will compensate you for your time.

 

Thank you,

 

Janet Brandly

 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

Web: www.nvaccess.org 

Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/

User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess

Hi, Yes you should be able to interact with those objects. Depending on the
situation sometimes just pressing enter will work. If not, you can try
NVDA+enter (laptop layout) or NVDAA+numpad enter (desktop layout). You may
also need to move the focus to the object. I kinda forget which is which
but it's either NVDA+backspace or NVDA+shift+backspace.

On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 2:31 PM Janet Brandly <jbrandly@shaw.ca> wrote:

Hello,



Thank you for this message. I will definitely check out that link. Can
you
interact with these objects? This software is not standard when it comes
to
controls which is part of the reason it took me ages to learn it, LOL.



*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Jujube
*Sent:* October 22, 2021 2:48 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Looking for a certified NVDA trainer in Canada



Hi Janet, I'm glad you've got something working for now. Based on your
description I think it's unlikely JAWS scripts are being used. I am sure
there's a way somewhere to check if JAWS scripts have been installed or
not
but I don't know where it is located in JAWS.



So as far as object navigation and NVDA is concerned, it's essentially
the
equivalent of the JAWS touch cursor or whatever Window eyes called it.
The
equivalent of the JAWS cursor is screen review/review cursor. I'm only
familiar with laptop keyboard layout but I know many others can explain
the
desktop layout keystrokes.



So object nav is essentially moving between groups of object, so:

- to move to the next object, press NVDA shift right arrow

- to move to the previous object, press NVDA shift left arrow

- to move between groups of objects, press NVDA+shift+up/down arrow.



NVDA is in object review move by default. To cycle between review modes,
press control+page up/page down.

There's also an exercise in this in process post that I suggest trying to
help get a better understanding of object navigation.
https://www.nvaccess.org/post/in-process-20th-november-2020/

It's under the heading "using object navigation in Windows 10 settings).



Object nav does take some getting used to if you used a different screen
reader in the past, but once you grasp it, you can access a lot more
information. Hope this helps.



On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 12:40 PM Janet Brandly <jbrandly@shaw.ca> wrote:

Hello Quentin and all,



Yes, I have contacted the software developer about its inaccessibility.
The sense I get is that since it is, at least to them, compatible with
JAWS, that is sufficient. In fact, the software is only partially
accessible with JAWS.



Fortunately, I was able to obtain an annual license for JAWS. The amount
of income I will get from this job will never be enough to live on. As
for
whether or not JAWS is using scripts, I have no idea. I am only learning
as
much of it as I need to in order to do the work. It seems to be a huge
and
extremely complicated piece of software, 95% of which I will never use.
If
it weren’t for the license there is no way I could ever afford it.



Quinten, thank you for those links. I am not familiar with object
navigation, etc. However, I would still like to find someone to take a
look
at this program to see whether or not it could be used with NVDA before
diving into that information.



Thanks for all of your input. Any more comments or recommendations are
greatly appreciated.



Janet



*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Quentin
Christensen
*Sent:* October 21, 2021 7:02 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Looking for a certified NVDA trainer in Canada



Have you talked to the company (or developers) about the accessibility of
the package? As others have asked, do you know if it uses Jaws scripts
to
enable it to work with Jaws?



If regular navigation isn't getting you around the software, are you
familiar with the review cursor and object navigation? They are NVDA
concepts for moving around text and objects which is otherwise
inaccessible with normal navigation. You can find them in the User
Guide:
https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/userGuide.html#NavigatingWithNVDA
but if you are not already familiar with them, I'd strongly recommend the
Basic Training for NVDA which goes into much more depth on them and has
exercises and activities to practice your skills:
https://www.nvaccess.org/product/basic-training-for-nvda-ebook/



Kind regards



Quentin.



On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 5:58 AM Janet Brandly <jbrandly@shaw.ca> wrote:

Hello,



I am looking for someone in Canada certified in NVDA training to work
with
me to see whether there is any way to use NVDA with the proprietary
software used by the company I contract for. The program is supposedly
only
compatible with JAWS which I am using now. I have tried NVDA with no
success. NVDA is so much faster and more responsive. I would really like
to
be able to use it if possible. This would involve sharing my screen as
the
software is tied to my computer. If this is something that you may be
able
to help me with, please contact me directly at jbrandly@shaw.ca. I will
compensate you for your time.



Thank you,



Janet Brandly




--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager



Web: www.nvaccess.org

Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/

User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess <https://twitter.com/NVAccess>

Hi Janet, I'm glad you've got something working for now. Based on your
description I think it's unlikely JAWS scripts are being used. I am sure
there's a way somewhere to check if JAWS scripts have been installed or not
but I don't know where it is located in JAWS.

So as far as object navigation and NVDA is concerned, it's essentially the
equivalent of the JAWS touch cursor or whatever Window eyes called it. The
equivalent of the JAWS cursor is screen review/review cursor. I'm only
familiar with laptop keyboard layout but I know many others can explain the
desktop layout keystrokes.

So object nav is essentially moving between groups of object, so:
- to move to the next object, press NVDA shift right arrow
- to move to the previous object, press NVDA shift left arrow
- to move between groups of objects, press NVDA+shift+up/down arrow.

NVDA is in object review move by default. To cycle between review modes,
press control+page up/page down.
There's also an exercise in this in process post that I suggest trying to
help get a better understanding of object navigation.
https://www.nvaccess.org/post/in-process-20th-november-2020/
It's under the heading "using object navigation in Windows 10 settings).

Object nav does take some getting used to if you used a different screen
reader in the past, but once you grasp it, you can access a lot more
information. Hope this helps.

On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 12:40 PM Janet Brandly <jbrandly@shaw.ca> wrote:

Hello Quentin and all,



Yes, I have contacted the software developer about its inaccessibility.
The sense I get is that since it is, at least to them, compatible with
JAWS, that is sufficient. In fact, the software is only partially
accessible with JAWS.



Fortunately, I was able to obtain an annual license for JAWS. The amount
of income I will get from this job will never be enough to live on. As
for
whether or not JAWS is using scripts, I have no idea. I am only learning
as
much of it as I need to in order to do the work. It seems to be a huge
and
extremely complicated piece of software, 95% of which I will never use.
If
it weren’t for the license there is no way I could ever afford it.



Quinten, thank you for those links. I am not familiar with object
navigation, etc. However, I would still like to find someone to take a
look
at this program to see whether or not it could be used with NVDA before
diving into that information.



Thanks for all of your input. Any more comments or recommendations are
greatly appreciated.



Janet



*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Quentin
Christensen
*Sent:* October 21, 2021 7:02 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Looking for a certified NVDA trainer in Canada



Have you talked to the company (or developers) about the accessibility of
the package? As others have asked, do you know if it uses Jaws scripts
to
enable it to work with Jaws?



If regular navigation isn't getting you around the software, are you
familiar with the review cursor and object navigation? They are NVDA
concepts for moving around text and objects which is otherwise
inaccessible with normal navigation. You can find them in the User
Guide:
https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/userGuide.html#NavigatingWithNVDA
but if you are not already familiar with them, I'd strongly recommend the
Basic Training for NVDA which goes into much more depth on them and has
exercises and activities to practice your skills:
https://www.nvaccess.org/product/basic-training-for-nvda-ebook/



Kind regards



Quentin.



On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 5:58 AM Janet Brandly <jbrandly@shaw.ca> wrote:

Hello,



I am looking for someone in Canada certified in NVDA training to work
with
me to see whether there is any way to use NVDA with the proprietary
software used by the company I contract for. The program is supposedly
only
compatible with JAWS which I am using now. I have tried NVDA with no
success. NVDA is so much faster and more responsive. I would really like
to
be able to use it if possible. This would involve sharing my screen as
the
software is tied to my computer. If this is something that you may be
able
to help me with, please contact me directly at jbrandly@shaw.ca. I will
compensate you for your time.



Thank you,



Janet Brandly




--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager



Web: www.nvaccess.org

Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/

User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess <https://twitter.com/NVAccess>

On Oct 22, 2021, at 10:41 AM, Bhavya shah <bhavya.shah125@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear all,

I am currently using NVDA 2021.2 with the Bluetooth Audio add-on
installed and enabled on a Windows 10 machine. With it, I am using a
pair of Bluetooth headphones with my laptop, both of which are
Bluetooth 5.0 compatible. Still, from time to time, especially when I
am reading short stringgs like an alphabet or a monosyllable, the
initial bit of the speech is cut off. Are there any ways to minimize
the cutoff or fix it entirely? Please let me know.

Best Regards,
Bhavya Shah
Stanford University | Class of 2024
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhavyashah125/

I have the AdOn, and I have the same problem anyway. I tend to play something low in Winamp to fix it, but I don’t use my Bluetooth headset much except for listening to Youtube and podcasts  while I’m doing dishes so I haven’t worried about it much. Guess I’ll try silenzio.

Shawn Klein

Sent from Mail for Windows

If memory serves the American Printing House for the Blind once produced a device which allowed users to access BIOS settings during the boot sequence. I believe it was a hardware device and it was made for DOS-based PCs. It was pronounced Speakualizer although I don’t know the spelling. Needless to say the device is no longer available and it wouldn’t work even if you could find one on Ebay. Still it would be very nifty if we could have something like it for today’s computers assuming the technology on today’s machines would even allow for interfacing with such a device.

 

David Goldfield,

Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

JAWS Certified, 2019

Subscribe to the Tech-VI announcement list to receive emails regarding news and events in the blindness assistive technology field.

Email: tech-vi+subscribe@groups.io

 

www.DavidGoldfield.org

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 7:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] what next

 

On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 07:32 PM, Arlene wrote:

I hope in the future blind users can go in there with Nairator.

-
Not likely.

What folks who use screen readers, as they currently exist, need to understand is that they are application software.  Mind you, a very specialized application, but still an application.  The operating system (whether Windows or any other one) must be up and running at least to a certain point before any screen reader can come online.

UEFI/BIOS occur in the boot sequence well prior to Windows (or other OSes such as Linux) ever being kicked off for loading.  While it would be conceivably possible to have a dedicated screen reader for that environment, and if memory serves a prototype was once made, long ago, it certainly would not be Narrator, NVDA, JAWS or any other screen reader as end users know them.  And it would also very likely have commands strictly limited to the environment at hand, which means it would be very different in that way, too.

And, as you mention, even if you were to have a screen reader of some sort available to navigate UEFI/BIOS, you still have to be very, very certain that what you're doing is precisely what you intend to do and that what you intend is actually what needs to be done to achieve the result hoped for.   If you can have this certainty, then go for it, otherwise, get assistance.  And this is completely separate from your visual status.  Most of my sighted clients have no idea that UEFI/BIOS even exists nor how to interact with it.  It's just not something most end users ever need to touch.

As far as turning off "media keys" or whatever a maker might call the actions associated with the function keys, lobbying them to create utilities such as the one Lenovo already has that allow these to be turned on or off from within Windows, or asking for some keyboard shortcut, likely a 4-key press to avoid accidents, to do this are both better ideas than a screen reader for UEFI/BIOS likely would be.  They're safer, too.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.

         ~ John F. Kennedy

 

--

You say which needs to be esigned.  Does that mean scanned?  If you are printing it as an alternative, try opening the document and printing it in a browser such as Chrome, Edhge, Brave or Firefox.  I don’t know what is causing the problem but that may allow you to print it.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: Dave Grossoehme

Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 5:38 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and OCR software

 

Good Afternoon:  I can open other PDF files with Adobe with no problem.  It's just this file, which needs to be esigned, that is causing a problem.  That's what seemed to be questionable.

Dave

 

On 10/18/2021 3:33 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 04:48 PM, Dave Grossoehme wrote:

When I open the pdf, I was told that it didn't load completely.  So, I tried again.  Then I tried printing it and all I received was blank pages, checked by a sighted person.  . . . Yet I sent this email with attachment to my sighted son, who isn't running any screen reading equipment and he could open it with no problems.

Dave

-
Then we are back to there is something wrong that is virtually certain to be limited to your computer, and I'd say most likely with your PDF reading software.

So, just as there is the consistent advice to "try another browser," when there are issues with a webpage, the same applies to PDF readers:  try another alternative.  Under Windows 10 the Edge browser itself does a bang-up job of opening PDFs, so I'd try opening that same document in Edge rather than Adobe Reader DC to see if the result is different.  If it is, then uninstall and reinstall Adobe Reader DC.  If it's not, then start doing the repair steps for Windows.

The punctuation is already set to "some".
I should have added "punctuation Level" instead of "Symbol Level" in the subject.  It got confusing I guess.
I apologize for the mistake.
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On 10/22/2021 22:00, Chris via groups.io wrote:

If you are using the say all command or reading line by line , then maybe your punctuation level needs lowering, try setting it to some and see what happens then

*From: *Suhas Dharwad <mailto:ignisdraco7@outlook.com>
*Sent: *22 October 2021 16:35
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] NVDA says "link dot" even when Symbol Level is Set to "some"

On 10/22/2021 19:28, Chris via groups.io wrote:

Possibly because Theres a dot at the end of the link, but without
any examples its difficult to give an explanation why it says dot
in your case

Hi,

I'm talking about when the dot is out of the link. For instance:

Goodreads <https://goodreads.com>.

On 10/22/2021 19:45, Gene wrote:

I’m not sure why this is happening.  This may solvve the problem.

You can try setting the level for the actual symbol to high.  That
means it will only be spoken in high.  I’m not talking about
setting the general level.  There is more than one case for
determining when a period is spoken.

Ok, thanks for the suggestion. I will give it a try.

On 10/22/2021 20:33, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

It might be the synth. I don’t have that issue, and I’m using code
factory’s elocrash. What are you using, espeak, one core, etc?

I'm using One Core.  It's the same with SAPI5.

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On 10/22/2021 20:33, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

It might be the synth. I don’t have that issue, and I’m using code
factory’s elocrash. What are you using, espeak, one core, etc?

*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Suhas Dharwad
*Sent:* Friday, October 22, 2021 6:37 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* [nvda] NVDA says "link dot" even when Symbol Level is
Set to "some"

Hi everyone,

I've been wondering why NVDA says "dot" after reading a link on a
web page or any where else, even when the say symbol is set to "some".

Are there any uses for this happening? Because I don't see any
uses for this. Is  there a way to modify this behavior?

I tried using speech dictionary  to modify it, but without any
success.

Thanks

Suhas
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Thanks Quentin for the reminder. I'll admit I'm very new to github, so I
definitely have not checked closely. I'll check again.

On Tue, Sep 28, 2021 at 1:58 AM Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org>
wrote:

Have you checked whether these are all reported on
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues

Using UIA will become the default in time, so it's important that those
testing things like this, ensure they are reported.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Sep 28, 2021 at 4:20 PM Jujube <ellaxyu@gmail.com> wrote:

I have a feeling that UIA support is still kind of janky at best and is
still under development, and yes, typing is much snappier in word with
UIA
turned on, and this computer has rather limited system resources btw. I
know this isn't quite on topic, but I'll also mention a few things I
noticed in Excel with UIA support turned on, and btw I have both office
16/365 (or something like that) which I got from my college for viewing
narrated powerpoints and office 2007 (I know, I know, it's so old but
that's what my family has). I found the following, particularly with the
newer office version (and sorry I know this is Excel):
- Pressing NVDA+Space does not switch between browse an focus modes.
- Pressing NVDA control C and NVDA control R does not allow you to set
automatic row and column header reading.
- Commands to select an entire row (shift + down arrow) and commands to
select an entire column (control shift down arrow) don't work as
intended.
Instead, I get something like (selected 1 through 1) which isn't right.
And yes, none of these are a problem with UIA turned off.

And a few issues with excel and braille displays (and yes speech is
perfectly fine here):
- When I enter browse mode and navigate between cells, nothing on the
braille display changes but I hear all the contents read out to me in
speech. This is not at all an issue in focus mode (and yes I did report
this on NVDA issue tracker under the name mrsviolafangirl).
- When using the newer version of Excel (and yes this happens no matter
if UIA is enabled or not), when I type into a cell with a braille
display
connected, the contents of what I'm entering is not showing up on the
braille display (but it is spoken just fine in speech) and I have to
press
escape or enter to read what I typed on the braille display. This is a
non
issue in my old MS Excel 2007.
And yes, I'm well aware that the number of people who use braille
displays is quite limited so I totally understand if braille display
issues
are hard to reproduce.

Okay sorry for commenting on excel issues on this thread, but if there's
some little quirks using NVDA with MS office that can use some fixes,
it's
worth mentioning lol.

--
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Training and Support Manager

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Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/
User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda
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