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Re: NVDA and Email Images
Shawn
Sometimes NVDA’s OCR works on images, sometimes I have to go to the full size page on Facebook, sometimes Facebook’s own OCR puts the text on there, but sometimes neither of those works and I have to turn my monitor on and use Seeing AI on my Iphone to read it. When all else fails, that one works. Shawn Klein
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From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 6:59 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Email Images
I wasn't suggesting using NVDA+r to read captchas, indeed my other comment was that we CAN'T build a feature which will reliably do that - for the very reason that if we could, so could the people (or bots) the captchas are designed to stop in the first place. My suggestion for NVDA+r was in the case of someone's contact details being provided in an image - at least that was my understanding but maybe the question was simply how to get past the captcha to get to the contact details, in which case no, NVDA+r won't work there.
Quentin.
On Thu, Oct 28, 2021 at 1:03 AM Jackie <abletec@...> wrote:
-- Quentin Christensen
Web: www.nvaccess.org Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/ User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
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Re: NVDA 2021.3 Beta 1 now available
On Thu, Oct 28, 2021 at 11:42 AM, abdul muhamin wrote:
Hello, the NVDA is lagging in win11 file explorer, please fix- Not that this isn't appropriate and useful to post here for others who may confirm the issue, but as the download page for the beta clearly states:
It is not realistic to believe that the NVDA developers are reading this group on any sort of a regular basis. Quentin Christensen does, and I'm sure he passes this sort of thing along when he sees it, but you cannot rely on that either. If you use the beta and release candidate builds, please, create a GitHub account and use it to report issues. That is the one, and only, way you can be assured that they will become a part of the official chain of review. And for a basic issue like this, filling out the issue form isn't really difficult. And if you prefer to use an MS-Word form to make it even easier, I've created those, along with a tutorials on same. Creating an Issue in GitHub for NVDA MS-Word Fillable Form for an NVDA Bug Report Including Pre and Post Filling-Out Instructions MS-Word Fillable Form for an NVDA Bug Report Including Only Post Filling-Out Instructions How to Unprotect a Completed Fillable Word Form so the Entire Document Can Be Copied-- Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043 The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all. ~ John F. Kennedy
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Re: NVDA 2021.3 Beta 1 now available
Hi, Regarding Windows 11 File explorer issue: is this also happening with 2021.2? If so, it is something Microsoft may need to backport to Windows 11 build 22000 sooner than later. Cheers, Joseph
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Re: NVDA 2021.3 Beta 1 now available
abdul muhamin
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From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2021 3:19 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2021.3 Beta 1 now available
Hi everyone,
Beta1 of NVDA 2021.3 is now available for download and testing. For anyone who is interested in trying out what the next version of NVDA has to offer before it is officially released, we welcome you to download the beta and provide feedback.
Download from: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2021-3beta1/
-- Quentin Christensen
Web: www.nvaccess.org Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/ User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
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Re: NVDA 2021.3 Beta 1 now available
Steve Nutt
I’ll check that out if it’s true.
Usually it is not a nice experience reading Emails with NVDA, because of table layout things, but the new UIA thing to remove some of these tables may help.
All the best
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of gbmagoo@...
Sent: 28 October 2021 16:36 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2021.3 Beta 1 now available
The latest beta… I hope you’re not the email in outlook and I was surprised to read the whole thing to me without me doing anything just like the other screen reader mentioned in this email.
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Re: NVDA 2021.3 Beta 1 now available
gbmagoo@...
The latest beta… I hope you’re not the email in outlook and I was surprised to read the whole thing to me without me doing anything just like the other screen reader mentioned in this email.
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On Oct 28, 2021, at 08:29, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:
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Re: NVDA 2021.3 Beta 1 now available
Rosemarie Chavarria
Hi, Quentin,
I just downloaded the new beta version of NVDA and so-far it’s working great for me. Thank you for all you do for us.
Rosemarie
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From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2021 3:19 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2021.3 Beta 1 now available
Hi everyone,
Beta1 of NVDA 2021.3 is now available for download and testing. For anyone who is interested in trying out what the next version of NVDA has to offer before it is officially released, we welcome you to download the beta and provide feedback.
Download from: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2021-3beta1/
-- Quentin Christensen
Web: www.nvaccess.org Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/ User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
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Re: NVDA 2021.3 Beta 1 now available
Steve Nutt
Hi,
It’s only a shame that NVDA doesn’t auto read messages when you go into an Outlook message. This would be a nice touch.
JAWS has a setting for this.
All the best
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: 28 October 2021 11:19 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2021.3 Beta 1 now available
Hi everyone,
Beta1 of NVDA 2021.3 is now available for download and testing. For anyone who is interested in trying out what the next version of NVDA has to offer before it is officially released, we welcome you to download the beta and provide feedback.
Download from: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2021-3beta1/
-- Quentin Christensen
Web: www.nvaccess.org Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/ User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
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NVDA 2021.3 Beta 1 now available
Quentin Christensen
Hi everyone, Beta1 of NVDA 2021.3 is now available for download and testing. For anyone who is interested in trying out what the next version of NVDA has to offer before it is officially released, we welcome you to download the beta and provide feedback. This release introduces support for the new HID Braille specification. This specification aims to standardize support for Braille Displays without needing individual drivers. There are updates to eSpeak-NG and LibLouis, including new Russian and Tshivenda tables. Error sounds can be enabled in stable builds of NVDA via a new advanced settings option. Say all in Word now scrolls the view to keep the current position visible. There are lots of improvements when using Office with UIA. One UIA fix is that Outlook now ignores more types of layout tables in messages. Download from: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2021-3beta1/ Quentin Christensen Training and Support Manager Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/ User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess
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Re: Verbosity Settings
Quentin Christensen
And one more - if you want to customise when individual symbols are pronounced, press NVDA+n, to open the NVDA menu, then p for preferences, then "Punctuation/Symbol pronunciation". There you can set the level any given symbol should be read at, and how it is pronounced". There's a bit more detail on using that in this recently blog post: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/in-process-30th-april-2021/#SymbolPronunciation Kind regards Quentin.
On Thu, Oct 28, 2021 at 4:31 AM Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
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Re: NVDA and Email Images
Quentin Christensen
I wasn't suggesting using NVDA+r to read captchas, indeed my other comment was that we CAN'T build a feature which will reliably do that - for the very reason that if we could, so could the people (or bots) the captchas are designed to stop in the first place. My suggestion for NVDA+r was in the case of someone's contact details being provided in an image - at least that was my understanding but maybe the question was simply how to get past the captcha to get to the contact details, in which case no, NVDA+r won't work there. Quentin.
On Thu, Oct 28, 2021 at 1:03 AM Jackie <abletec@...> wrote: The accuracy of this tool to decipher captchas is so questionable as --
Quentin Christensen Training and Support Manager Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/ User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess
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Re: Verbosity Settings
Gene
Its control NVDA g. You are using caps lock as an NVDA key but a lot
of people would use either insert.
Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel McGee
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2021 12:03 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Verbosity Settings In addition, if you want to explore settings and customize NVDA to your liking, the keystroke is, Control, Caps Lock plus G. Once the dialog box opens, shift tab and take a look at the categories, by up and down arrow keys and see what NVDA has to offer.
Happy customizing!
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nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Jujube
Hi Danny, if too many symbols are being spoken, just press NVDA+P to set your punctuation/symbol level to either some or none. Hope this helps.
On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 9:48 AM Danny Park <dpark13918@...> wrote:
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Re: nvdaCertPatch fails to work for me
Dejan Ristic
Hi Lukasz,
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I've tried opening www.nvaccess.org in Internet explorer, but to no avail. It says: This page can't be displayed. As for taking a look at the log, I have not done it, but due to the fact that I've just read Joseph's message directed to you and to all of us, I think that his explanation of the situation is much better than mine. Cheers, Dejan
On 27/10/2021 18:22, Lukasz Golonka via groups.io wrote:
On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 18:15:08 +0200 --
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Re: Verbosity Settings
Daniel McGee
In addition, if you want to explore settings and customize NVDA to your liking, the keystroke is, Control, Caps Lock plus G. Once the dialog box opens, shift tab and take a look at the categories, by up and down arrow keys and see what NVDA has to offer.
Happy customizing!
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jujube
Sent: 27 October 2021 17:55 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Verbosity Settings
Hi Danny, if too many symbols are being spoken, just press NVDA+P to set your punctuation/symbol level to either some or none. Hope this helps.
On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 9:48 AM Danny Park <dpark13918@...> wrote:
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Re: Verbosity Settings
Danny Park
Thanks for the help that is what I was looking for.
Danny
On 10/27/2021 11:55 AM, Jujube wrote:
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Re: Verbosity Settings
Jujube
Hi Danny, if too many symbols are being spoken, just press NVDA+P to set your punctuation/symbol level to either some or none. Hope this helps.
On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 9:48 AM Danny Park <dpark13918@...> wrote: Where can I go to change the verbosity settings to get rid of the
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Re: nvdaCertPatch fails to work for me
Hi, Or, for that matter, if folks can also access NV Access website via Chrome and/or Edge on a domain-joined Windows 7/8.1/10/11 system (mostly on Windows 7). Cheers, Joseph
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Verbosity Settings
Danny Park
Where can I go to change the verbosity settings to get rid of the symbols being spoken.
Danny
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Re: nvdaCertPatch fails to work for me
Lukasz Golonka
On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 09:33:09 -0700
"Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote: It was pointed out on NVDA add-ons list that this issue may affect domain-joined computers managed by IT admins. Specifically, despite request from NVDA (specifically, Python), Windows will not update certificate store.Interesting. It would be great to confirm if Internet Explorer can access NV Access's server or not. If it can then perhaps we should change the way in which updates are downloaded to use Win32 APi rather than Python's urlllib. -- Regards Lukasz
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Re: nvdaCertPatch fails to work for me
Hi, Right. Also, a bit on Firefox: the original poster used Firefox because Mozilla has its own root certificate whereas NV Access uses Letsencrypt. Cheers, Joseph
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