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Re: ssl error with nvda update and nvda remote add-on

 

On Sat, Oct 30, 2021 at 12:03 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:
Install the NVDA 2021.3 Beta version...
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Or that.   So far, it seems to be working well.  Download link on this page:  https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2021-3beta1/ 
 
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         ~ John F. Kennedy

 


Re: ssl error with nvda update and nvda remote add-on

Rui Fontes
 

Install the NVDA 2021.3 Beta version...


Rui Fontes


Às 16:49 de 30/10/2021, mslion escreveu:

Hello all,
Since a few days I am not able to check nvda updates add-on updates or
connect to my nvda remote instance. When looking in the logs it looks
like an ssl issue on the nv-access site. Anyone else familiar with
this? Is there a solution for this?

With kind regards,
Mitchel Snel




Re: ssl error with nvda update and nvda remote add-on

 

Can't speak to the NVDA Remote part, though it could be related.  As far as NVDA updates, see:  Update Checking Error for NVDA and Add-On Updater - Root Cause Identified, Workaround Given, Problem solved in 2021.3
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         ~ John F. Kennedy

 


ssl error with nvda update and nvda remote add-on

mslion
 

Hello all,
Since a few days I am not able to check nvda updates add-on updates or
connect to my nvda remote instance. When looking in the logs it looks
like an ssl issue on the nv-access site. Anyone else familiar with
this? Is there a solution for this?

With kind regards,
Mitchel Snel


locked Re: Making Portable NVDA

 

On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 02:42 PM, Howard Traxler wrote:
If you have other ideas, please suggest.
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Given the history of this machine, I would suggest:  Doing a Completely Clean (Re)install of Windows 10 Using Media Creation Tool to Create Bootable Win10 Install Media on a USB Thumb Drive

You will end up needing sighted assistance because this process involves some "pre-Windows being active" steps.   But it allows you to wipe the machine completely clean and start entirely afresh with the latest version of Windows.  You'll even have to set up your account on the machine again.
 
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The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.

         ~ John F. Kennedy

 


locked Re: Making Portable NVDA

Chris Mullins
 

Hi

Windows feature updates require manual invocation, they do not normally happen automatically and if the machine manages to get to the log-in screen, one of the shortcuts I mentioned previously should get Narrator speaking.

 

Cheers

Chris   

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Howard Traxler
Sent: 29 October 2021 20:33
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Making Portable NVDA

 

Yup, I know that windows will update itself as soon as I connect to the

internet; but the first thing is to get it up and talking.

 

 

On 10/29/2021 2:01 PM, Chris Mullins wrote:

>                 Hi

> If you haven’t used the computer in 6 years, Windows 10 will be

> totally out of date.  You can start Narrator with a shortcut key

> combination as soon as Windows is active.  The key combination is

> Control+Windows+Enter as of now but it may have been just

> Windows+Enter on the version you have.

> Cheers

> Chris

> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for

> Windows

> *From: *Howard Traxler <mailto:htraxler7@...>

> *Sent: *29 October 2021 19:42

> *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> *Subject: *Re: [nvda] Making Portable NVDA

> Thanks John.  That sure did work.  Tried it on my main machine and it

> works fine.

> Now the big problem is:

> I have another machine, a windows 10 computer that I bought about six

> years ago but never got it running; because I forgot the logon

> password.  I'm hoping that I can get it as far as asking for the

> password, then make it talk.  Gonna try this thumb drive or/and try

> narrator.

> If you have other ideas, please suggest.  I have found, downloaded, and

> set up a boot CD with a program that is supposed to let me take away the

> password.  But I need to make the machine talk or get a sighty to read

> the screen.  Well, maybe soon.

> Thanks again.

> Howard

> On 10/29/2021 12:57 PM, John Isige wrote:

> > You can't. Well, you can if you already have access to the machine and

> > install some third party software on it and make a script on your USB

> > drive, but that doesn't solve your problem. The easiest thing, I think,

> > would be to name your drive with a number, so in the volume label you'd

> > type something like 1nvda or whatever. Then to run it, you'd do the

> > following.

> >

> >

> > 1. insert drive into computer, wait for the noise that tells you it was

> > recognized.

> >

> >

> > 2. Hit windows-e to get into file explorer.

> >

> >

> > 3. Hit 1 to get to your drive.

> >

> >

> > 4. Hit enter to get into your drive.

> >

> >

> > At this point, you want to set up the contents of the drive so you have

> > a numbered file, like 1.bat. Have that file run NVDA. So when you're in

> > that drive, hit 1 and hit enter again, and you should have NVDA running.

> > So for example, suppose on your machine, the drive is e:. You make a

> > portable copy of NVDA at e:\nvda. Label e: as 1nvda or whatever, then go

> > into the drive. Make a file called 1.bat with text like so.

> >

> >

> > #echo off

> >

> > cd \nvda

> >

> > nvda

> >

> >

> > Then, slap the drive into a new machine, hit win-e, 1, enter, 1, enter.

> > NVDA should run.

> >

> >

> > On 10/29/2021 12:40 PM, Howard Traxler wrote:

> >> I have been successful at making a portable copy of NVDA on a USB

> >> thumb drive.  I can navigatte to it on my main computer, then shut

> >> down the running NVDA, just hit the enter key and the portable copy

> >> starts.  I'd like to plug this thumb drive into a machine that has no

> >> screen reader and have it start automatically.  Can someone tell me

> >> how to make this happen?

> >>

> >> Thank you.

> >>

> >> Howard

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

 

 

 

 

 

 


locked Re: Optacon?

 

Not on topic.  Do not bring this up again.

Topic locked.
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         ~ John F. Kennedy

 


locked Re: Optacon?

Chris Smart
 

Right. Here's a word for you to look up:
Hyperbole.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Howard Traxler
Sent: October 29, 2021 11:42 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Optacon?

Yes, if you listen to these folks about old technology, you must give up your Optacon, your AM radio, your perkins brailler, ... anything that has been superseded by modrern technology.

.

On 10/29/2021 8:18 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 09:12 PM, Chris Tromborg wrote:

What! Do you mean that I have to give up my Optacon?

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The questions are: Does it do what you need it to? Does it need any
special care and feeding up through exceptional measures to make it
keep doing so?

If the answers are "yes," and "no," respectively, then keep on keepin' on.

That's not what has been under discussion here. When references are
being made to issues with NVDA, and I'd have to presume that means the
current version, and things like Outlook 2003 and the Windows 7
calculator, we're out of compliance with one of the group rules about
discussion being limited to current versions of the operating systems
and software.

The topic has strayed, and not just because of you, I'm guilty too,
far away from the purpose of this group. This topic is now locked.
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*The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.*

~ John F. Kennedy


locked Optacon?

Howard Traxler
 

Yes, if you listen to these folks about old technology, you must give up your Optacon, your AM radio, your perkins brailler, ... anything that has been superseded by modrern technology.

.

On 10/29/2021 8:18 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 09:12 PM, Chris Tromborg wrote:

What!  Do you mean that I have to give up my Optacon?

-
The questions are:  Does it do what you need it to?  Does it need any special care and feeding up through exceptional measures to make it keep doing so?

If the answers are "yes," and "no," respectively, then keep on keepin' on.

That's not what has been under discussion here.  When references are being made to issues with NVDA, and I'd have to presume that means the current version, and things like Outlook 2003 and the Windows 7 calculator, we're out of compliance with one of the group rules about discussion being limited to current versions of the operating systems and software.

The topic has strayed, and not just because of you, I'm guilty too, far away from the purpose of this group.  This topic is now locked.
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*The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.*

         ~ John F. Kennedy


locked Re: My Wish list, various issues.

 

On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 09:12 PM, Chris Tromborg wrote:
What!  Do you mean that I have to give up my Optacon?
-
The questions are:  Does it do what you need it to?  Does it need any special care and feeding up through exceptional measures to make it keep doing so?

If the answers are "yes," and "no," respectively, then keep on keepin' on.

That's not what has been under discussion here.  When references are being made to issues with NVDA, and I'd have to presume that means the current version, and things like Outlook 2003 and the Windows 7 calculator, we're out of compliance with one of the group rules about discussion being limited to current versions of the operating systems and software.

The topic has strayed, and not just because of you, I'm guilty too, far away from the purpose of this group.  This topic is now locked.
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.

         ~ John F. Kennedy

 


locked Re: My Wish list, various issues.

Chris Tromborg
 

What!  Do you mean that I have to give up my Optacon?

 

Chris Tromborg, Ph.D.

Mountain Lion Foundation

Feline Conservation Foundation

Behavioral Enrichment for Captive Animals

Animal Communication, Behavior, & Cognition

Feline Conservation & Biology

1-530-753-2763 Home

1-530-902-2763 Cell

cattromborg@...

www.christromborg.com

 

  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2021 11:52 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] My Wish list, various issues.

 

On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 02:46 PM, Howard Traxler wrote:

However, I don't think anyone is gonna come around and hold a gun to my stupid head and force me to do what's good for me.

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Well, I don't think anyone's going to do that, either.

But given the number of hangers-on that I see on the blind-tech groups, in particular, it bears repeating that you must move on.

It really gets old having people expecting others to support things that have been out of support by their own official makers for years, and in most cases secondary to nothing but resistance to any change.

But when it comes to Windows, web browsers, and Screen Readers, if you expect to have them functioning as you'd like them to, all need to be up to date.  The rate of change in the computing world alone dictates it.
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The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.

         ~ John F. Kennedy

 


Re: MS Word focus issues when revising documents and their comments

Pranav Lal
 

Sally,

 

Many thanks for confirming and sorry I was unable to test. I believe NVAccess are planning to make UIA being enabled the default.

 

Pranav


using BrailleNote Apex as braille terminal with nVDA

JM Casey
 

Hey Everyone.

I recently came into possession of one of these units. I *think* it’s an Apex – it looks exactly like one of my older BN qwerty models though and syas it’s running Keysoft v8.1.

I’m trying to use this as a braille display with my  Windows 10 machine. However, NVDA does not appear to be detecting the display automatically, and activating the “braille note” model in settings, I get an error that says “Unable to load braille note device”.

I have the terminal mode on the BN set to on. I had to make some changes in Computer Management to let it work properly with Mobile Device Center for file transfers, but that’s a separate thing…the terminal should work without that anyway, right?

What am I missing? Any help would be apprecaited as I was really hoping to use this as a display for PC as neitehr of my standalone displays is working very well (the focus has messed up dots, of course, and the old Baum/Brailliant 80 thing has got power issues)

Thanks!

 

 


Re: nvdaCertPatch fails to work for me

Gene
 

That’s correct.  See this Microsoft page:
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2021 5:03 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvdaCertPatch fails to work for me
 

I didn’t know internet explorer was completely gone. I thought it was supposed to be completely gone in June of next year.

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Dave Grossoehme
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2021 2:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvdaCertPatch fails to work for me

 

Has this person read that Internet Explorer no longer exist? Micro Soft

shut Explorer down completely the beginning of October.  Micro Soft has

been warning not to use Explorer for sometime.

 

Dave

 

 

On 10/27/2021 10:10 AM, Dejan Ristic wrote:

> Hi Lukasz,

>

>

> I've tried opening www.nvaccess.org in Internet explorer, but to no

> avail. It says: This page can't be displayed. As for taking a look at

> the log, I have not done it, but due to the fact that I've just read

> Joseph's message directed to you and to all of us, I think that his

> explanation of the situation is much better than mine.

>

> Cheers,

>

> Dejan

>

> On 27/10/2021 18:22, Lukasz Golonka via groups.io wrote:

>> On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 18:15:08 +0200

>> "Dejan Ristic" <r.dejan83@...> wrote:

>>

>>> I can open it in Firefox.

>> I've asked for a test In Internet Explorer specifically.

>>

>>> As for an error, I get a message

>> saying: error checking for updates.

>>

>> Again that is not what I asked for. What is the error message you see in

>> NVDA's log accessible with NVDA+1?

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> .

>

 

 

 

 

 


Re: nvdaCertPatch fails to work for me

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I didn’t know internet explorer was completely gone. I thought it was supposed to be completely gone in June of next year.

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Dave Grossoehme
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2021 2:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvdaCertPatch fails to work for me

 

Has this person read that Internet Explorer no longer exist? Micro Soft

shut Explorer down completely the beginning of October.  Micro Soft has

been warning not to use Explorer for sometime.

 

Dave

 

 

On 10/27/2021 10:10 AM, Dejan Ristic wrote:

> Hi Lukasz,

> I've tried opening www.nvaccess.org in Internet explorer, but to no

> avail. It says: This page can't be displayed. As for taking a look at

> the log, I have not done it, but due to the fact that I've just read

> Joseph's message directed to you and to all of us, I think that his

> explanation of the situation is much better than mine.

> Cheers,

> Dejan

> On 27/10/2021 18:22, Lukasz Golonka via groups.io wrote:

>> On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 18:15:08 +0200

>> "Dejan Ristic" <r.dejan83@...> wrote:

>> 

>>> I can open it in Firefox.

>> I've asked for a test In Internet Explorer specifically.

>> 

>>> As for an error, I get a message

>> saying: error checking for updates.

>> 

>> Again that is not what I asked for. What is the error message you see in

>> NVDA's log accessible with NVDA+1?

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> .

 

 

 

 

 


Re: nvdaCertPatch fails to work for me

Dave Grossoehme
 

Has this person read that Internet Explorer no longer exist? Micro Soft shut Explorer down completely the beginning of October.  Micro Soft has been warning not to use Explorer for sometime.

Dave

On 10/27/2021 10:10 AM, Dejan Ristic wrote:
Hi Lukasz,


I've tried opening www.nvaccess.org in Internet explorer, but to no avail. It says: This page can't be displayed. As for taking a look at the log, I have not done it, but due to the fact that I've just read Joseph's message directed to you and to all of us, I think that his explanation of the situation is much better than mine.

Cheers,

Dejan

On 27/10/2021 18:22, Lukasz Golonka via groups.io wrote:
On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 18:15:08 +0200
"Dejan Ristic" <r.dejan83@gmail.com> wrote:

I can open it in Firefox.
I've asked for a test In Internet Explorer specifically.

As for an error, I get a message
saying: error checking for updates.

Again that is not what I asked for. What is the error message you see in
NVDA's log accessible with NVDA+1?





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locked Re: Making Portable NVDA

Daniel McGee
 

I think, the simplest way to run a portable copy is to run narrator. Plug in your flash drive, open up windows explorer, find the drive and hit enter and hopefully NVDA should start. Unload narrator and job done! I haven't created a portable copy of NVDA but this is how I would of approached this situation..

In Windows 10, we have the advantage of starting narrator from a simple keystroke. Why not utilize this and then customize our PC environment to our liking.

Best of luck

Howard, narrator is your best bet to get t the speech working. Start the machine and press control plus the win key plus enter. This turns narrator on and off.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Howard Traxler
Sent: October 29, 2021 12:42 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Making Portable NVDA

Thanks John. That sure did work. Tried it on my main machine and it works fine.

Now the big problem is:

I have another machine, a windows 10 computer that I bought about six years ago but never got it running; because I forgot the logon password. I'm hoping that I can get it as far as asking for the password, then make it talk. Gonna try this thumb drive or/and try narrator.

If you have other ideas, please suggest. I have found, downloaded, and set up a boot CD with a program that is supposed to let me take away the password. But I need to make the machine talk or get a sighty to read the screen. Well, maybe soon.

Thanks again.

Howard

On 10/29/2021 12:57 PM, John Isige wrote:
You can't. Well, you can if you already have access to the machine and
install some third party software on it and make a script on your USB
drive, but that doesn't solve your problem. The easiest thing, I
think, would be to name your drive with a number, so in the volume
label you'd type something like 1nvda or whatever. Then to run it,
you'd do the following.


1. insert drive into computer, wait for the noise that tells you it
was recognized.


2. Hit windows-e to get into file explorer.


3. Hit 1 to get to your drive.


4. Hit enter to get into your drive.


At this point, you want to set up the contents of the drive so you
have a numbered file, like 1.bat. Have that file run NVDA. So when
you're in that drive, hit 1 and hit enter again, and you should have NVDA running.
So for example, suppose on your machine, the drive is e:. You make a
portable copy of NVDA at e:\nvda. Label e: as 1nvda or whatever, then
go into the drive. Make a file called 1.bat with text like so.


#echo off

cd \nvda

nvda


Then, slap the drive into a new machine, hit win-e, 1, enter, 1, enter.
NVDA should run.


On 10/29/2021 12:40 PM, Howard Traxler wrote:
I have been successful at making a portable copy of NVDA on a USB
thumb drive. I can navigatte to it on my main computer, then shut
down the running NVDA, just hit the enter key and the portable copy
starts. I'd like to plug this thumb drive into a machine that has no
screen reader and have it start automatically. Can someone tell me
how to make this happen?

Thank you.

Howard














Re: braille code

Pierpaolo Tieri account ufficiale
 

Hi Marinos,
I'm Italian if you want, you can contact me I can help you with Italian language. Thanks, Pierpaolo Tieri.

Il 29/10/2021 22:36, marinos.poulimas ha scritto:
Good evening to all and to all
I would like some help for braille
Question How can I find the for the following languages?
Italian Spanish French German

anyone who knows where can i find the code written the alphabet of these languages to send me information

marinos greece





braille code

marinos.poulimas
 

Good evening to all and to all
I would like some help for braille
Question How can I find the for the following languages?
Italian Spanish French German

anyone who knows where can i find the code written the alphabet of these languages to send me information

marinos greece


locked Re: My Wish list, various issues.

Gene
 

A lot of people run unsupported software that is years old or older without the problem you are describing.  While things like browsers should be kept updated, there is a lot of unsupported software that runs well where security is not a concern. 
 
And browsers such as Firefox, Chrome, Brave and Edhge still support Windows 7.  I don’t know how long they will but they do.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: tim
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2021 12:06 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] My Wish list, various issues.
 
That is not a problem for NVDA, but more a win7 and resources. That is
how unsupported software gets, it keeps lagging until dead.


On 10/29/2021 12:19 PM, David Mellor wrote:
> Thanks for this Hope.
> I don't use the numpad insert though. I'm using a full sized USB external
> keyboard.
> The only time this problem occurs for me is when the machine is heavily
> loaded and labouring with a large number of open firefox windows.
> There would be a couple of seconds delay  after hitting Insert-f12 and then
> the dev console appears as if NVDA has missed the keystroke and it's been
> passed through to firefox instead.
> Now I know I just need to hit f12 to switch back again, that won't be a
> hassle anymore.
> Thank you,
> David
>
>
>
>
>
>
>




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