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Re: automatic config for k1000

Richard Kuzma
 

Yes, you just make a voice profile for that program.

If your not sure how to do it.

I can run you through it.

Thanks,

Rich

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of dennis huckle
Sent: Monday, November 1, 2021 12:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] automatic config for k1000

 

Hello all,

I may have asked this before but forgive if this is a repeat broadcast!.

On one of my desktop pcs I use k1000 for scanning documents.

I realise, of course I can press caps lock and s to turn speech off but is there a way of making me a lazy old man and get speech to turn off automatically when using k1000 then turning it off when closing the program.

Kind regards,

Dennis huckle.

 


automatic config for k1000

dennis huckle <denniswhuckle@...>
 

Hello all,

I may have asked this before but forgive if this is a repeat broadcast!.

On one of my desktop pcs I use k1000 for scanning documents.

I realise, of course I can press caps lock and s to turn speech off but is there a way of making me a lazy old man and get speech to turn off automatically when using k1000 then turning it off when closing the program.

Kind regards,

Dennis huckle.

 


Re: Punctuation level has stopped working

 

On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 11:29 AM, Gerry wrote:
I have the latest version installed, do I have to uninstall first in order to re-install and see the licence dialogue?
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No, the License agreement is the very first thing that pops up, and that's by intention since you could be choosing to run what amounts to a portable version of the version you're already using, but "naked," that is, without any of your existing add-ons or other customizations associated with it.

That's a convenient way to figure out if an add-on and/or some settings tweaking you've done for your installed version is causing something to occur that does not occur in the "naked" version.  You can also do the tweaks you know you have already done in your installed version, one at a time, in an attempt to see which thing suddenly makes things go wonky.  I've never tried getting add-ons when using this "on the fly" method.
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Re: Punctuation level has stopped working

Tyler Spivey
 

What are you doing to change the punctuation level, and what does NVDA say?

Also, which punctuation is being read?

On 11/1/2021 8:29 AM, Gerry wrote:
This sounds interesting
Brian wrote...
This is a very convenient way to test with another version of NVDA if all you have is the installer and you don't really want to install or to create a portable copy for use elsewhere.
I have the latest version installed, do I have to uninstall first in order to re-install and see the licence dialogue?
I am not very tekky, so would it be easier to go for the portable version?
thanks
Gerry
On 01/11/2021 15:02, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 09:51 AM, Gene wrote:

You can see if the problem is an NVDA problem or something else by
running the exe file and creating a portable version.

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As an aside, you don't even have to go so far as creating a portable version.  One of the buttons in the License Agreement dialog that is the first thing that shows up when you run the installer is /Continue running/.  The other two are /Install NVDA on this computer/ and /Create a Portable Copy/.

Activating the /Continue/ /running/ button makes the installer itself act as though it is a portable copy (without any add-ons or other configuration changes) without actually having to create an actual portable copy.  It also doesn't, of course, install on the computer, either.

This is a very convenient way to test with another version of NVDA if all you have is the installer and you don't really want to install or to create a portable copy for use elsewhere.
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Re: Punctuation level has stopped working

Gerry
 

This sounds interesting

Brian wrote...


This is a very convenient way to test with another version of NVDA if all you have is the installer and you don't really want to install or to create a portable copy for use elsewhere.

I have the latest version installed, do I have to uninstall first in order to re-install and see the licence dialogue?

I am not very tekky, so would it be easier to go for the portable version?

thanks

Gerry


On 01/11/2021 15:02, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 09:51 AM, Gene wrote:
You can see if the problem is an NVDA problem or something else by running the exe file and creating a portable version.
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As an aside, you don't even have to go so far as creating a portable version.  One of the buttons in the License Agreement dialog that is the first thing that shows up when you run the installer is Continue running.  The other two are Install NVDA on this computer and Create a Portable Copy.

Activating the Continue running button makes the installer itself act as though it is a portable copy (without any add-ons or other configuration changes) without actually having to create an actual portable copy.  It also doesn't, of course, install on the computer, either.

This is a very convenient way to test with another version of NVDA if all you have is the installer and you don't really want to install or to create a portable copy for use elsewhere.
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Re: Punctuation level has stopped working

 

On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 09:51 AM, Gene wrote:
You can see if the problem is an NVDA problem or something else by running the exe file and creating a portable version.
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As an aside, you don't even have to go so far as creating a portable version.  One of the buttons in the License Agreement dialog that is the first thing that shows up when you run the installer is Continue running.  The other two are Install NVDA on this computer and Create a Portable Copy.

Activating the Continue running button makes the installer itself act as though it is a portable copy (without any add-ons or other configuration changes) without actually having to create an actual portable copy.  It also doesn't, of course, install on the computer, either.

This is a very convenient way to test with another version of NVDA if all you have is the installer and you don't really want to install or to create a portable copy for use elsewhere.
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locked Re: Making Portable NVDA

 
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On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 10:20 AM, Eduardo Fermiano Luccas wrote:
Are you saying you want to create a portable NVDA?
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No.  And not due to your post, but because this topic has really "gone off the rails," it will be locked after this message.

Here's my tutorial for making a portable copy of NVDA:

Creating a Portable Copy of NVDA

It is presumed that you have either a USB thumb drive or SD card plugged in and ready to go on which the portable copy of NVDA will be created.

Method 1:

1. Fire up the installer for the NVDA version for which you wish to create a portable copy.

2. When the License Agreement dialog appears, check the I agree checkbox then activate the Create a portable copy button.

3. When the Create Portable NVDA dialog comes up, you will land in an edit box where you can type in the folder where you want the portable copy created.  I never do this, choosing to activate the Browse button instead, and using the standard Windows dialog for navigating to a folder and/or creating a new folder there in which to place the portable copy.

4. If you wish the portable copy to begin running immediately after it’s been created, then check the Start the new portable copy after creation checkbox.  If not, then don’t.

5. Activate the Continue button.  The Creating Portable Copy dialog will appear and give you a progress indication regarding the portable copy creation.  When it finishes, you should get a Success dialog with a Close button.  Once you’ve activated that button you’re done.  If you checked the checkbox in step 4 that portable copy will start running immediately. (Note, I have had occasions where the Portable Copy began running immediately even when this checkbox was not checked.  That happened for NVDA 2020.3).  It is my presumption that using this method gets you a “naked” version of NVDA portable, that is, no add-ons you may be using are included.  If you have an existing installed NVDA, with add-ons, where you want that entire setup to be duplicated in portable form, then use Method 2.

 

Method 2:

1. Hit NVDA + N, T, C (NVDA Menu, Tools, Create a Portable Copy) to bring up the Create Portable Copy dialog.

2. When the Create Portable NVDA dialog comes up, you will land in an edit box where you can type in the folder where you want the portable copy created.  I never do this, choosing to activate the Browse button instead, and using the standard Windows dialog for navigating to a folder and/or creating a new folder there in which to place the portable copy.

3. When you are creating a portable copy from an existing installed copy, you will also be presented with a checklist for Copy current user configuration.  If you want all of your add-ons and other configuration choices as part of your portable copy, then check this checkbox.

4. If you wish the portable copy to begin running immediately after it’s been created, then check the Start the new portable copy after creation checkbox.  If not, then don’t.

5. Activate the Continue button.  The Creating Portable Copy dialog will appear and give you a progress indication regarding the portable copy creation.  When it finishes, you should get a Success dialog with a Close button.  Once you’ve activated that button you’re done.  If you checked the checkbox in step 4 that portable copy will start running immediately.

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locked Re: Making Portable NVDA

Eduardo Fermiano Luccas
 

Are you saying you want to create a portable NVDA?

Em seg., 1 de nov. de 2021 às 11:08, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> escreveu:

On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 03:20 AM, Emmanuel Junaid wrote:
Please I need the step-by-step instruction as a beginner on how to make my NVDA portable run from my USB drive.
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Quite literally, you run it like you'd run any other program from a USB drive.  You cannot have a portable version of NVDA fire up when the computer boots, you need to use the installed NVDA (or JAWS, too) in order for that to happen.

Otherwise, you are going to have to bring up Narrator, open your USB drive, start NVDA, and close Narrator as soon as you hear NVDA speaking.  Those are the steps. 
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locked Re: Making Portable NVDA

 

On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 03:20 AM, Emmanuel Junaid wrote:
Please I need the step-by-step instruction as a beginner on how to make my NVDA portable run from my USB drive.
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Quite literally, you run it like you'd run any other program from a USB drive.  You cannot have a portable version of NVDA fire up when the computer boots, you need to use the installed NVDA (or JAWS, too) in order for that to happen.

Otherwise, you are going to have to bring up Narrator, open your USB drive, start NVDA, and close Narrator as soon as you hear NVDA speaking.  Those are the steps. 
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locked Re: Making Portable NVDA

 

On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 07:30 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
You don’t need sighted assistance to completely reinstall Windows 10, I have done it on many occasions.
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I'm sorry, but what you describe, in both cases, is not a completely clean reinstall.  Emphasis on the clean part, which means wiping the entire system drive as part of the bargain.

A Reset comes close, but uses the OEM recovery partition (usually), so you get back Windows as it came installed on your computer, bloatware and all.  But that definitely doesn't require sighted assistance.

A completely clean reinstall requires changing boot order to boot from USB first in the order as well as running the diskpart command to clear all disk partitions and contents (though, by that stage) you absolutely could have turned on Narrator.  As soon as Windows loads, even as part of installing itself, Narrator becomes available.  But if you can tell me how you access UEFI/BIOS without a screen reader, on any random machine, I'd really like to hear it because UEFI/BIOS interfaces are wildly different depending on the motherboard and what UEFI/BIOS is loaded on it.

The Media Creation Tool has nothing to do with a clean reinstall.  It creates the media used, but doesn't itself do the install.  You can, of course, do a Repair Install or Feature Update with that media, choosing to keep nothing, but, again, that is not the same as a completely clean reinstall.

And none of the above is hair splitting.  While a lot of these things are similar, they are not the same.
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Re: Punctuation level has stopped working

Gene
 

Do you have the exe file for installing NVDA?  You can see if the problem is an NVDA problem or something else by running the exe file and creating a portable version.  Then close NVDA and run the portable version.  Do you still have the same problem and do you have it when running the same voice?  If you don't, you can uninstall NVDA and manually uninstall anything that the uninstaller leaves behind.  Settings, for example, are probably left behind.  Then you can do a complete reinstall, but before doing that and having to set everything over again and install add-ons again, you can test with a portable version.


Gene

On 11/1/2021 7:02 AM, Gerry wrote:
No, when I changed the setting it had no effect, either immediately or after a restart. In answer to a question from Quentin, when the problem first arose, I updated to the latest version first before trying out anything else.

thanks

Gerry


On 01/11/2021 11:18, Gene wrote:
When you say it didn't work, do you mean you could change the setting and it worked until you quit NVDA and ran it again or are you saying that there was no change when you tried to change the setting? the answer to the question may help identify what is causing the problem.


Gene

On 11/1/2021 6:05 AM, Gerry wrote:
Hello

A few days ago I noticed that the Punctuation level set in my nvda had changed to All. This is not what I want.

I tried to reset to Some but this did not work. I tried to reset to None, same result. In both cases I saved the settings and restarted my computer. Nothing seems to work.

I am on nvda version 2021.2 and Windows 10 version 21h OS build 19043.1288

I have looked at the user manual but cannot see what I am doing wrong.

I have not tried the COMREG as it seems over the top for this issue.

I have no Add-ons running.

Any ideas.

Thanks

Gerry Parsons












Re: Punctuation level has stopped working

Gerry
 

I use David from One core voices. I tried your suggestion but it made no difference, but thanks.

Gerry


On 01/11/2021 12:10, Eduardo Fermiano Luccas wrote:
what voice are you using in NVDA? as they said, it could be the voice, but I don't think so, because before it was doing fine, so I don't know the problem, but try switching to espeak NG and see if the problem persists

Em seg., 1 de nov. de 2021 às 09:03, Gerry <gkparsons46@...> escreveu:
No, when I changed the setting it had no effect, either immediately or
after a restart. In answer to a question from Quentin, when the problem
first arose, I updated to the latest version first before trying out
anything else.

thanks

Gerry


On 01/11/2021 11:18, Gene wrote:
> When you say it didn't work, do you mean you could change the setting
> and it worked until you quit NVDA and ran it again or are you saying
> that there was no change when you tried to change the setting? the
> answer to the question may help identify what is causing the problem.
>
>
> Gene
>
> On 11/1/2021 6:05 AM, Gerry wrote:
>> Hello
>>
>> A few days ago I noticed that the Punctuation level set in my nvda
>> had changed to All. This is not what I want.
>>
>> I tried to reset to Some but this did not work. I tried to reset to
>> None, same result. In both cases I saved the settings and restarted
>> my computer. Nothing seems to work.
>>
>> I am on nvda version 2021.2 and Windows 10 version 21h OS build
>> 19043.1288
>>
>> I have looked at the user manual but cannot see what I am doing wrong.
>>
>> I have not tried the COMREG as it seems over the top for this issue.
>>
>> I have no Add-ons running.
>>
>> Any ideas.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Gerry Parsons
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>






Re: Punctuation level has stopped working

Eduardo Fermiano Luccas
 

what voice are you using in NVDA? as they said, it could be the voice, but I don't think so, because before it was doing fine, so I don't know the problem, but try switching to espeak NG and see if the problem persists

Em seg., 1 de nov. de 2021 às 09:03, Gerry <gkparsons46@...> escreveu:

No, when I changed the setting it had no effect, either immediately or
after a restart. In answer to a question from Quentin, when the problem
first arose, I updated to the latest version first before trying out
anything else.

thanks

Gerry


On 01/11/2021 11:18, Gene wrote:
> When you say it didn't work, do you mean you could change the setting
> and it worked until you quit NVDA and ran it again or are you saying
> that there was no change when you tried to change the setting? the
> answer to the question may help identify what is causing the problem.
>
>
> Gene
>
> On 11/1/2021 6:05 AM, Gerry wrote:
>> Hello
>>
>> A few days ago I noticed that the Punctuation level set in my nvda
>> had changed to All. This is not what I want.
>>
>> I tried to reset to Some but this did not work. I tried to reset to
>> None, same result. In both cases I saved the settings and restarted
>> my computer. Nothing seems to work.
>>
>> I am on nvda version 2021.2 and Windows 10 version 21h OS build
>> 19043.1288
>>
>> I have looked at the user manual but cannot see what I am doing wrong.
>>
>> I have not tried the COMREG as it seems over the top for this issue.
>>
>> I have no Add-ons running.
>>
>> Any ideas.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Gerry Parsons
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>






Re: Punctuation level has stopped working

Eduardo Fermiano Luccas
 

Have you ever had the idea of restoring NVDA settings? If that doesn't work, re-install NVDA

Em seg., 1 de nov. de 2021 às 08:18, Gene <gsasner@...> escreveu:

When you say it didn't work, do you mean you could change the setting
and it worked until you quit NVDA and ran it again or are you saying
that there was no change when you tried to change the setting?  the
answer to the question may help identify what is causing the problem.


Gene

On 11/1/2021 6:05 AM, Gerry wrote:
> Hello
>
> A few days ago I noticed that the Punctuation level set in my nvda had
> changed to All. This is not what I want.
>
> I tried to reset to Some but this did not work. I tried to reset to
> None, same result. In both cases I saved the settings and restarted my
> computer. Nothing seems to work.
>
> I am on nvda version 2021.2 and Windows 10 version 21h OS build
> 19043.1288
>
> I have looked at the user manual but cannot see what I am doing wrong.
>
> I have not tried the COMREG as it seems over the top for this issue.
>
> I have no Add-ons running.
>
> Any ideas.
>
> Thanks
>
> Gerry Parsons
>
>
>
>
>
>
>






Re: Punctuation level has stopped working

Gerry
 

No, when I changed the setting it had no effect, either immediately or after a restart. In answer to a question from Quentin, when the problem first arose, I updated to the latest version first before trying out anything else.

thanks

Gerry

On 01/11/2021 11:18, Gene wrote:
When you say it didn't work, do you mean you could change the setting and it worked until you quit NVDA and ran it again or are you saying that there was no change when you tried to change the setting? the answer to the question may help identify what is causing the problem.


Gene

On 11/1/2021 6:05 AM, Gerry wrote:
Hello

A few days ago I noticed that the Punctuation level set in my nvda had changed to All. This is not what I want.

I tried to reset to Some but this did not work. I tried to reset to None, same result. In both cases I saved the settings and restarted my computer. Nothing seems to work.

I am on nvda version 2021.2 and Windows 10 version 21h OS build 19043.1288

I have looked at the user manual but cannot see what I am doing wrong.

I have not tried the COMREG as it seems over the top for this issue.

I have no Add-ons running.

Any ideas.

Thanks

Gerry Parsons









locked Re: Making Portable NVDA

Steve Nutt
 

Hi,

 

You don’t need sighted assistance to completely reinstall Windows 10, I have done it on many occasions.

 

Once the media creation tool is running on the PC, then Narrator will kick in.

 

Reset This PC keeping nothing, will effectively do the same thing, again, no sighted help needed.

 

All the best


Steve

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: 30 October 2021 16:15
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Making Portable NVDA

 

On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 02:42 PM, Howard Traxler wrote:

If you have other ideas, please suggest.

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Given the history of this machine, I would suggest:  Doing a Completely Clean (Re)install of Windows 10 Using Media Creation Tool to Create Bootable Win10 Install Media on a USB Thumb Drive

You will end up needing sighted assistance because this process involves some "pre-Windows being active" steps.   But it allows you to wipe the machine completely clean and start entirely afresh with the latest version of Windows.  You'll even have to set up your account on the machine again.
 
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Re: Punctuation level has stopped working

Gene
 

When you say it didn't work, do you mean you could change the setting and it worked until you quit NVDA and ran it again or are you saying that there was no change when you tried to change the setting?  the answer to the question may help identify what is causing the problem.


Gene

On 11/1/2021 6:05 AM, Gerry wrote:
Hello

A few days ago I noticed that the Punctuation level set in my nvda had changed to All. This is not what I want.

I tried to reset to Some but this did not work. I tried to reset to None, same result. In both cases I saved the settings and restarted my computer. Nothing seems to work.

I am on nvda version 2021.2 and Windows 10 version 21h OS build 19043.1288

I have looked at the user manual but cannot see what I am doing wrong.

I have not tried the COMREG as it seems over the top for this issue.

I have no Add-ons running.

Any ideas.

Thanks

Gerry Parsons






Re: Punctuation level has stopped working

Quentin Christensen
 

Are you using any NVDA add-ons?  For it to have changed a few days ago if you have been running NVDA 2021.2 for some time indicates a change in something other than NVDA itself, and to affect an NVDA feature such as punctuation, a change to an add-on or your synthesizer seem most likely.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 10:06 PM Gerry <gkparsons46@...> wrote:
Hello

A few days ago I noticed that the Punctuation level set in my nvda had
changed to All. This is not what I want.

I tried to reset to Some but this did not work. I tried to reset to
None, same result. In both cases I saved the settings and restarted my
computer. Nothing seems to work.

I am on nvda version 2021.2 and Windows 10 version 21h OS build 19043.1288

I have looked at the user manual but cannot see what I am doing wrong.

I have not tried the COMREG as it seems over the top for this issue.

I have no Add-ons running.

Any ideas.

Thanks

Gerry Parsons









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Punctuation level has stopped working

Gerry
 

Hello

A few days ago I noticed that the Punctuation level set in my nvda had changed to All. This is not what I want.

I tried to reset to Some but this did not work. I tried to reset to None, same result. In both cases I saved the settings and restarted my computer. Nothing seems to work.

I am on nvda version 2021.2 and Windows 10 version 21h OS build 19043.1288

I have looked at the user manual but cannot see what I am doing wrong.

I have not tried the COMREG as it seems over the top for this issue.

I have no Add-ons running.

Any ideas.

Thanks

Gerry Parsons


ENHANCED PHONETIC READING

Stephen Thacker
 

Hi Quentin says use the beta as the link to the url I was sent is blocked. Please can someone send me the link for Enhanced Phonetic Reading Beta and nothing else as I have no interest in other projects or adons at this time. Someone suggested using the windows key with either 2 or 6 and this doesn’t work either on the number keypad or on the number keys below the fkeys. Thanks, Steve

Cheers, Steve

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