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Excel Dropdowns (i.e., submenu) - NVDA stops speaking after exiting these

Heather Campbell
 

Hello everyone, 

I'm experiencing an issue when using NVDA 2021.2 to interact with dropdowns/submenus in an Excel file (Office 365). I can press Alt + Down Arrow to expand the list, Down Arrow to the desired option, and then press Enter. However, if I then try to navigate in the sheet, NVDA stops talking. If I Alt + Tab to a different window and then Alt + Tab back to the Excel file, NVDA starts speaking again. Has anyone else experienced this issue? Are there any work arounds? I'm using Windows 10, version 21H1.

Thank you!

Heather 


Re: A weird problem with OCR on latest version of nvda

Eduardo Fermiano Luccas
 

which program is giving the error?

Em ter., 2 de nov. de 2021 às 11:11, Margus Ojaots <margus.ojaots@...> escreveu:

Yes I am

2021-11-02 14:24 GMT +02:00, Eduardo Fermiano Luccas <25102008luccas@...>:
> are you using windows 10?
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> Em ter., 2 de nov. de 2021 às 08:21, Margus Ojaots
> <margus.ojaots@...>
> escreveu:
>
>> Hello. So i tried to use OCR  for an app, when i pressed caps lock +r,
>> it didn't open the OCR window ven though screen curtain was turned
>> off. What could be the problem?
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Language issue

 

Hi group,

Recently I added additional languages by going to the control panel
and French was one of them.
I am doing work on a MS Word form and NVDA speaks french although my
choice in both NVDA and the language choice under Control Panel is
English.
The strange thing is that when I opened another Word document, not a
form, and typed sentences the result was in English.
I went back to languages under Control Panel and removed French.
But nothing changed. I still hear French in my MS Word form.
I would like to hear your take on this phenomenon and your ideas how
to put it right.
Thanking you in advance for your contributions.
Nevzat

--
Nevzat Adil
Library of Congress Certified
Literary Braille Proofreader
C: 512 502 4403
e-mail: nevzatadil@...
Facebook: m.facebook.com/LiteraryBrailleProofreader


Re: Controlling my desktop with NVDA remote from my laptop

Saylor Cooper
 

I was actually able to successfully connect, thanks.

Saylor Cooper

On Nov 2, 2021, at 5:35 AM, Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@...> wrote:



Hi

Below is a link to a site giving details of alternative NVDA Remote relay servers, so you could set the Host to the one nearest your location to reduce any lag in the connection.

 

https://nvra.io/

 

It is advisable to ensure you use the same keyboard layout on both machines. 

 

The settings in the Connect dialog for the machines should be:

 

1st Control: Client (on both machines)

2nd Control: Laptop= “Control another machine”, Desktop=”Allow machine to be Controlled”

Host: nvdaremote.com or closer relay server

Key: Same key on both machines

Tab to OK and press enter.

 

Just because NVDA Remote connects to the relay server, does not necessarily mean the two computers can connect because there may be errors in the connection details.  The details given above, if followed correctly, should ensure you can successfully connect your computers.

 

On the Desktop computer, press NVDA+n followed by t, e, o to open the Remote Options menu and ensure “Auto connect to control server” is checked, then exit this menu.  Press NVDA+Control+n to restart NVDA and ensure the remote connection takes place.  You can verify this by pressing NVDA+n followed by t, e.  If the connect option at the top of the menu is unavailable, you have connected to the remote server. 

 

Cheers

Chris

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Saylor Cooper
Sent: 02 November 2021 04:59
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Controlling my desktop with NVDA remote from my laptop

 

Hello, I’m having problems connecting to my desktop from my laptop using NVDA remote. On my desktop, to set everything up I went to the NVDA menu, tools, remote, options, checked auto connect to server on STARZ up, use remote control server radio button, allow this machine to be controlled radio button. Then I created my host: Saylor‘s desktop, then created my key. On my laptop, I went to NVDA menu, tools, remote, connect, client, control a remote machine. I entered the host: Saylor‘s desktop, then my key and I get an error unable to connect to the remote computer. How long does my key have to because it is six digits. I also just tried putting in the host nvdaremote.com and then my key which would then connect however, once I pressed F11 and then it is controlling the remote machine, I can’t really control it because I tried to press the windows key and arrow keys and nothing. What can I do to fix this?

 

Saylor Cooper

 

 

 

 


Re: A weird problem with OCR on latest version of nvda

Margus Ojaots
 

Yes I am

2021-11-02 14:24 GMT +02:00, Eduardo Fermiano Luccas <25102008luccas@...>:

are you using windows 10?

Em ter., 2 de nov. de 2021 às 08:21, Margus Ojaots
<margus.ojaots@...>
escreveu:

Hello. So i tried to use OCR for an app, when i pressed caps lock +r,
it didn't open the OCR window ven though screen curtain was turned
off. What could be the problem?










Re: A weird problem with OCR on latest version of nvda

Eduardo Fermiano Luccas
 

are you using windows 10?

Em ter., 2 de nov. de 2021 às 08:21, Margus Ojaots <margus.ojaots@...> escreveu:

Hello. So i tried to use OCR  for an app, when i pressed caps lock +r,
it didn't open the OCR window ven though screen curtain was turned
off. What could be the problem?






A weird problem with OCR on latest version of nvda

Margus Ojaots
 

Hello. So i tried to use OCR for an app, when i pressed caps lock +r,
it didn't open the OCR window ven though screen curtain was turned
off. What could be the problem?


Re: Controlling my desktop with NVDA remote from my laptop

Chris Mullins
 

Hi

Below is a link to a site giving details of alternative NVDA Remote relay servers, so you could set the Host to the one nearest your location to reduce any lag in the connection.

 

https://nvra.io/

 

It is advisable to ensure you use the same keyboard layout on both machines. 

 

The settings in the Connect dialog for the machines should be:

 

1st Control: Client (on both machines)

2nd Control: Laptop= “Control another machine”, Desktop=”Allow machine to be Controlled”

Host: nvdaremote.com or closer relay server

Key: Same key on both machines

Tab to OK and press enter.

 

Just because NVDA Remote connects to the relay server, does not necessarily mean the two computers can connect because there may be errors in the connection details.  The details given above, if followed correctly, should ensure you can successfully connect your computers.

 

On the Desktop computer, press NVDA+n followed by t, e, o to open the Remote Options menu and ensure “Auto connect to control server” is checked, then exit this menu.  Press NVDA+Control+n to restart NVDA and ensure the remote connection takes place.  You can verify this by pressing NVDA+n followed by t, e.  If the connect option at the top of the menu is unavailable, you have connected to the remote server. 

 

Cheers

Chris

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows

 

From: Saylor Cooper
Sent: 02 November 2021 04:59
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Controlling my desktop with NVDA remote from my laptop

 

Hello, I’m having problems connecting to my desktop from my laptop using NVDA remote. On my desktop, to set everything up I went to the NVDA menu, tools, remote, options, checked auto connect to server on STARZ up, use remote control server radio button, allow this machine to be controlled radio button. Then I created my host: Saylor‘s desktop, then created my key. On my laptop, I went to NVDA menu, tools, remote, connect, client, control a remote machine. I entered the host: Saylor‘s desktop, then my key and I get an error unable to connect to the remote computer. How long does my key have to because it is six digits. I also just tried putting in the host nvdaremote.com and then my key which would then connect however, once I pressed F11 and then it is controlling the remote machine, I can’t really control it because I tried to press the windows key and arrow keys and nothing. What can I do to fix this?

 

Saylor Cooper

 

 

 

 


Re: automatic config for k1000

dennis huckle <denniswhuckle@...>
 

Thanks David,

I am a relatively new user of nvda.

Its really good to know there are people willing to help out there.

You may remember My first concern was some months ago, using a braille display with nvda and Thanks to others I produced a guide and was happy to pass it on to other users of nvda.

So thanks to you for guiding me in the right direction but also to rich for providing the assistance so  quickly.

Kind regards,

Dennis huckle.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: 01 November 2021 23:37
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] automatic config for k1000

 

Richard,

I won’t stop you from explaining the procedure if that’s what you want to do. However, section 12.4 of the NVDA users guide documents this feature. This is true in beta 1 of version 2021.3. Press the NVDA key with the letter N to open the manual, then go to the Help submenu where the user guide is located.

 

 

David Goldfield,

Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

JAWS Certified, 2019

Subscribe to the Tech-VI announcement list to receive emails regarding news and events in the blindness assistive technology field.

Email: tech-vi+subscribe@groups.io

 

www.DavidGoldfield.org

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Kuzma via groups.io
Sent: Monday, November 1, 2021 12:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] automatic config for k1000

 

Yes, you just make a voice profile for that program.

If your not sure how to do it.

I can run you through it.

Thanks,

Rich

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of dennis huckle
Sent: Monday, November 1, 2021 12:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] automatic config for k1000

 

Hello all,

I may have asked this before but forgive if this is a repeat broadcast!.

On one of my desktop pcs I use k1000 for scanning documents.

I realise, of course I can press caps lock and s to turn speech off but is there a way of making me a lazy old man and get speech to turn off automatically when using k1000 then turning it off when closing the program.

Kind regards,

Dennis huckle.

 


Controlling my desktop with NVDA remote from my laptop

Saylor Cooper
 

Hello, I’m having problems connecting to my desktop from my laptop using NVDA remote. On my desktop, to set everything up I went to the NVDA menu, tools, remote, options, checked auto connect to server on STARZ up, use remote control server radio button, allow this machine to be controlled radio button. Then I created my host: Saylor‘s desktop, then created my key. On my laptop, I went to NVDA menu, tools, remote, connect, client, control a remote machine. I entered the host: Saylor‘s desktop, then my key and I get an error unable to connect to the remote computer. How long does my key have to because it is six digits. I also just tried putting in the host nvdaremote.com and then my key which would then connect however, once I pressed F11 and then it is controlling the remote machine, I can’t really control it because I tried to press the windows key and arrow keys and nothing. What can I do to fix this?

Saylor Cooper


Re: Code Factory Question

Tracy <tracy.mousseau@...>
 

I had that problem and contacted CodeFactory who sent me my ID number to download again without paying.


Tracy

On 2021-11-01 9:31 p.m., E.T. via groups.io wrote:
Hi group,
   Running NVDA 2020.4. I'm have trouble getting my Code Factory add-on to work again. My notes may be out of date so hopefully someone here can assist.

   I've had to restore my Windows VM and somewhere along the way NVDA went back to the default voice. Thanks much.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
will make violent revolution inevitable."
 --John F. Kennedy
My e-Mail:
Ancient.Aliens@...




Code Factory Question

E.T.
 

Hi group,
Running NVDA 2020.4. I'm have trouble getting my Code Factory add-on to work again. My notes may be out of date so hopefully someone here can assist.

I've had to restore my Windows VM and somewhere along the way NVDA went back to the default voice. Thanks much.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
will make violent revolution inevitable."
--John F. Kennedy
My e-Mail:
Ancient.Aliens@...


Re: automatic config for k1000

David Goldfield
 

Richard,

I won’t stop you from explaining the procedure if that’s what you want to do. However, section 12.4 of the NVDA users guide documents this feature. This is true in beta 1 of version 2021.3. Press the NVDA key with the letter N to open the manual, then go to the Help submenu where the user guide is located.

 

 

David Goldfield,

Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

JAWS Certified, 2019

Subscribe to the Tech-VI announcement list to receive emails regarding news and events in the blindness assistive technology field.

Email: tech-vi+subscribe@groups.io

 

www.DavidGoldfield.org

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Kuzma via groups.io
Sent: Monday, November 1, 2021 12:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] automatic config for k1000

 

Yes, you just make a voice profile for that program.

If your not sure how to do it.

I can run you through it.

Thanks,

Rich

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of dennis huckle
Sent: Monday, November 1, 2021 12:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] automatic config for k1000

 

Hello all,

I may have asked this before but forgive if this is a repeat broadcast!.

On one of my desktop pcs I use k1000 for scanning documents.

I realise, of course I can press caps lock and s to turn speech off but is there a way of making me a lazy old man and get speech to turn off automatically when using k1000 then turning it off when closing the program.

Kind regards,

Dennis huckle.

 


Re: ssl error with nvda update and nvda remote add-on

Deenadayalan Moodley
 

Hi Quentin,

 

Using 2021.3 beta 1 if you encounter a link in an outlook message, the up or down arrows seem to get stuck.  This is with Office 2016. Can someone else verify before we log a bug? The work around at this stage is to press the tab key which seems to get you out of the link.

 

Thanks.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, 01 November 2021 00:54
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] ssl error with nvda update and nvda remote add-on

 

The add-on should still work, but it's probably easiest now to simply recommend installing the beta - because of our continuous alpha branch which seems well tested by a number of users, the beta version is generally pretty stable - and of course if there IS an issue, then it's important we find out about it (and once you run it and check for updates, the SSL error should be fixed so even if you needed to revert to 2021.2, the check for updates bug at least should be fixed.

 

Quentin.

 

On Sun, Oct 31, 2021 at 3:20 AM Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

On Sat, Oct 30, 2021 at 12:03 PM, Rui Fontes wrote:

Install the NVDA 2021.3 Beta version...

-
Or that.   So far, it seems to be working well.  Download link on this page:  https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2021-3beta1/ 
 
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.

         ~ John F. Kennedy

 


 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 


Re: Punctuation level has stopped working

Gene
 

The level in the Punctuation/symbol pronunciation dialog tells NVDA at what level to speak a punctuation symbol. If you set it to none, it will be spoken when you have punctuation set to none, and all higher levels such as some, most, etc.  If you set it to some, it won’t be spoken in the none level but it will be spoken in some and all higher levels, and so on.  You set the level for each punctuation mark individually. 
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Gerry
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2021 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Punctuation level has stopped working
 

I have found the answer and I apologise for the red herring. When the problem started I went into Preferences and then Punctuation/Symbol pronunciation. Now I have found another option to select Punctuation in the Speech menu and this was set to All. Having reset to Some it now works OK.

Is there a reason for Punctuation level to be in two places?

Thanks for all the help and I will be making myself a portable copy.

Gerry

 

 

On 01/11/2021 17:43, Brian Vogel wr
On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 12:45 PM, Gene wrote:
When I run the exe file and use the continue running option, the program runs with the settings it somehow finds in the installed version.
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I have the same issue, but hadn't really noticed during my initial testing.  Even though I have the 2021.3 beta installed, if I run the 2020.3 installer with the continue running option it does pick up my add-ons.

So, I'll retract in that if you want the easiest way to create a "naked" copy of NVDA, I'd definitely either create a portable copy straight out of the installer or out of an installed version of NVDA but not checking the checkbox for Copy current user configuration.

It's far too easy to forget about this "automagic pickup" of existing installed bits, and if you're intentionally trying to avoid that, best to use the way that insures you are avoiding that, even if it takes a bit more time to set up.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.

         ~ John F. Kennedy

 


Re: Punctuation level has stopped working

Gerry
 

I have found the answer and I apologise for the red herring. When the problem started I went into Preferences and then Punctuation/Symbol pronunciation. Now I have found another option to select Punctuation in the Speech menu and this was set to All. Having reset to Some it now works OK.

Is there a reason for Punctuation level to be in two places?

Thanks for all the help and I will be making myself a portable copy.

Gerry



On 01/11/2021 17:43, Brian Vogel wr

On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 12:45 PM, Gene wrote:
When I run the exe file and use the continue running option, the program runs with the settings it somehow finds in the installed version.
-
I have the same issue, but hadn't really noticed during my initial testing.  Even though I have the 2021.3 beta installed, if I run the 2020.3 installer with the continue running option it does pick up my add-ons.

So, I'll retract in that if you want the easiest way to create a "naked" copy of NVDA, I'd definitely either create a portable copy straight out of the installer or out of an installed version of NVDA but not checking the checkbox for Copy current user configuration.

It's far too easy to forget about this "automagic pickup" of existing installed bits, and if you're intentionally trying to avoid that, best to use the way that insures you are avoiding that, even if it takes a bit more time to set up.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.

         ~ John F. Kennedy

 


Re: NVD advansedA settings

Gene
 

I would think the safest way to do this is to turn off automatically save settings on exit.  If you do something that causes problems you can’t use the apply saved configuration to to go back while NVDA is running, if you quit NVDA then run it again, it will use the saved unchanged configuration and run just as it did before.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Jujube
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2021 12:28 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVD advansedA settings
 
I think you can ignore the warning in most cases, for example, a lot of us office 365 users have to enable the UI automation options because it offers better performance. UIA will be the future of office 365 users, and the only reason it's not enabled by default yet is because it still has quite a few bugs.
 
On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 10:19 AM Eduardo Fermiano Luccas <25102008luccas@...> wrote:
I wanted to change the settings, but as the warning says, if I change without knowing what I'm doing, NVDA might stop working correctly
 
Em seg., 1 de nov. de 2021 às 14:13, Jujube <ellaxyu@...> escreveu:
I would just go into the advanced settings, accept the warning and see what happens. It really depends on what you want to change.
 
On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 10:02 AM Eduardo Fermiano Luccas <25102008luccas@...> wrote:
hi, i wanted to change advanced NVDA settings, but i wanted advice before doing this


Re: Punctuation level has stopped working

 

On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 12:45 PM, Gene wrote:
When I run the exe file and use the continue running option, the program runs with the settings it somehow finds in the installed version.
-
I have the same issue, but hadn't really noticed during my initial testing.  Even though I have the 2021.3 beta installed, if I run the 2020.3 installer with the continue running option it does pick up my add-ons.

So, I'll retract in that if you want the easiest way to create a "naked" copy of NVDA, I'd definitely either create a portable copy straight out of the installer or out of an installed version of NVDA but not checking the checkbox for Copy current user configuration.

It's far too easy to forget about this "automagic pickup" of existing installed bits, and if you're intentionally trying to avoid that, best to use the way that insures you are avoiding that, even if it takes a bit more time to set up.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.

         ~ John F. Kennedy

 


Re: NVD advansedA settings

Eduardo Fermiano Luccas
 

Thank you very much

Em seg., 1 de nov. de 2021 às 14:29, Jujube <ellaxyu@...> escreveu:

I think you can ignore the warning in most cases, for example, a lot of us office 365 users have to enable the UI automation options because it offers better performance. UIA will be the future of office 365 users, and the only reason it's not enabled by default yet is because it still has quite a few bugs.

On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 10:19 AM Eduardo Fermiano Luccas <25102008luccas@...> wrote:
I wanted to change the settings, but as the warning says, if I change without knowing what I'm doing, NVDA might stop working correctly

Em seg., 1 de nov. de 2021 às 14:13, Jujube <ellaxyu@...> escreveu:
I would just go into the advanced settings, accept the warning and see what happens. It really depends on what you want to change.

On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 10:02 AM Eduardo Fermiano Luccas <25102008luccas@...> wrote:
hi, i wanted to change advanced NVDA settings, but i wanted advice before doing this


Re: NVD advansedA settings

Jujube
 

I think you can ignore the warning in most cases, for example, a lot of us office 365 users have to enable the UI automation options because it offers better performance. UIA will be the future of office 365 users, and the only reason it's not enabled by default yet is because it still has quite a few bugs.


On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 10:19 AM Eduardo Fermiano Luccas <25102008luccas@...> wrote:
I wanted to change the settings, but as the warning says, if I change without knowing what I'm doing, NVDA might stop working correctly

Em seg., 1 de nov. de 2021 às 14:13, Jujube <ellaxyu@...> escreveu:
I would just go into the advanced settings, accept the warning and see what happens. It really depends on what you want to change.

On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 10:02 AM Eduardo Fermiano Luccas <25102008luccas@...> wrote:
hi, i wanted to change advanced NVDA settings, but i wanted advice before doing this

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