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Re: Announcing ObjPad add-on, a more intuitive way to navigate between screen elements

Fatma Mehanna
 

hi,
i have just used this addon and found a small notice:
sometimes i forget what mode i'm using, so i find nvda says strange
things not the strings i expect to be announced and i remember that
i'm in one of the addon modes :)
thanks.

On 9/26/16, Ângelo Abrantes <ampa4374@...> wrote:
I'm begining to work with the addon. I think that's a good idea.

If necessary, I can translate it into europian portuguese.

Ângelo Abrantes



Às 18:12 de 26-09-2016, Joseph Lee escreveu:

Hi everyone,

One of the strengths of NVDA is superb support for object navigation.
However, there were requests from people who wanted a more intuitive
way to do this, including using just the arrow keys to navigate
between objects, and since early this year, a way for NVDA to have
something similar to scan mode in Narrator (Windows 10 version 1607).
The wait is over: introducing ObjPad, an add-on that introduces more
intuitive object navigation facility and basic implementation of scan
mode feature, along with possibilities such as one key command to move
focus to the current navigator object and more planned for the future.

The add-on (for now, a development snapshot) can be found at:

http://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/objPad.en.html

Feedback is appreciated.

Cheers,

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Re: Issue with screen after copying plugins into system profile

Mallard
 

Sorry people,

It looks as if, after restarting NVDA, the problem stopped. I hope that's the case.


However, I notice that now I no longer have a "Secure desktop" notification, and therefore I'm not aware of the request to authorize an app to be installed, for instance.

Ciao,

Ollie

Il 26/09/2016 21:43, Mallard ha scritto:
Hello list,

I chose to use saved configuration settings in the Logon Window, and copied the necessary plugins into system profile.
Since I work with my monitor turned off, I didn't realised that this new configuration gives problems with the screen. Every so often, I hear the sound that Windows makes when a device is disconnected; the screen goes black, and after a couple of seconds I hear the sound again, and the screen comes on. That happens constantly, and I c an only think this may be caused by that change in configuration.

How can I go back to previous settings?

Which plugins are copied into the system profile, and where can i find such profile?

Sorry for these silly questions, but I've never done that before.

Thanks for your help.
Ciao,
Ollie

ps: I forgot to mention that I'm running the latest version of Windows, and the latest Next snapshot of NVDA.



Issue with screen after copying plugins into system profile

Mallard
 

Hello list,

I chose to use saved configuration settings in the Logon Window, and copied the necessary plugins into system profile.
Since I work with my monitor turned off, I didn't realised that this new configuration gives problems with the screen. Every so often, I hear the sound that Windows makes when a device is disconnected; the screen goes black, and after a couple of seconds I hear the sound again, and the screen comes on. That happens constantly, and I c an only think this may be caused by that change in configuration.

How can I go back to previous settings?

Which plugins are copied into the system profile, and where can i find such profile?

Sorry for these silly questions, but I've never done that before.

Thanks for your help.
Ciao,
Ollie

ps: I forgot to mention that I'm running the latest version of Windows, and the latest Next snapshot of NVDA.


Re: Announcing ObjPad add-on, a more intuitive way to navigate between screen elements

Ângelo Abrantes
 

I'm begining to work with the addon. I think that's a good idea.

If necessary, I can translate it into europian portuguese.

Ângelo Abrantes



Às 18:12 de 26-09-2016, Joseph Lee escreveu:

Hi everyone,

 

One of the strengths of NVDA is superb support for object navigation. However, there were requests from people who wanted a more intuitive way to do this, including using just the arrow keys to navigate between objects, and since early this year, a way for NVDA to have something similar to scan mode in Narrator (Windows 10 version 1607). The wait is over: introducing ObjPad, an add-on that introduces more intuitive object navigation facility and basic implementation of scan mode feature, along with possibilities such as one key command to move focus to the current navigator object and more planned for the future.

 

The add-on (for now, a development snapshot) can be found at:

http://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/objPad.en.html

 

Feedback is appreciated.

Cheers,

Joseph





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Announcing ObjPad add-on, a more intuitive way to navigate between screen elements

 

Hi everyone,

 

One of the strengths of NVDA is superb support for object navigation. However, there were requests from people who wanted a more intuitive way to do this, including using just the arrow keys to navigate between objects, and since early this year, a way for NVDA to have something similar to scan mode in Narrator (Windows 10 version 1607). The wait is over: introducing ObjPad, an add-on that introduces more intuitive object navigation facility and basic implementation of scan mode feature, along with possibilities such as one key command to move focus to the current navigator object and more planned for the future.

 

The add-on (for now, a development snapshot) can be found at:

http://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/objPad.en.html

 

Feedback is appreciated.

Cheers,

Joseph


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Walmir Schultz
 

Hi,

I use Thunderbird to read my e-mail.

Now Yahoo is warning about the need to change passwords.

How can I do it in the web site?

I navigated on the page for hours and did not find where to do it. The Yahoo accessibility help is useless....


Re: NVDA remote access.

Chris Mullins
 

Go to the NVDA menu Preferences/General, there is a button labelled 'Use
current settings on log-on and other secure screens' to copy them over. You
will require admin priviledges to perform this routine.

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Antony
Stone
Sent: 25 September 2016 23:59
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA remote access.

How does one "copy this set-up to the secure screen settings"?

Antony.

On Monday 26 September 2016 at 00:50:58, Chris Mullins wrote:

The way I understand it is that when your work computer drops into the
secure screen it drops your user NVDA settings and loads the secure
screen NVDA settings. So if you have the remote add-on with
auto-connect set for your user NVDA settings and copy this set-up to
the secure screen settings, your work computer will drop its remote
connection when the secure screen appears but immediately re-establish
it when the secure screen NVDA settings are loaded. Similarly, when
you log into your work computer, the remote connection will drop again
and reconnect when your user NVDA settings are loaded. Your local
computer shows as being connected but this only indicates that it is
connected to the host server, not your work computer.

Cheers

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Re: NVDA no speech in XP

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

Hmm, how long is a piece of string. Can you run a portable version with it and does that speak?
I'm just trying to find out if maybe its set in the .ini file to a synth you do not have and hence nothing works.
To be honest, xp seems more reliable in this context as if you have phones working via usb in other versions of windows, it quite possible to get some sounds through one sound crd and some via the phones, but xp only has the one choice, the current output. If you get system sounds and no speech its got to be that its either set to no speech or a synth which is not working any more. remember that old hacked versions of eloquence have been stopped from working as apart from being illegal they can cause crashes.
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From: "Maurice Bell" <itma-7@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 8:16 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA no speech in XP


Hello All,


I have had to resort to the MInite web site to install NVDA 2016.3 on my
XP computer.


The only problem is that I have no speech.


I have speech with Narrator.


So what could be the problem.


Regards, Maurice.




Re: NVDA and XP

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I cannot really detect any difference on xp from my point of view.
Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and XP


hi.
the best version i am shure is 2015.4 and i came back to that version yesterday!

On 9/25/16, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
I run a snapshot just about all the time. I do not have such a delay. I'm
saying that your results may be correct for your machine or machines but we
have no way of knowing whether your results refer to a large number of
machines or a small number.

Gene
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To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and XP


Well, its only on exit from nvda so maybe you have not noticed. You need to

rrun a snapshot to hear the sound.

As its exiting, a slight delay in doing so is probably not going to be an
issue.
Brian

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Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2016 9:02 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and XP


I have the Systray add on installed on two machines running XP and NVDA. It

produces no unanticipated or undesired effects. As I've said before, you
can't generalize from one person's experience on one or perhaps two machines

about the performance problems that may or may not be present in general.
You can only say that they are present in your experience as a single user
on your specific machine or machines.

Gene
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Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2016 2:53 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and XP


I've had no problems in xp but be aware some odd errors seem to occur with
some add ons in xp but they can be hard to pin down. for example systray
elements works, but causes anerror on exit from nvda.
Brian

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Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2016 7:43 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and XP


hello Bob,


I have installed the latest version, first as update and that was I lost
vertsion 12.1.


Will need to revisit this one, thanks for your reply.


Regards, Maurice.


On 24/09/2016 01:28, Bob J wrote:
I don't know anything about "NVDA 12.1" but the most recent release of
NVDA is version 2016.3 which works just fine on my WinXP machine.

Check the NVAccess web site for that one.

Bob



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From: "Maurice Bell" <itma-7@...>
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 5:21 AM
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and XP

Hello all,


I have a XP computer on which I had NVDA 12.1, which I lost recently.


I have a download package from which you install, but after
installation, it just opens and closes, no speech .


A. any idea's why it will not install correctly and where can I
download
another software application package, as could not find version 12.1 on
the NVDA site.


Thanks, Maurice.














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Re: Windows 7 query

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

Well tried all of those I can think of. Its a similar issue on windows 10 when I tested it last night. It will occasionally shove the message into some form of balloon or tooltip but notactually let you get to it so to speak.
Brian

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Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 7 query


The message may simply be flyout. Flyout is a term used to indicate some sort of problem or problems. I don't have the technical knowledge to describe it further. Try opening the item in all possible ways. That is, using the single left click, double left click, and right click options. See if it opens correctly with any of them.

My network connection in Windows 7 only opens correctly if I use the left single click option when in the systray dialog.

Gene
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Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 5:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Windows 7 query


Using latest nvda, and the user promoted section, otherwise known as the sys
tray has a message to review for a possible problem. when this is opened it
says action centre fly out. However none of the options normally on there as
far as nvda is concerned can provide access to the message itself.

On using nvda/B there are other messages on the screen but no way to access
them, and the screen will continuously repeat over and over until its
stopped which suggests to me that its not working correctly, as normally
nvda would in fact stop at the bottom.
Any ideas on how to see this elusive message which windows obviously wishes
to hide from me?


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Re: NVDA no speech in XP

Arno Schuh
 

Hi,

do you run several soundcards in your computer? Soundcards also mean i. e. USB headsets, Bluetooth dongles that provides audio, a second, third physicdal soundcard etc.?
So probably NVDA uses a quiet soundcard.
I only run NVDA in German language so I can't tell you the right terms of the menues. In the main settings, open the first one (settings?), and than the second menue (Speech?) and tab for the list of available sound output. With cursor up/down you can change the soundcard your voice speaks through.

Yours sincerely

Arno


Re: NVDA remote access.

Antony Stone
 

How does one "copy this set-up to the secure screen settings"?

Antony.

On Monday 26 September 2016 at 00:50:58, Chris Mullins wrote:

The way I understand it is that when your work computer drops into the
secure screen it drops your user NVDA settings and loads the secure
screen NVDA settings. So if you have the remote add-on with auto-connect
set for your user NVDA settings and copy this set-up to the secure screen
settings, your work computer will drop its remote connection when the
secure screen appears but immediately re-establish it when the secure
screen NVDA settings are loaded. Similarly, when you log into your work
computer, the remote connection will drop again and reconnect when your
user NVDA settings are loaded. Your local computer shows as being
connected but this only indicates that it is connected to the host server,
not your work computer.

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Re: NVDA remote access.

Chris Mullins
 

The way I understand it is that when your work computer drops into the secure screen it drops  your user NVDA settings and loads the secure screen NVDA settings.  So if you have the remote add-on with auto-connect set for your user NVDA settings and copy this set-up to the secure screen settings, your work computer will drop it’s remote connection when the secure screen appears but immediately re-establish it when the secure screen NVDA settings are loaded.  Similarly, when you log into your work computer, the remote connection will drop again and reconnect when your user NVDA settings are loaded.  Your local computer shows as being connected but this only indicates that it is connected to the host server, not your work computer.

Cheers

Chris

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Igor Kaplan
Sent: 25 September 2016 23:05
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA remote access.

 

Hi Chris,

 

I believe, I did, however will verify tomorrow. Thanks for the suggestion! The local NVDA works fine on the locked screen, only remote NVDA has problems.

 

All the best!

 

    Igor

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris Mullins
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 5:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA remote access.

 

On your work computer, did you copy your NVDA user profile after installing the remote access add-on using the ‘Use currently saved settings on log-on and other secure screens’ button on the preferences/general page of the NVDA menu?               

 

Cheers

Chris

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Igor Kaplan
Sent: 25 September 2016 19:25
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA remote access.

 

Hi all,

 

  My question is regarding the NVDA remote access.Last week I install the NVDA remote on my work computer to be able to access from home and it works fine with one exception.

  My work computer goes to the lock screen after some enactivity time and to continue I need to press ctrl+alt+del and enter my username and password.

  So, the remote access works very well while the work computer is unlocked, as soon as lock screen is kicks in, the remote speech stops, my local NVDA still shows as “connected”, however even choosing “press ctrl+alt+delete” from NVDA remote access menu does not do anything, I am not able to unlock my work PC remotely.

  Looks like, it is some kind of limitation of NVDA remote access. I wonder, if development is still going on? After more then a year, I still see the version is 1.2. And my second question, may be someone knows the work around, how I can dismiss this lock screen remotely?

  Forgot to mention, I am running windows 7 both, remotely and locally, if it makes any difference. I was also looking for some third_party solution, however did not find anything.

 

Will greatly appreciate, if someone could please help!

 

Many thanks.

 

  Igor.

 


Re: NVDA remote access.

Igor Kaplan
 

Hi Chris,

 

I believe, I did, however will verify tomorrow. Thanks for the suggestion! The local NVDA works fine on the locked screen, only remote NVDA has problems.

 

All the best!

 

    Igor

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris Mullins
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 5:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA remote access.

 

On your work computer, did you copy your NVDA user profile after installing the remote access add-on using the ‘Use currently saved settings on log-on and other secure screens’ button on the preferences/general page of the NVDA menu?               

 

Cheers

Chris

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Igor Kaplan
Sent: 25 September 2016 19:25
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA remote access.

 

Hi all,

 

  My question is regarding the NVDA remote access.Last week I install the NVDA remote on my work computer to be able to access from home and it works fine with one exception.

  My work computer goes to the lock screen after some enactivity time and to continue I need to press ctrl+alt+del and enter my username and password.

  So, the remote access works very well while the work computer is unlocked, as soon as lock screen is kicks in, the remote speech stops, my local NVDA still shows as “connected”, however even choosing “press ctrl+alt+delete” from NVDA remote access menu does not do anything, I am not able to unlock my work PC remotely.

  Looks like, it is some kind of limitation of NVDA remote access. I wonder, if development is still going on? After more then a year, I still see the version is 1.2. And my second question, may be someone knows the work around, how I can dismiss this lock screen remotely?

  Forgot to mention, I am running windows 7 both, remotely and locally, if it makes any difference. I was also looking for some third_party solution, however did not find anything.

 

Will greatly appreciate, if someone could please help!

 

Many thanks.

 

  Igor.

 


Re: NVDA remote access.

Chris Mullins
 

On your work computer, did you copy your NVDA user profile after installing the remote access add-on using the ‘Use currently saved settings on log-on and other secure screens’ button on the preferences/general page of the NVDA menu?               

 

Cheers

Chris

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Igor Kaplan
Sent: 25 September 2016 19:25
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA remote access.

 

Hi all,

 

  My question is regarding the NVDA remote access.Last week I install the NVDA remote on my work computer to be able to access from home and it works fine with one exception.

  My work computer goes to the lock screen after some enactivity time and to continue I need to press ctrl+alt+del and enter my username and password.

  So, the remote access works very well while the work computer is unlocked, as soon as lock screen is kicks in, the remote speech stops, my local NVDA still shows as “connected”, however even choosing “press ctrl+alt+delete” from NVDA remote access menu does not do anything, I am not able to unlock my work PC remotely.

  Looks like, it is some kind of limitation of NVDA remote access. I wonder, if development is still going on? After more then a year, I still see the version is 1.2. And my second question, may be someone knows the work around, how I can dismiss this lock screen remotely?

  Forgot to mention, I am running windows 7 both, remotely and locally, if it makes any difference. I was also looking for some third_party solution, however did not find anything.

 

Will greatly appreciate, if someone could please help!

 

Many thanks.

 

  Igor.

 


Re: NVDA remote access.

Ethan
 

Hello,

In NVDA tools > remote There should be the option "send alt+control+delete".

Hope this helps,

Ethan

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On Sep 25, 2016, at 2:25 PM, Igor Kaplan <igorkaplan45@...> wrote:

Hi all,

 

  My question is regarding the NVDA remote access.Last week I install the NVDA remote on my work computer to be able to access from home and it works fine with one exception.

  My work computer goes to the lock screen after some enactivity time and to continue I need to press ctrl+alt+del and enter my username and password.

  So, the remote access works very well while the work computer is unlocked, as soon as lock screen is kicks in, the remote speech stops, my local NVDA still shows as “connected”, however even choosing “press ctrl+alt+delete” from NVDA remote access menu does not do anything, I am not able to unlock my work PC remotely.

  Looks like, it is some kind of limitation of NVDA remote access. I wonder, if development is still going on? After more then a year, I still see the version is 1.2. And my second question, may be someone knows the work around, how I can dismiss this lock screen remotely?

  Forgot to mention, I am running windows 7 both, remotely and locally, if it makes any difference. I was also looking for some third_party solution, however did not find anything.

 

Will greatly appreciate, if someone could please help!

 

Many thanks.

 

  Igor.

 


Re: NVDA no speech in XP

Kenny Dog <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi Maurice.


So NVDA is installed to the computer? When it is running does the nvda
icon appear down near the clock? if you check it with narrator?


If nvda is running you could also check the synth settings to see if the
synth is set to none. Use the nvda key +ctrl key + the letter S.

The default synth is the E speak one so when the dialogue come up if it
is set to no speech use the letter E to get you up to the E speak synth
then tab 2 times until you get to the ok button. Hopefully it will come
back that way.


it might be that you have turned off speech in nvda. If this is the case
or something has reverted it to no speech, you could try the following.


You could use the nvda key + the letter S to toggle between no speech to
talk. You will hear no speech, beep then talk.


You might of put nvda to sleep if this is the case to wake him up use
the nvda + shift key + the letter S.


This will take him if he is in sleep mode to sleep mode off.

On 26/09/2016 8:16 AM, Maurice Bell wrote:
Hello All,


I have had to resort to the MInite web site to install NVDA 2016.3 on my
XP computer.


The only problem is that I have no speech.


I have speech with Narrator.


So what could be the problem.


Regards, Maurice.



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Re: NVDA no speech in XP

Matt Turner
 

Hmm, do you get the sound when NVDA starts up?

Try pressing insert+control+r three times.

This will reset NVDA to its defaults.

On 9/25/2016 3:16 PM, Maurice Bell wrote:
Hello All,


I have had to resort to the MInite web site to install NVDA 2016.3 on my
XP computer.


The only problem is that I have no speech.


I have speech with Narrator.


So what could be the problem.


Regards, Maurice.



NVDA no speech in XP

Maurice Bell <itma-7@...>
 

Hello All,


I have had to resort to the MInite web site to install NVDA 2016.3 on my
XP computer.


The only problem is that I have no speech.


I have speech with Narrator.


So what could be the problem.


Regards, Maurice.


Re: NVDA remote access.

Igor Kaplan
 

Hi all,

 

  My question is regarding the NVDA remote access.Last week I install the NVDA remote on my work computer to be able to access from home and it works fine with one exception.

  My work computer goes to the lock screen after some enactivity time and to continue I need to press ctrl+alt+del and enter my username and password.

  So, the remote access works very well while the work computer is unlocked, as soon as lock screen is kicks in, the remote speech stops, my local NVDA still shows as “connected”, however even choosing “press ctrl+alt+delete” from NVDA remote access menu does not do anything, I am not able to unlock my work PC remotely.

  Looks like, it is some kind of limitation of NVDA remote access. I wonder, if development is still going on? After more then a year, I still see the version is 1.2. And my second question, may be someone knows the work around, how I can dismiss this lock screen remotely?

  Forgot to mention, I am running windows 7 both, remotely and locally, if it makes any difference. I was also looking for some third_party solution, however did not find anything.

 

Will greatly appreciate, if someone could please help!

 

Many thanks.

 

  Igor.