Re: NVDA and Thunderbird
Gene
If the information isn’t coming from forced reading of the status bar, I
don’t know where it is coming from. If I understand what you are
describing, you have a message rule and the speech is coming when the rule is
applied when new mail comes in. But if that is the case, you should hear
it whether a message is opened or not.
Gene
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The status bar is already unchecked. It seems to happen only when I have opened a message and trying to read it.
Danny On 11/4/2021 12:33 PM, Gene wrote:
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Re: Owner's Note: Happy Diwali
#adminnotice
udit pandey
so next time pack your bags and come to India and be the part of this celebration with us!
On Fri, 5 Nov 2021 at 22:16, Eduardo Fermiano Luccas <25102008luccas@...> wrote:
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hope that you all are safe with your family, udit follow me on instagram: udit@pandey123 mail me on gmail at udit52805@... or outlook me at uditpandey6474@outlook we should not never speak bad, we should never see bad, and we should never lisson bad
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Re: Owner's Note: Happy Diwali
#adminnotice
Eduardo Fermiano Luccas
i'm from brazil so i don't know anything, but have a great day Em sex., 5 de nov. de 2021 às 13:25, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> escreveu:
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Re: NVDA and Thunderbird
Danny Park
Just found an interesting thing. When you are reading a message it has a different set of settings. When I was in a list of messages and did the alt-v the status bar was turned off, however, when in the message itself and I did the alt-v the status bar was turned on and changing that one helped.
Danny
On 11/4/2021 12:33 PM, Gene wrote:
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Re: Owner's Note: Happy Diwali
#adminnotice
Rosemarie Chavarria
Hi,
Thanks very much for the explanation. I’m from California in the United States. I don’t celebrate this holiday but I respect those who do. Have a wonderful day.
Rosemarie
Sent from Mail for Windows
From: udit pandey
Sent: Friday, November 5, 2021 12:35 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Owner's Note: Happy Diwali #adminnotice
hi Rosemarie, I and my family wishes you a very happy diwali and respected Rosemarie mam, diwali is the festival of lights it is celebrated in India in all the parts of India we where new clothes clean and decorate our houses with various types of lights and other decorative material we worship lord ganesha and goddess lakshmi and we light deeas on diwali and also, on diwali, lord rama came back from 14 years of exile to ayodya and again very happy and prosperous diwali!
On Fri, 5 Nov 2021 at 09:45, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:
-- hope that you all are safe with your family, udit follow me on instagram: udit@pandey123 mail me on gmail at udit52805@... or outlook me at uditpandey6474@outlook we should not never speak bad, we should never see bad, and we should never lisson bad
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Re: clip speak
dennis huckle <denniswhuckle@...>
Hello all, Don’t worry folks, Found another add on which confirms whether I want to copy to clipboard. Thanks. Kind regards, Dennis huckle.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
On Behalf Of dennis huckle
Sent: 05 November 2021 14:08 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] clip speak
Sorry, Just sent this to the wrong group by mistake. I am using the latest version of nvda. I have tried clipspeak from get add ons. This doesn’t work. Where can I get the latest version. Is there another add on that will advise me when a file is copied or pasted from the clipboard. Kind regards, Dennis huckle.
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Re: NVDA and Thunderbird
Danny Park
The status bar is already unchecked. It seems to happen only when I have opened a message and trying to read it.
Danny
On 11/4/2021 12:33 PM, Gene wrote:
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Re: NVDA + Windows Live Mail
Steve Nutt
Hi,
There are differences on the web though, for example, move by Radio Button in JAWS, is A, not R.
But essentially the commands are the same.
All the best
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 05 November 2021 15:45 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA + Windows Live Mail
I am replying to this thread here and not on the chat list because my answer deals almost entirely with NVDA. I hope it is helpful. I am not assuming what you know but since I don’t know, I am providing what may be important information.
If your father mostly works with program commands and not things like the JAWS cursor, there will be little difference in what he does. You can do a lot when you switch screen-readers because a lot of what people use are Windows and program commands.
Read the title bar, NVDA key t. Adjust speech settings, NVDA key control v. Select synthesizer, if you want to use a different available one, NVDDA insert v. Read to end, NVDA key down arrow. Not the numpad 2, which you can use in JAWS, but down arrow on the main keyboard.
Your father should find using Windows Live Mail, aside perhaps from using this or that NVDA command such as read to end, almost identical whether JAWS or NVDA is used. For browsing the Internet, NVDA uses almost identical navigation commands, move by heading h, skip blocks of links, n move by button. b move by radio button, r to name a number of commands.
Your father will probably want to learn at least a little mlore about NVDA to adjust things like verbosity, but what I’ve written may be helpful.
Gene -----Original Message-----
From: James Johnson Sent: Friday, November 05, 2021 9:00 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA + Windows Live Mail
Thank you both for your help with this. I'll try the keystrokes with my father and see how we fair. He has just moved off of one screen reader to another so is familiarising himself with NVDA. Introducing Thunderbird might be step too much at the current moment, but I do hear your thoughts on staying in touch with compatible software and systems. Apologies for posting in the wrong group - will ensure I post the sub group with any further questions.
James
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Re: NVDA + Windows Live Mail
Gene
I am replying to this thread here and not on the chat list because my
answer deals almost entirely with NVDA. I hope it is helpful. I am
not assuming what you know but since I don’t know, I am providing what may be
important information.
If your father mostly works with program commands and not things like the
JAWS cursor, there will be little difference in what he does. You can do a
lot when you switch screen-readers because a lot of what people use are Windows
and program commands.
There are a small number of commands that are important at the outset that are NVDA commands. Read the title bar, NVDA key t.
Adjust speech settings, NVDA key control v.
Select synthesizer, if you want to use a different available one, NVDDA
insert v.
Read to end, NVDA key down arrow. Not the numpad 2, which you can use
in JAWS, but down arrow on the main keyboard.
Your father should find using Windows Live Mail, aside perhaps from using
this or that NVDA command such as read to end, almost identical whether JAWS or
NVDA is used. For browsing the Internet, NVDA uses almost identical
navigation commands, move by heading h, skip blocks of links, n move by button.
b move by radio button, r to name a number of commands.
Your father will probably want to learn at least a little mlore about NVDA
to adjust things like verbosity, but what I’ve written may be helpful.
Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: James Johnson
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2021 9:00 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA + Windows Live Mail Thank you both for your help with this. I'll try the keystrokes
with my father and see how we fair. He has just moved off of one screen reader
to another so is familiarising himself with NVDA. Introducing Thunderbird might
be step too much at the current moment, but I do hear your thoughts on staying
in touch with compatible software and systems. Apologies for posting in the
wrong group - will ensure I post the sub group with any further questions.
With thanks, James
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Re: Nvda and help in Total Commander
Eduardo Fermiano Luccas
try to find an internet page that talks about the help of this application Em sex., 5 de nov. de 2021 às 11:58, Jarek.Krcmar <Jarek.Krcmar@...> escreveu:
Hi group,
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Nvda and help in Total Commander
Jarek.Krcmar
Hi group,
I would like to read the help in Total Commander, but it is unable. When I press enter key, or tab, nothing is happen. Do you have any idea, please? -- Jarek
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clip speak
dennis huckle <denniswhuckle@...>
Sorry, Just sent this to the wrong group by mistake. I am using the latest version of nvda. I have tried clipspeak from get add ons. This doesn’t work. Where can I get the latest version. Is there another add on that will advise me when a file is copied or pasted from the clipboard. Kind regards, Dennis huckle.
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Re: NVDA + Windows Live Mail
James Johnson
Thank you both for your help with this. I'll try the keystrokes with my father and see how we fair. He has just moved off of one screen reader to another so is familiarising himself with NVDA. Introducing Thunderbird might be step too much at the current moment, but I do hear your thoughts on staying in touch with compatible software and systems. Apologies for posting in the wrong group - will ensure I post the sub group with any further questions. With thanks, James
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Re: WeatherPlus add-on
Chris Mullins
Hi Rui I originally updated to WeatherPlus 8.6 via “Check for add-on updates and after your response re the Help link, I downloaded it from nvda-addons.org site and re-ran the install but the Help link is still missing.
Cheers Chris
Sent from Mail for Windows
From: Rui Fontes
Sent: 04 November 2021 18:07 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] WeatherPlus add-on
Hello!
Regarding the download link still pointing to version 8.4 is my fault... No time to dedicate to this add-on, but next week it will point to the right version...
Regarding the absence of help, I do not understand why, since in my NVDA it is still present..
Best regards, Às 16:08 de 04/11/2021, Chris Mullins escreveu:
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Re: Performance/battery life using NVDA in Windows 10/11 arm in Parallels 17 VM on Mac OSX on an M1/Pro/Max Mac?
Greg Wocher
Hello,
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There is a YouTube channel called techopolis where they did a demonstration of installing Windows 11 arm version using parallel. In this demo they also installed NVDA on it. It seemed to be responsive and work fairly well If you search for the techopolis channel on YouTube you should be able to find the video. Greg Wocher
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Re: NVDA 2021.3 Beta 2 now available
Gary Metzler
Hi Quentin,
Beta 2 is working just fine.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Thursday, November 4, 2021 6:50 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2021.3 Beta 2 now available
HI everyone,
NVDA 2021.3 Beta 2 is now available for testing! https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2021-3beta2/
Changes from Beta 1 include: - Restored compatibility for Add-ons using isInMessageBox, - Braille displays now update when typing text if using MS Word with UIA - updated User Guide - updated translations.
-- Quentin Christensen
Web: www.nvaccess.org Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/ User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
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Re: Owner's Note: Happy Diwali
#adminnotice
udit pandey
hi Rosemarie, I and my family wishes you a very happy diwali and respected Rosemarie mam, diwali is the festival of lights it is celebrated in India in all the parts of India we where new clothes clean and decorate our houses with various types of lights and other decorative material we worship lord ganesha and goddess lakshmi and we light deeas on diwali and also, on diwali, lord rama came back from 14 years of exile to ayodya and again very happy and prosperous diwali!
On Fri, 5 Nov 2021 at 09:45, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:
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hope that you all are safe with your family, udit follow me on instagram: udit@pandey123 mail me on gmail at udit52805@... or outlook me at uditpandey6474@outlook we should not never speak bad, we should never see bad, and we should never lisson bad
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Re: Owner's Note: Happy Diwali
#adminnotice
Rosemarie Chavarria
Hi, everyone,
I haven’t heard of this holiday but happy Diwali to those who celebrate it from me too.
Sent from Mail for Windows
From: Nimer Jaber
Sent: Thursday, November 4, 2021 8:35 PM To: NVDA@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Owner's Note: Happy Diwali #adminnotice
Hello everyone,
To learn more about Diwali, please check out https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/15451833
-- Best, Registered Linux User 529141. Thank you, and have a great day!
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Owner's Note: Happy Diwali
#adminnotice
Nimer Jaber
Hello everyone, I want to wish all who celebrate a very, very happy Diwali. Here's hoping you and your family are all well, and that your holiday is filled with lots of good cheer. To learn more about Diwali, please check out https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/15451833 Best, Nimer Jaber Registered Linux User 529141. http://counter.li.org/ To find out about a free, open-source, and versatile screen reader for Windows, visit nvaccess.org You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news. Thank you, and have a great day!
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Performance/battery life using NVDA in Windows 10/11 arm in Parallels 17 VM on Mac OSX on an M1/Pro/Max Mac?
Mat Mirabella <mat@...>
Hi all,
As the subject line indicates, for those who have tried this, I was wondering what the impact on performance and also battery life is when using NVDA in this scenario. In particular, when using NVDA/Windows in the VM most of the time. I have seen previous discussions about getting this to work, but not much discussion on performance and impact on the system when using it.
I understand that the new M1/Pro/Max systems are arm based, and to use Windows 10/11 on them, the only effective way is to install the arm version of Windows 10/11 pro as a VM in Parallels (now version 17.1) under Mac-OSX. I understand the performance of Windows is ok, but that because software like NVDA is an x86 application, there is a reliance on Microsoft’s emulation to allow x86/x64 software to run when using the arm version of Windows. This is likely to impact more than just NVDA, but as NVDA has to be always running and is being used all the time, the impact may be greater in terms of the experience than with other applications that can be used once and then closed when not in use.
I realise that one of the hurdles for getting a good experience is sorting out the keyboard layout and key mappings. However, assuming this is sorted out, what I wondered was what the performance of using NVDA is like. i.e. is scrolling around the desktop and windows explorer fast or does it lag a bit? what happens in large word documents, web pages in Chrome or PDFs? I am also curious as to whether the very long battery life that people appear to be getting with these M1 macs is shorter in the above NVDA usage scenarios because of all the emulation going on, and if so, by how much. I was also wondering how coherence mode in Parallels works if you are using a screen reader like NVDA on the Windows side and VO on the Mac OSX side.
Thanks for any insights.
Kind regards.
Mat.
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