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Re: Slow response in Microsoft Word

Sky Mundell
 

Hello. What version of Word are you using?

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sharni-Lee Ward
Sent: Sunday, November 7, 2021 8:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Slow response in Microsoft Word

I just started using Microsoft Word again for the first time in several years. I noticed that navigating around the document and the various tabs in the ribbon was slower than I would like. I don't know what's causing this, or whether it's a Word thing or an NVDA thing, so I thought I'd ask here.


Slow response in Microsoft Word

Sharni-Lee Ward
 

I just started using Microsoft Word again for the first time in several years. I noticed that navigating around the document and the various tabs in the ribbon was slower than I would like. I don't know what's causing this, or whether it's a Word thing or an NVDA thing, so I thought I'd ask here.


weather plus addon

Don H
 

It appears that the sunrise and sunset times have not been adjusted with the end of daylight savings time here in the US.


Re: Bluetooth Headphones Losing Connection when Speech Stops

Chris Smart
 

Awesome. Thanks for both of those.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: November 7, 2021 11:12 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Bluetooth Headphones Losing Connection when Speech Stops

 

Chris,

The simple answer to your direct question:  No.

The practical answer is there are two alternatives, one or both of which may work for you:
1. The Bluetooth Audio Add-On for NVDA
2. The Silenzio program, which is a tiny program that runs continuously in the background that feeds silence to the audio output, keeping Bluetooth from ever going to sleep.  (See this article by Jonathan Mosen, entitled, Sounds frustrating! There’s an audio problem affecting users of any screen reader on some Windows computers, and it needs to be fixed, for additional details).
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The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.

         ~ John F. Kennedy

 


Re: Bluetooth Headphones Losing Connection when Speech Stops

 

Chris,

The simple answer to your direct question:  No.

The practical answer is there are two alternatives, one or both of which may work for you:
1. The Bluetooth Audio Add-On for NVDA
2. The Silenzio program, which is a tiny program that runs continuously in the background that feeds silence to the audio output, keeping Bluetooth from ever going to sleep.  (See this article by Jonathan Mosen, entitled, Sounds frustrating! There’s an audio problem affecting users of any screen reader on some Windows computers, and it needs to be fixed, for additional details).
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.

         ~ John F. Kennedy

 


Re: Self-Produced AudioBook with NVDA

Giles Turnbull
 

In theory it is ... sort of! The main concern is the sound of the TTS engine which, as others have mentioned, might not be very pleasant to somebody not used to listening to screen readers. when my poetry pamphlet won a competition and was published in 2017, it was important to me to have an audiobook version in case any visually-impaired people attending my readings and launch events wanted to buy a copy.; I did a reading at Cardiff Institute for the Blind (now Sight Life) in addition to literature festivals in Abergavenny and Torquay, and several launch events around Wales.

I can now memorise between 30 and 45 minutes of my own poems, but at the time of publication I could only manage about 10 minutes. I tried using Orcam glasses to read from the pamphlet or printout, but the result was too variable to risk using it in front of an audience. I decided to use NVDA on a tablet with three small external Cube speakers which provided plenty of volume to fill an area large enough to hold 30-or-so people ... my first event was at Waterloo Tea, a cafe in the wyndham Arcade in Cardiff. I think I did half a dozen poems from memory and used NVDA to do six or seven more.

As others have mentioned, the screen reading software needs a bit of a helping hand. I edited text files of the poems so that NVDA paused where a human reader would pause, even if it made no grammatical sense to have a comma at that place. I use the Microsoft SAPI5 voice Hazel for public audiences, because it sounds very human compared to any other TTS voice I've heard .. I have a little piece that Hazel reads before her last poem, and she always gets applause from the audience :)

On the morning of my first launch event, I was pondering how to get Hazel to say the phrase "power suits" in a less plummy voice though. The problem was that Hazel pronounces suits see-oots. I tried several variations ... the soo sound could be spelled Sue or Soo, but there is no ts sound in English and joining ts to soo produces soots, and attaching it to Sue produces suets (suet ebing the fat surrounding the kidney!) ... I even tried Sioux but again still the same problem because joining ts to Sioux sounds like the original see-oots. Two hours before I set off for the event, I wondered whether changing the consonant from a t might work ... and indeed, writiing suits as Siouxds worked (with the Hazel voice) almost indistinguishable to suits :)

When I produced my audiobook version I paid £100 for half a day of studio time with a an engineer. He micéd me for the poems I did from memory (by this time I culd do 10 poems in the pamphlet from memory) and then he micéd my tablet for Hazel to do the remaining 10. Was it worth doing the audiobook? Financially speaking, no! I have sold two copies of it so far (I sold them at events on USB thumb drives for the same £5 fee for the audiobook ... bearing in mind I buy my copies at 50 percent) so I'm currently about £95 down on my investment in the audiobook ... but it's worth it for me to have done that for the visually-impaired readers :)


Bluetooth Headphones Losing Connection when Speech Stops

Chris Smart
 

Does NVDA have an option similar to the one in Jaws which keeps the Bluetooth connection open during breaks in the audio stream?

In Jaws, this is called “Avoid Speech Cut Off When Using Bluetooth Headphones Or Some Sound Cards”.

 

Thanks

Chris

 


Re: Nvda and help in Total Commander

Jarek.Krcmar
 

Hi,

thanks for your instruction. It's fajn.

Jarek

Dne 06.11.2021 v 14:51 darkmad88@... napsal(a):

AFAIK, Tc's help is in CHM format. If so, you can use F6 key to switch between panes of help window. Let's try it after you select a desired topic in navigation pane. GL!
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Jarek


Re: Self-Produced AudioBook with NVDA

Sarah k Alawami
 

Yeah agreed. I would get a human narrator is at all possible if you cannot, or don’t feel comfortable reading your stuff.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, November 6, 2021 10:25 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Self-Produced AudioBook with NVDA

 

On Sat, Nov 6, 2021 at 12:52 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

I would not do this, it will sound horable.

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About which we agree.  Those who use screen readers daily should know, very well, the pitfalls with regard to speech synthesizers and the sometimes odd choices they make.

It would likely matter less if we're talking about, say, a textbook, though it would still matter, but if the content is prose you want someone to read it who gets the entire gist of what's going on in said prose.
 
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.

         ~ John F. Kennedy

 


Re: Self-Produced AudioBook with NVDA

Sarah k Alawami
 

Actually I voiced a book someone needed once. I could do a chapter in about 30 minutes but the script I had auto converted which was fine. These chapters were about 50 pages in length btw.

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Laz
Sent: Saturday, November 6, 2021 9:35 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Self-Produced AudioBook with NVDA

No, for several reasons some of which I've listed below:

1. It would have to be done in real time tying up your PC for that period of time.
2. If this is something you're going to sell, the question as to the possible legality of using the TTS voices comes to play.

If this were something non-commercial and you're doing for yourself or for a friend, then I recommend the use of Balabolka instead. It's much faster than doing it in real time.

If this is for self publishing, you need to read the license of whatever TTS voice you want to use for this as to what it says about commercial use.

Stay well,

Laz

On 11/6/21, David Russell <david.sonofhashem@...> wrote:
Hello Group,
Is it feasible to use the NVDA screen reader to record/produce an
audio book?
If so, where can one find a detailed tutorial to guide the process
from recording to self publishing?

Thanks in advance.
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David C. Russell, Author






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Phone: 727-498-0121
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Re: Self-Produced AudioBook with NVDA

 

On Sat, Nov 6, 2021 at 12:52 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
I would not do this, it will sound horable.
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About which we agree.  Those who use screen readers daily should know, very well, the pitfalls with regard to speech synthesizers and the sometimes odd choices they make.

It would likely matter less if we're talking about, say, a textbook, though it would still matter, but if the content is prose you want someone to read it who gets the entire gist of what's going on in said prose.
 
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.

         ~ John F. Kennedy

 


Re: Self-Produced AudioBook with NVDA

Sarah k Alawami
 

I know what he wants to do. I would not do this, it will sound horable. I do have scripts and command line knowledge to maybe allow me to to do what you want to do. Contact me off list if you want to know more.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, November 6, 2021 9:12 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Self-Produced AudioBook with NVDA

 

I don’t understand the question.  Are you talking about recording an audio file in a recording program and editing it or are you asking about something more? 

 

Gene

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Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2021 10:58 AM

Subject: [nvda] Self-Produced AudioBook with NVDA

 

Hello Group,
Is it feasible to use the NVDA screen reader to record/produce an audio book?
If so, where can one find a detailed tutorial to guide the process
from recording to self publishing?

Thanks in advance.
--
David C. Russell, Author




Re: Self-Produced AudioBook with NVDA

Laz
 

No, for several reasons some of which I've listed below:

1. It would have to be done in real time tying up your PC for that
period of time.
2. If this is something you're going to sell, the question as to the
possible legality of using the TTS voices comes to play.

If this were something non-commercial and you're doing for yourself or
for a friend, then I recommend the use of Balabolka instead. It's much
faster than doing it in real time.

If this is for self publishing, you need to read the license of
whatever TTS voice you want to use for this as to what it says about
commercial use.

Stay well,

Laz

On 11/6/21, David Russell <david.sonofhashem@...> wrote:
Hello Group,
Is it feasible to use the NVDA screen reader to record/produce an audio
book?
If so, where can one find a detailed tutorial to guide the process
from recording to self publishing?

Thanks in advance.
--
David C. Russell, Author





--
Affordably priced Accessible Talking MP3 Player/book Reader, Victor
Reader Stream & Trek, blindshell Classic phone, Bluetooth devices, and
accessories
http://www.talkingmp3players.com/
Email: laz@...
Phone: 727-498-0121
Personal Facebook: https://m.facebook.com/laz.mesa
Facebook: https://m.facebook.com/Talkingmp3players?_rdr


Re: Self-Produced AudioBook with NVDA

Gene
 

I don’t understand the question.  Are you talking about recording an audio file in a recording program and editing it or are you asking about something more? 
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2021 10:58 AM
Subject: [nvda] Self-Produced AudioBook with NVDA
 
Hello Group,
Is it feasible to use the NVDA screen reader to record/produce an audio book?
If so, where can one find a detailed tutorial to guide the process
from recording to self publishing?

Thanks in advance.
--
David C. Russell, Author





Re: Performance/battery life using NVDA in Windows 10/11 arm in Parallels 17 VM on Mac OSX on an M1/Pro/Max Mac?

 

I'm not watching, but might it be this video?  Apple September Event Recap, Windows 11 , And More: Techopolis Live Episode 10
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.

         ~ John F. Kennedy

 


Re: Failing to read document with Adobe Acrobat DC and NVDA

Sarah k Alawami
 

People  should not care what you open it in. I had mine open the whole document, and it stil failed to read. All I saw  was a link which was not the text. The browsers work fine.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of cisco
Sent: Saturday, November 6, 2021 8:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Failing to read document with Adobe Acrobat DC and NVDA

 

Hello there,

 

I have Adobe Reader set to recognize only a certain rage of pages.

Funny thing is, that this hole thing works with JAWS, which I uninstalled because I got pissed at it for the 40 demo mode, again, but it doesn’t work with nvda, I wonder why.

As for opening pdfs in browsers, it’s a good idea I agree, but people would prefer if I did it in adobe Reader, so any help would be appreciated.

Best regards.

Francisco.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, November 6, 2021 12:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Failing to read document with Adobe Acrobat DC and NVDA

 

How long have you waited for the document to be recognized?  Have you set Adobe to recognize the whole document or only a certain range of pages, and then recognize more when you move beyond them? 

 

With newer more powerful computers, I don’t know if this is much of an issue, but it used to take Adobe awhile to recognize large documents if you have it set to recognize the whole document. 

 

Using a browser like Edge recognizes documents much faster and I’ve seen a few people saying it produces better results.  Browsers in general these days, at least the popular Windows oness, recognize PDF documents.  I’ve heard this or that person say Edge is better than others.  I haven’t compared.  But you may wish to try having a browser recognize the document. 

 

Gene

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From: cisco

Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2021 5:16 AM

Subject: [nvda] Failing to read document with Adobe Acrobat DC and NVDA

 

Hello everyone,

 

I installed Adobe Acrobat reader DC and I went through the setup assistant and I set all the options I needed to set for a screen reader to be able to read a document properly.

However, when I open a document that I know is not an image, NVDA reads absolutely nothing in it even though Adobe Acrobat Reader DC displays it. I tried changing the reading order from left to right, top to bottom to infer from document and back, but it didn’t help at all.

What would you recommend?

Best regards.

Francisco.

P.S. The PDF document is a 521 pages school textbook.

Thanks for everything.


Re: Failing to read document with Adobe Acrobat DC and NVDA

Sarah k Alawami
 

I just managed to reproduce this today. I thought it was just I that had the issue, but I guess not. I’m using the 32 bit version.

 

Windows 10 21H1 (x64) build 19043.1288

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of cisco
Sent: Saturday, November 6, 2021 3:16 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Failing to read document with Adobe Acrobat DC and NVDA

 

Hello everyone,

 

I installed Adobe Acrobat reader DC and I went through the setup assistant and I set all the options I needed to set for a screen reader to be able to read a document properly.

However, when I open a document that I know is not an image, NVDA reads absolutely nothing in it even though Adobe Acrobat Reader DC displays it. I tried changing the reading order from left to right, top to bottom to infer from document and back, but it didn’t help at all.

What would you recommend?

Best regards.

Francisco.

P.S. The PDF document is a 521 pages school textbook.

Thanks for everything.


Re: Performance/battery life using NVDA in Windows 10/11 arm in Parallels 17 VM on Mac OSX on an M1/Pro/Max Mac?

 

On Sat, Nov 6, 2021 at 08:05 AM, mattias wrote:
This channel seems to be gone
-
No, it's not.  YouTube - Techopolis Channel
 
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.

         ~ John F. Kennedy

 


Self-Produced AudioBook with NVDA

David Russell
 

Hello Group,
Is it feasible to use the NVDA screen reader to record/produce an audio book?
If so, where can one find a detailed tutorial to guide the process
from recording to self publishing?

Thanks in advance.
--
David C. Russell, Author


Re: Failing to read document with Adobe Acrobat DC and NVDA

enes sarıbaş
 

Hi,

Unfortunately this is due to NVDA not working with Adobe Reader 64 bit.  Adobe has started installing the 64 bit version by default.

On 11/6/2021 6:21 PM, cisco wrote:

Hello there,

 

I have Adobe Reader set to recognize only a certain rage of pages.

Funny thing is, that this hole thing works with JAWS, which I uninstalled because I got pissed at it for the 40 demo mode, again, but it doesn’t work with nvda, I wonder why.

As for opening pdfs in browsers, it’s a good idea I agree, but people would prefer if I did it in adobe Reader, so any help would be appreciated.

Best regards.

Francisco.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, November 6, 2021 12:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Failing to read document with Adobe Acrobat DC and NVDA

 

How long have you waited for the document to be recognized?  Have you set Adobe to recognize the whole document or only a certain range of pages, and then recognize more when you move beyond them? 

 

With newer more powerful computers, I don’t know if this is much of an issue, but it used to take Adobe awhile to recognize large documents if you have it set to recognize the whole document. 

 

Using a browser like Edge recognizes documents much faster and I’ve seen a few people saying it produces better results.  Browsers in general these days, at least the popular Windows oness, recognize PDF documents.  I’ve heard this or that person say Edge is better than others.  I haven’t compared.  But you may wish to try having a browser recognize the document. 

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: cisco

Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2021 5:16 AM

Subject: [nvda] Failing to read document with Adobe Acrobat DC and NVDA

 

Hello everyone,

 

I installed Adobe Acrobat reader DC and I went through the setup assistant and I set all the options I needed to set for a screen reader to be able to read a document properly.

However, when I open a document that I know is not an image, NVDA reads absolutely nothing in it even though Adobe Acrobat Reader DC displays it. I tried changing the reading order from left to right, top to bottom to infer from document and back, but it didn’t help at all.

What would you recommend?

Best regards.

Francisco.

P.S. The PDF document is a 521 pages school textbook.

Thanks for everything.

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