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Re: A weird problem with OCR on latest version of nvda

Margus Ojaots
 

No. when i press that key combination, nothing happens.

2021-11-03 2:34 GMT +02:00, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...>:

Did it give an error message?

When you press NVDA+r, what normally happens is NVDA reports
"Recognising...", then shortly after "Result document". No window is
displayed visually, but as you navigate at this point, NVDA will read the
text it has recognised. Press escape to close this and return to the
program.

Quentin.

On Wed, Nov 3, 2021 at 2:10 AM Eduardo Fermiano Luccas <
25102008luccas@...> wrote:

which program is giving the error?

Em ter., 2 de nov. de 2021 às 11:11, Margus Ojaots <
margus.ojaots@...> escreveu:

Yes I am

2021-11-02 14:24 GMT +02:00, Eduardo Fermiano Luccas <
25102008luccas@...>:
are you using windows 10?

Em ter., 2 de nov. de 2021 às 08:21, Margus Ojaots
<margus.ojaots@...>
escreveu:

Hello. So i tried to use OCR for an app, when i pressed caps lock
+r,
it didn't open the OCR window ven though screen curtain was turned
off. What could be the problem?













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locked Re: Japanese TTS engine

Josh Kennedy
 

yes, you can get it in windows10 by going into settings, ease of access, narrator, get more voices, add voice, then choose the Japanese voices pack. 


Re: Failing to read document with Adobe Acrobat DC and NVDA

cisco
 

Hello there Quentin ad all,

 

I am using English as my interface language, however I’m trying to read an Italian PDF.

Best regards.

Francisco.

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2021 1:03 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Failing to read document with Adobe Acrobat DC and NVDA

 

There is one comment on that issue Enes shared indicating that it works in English, but does not work in other languages, or at least Turkish.  For those experiencing Adobe Reader NOT working, what language are you using?  (I am using English, which might fit with that hypothesis as althoguh it throws a bunch of errors in the log, it does open and read the file).

 

Quentin.

 

On Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 7:34 AM cisco <audiogamer2004@...> wrote:

Hello Quentin and all,

 

I wanted to firstly thank you for the link, it was the one I downloaded the continuous version from.

 

How ever, when I tried to open a PDF file in that specific version as well, the same that happened previously happened, I wasn’t able to read anything.

 

I’m just letting you all guys know so you can see if you have that problem or not.

 

If you find some kind of workaround do write it on the list for those of us who have the problem.

Thanks again for everything.

Best regards.

Francisco.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Tuesday, November 9, 2021 4:02 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Failing to read document with Adobe Acrobat DC and NVDA

 

I don't have the exact URL I downloaded from, I likely updated from a previous version.  But just looking on Adobe's site I found: https://get.adobe.com/uk/reader/otherversions/

 

Which lets you select the OS, language and version (64-bit or 32-bit).  I found our issue on it: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/12920 but I don't have a concrete solution, except that it seems to work for some users and not for others.

 

On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 10:39 PM cisco <audiogamer2004@...> wrote:

Hello there Quentin and all,

 

May I ask a link to download the version of Acrobat you’re using right now? I not only want to download it, I also want to confront the link with the one I used.

Thanks in advance and best regards.

Francisco.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, November 8, 2021 12:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Failing to read document with Adobe Acrobat DC and NVDA

 

I'm not sure what the specific issue here is, but in response to the comment about Adobe Reader DC 64 not being accessible, I am using:

 

Adobe Acrobat Reader DC Continuous Release Version 2021.007.20099 64-bit

 

And I can read accessible PDF files with NVDA 2021.3 beta 2  (I didn't try 2021.2 just now, but I was using it until we released the first beta and I didn't notice an issue).

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.


 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 


 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 


goldwave became very slugish with nvda

Ikrami
 

Hi, I was using goldwave normally  with NVDA and its addon, and it has been working great until recently  when it started to become very slow when I move through audio with the arrow keys. It can take a second or 2 to jump, regardless of the zoom amount, which  makes working with it a real pain. I am not sure if I accidentally changed something that triggered this behavior.

Any help will be appreciated.

 


Re: Failing to read document with Adobe Acrobat DC and NVDA

enes sarıbaş
 

Hi,

I am using the English version.

On 11/9/2021 6:03 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
There is one comment on that issue Enes shared indicating that it works in English, but does not work in other languages, or at least Turkish.  For those experiencing Adobe Reader NOT working, what language are you using?  (I am using English, which might fit with that hypothesis as althoguh it throws a bunch of errors in the log, it does open and read the file).

Quentin.

On Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 7:34 AM cisco <audiogamer2004@...> wrote:

Hello Quentin and all,

 

I wanted to firstly thank you for the link, it was the one I downloaded the continuous version from.

 

How ever, when I tried to open a PDF file in that specific version as well, the same that happened previously happened, I wasn’t able to read anything.

 

I’m just letting you all guys know so you can see if you have that problem or not.

 

If you find some kind of workaround do write it on the list for those of us who have the problem.

Thanks again for everything.

Best regards.

Francisco.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Tuesday, November 9, 2021 4:02 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Failing to read document with Adobe Acrobat DC and NVDA

 

I don't have the exact URL I downloaded from, I likely updated from a previous version.  But just looking on Adobe's site I found: https://get.adobe.com/uk/reader/otherversions/

 

Which lets you select the OS, language and version (64-bit or 32-bit).  I found our issue on it: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/12920 but I don't have a concrete solution, except that it seems to work for some users and not for others.

 

On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 10:39 PM cisco <audiogamer2004@...> wrote:

Hello there Quentin and all,

 

May I ask a link to download the version of Acrobat you’re using right now? I not only want to download it, I also want to confront the link with the one I used.

Thanks in advance and best regards.

Francisco.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, November 8, 2021 12:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Failing to read document with Adobe Acrobat DC and NVDA

 

I'm not sure what the specific issue here is, but in response to the comment about Adobe Reader DC 64 not being accessible, I am using:

 

Adobe Acrobat Reader DC Continuous Release Version 2021.007.20099 64-bit

 

And I can read accessible PDF files with NVDA 2021.3 beta 2  (I didn't try 2021.2 just now, but I was using it until we released the first beta and I didn't notice an issue).

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.


 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


locked Japanese TTS engine

juergenkohler23@...
 

Hello,
 
is there a free Japanese TTS engine for NVDA (e.g. a SAPI4 or SAPI5 voice)? I would be very happy to receive answers!
 
Many thanks and best regards


Re: Unable to focus on zoom

Ali Colak
 

Thanks

On 11/10/21, Yeti <jbslists@...> wrote:
Hello Ali and All,

Im running the 2021.3B2 currently under W10-64 and have not installed any
addon regarding Zoom, as far I know.
Addendum:
I used the Zoom Version 5.8.0 (1324) before.
Now I updated to the current 5.8.3 (1581), but still working.

Ad Astra

Yeti







Re: Unable to focus on zoom

Yeti
 

Hello Ali and All,

Im running the 2021.3B2 currently under W10-64 and have not installed any addon regarding Zoom, as far I know.
Addendum:
I used the Zoom Version 5.8.0 (1324) before.
Now I updated to the current 5.8.3 (1581), but still working.

Ad Astra

Yeti


Re: Unable to focus on zoom

Yeti
 

Hello Ali and All,

Since last Friday, I have been having problems with zoom,
I worked with zoom yesterday and just tried it again yet.
I can not find anything strange "


Im running the 2021.3B2 currently under W10-64 and have not installed any addon regarding Zoom, as far I know.

Sorry for can't helping

Ad astra

Yeti


Unable to focus on zoom

Ali Colak
 

Hello,
Since last Friday, I have been having problems with zoom, where NVDA
is unable to focus on the zoom window. whether I open the aplication
itself or open a zoom meeting from a link. I thought it might be a
problem with the Beta version of NVDA, so I downgraded, but no luck.
The next option I can think of is reinstalling zoom, but before I do
that, anyone have any ideas?

Thanks


Re: NVDA Cursor Help Please

Sarah k Alawami
 

Actually I have very long ish fingers so I don’t’ have to shift my hands all that much.k I’ve used the desktop layouts before and I can’t really grasp said layouts, I never was able to, not in my almost 30 years of computer usage.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, November 9, 2021 8:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Cursor Help Please

 

I think you are saying what you are because you are used to the laptop layout.  Muscle memory allows those used to the desktop layout to move to the numpad and press the key they wish quickly.  Perhaps that is a fractional loss of speed but I wouldn't assume that.  After all. using the laptop layout you have to move to the shift key or use control shift, moving one of your hands away from the home key for a lot of commands. And the desktop layout appears, from the little I've compared, to be more logically laid out and thus easier to learn. 

 

It is important to guard against conflating what you are used to to having advantages it may not.

 

Gene

On 11/9/2021 8:36 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Actually I use laptop mode n the desktop layouts, always. I don’t like the  desktop layouts, they can for me go die. I can reach keys a lot easier than on desktop mode. And I don’t have to move my hands a lot.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke Robinett
Sent: Tuesday, November 9, 2021 3:55 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Cursor Help Please

 

Here’s what Brian‘s response would have looked like without the user shaming he likes to add. I think this line alone would have sufficiently answered OP‘s question:

 

If you have a keyboard with a full number pad, whether it's native to a laptop or attached to a laptop or a desktop, you can use desktop layout if you wish, because the keyboard itself is a classic desktop keyboard layout.  The laptop keyboard layout and commands exists for those laptops that do not have a built-in number pad on their native keyboard and that's the actual keyboard being used.

 

 

On Nov 9, 2021, at 7:51 AM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 10:32 AM, David Russell wrote:

According to the Disability Answer Desk, Microsoft, All-in-one computers are considered laptops.
Thus is the keyboard setup like a laptop then?

-
David, what follows is not aimed at you and you alone, but needs to be said:   KEYBOARD LAYOUT IS ABOUT THE KEYBOARD LAYOUT, PERIOD.  What it is attached to is irrelevant.  You can, and in your case you have, attach a desktop layout keyboard to a desktop, all-in-one, or laptop.  What it's attached to is not what matters, what type of keyboard it is is what does.

If you have a keyboard with a full number pad, whether it's native to a laptop or attached to a laptop or a desktop, you can use desktop layout if you wish, because the keyboard itself is a classic desktop keyboard layout.  The laptop keyboard layout and commands exists for those laptops that do not have a built-in number pad on their native keyboard and that's the actual keyboard being used.  These days there are relatively few laptops that come with a "classic laptop" keyboard layout.  I haven't touched a 15 inch or larger laptop without a number pad on it for years now.

You really should be using desktop keyboard layout because you have an actual desktop keyboard layout.

The NVDA Commands Quick Reference can be brought up by any NVDA user via NVDA + N, H, Q.  It will open in your default web browser, and I cannot tell you the number of times I've opened this document when I have forgotten (or never yet learned) the keystokes for a given command.

NVDA calls the mode for listening to what various key press combinations do Input Help Mode.  It can be toggled on/off, regardless of keyboard layout, with NVDA + 1.

If your keyboard has a delete key, and it almost certainly does, using it for its native function makes sense, just as using the applications/menu key does if your keyboard has one rather than SHIFT + F10.

But, were I you, I'd set NVDA to be using desktop keyboard layout as you obviously have purchased a desktop style keyboard.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.

         ~ John F. Kennedy

 


Re: NVDA Cursor Help Please

Gene
 

I think you are saying what you are because you are used to the laptop layout.  Muscle memory allows those used to the desktop layout to move to the numpad and press the key they wish quickly.  Perhaps that is a fractional loss of speed but I wouldn't assume that.  After all. using the laptop layout you have to move to the shift key or use control shift, moving one of your hands away from the home key for a lot of commands. And the desktop layout appears, from the little I've compared, to be more logically laid out and thus easier to learn. 


It is important to guard against conflating what you are used to to having advantages it may not.


Gene

On 11/9/2021 8:36 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Actually I use laptop mode n the desktop layouts, always. I don’t like the  desktop layouts, they can for me go die. I can reach keys a lot easier than on desktop mode. And I don’t have to move my hands a lot.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke Robinett
Sent: Tuesday, November 9, 2021 3:55 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Cursor Help Please

 

Here’s what Brian‘s response would have looked like without the user shaming he likes to add. I think this line alone would have sufficiently answered OP‘s question:

 

If you have a keyboard with a full number pad, whether it's native to a laptop or attached to a laptop or a desktop, you can use desktop layout if you wish, because the keyboard itself is a classic desktop keyboard layout.  The laptop keyboard layout and commands exists for those laptops that do not have a built-in number pad on their native keyboard and that's the actual keyboard being used.

 

 

On Nov 9, 2021, at 7:51 AM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 10:32 AM, David Russell wrote:

According to the Disability Answer Desk, Microsoft, All-in-one computers are considered laptops.
Thus is the keyboard setup like a laptop then?

-
David, what follows is not aimed at you and you alone, but needs to be said:   KEYBOARD LAYOUT IS ABOUT THE KEYBOARD LAYOUT, PERIOD.  What it is attached to is irrelevant.  You can, and in your case you have, attach a desktop layout keyboard to a desktop, all-in-one, or laptop.  What it's attached to is not what matters, what type of keyboard it is is what does.

If you have a keyboard with a full number pad, whether it's native to a laptop or attached to a laptop or a desktop, you can use desktop layout if you wish, because the keyboard itself is a classic desktop keyboard layout.  The laptop keyboard layout and commands exists for those laptops that do not have a built-in number pad on their native keyboard and that's the actual keyboard being used.  These days there are relatively few laptops that come with a "classic laptop" keyboard layout.  I haven't touched a 15 inch or larger laptop without a number pad on it for years now.

You really should be using desktop keyboard layout because you have an actual desktop keyboard layout.

The NVDA Commands Quick Reference can be brought up by any NVDA user via NVDA + N, H, Q.  It will open in your default web browser, and I cannot tell you the number of times I've opened this document when I have forgotten (or never yet learned) the keystokes for a given command.

NVDA calls the mode for listening to what various key press combinations do Input Help Mode.  It can be toggled on/off, regardless of keyboard layout, with NVDA + 1.

If your keyboard has a delete key, and it almost certainly does, using it for its native function makes sense, just as using the applications/menu key does if your keyboard has one rather than SHIFT + F10.

But, were I you, I'd set NVDA to be using desktop keyboard layout as you obviously have purchased a desktop style keyboard.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.

         ~ John F. Kennedy

 


Re: NVDA Cursor Help Please

Sarah k Alawami
 

Actually I use laptop mode n the desktop layouts, always. I don’t like the  desktop layouts, they can for me go die. I can reach keys a lot easier than on desktop mode. And I don’t have to move my hands a lot.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke Robinett
Sent: Tuesday, November 9, 2021 3:55 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Cursor Help Please

 

Here’s what Brian‘s response would have looked like without the user shaming he likes to add. I think this line alone would have sufficiently answered OP‘s question:

 

If you have a keyboard with a full number pad, whether it's native to a laptop or attached to a laptop or a desktop, you can use desktop layout if you wish, because the keyboard itself is a classic desktop keyboard layout.  The laptop keyboard layout and commands exists for those laptops that do not have a built-in number pad on their native keyboard and that's the actual keyboard being used.

 

 

On Nov 9, 2021, at 7:51 AM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 10:32 AM, David Russell wrote:

According to the Disability Answer Desk, Microsoft, All-in-one computers are considered laptops.
Thus is the keyboard setup like a laptop then?

-
David, what follows is not aimed at you and you alone, but needs to be said:   KEYBOARD LAYOUT IS ABOUT THE KEYBOARD LAYOUT, PERIOD.  What it is attached to is irrelevant.  You can, and in your case you have, attach a desktop layout keyboard to a desktop, all-in-one, or laptop.  What it's attached to is not what matters, what type of keyboard it is is what does.

If you have a keyboard with a full number pad, whether it's native to a laptop or attached to a laptop or a desktop, you can use desktop layout if you wish, because the keyboard itself is a classic desktop keyboard layout.  The laptop keyboard layout and commands exists for those laptops that do not have a built-in number pad on their native keyboard and that's the actual keyboard being used.  These days there are relatively few laptops that come with a "classic laptop" keyboard layout.  I haven't touched a 15 inch or larger laptop without a number pad on it for years now.

You really should be using desktop keyboard layout because you have an actual desktop keyboard layout.

The NVDA Commands Quick Reference can be brought up by any NVDA user via NVDA + N, H, Q.  It will open in your default web browser, and I cannot tell you the number of times I've opened this document when I have forgotten (or never yet learned) the keystokes for a given command.

NVDA calls the mode for listening to what various key press combinations do Input Help Mode.  It can be toggled on/off, regardless of keyboard layout, with NVDA + 1.

If your keyboard has a delete key, and it almost certainly does, using it for its native function makes sense, just as using the applications/menu key does if your keyboard has one rather than SHIFT + F10.

But, were I you, I'd set NVDA to be using desktop keyboard layout as you obviously have purchased a desktop style keyboard.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.

         ~ John F. Kennedy

 


Re: NVDA Cursor Help Please

 

On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 06:54 PM, Luke Robinett wrote:
Here’s what Brian‘s response would have looked like without the user shaming he likes to add.
-
In your opinion.

There has been an ongoing, and consistent, confusion about what keyboard layout really refers to, that has not seemed to go away over time.

I'm not sorry if you find necessary emphasis to be "user shaming."  It's not, and never has been.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.

         ~ John F. Kennedy

 


Re: NVDA not reading number of unread messages

Quentin Christensen
 

I haven't used Yahoo for a few years, but I just tried in both Chrome and Firefox and when I sent myself a test message, and looked at my inbox, in both browsers, it read "Inbox, 1 email, 1 unread".

Maybe you need to clear your browser cache?  I more often use Gmail and I know when it starts playing up, often clearing the browser cache fixes it.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 10:06 AM mcLeod stinnett <macks75205@...> wrote:
version 21.2 i read my yahoo mail on the web, in the basic view. when i go to the inbox for the first time in a day,  NVDA might say 5 unread. for the last few days it says nothing about that, no big deal. question is, to get it to report that do i need to check a certain setting?
--
from mack 







--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: Failing to read document with Adobe Acrobat DC and NVDA

Quentin Christensen
 

There is one comment on that issue Enes shared indicating that it works in English, but does not work in other languages, or at least Turkish.  For those experiencing Adobe Reader NOT working, what language are you using?  (I am using English, which might fit with that hypothesis as althoguh it throws a bunch of errors in the log, it does open and read the file).

Quentin.

On Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 7:34 AM cisco <audiogamer2004@...> wrote:

Hello Quentin and all,

 

I wanted to firstly thank you for the link, it was the one I downloaded the continuous version from.

 

How ever, when I tried to open a PDF file in that specific version as well, the same that happened previously happened, I wasn’t able to read anything.

 

I’m just letting you all guys know so you can see if you have that problem or not.

 

If you find some kind of workaround do write it on the list for those of us who have the problem.

Thanks again for everything.

Best regards.

Francisco.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Tuesday, November 9, 2021 4:02 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Failing to read document with Adobe Acrobat DC and NVDA

 

I don't have the exact URL I downloaded from, I likely updated from a previous version.  But just looking on Adobe's site I found: https://get.adobe.com/uk/reader/otherversions/

 

Which lets you select the OS, language and version (64-bit or 32-bit).  I found our issue on it: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/12920 but I don't have a concrete solution, except that it seems to work for some users and not for others.

 

On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 10:39 PM cisco <audiogamer2004@...> wrote:

Hello there Quentin and all,

 

May I ask a link to download the version of Acrobat you’re using right now? I not only want to download it, I also want to confront the link with the one I used.

Thanks in advance and best regards.

Francisco.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, November 8, 2021 12:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Failing to read document with Adobe Acrobat DC and NVDA

 

I'm not sure what the specific issue here is, but in response to the comment about Adobe Reader DC 64 not being accessible, I am using:

 

Adobe Acrobat Reader DC Continuous Release Version 2021.007.20099 64-bit

 

And I can read accessible PDF files with NVDA 2021.3 beta 2  (I didn't try 2021.2 just now, but I was using it until we released the first beta and I didn't notice an issue).

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.


 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: NVDA Cursor Help Please

Luke Robinett
 

Here’s what Brian‘s response would have looked like without the user shaming he likes to add. I think this line alone would have sufficiently answered OP‘s question:

If you have a keyboard with a full number pad, whether it's native to a laptop or attached to a laptop or a desktop, you can use desktop layout if you wish, because the keyboard itself is a classic desktop keyboard layout.  The laptop keyboard layout and commands exists for those laptops that do not have a built-in number pad on their native keyboard and that's the actual keyboard being used.


On Nov 9, 2021, at 7:51 AM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 10:32 AM, David Russell wrote:
According to the Disability Answer Desk, Microsoft, All-in-one computers are considered laptops.
Thus is the keyboard setup like a laptop then?
-
David, what follows is not aimed at you and you alone, but needs to be said:   KEYBOARD LAYOUT IS ABOUT THE KEYBOARD LAYOUT, PERIOD.  What it is attached to is irrelevant.  You can, and in your case you have, attach a desktop layout keyboard to a desktop, all-in-one, or laptop.  What it's attached to is not what matters, what type of keyboard it is is what does.

If you have a keyboard with a full number pad, whether it's native to a laptop or attached to a laptop or a desktop, you can use desktop layout if you wish, because the keyboard itself is a classic desktop keyboard layout.  The laptop keyboard layout and commands exists for those laptops that do not have a built-in number pad on their native keyboard and that's the actual keyboard being used.  These days there are relatively few laptops that come with a "classic laptop" keyboard layout.  I haven't touched a 15 inch or larger laptop without a number pad on it for years now.

You really should be using desktop keyboard layout because you have an actual desktop keyboard layout.

The NVDA Commands Quick Reference can be brought up by any NVDA user via NVDA + N, H, Q.  It will open in your default web browser, and I cannot tell you the number of times I've opened this document when I have forgotten (or never yet learned) the keystokes for a given command.

NVDA calls the mode for listening to what various key press combinations do Input Help Mode.  It can be toggled on/off, regardless of keyboard layout, with NVDA + 1.

If your keyboard has a delete key, and it almost certainly does, using it for its native function makes sense, just as using the applications/menu key does if your keyboard has one rather than SHIFT + F10.

But, were I you, I'd set NVDA to be using desktop keyboard layout as you obviously have purchased a desktop style keyboard.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all.

         ~ John F. Kennedy

 


NVDA not reading number of unread messages

mcLeod stinnett
 

version 21.2 i read my yahoo mail on the web, in the basic view. when i go to the inbox for the first time in a day, NVDA might say 5 unread. for the last few days it says nothing about that, no big deal. question is, to get it to report that do i need to check a certain setting?
--
from mack


Re: Failing to read document with Adobe Acrobat DC and NVDA

cisco
 

Hello Quentin and all,

 

I wanted to firstly thank you for the link, it was the one I downloaded the continuous version from.

 

How ever, when I tried to open a PDF file in that specific version as well, the same that happened previously happened, I wasn’t able to read anything.

 

I’m just letting you all guys know so you can see if you have that problem or not.

 

If you find some kind of workaround do write it on the list for those of us who have the problem.

Thanks again for everything.

Best regards.

Francisco.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Tuesday, November 9, 2021 4:02 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Failing to read document with Adobe Acrobat DC and NVDA

 

I don't have the exact URL I downloaded from, I likely updated from a previous version.  But just looking on Adobe's site I found: https://get.adobe.com/uk/reader/otherversions/

 

Which lets you select the OS, language and version (64-bit or 32-bit).  I found our issue on it: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/12920 but I don't have a concrete solution, except that it seems to work for some users and not for others.

 

On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 10:39 PM cisco <audiogamer2004@...> wrote:

Hello there Quentin and all,

 

May I ask a link to download the version of Acrobat you’re using right now? I not only want to download it, I also want to confront the link with the one I used.

Thanks in advance and best regards.

Francisco.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, November 8, 2021 12:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Failing to read document with Adobe Acrobat DC and NVDA

 

I'm not sure what the specific issue here is, but in response to the comment about Adobe Reader DC 64 not being accessible, I am using:

 

Adobe Acrobat Reader DC Continuous Release Version 2021.007.20099 64-bit

 

And I can read accessible PDF files with NVDA 2021.3 beta 2  (I didn't try 2021.2 just now, but I was using it until we released the first beta and I didn't notice an issue).

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.


 

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Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 


Re: NVDA Cursor Help Please

Jujube
 

To enter input help mode, press NVDA+1


On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 7:32 AM David Russell <david.sonofhashem@...> wrote:
Hi NVDA,

A few months ago, I replaced my Acer all-in-one computer keyboard with
another purchased at an office supply store. The Acer keyboard was too
sensitive for my use.
According to the Disability Answer Desk, Microsoft, All-in-one
computers are considered laptops.
Thus is the keyboard setup like a laptop then?
How can I put the computer in what JAWS used to call "review mode" and
experiment to find out what keys are for insert, delete, page-up,
page-down etc?
The command control+backspace, for example does not work as a delete key for me.
To change punctuation settings, I use the capslock key with the letter p.

Thanks for the help in advance.

I never knew keyboard variation existed until replacing such.  Thanks!

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David C. Russell, Author
david.sonofhashem@...





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